We Need Malthouse

[bushranger]

Not that he has even thrown his hat in ring, my vote would be for James Hird.
He was and is the best captain I have seen (others will disagree with that I know).
He could easily get the respect of the players in a week or two as he is a doer and not a sit behind the play type.
So it is James Hird for me if he placed his hat in for the job.

[Infamy]

hardwick is a better long term option

Hardwick will not come to us. We have a perceived instability and no gonads when making hard calls.

Look at his record as a player at Essendon and Port. One flag at each
His record as an assistant is not too shabby either with a flag at Hawthorn.

Why? Stable boards and clubs who made the right and hard calls initially when the quest for a premiership was sought. Wht would we offer and why would he want to tarnish that record?

It depends how bad he wants a senior job next year though, there doesn't look like being many around now. Perhaps only Laidley's job is at risk so he'd have a choice of going to a club with 45k members and financial support or a club that gets 15k to a home game and may go under any day now. Port Adelaide is probably the main option for Hardwick at this stage.

[Francois Jackson]

Not that he has even thrown his hat in ring, my vote would be for James Hird.
He was and is the best captain I have seen (others will disagree with that I know).
He could easily get the respect of the players in a week or two as he is a doer and not a sit behind the play type.
So it is James Hird for me if he placed his hat in for the job.

if he was to apply he would be top of the list. Doubt it is high on his wishlist though

BEST CAPTAIN TO PLAY THE GAME IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.

[Ramps]

Irrespective of who coaches, if you dont have any socks you cant pull them up. Richmond needs a massive recruiting campaign come years end. It should be a campaign that sees us

1) Tank to get 3 picks inside 20
2) keep all our picks under pick 50 and take younsters from the draft
3) Look at every other list in the comp and see if you can do some player for player trades targetting blokes like Nathan Djekurra, Tim Houlihan, Travis Tuck and anyone else who knows how to kick the footy properly
4) Any non core players should be traded or delisted.
5) Trade atleast 1 name player - Foley should get us something decent.
6) Try and lure a key forward in the PSD. Hawkins remains unsigned as far as I know at Geelong, also they seem to be a bit upset with him at the moment, he hasnt come on as hoped, Lachlan Hansen at North is also availabe from what I believe.
7) Retire all over 30s except for Cousins.
Trade blokes like McMahon even if it means you have to pay his salary for 1 year.

[1980]

the style of communication is different, the way they come across is different, matthews seems more direct and i favor a new coach who will be more direct with the players.

i know an ex player at the lions, he is now an assistant coach there and was part of their powerhouse era. can tell you now, the reason matthews was shafted by j.brown and the group was bec of his lack of communication and rapport with the players.

funny thing is, the playing group at brisbane last yr got rid of matthews and did it quietly. the same thing, led by their captain. however at rfc, it was leaked and huge news


go figure

You are such a jackstar wannabe. You're even plagiarising his words.

Hilarious

[WilliamPowell]

A young coach in the rfc environment would just get crucified, by the media and by the players.

You forgot to include the supporters 

Nathan Buckley (who I don't think will come to Richmond but is my stand out choice)
Mark Williams (who I can't stand personally but think he ticks all the boxes of our requirements)
Ken Hinkley
Damien Hardwick

I don't think Buckley would have the COURAGE to take on Richmond - to much to lose and I doubt he could see the gains 

If we go down the path of an younger coach I wonder if we will end up with the Thompson (Bomber) -v- Frawley thing where a Thompson knocked us back because of who and what the RFC is 

[wayne]

We don't need a gameplan that follows the boundary line.

Wasn't Rocket Eade the man that invented flooding and ugly defensive tactics when he was with the Swans.

With the Doggies he's made them one of the most exciting and highest scoring teams in the league.

Who says Malthouse would use the same gameplan he has at Collingwood if he came to Richmond.

