Free Agency coming end of 2012 [merged]

[WilliamPowell]

Being a Major League Baseball fan and seeing what it has done in that sport I am disappointed. Sad day for footy IMV

I am Yankees fan and they exploit free agency like no other team but that doesn't mean I like it.

As a result of FA in the MLB smaller teams like Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Tampa Bay and Washington to name a few lose players for nothing after nuturing them through their "farm systems" into the Majors over 10 odd year period. Granted there isn't any salary cap in the MLB but free agency hasn't been a good thing for Baseball although the players will tell you it has...

I just hope the AFL & AFLPA get this right because they run the risk of alienating fans

[Smokey]

It will ensure that at least 1 club will fold within 10 years.  Worst day for football in a long long time.  The follow on will be the players choosing their new club midway through the season as per the NRL.  Sad day for football.

[one-eyed]

Well it's officially here....

Eligibility for free agency



Under the agreement:

•       Players delisted by a club on or before 31 October will be unrestricted free agents.

•       Players who are not in the top 25 per cent of salaries at their clubs will be eligible for unrestricted free agency if they have served eight years on the primary list of the club.

•       Players who are in the top 25 per cent of salaries at their club will be eligible for restricted free agency for their first new contract after they have served eight years on the primary list of the club. This is the case regardless of when the first new contract arises. For example, a player who is contracted after his seventh year for two, three, four or years will still only be eligible for restricted free agency for his next contracts as a nine, 10, or 11 year player.

•       A top 25 per cent player will then be eligible for unrestricted free agency for his next contract, provided that a player can’t be an unrestricted free agent until completing at least 10 years service at one clubs.

•       Restricted free agents have the right to move to a club of their choice subject to the current club’s right of first refusal over their services. That is, if the current club can match the offer from a rival club, the player must stay or enter the draft. The tabled offer only includes capped salary and capped ASA amounts.

•       Compensation in the form of AFL allocated draft picks will apply to clubs with a net loss of free agents. This will be based on a formula to be determined by the AFL.

•       The Veterans List allowance will be amended to apply to players with 10 years service at one club and will be based on a set amount of TPP per player calculated as a percentage of TPP.

•       The AFL will closely monitor access to uncapped third party independent arrangements.

•       All player investments with associates must be lodged with the AFL.

The new system will commence at the end of 2012 after the entry of Team GWS into the competition, and will remain in place until reviewed at the end of 2016.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/89810/default.aspx

[one-eyed]

HOW THE NEW FREE AGENCY SYSTEM WILL WORK

1.      A player has served seven seasons or less of AFL football at one club, and is now out of contract.

The player is not eligible for free agency if his club wishes to retain him. He may only move clubs via a trade or the Draft. If he delists himself, he is subject to the Draft, and may be selected by any club.
 
2.      A player has served seven seasons or less of AFL football at one club, and has been delisted by his club.

The player is a Free Agent and is eligible to field offers from all rival AFL clubs.

The player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

The player can move AUTOMATICALLY to the new club of his choice.

His original club, which chose to delist him, does not receive any compensation pick for the loss of the player.
 
3.      A player has served eight or more seasons of AFL football at one club, is one of the 10 highest-paid players at his club, and is now out of contract for the first time since reaching eight seasons of service.

The player is eligible to field offers from all rival AFL clubs.

If he wishes to change clubs, the player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

His club has the right to match the presented offer.

If the club matches the offer, he may choose to remain with his original club, seek a trade or enter the Draft.

If the club does not or can not match the offer, the player can move to the new club of his choice.

His original club will receive a compensation pick for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula to apply where clubs lose more free agents than they gain in any single transfer period.
 
4.      A player has served eight or more seasons of AFL football at one club, is NOT one of the 10 highest-paid players at his club, and is now out of contract for the first time since reaching eight seasons of service.

The player is eligible to field offers from all rival AFL clubs.

If he wishes to change clubs, the player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

His club does NOT have the right to match the presented offer, and the player can move AUTOMATICALLY to the new club of his choice.

His original club will receive a compensation pick for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula.
 
5.      A player has served ten or more seasons of AFL football at one club, has already come out of contract once in the period after serving his first eight or more seasons at his club, and is now out of contract.