[Infamy]

The thing is, Malthouse was successful as a young coach at West Coast

He's now at the highest resourced club in the entire AFL, best recruiters and recruiting network, more assistant and development coaches than you can shake a stick at, a state of the art training centre and soon to have Olympic Park knocked down so they don't have to walk 200m to Goschs Paddock and he still can't get them being successful.

[Stripes]

Not that he has even thrown his hat in ring, my vote would be for James Hird.
He was and is the best captain I have seen (others will disagree with that I know).
He could easily get the respect of the players in a week or two as he is a doer and not a sit behind the play type.
So it is James Hird for me if he placed his hat in for the job.

I agree here as well. Has an astute football brain, level headed and fierce.

I think the pickings will be slim in terms of coaches who would dare to take the Tigers job. This media circus has done us no favours. I think if we can secure Hardwick we would have done very well because, as WP rightly pointed out, Buckley has neither the courage or passion to take on the Richmond coaches position.

Stripes

[mat073]

The thing is, Malthouse was successful as a young coach at West Coast

He's now at the highest resourced club in the entire AFL, best recruiters and recruiting network, more assistant and development coaches than you can shake a stick at, a state of the art training centre and soon to have Olympic Park knocked down so they don't have to walk 200m to Goschs Paddock and he still can't get them being successful.

What is the criteria for being successful coach ?

Can it only be messured by Premierships or by sustained competiveness....

Since our last decent year in 2001-Collingwood have had many 02,03,06,07 and 08....No failed rebuilds there just a history of getting the best out of "average lists"

Winning Premierships is bloody hard....just ask Geelong last year where you can have almost the perfect season and not win the ultimate prize.

Right now I look at Collingwoods Malthouse years and Im green with envy.

[Francois Jackson]

The thing is, Malthouse was successful as a young coach at West Coast

He's now at the highest resourced club in the entire AFL, best recruiters and recruiting network, more assistant and development coaches than you can shake a stick at, a state of the art training centre and soon to have Olympic Park knocked down so they don't have to walk 200m to Goschs Paddock and he still can't get them being successful.

What is the criteria for being successful coach ?

Can it only be messured by Premierships or by sustained competiveness....

Since our last decent year in 2001-Collingwood have had many 02,03,06,07 and 08....No failed rebuilds there just a history of getting the best out of "average lists"

Winning Premierships is bloody hard....just ask Geelong last year where you can have almost the perfect season and not win the ultimate prize.

Right now I look at Collingwoods Malthouse years and Im green with envy.

well said

[Chuck17]

One good thing about Malthouse, he would be use to the supporters baying for blood and all the vitroul associated. 

[TigerLand]

One good thing about Malthouse, he would be use to the supporters baying for blood and all the vitroul associated. 

A quality I think is pretty high on the list for our next coach.

Someone like a Hinkley, McRae, Longmuire may just not be able to deal with the pressures..


As days go on I'm really leaning towards Mick as our next coach leaning very heavily.

[camboon]

Malthouse will stay at Collingwood unless Eddie wants Buckley to have the job no matter what. Pity as we need a coach to take no nonsense, wont suffer excuses and gets the best out his team. A coach that couldn't give a rats toss bag about the media or the feral fans.
If we missed out on Malthouse any interest in Sheedy to develop a young list.

Whoever they pick I just hope they put some thought into it and don't pick a coach who wont build a long term position for the club.

PS: Congratulations Melbourne, building a great list with the best young kids in the land without any grief from their supporters or the media. Their supporters must understand that short term pain for long term gain is the only way, oh well to late for us - Just hope we don't ever give up national draft picks again.

[Ramps]

Just a question for camboon- if you could a late pick say a pick in the mid to late 50s for say Nathan Djekurra at Geelong- would you do the deal?

If you could swap a pick in the 60s for Tim Houlihan at West Coast- would you do the deal?

Trading isnt bad, and it should never be ruled out, but it should onlyhappen with picks after pick 50 and it should be for players who can add to the list.