The player is eligible to field offers from all rival clubs.

If he wishes to change clubs, the player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

His club does NOT have the right to match the presented offer, and the player can move AUTOMATICALLY to the new club of his choice.

His original club will receive a compensation pick for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/89809/default.aspx

[Infamy]

Given the veterans list rules have been amended to 10 years at a club with no age restriction, I don't think its that much of an issue.

[Tiggytam]

Time will tell.

[mightytiges]

Tigers who would meet the criteria in 2012 (ie. everyone from the 2004 draft and the drafts preceeding it)

Newman
Moore
Foley
Jackson
Tuck
Deledio
Tambling
Polo
McGuane
Thursfield
Simmonds (most likely retired by 2012)

It may sound harsh but apart from Lids there's not too many listed there that would be a big loss. Add the fact our 2005 draft was a disaster we're actually not too bad off for the first two years of free agency in regards to the threat of losing players thanks to our own past inept recruiting  .

Hopefully we are showing signs of being a side on the up by the end of 2012 and a classy player still in his prime from a club whose premiership window has shut may see us as an attractive club to move to.

The only real neg I have is I would still like to know how the AFL plans to prevent wealthier clubs from offering more dodgy "VISY" deals to bypass the salary cap and use free agency to poach poorer club's better players.

[torch]

Tigers who would meet the criteria in 2012 (ie. everyone from the 2004 draft and the drafts preceeding it)

Newman
Moore
Foley
Jackson
Tuck
Deledio
Tambling
Polo
McGuane
Thursfield
Simmonds (most likely retired by 2012)

i can see Deledio walking out!

 

[Mr Magic]

i can see Deledio walking out!

Rubbish.

[torch]

i can see Deledio walking out!

Rubbish.

we shall see in 2012!

 

[one-eyed]

The Age has a list of current players who will be eligible for free agency in 2012.....

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/free-agency-for-quarter-of-lists-20100223-p0q3.html

[Penelope]

Tigers who would meet the criteria in 2012 (ie. everyone from the 2004 draft and the drafts preceeding it)

Newman
Moore
Foley
Jackson
Tuck
Deledio
Tambling
Polo
McGuane
Thursfield
Simmonds (most likely retired by 2012)

It may sound harsh but apart from Lids there's not too many listed there that would be a big loss. Add the fact our 2005 draft was a disaster we're actually not too bad off for the first two years of free agency in regards to the threat of losing players thanks to our own past inept recruiting  .

Hopefully we are showing signs of being a side on the up by the end of 2012 and a classy player still in his prime from a club whose premiership window has shut may see us as an attractive club to move to.

The only real neg I have is I would still like to know how the AFL plans to prevent wealthier clubs from offering more dodgy "VISY" deals to bypass the salary cap and use free agency to poach poorer club's better players.

May be the case now MT, but hopefully in two years time some of those players will have got to a stage where they would be a loss. Otherwise we may still be languishing at the butt end of the ladder.

[one-eyed]

What they said: clubs react to free agency
afl.com.au
Wed 24 February, 2010

RICHMOND

Chief executive Brendon Gale said the Tigers looked forward to capitalising on its opportunities within the new framework.

"This is a positive and fair outcome for the industry. The agreement strikes a balance between recognising the right of players to have more control over the direction of their football careers, while also recognising the AFL’s legitimate interest in maintaining high levels of competitive balance. Both the AFL and AFLPA should be commended on this win/win deal.

"Many would be aware that in my previous role as CEO of the AFL Players’ Association, I was a strong advocate for free agency. When I departed the AFLPA to take over as Richmond’s CEO in September 2009, there already was a meeting of minds between the AFL and AFLPA on the broader principles underpinning free agency.  Therefore, it was my understanding that it would only be a matter of months before the arrangements were finally negotiated and settled.

"When my move back to Tigerland took place, my thoughts immediately turned to ensuring the club was well placed to not only deal with the advent of free agency, but to flourish under the system."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/89845/default.aspx

[WilliamPowell]

i can see Deledio walking out!

 

I can't see him walking

Actually I don't see anyone on the list walking out in 2012

Will they all be there - doubtful but I don't think any will walk 

[Ox]

LMAO At Dildio.

Sooki lala=gawn.