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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2010, 07:46:12 PM »
The Age has a list of current players who will be eligible for free agency in 2012.....

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/free-agency-for-quarter-of-lists-20100223-p0q3.html


how many were on that list. i counted at least 109 who were 29 or older. an awful lot will be retired and i cant see to many clubs paying big bickies  for players past their best with limited time left in the game.

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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2010, 10:57:22 PM »
LMAO At Dildio.

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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2010, 12:33:52 AM »
We have never succeeded in the draft systems of the AFL. Our successes came from Free Agency recruiting. And so it will be again. The aim is to target 25 and 26 year olds who still have 5 years maybe 6 left in footy. Pick of 1 or 2 a year and you can do well in the new systems.

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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2010, 05:21:17 AM »
Agree Ramps you target 25-26 year olds. IMO free agency would be more useful in finding a mature ruckmen. Whereas a midfielder could only have a couple of prime years left in him (short-term fix), a mid-20s ruckman would just be entering his peak and barring injury could play for another 5-6 years into his early 30s. Decent ruckmen aren't easy to find as we know as most are raw at 18 when they are drafted. Free agency might be the way to completing the list puzzle for 2013. A 25-26 ruckman would fit in with our list by then and if you look at the top 4 sides now they've all traded for experienced ruckmen - Ottens, Gardiner, King, Hudson and Jolly.
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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2010, 08:04:45 AM »
We have never succeeded in the draft systems of the AFL. Our successes came from Free Agency recruiting. And so it will be again.

A flawed observation Ramps.  Our successes came in the days prior to the salary cap when the club with the biggest purse usually won.  No such luxury this time unless we can find a few benefactors to set up 'Visy' deals.

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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2010, 08:40:13 AM »
Well are positioned under this system to flourish


We pay barely the 92.5% of the salary cap, and we have 1 A grade footballer, Deledio


Benny Gale was responsible ( largely) for vetoing this new system before he left. He knows more about how to expolit the system, while protecting our interests than any other administrator in the AFL. I look forward to the opportunities that will come to us, and with Blair Hartley on board, whose job desciption involves analysisng oppoistion lists, you can all rest assured that we are well placed ATM, and with very little to lose and a heap to gain. ;)

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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2010, 01:38:00 PM »
Well are positioned under this system to flourish


We pay barely the 92.5% of the salary cap, and we have 1 A grade footballer, Deledio


Benny Gale was responsible ( largely) for vetoing this new system before he left. He knows more about how to expolit the system, while protecting our interests than any other administrator in the AFL. I look forward to the opportunities that will come to us, and with Blair Hartley on board, whose job desciption involves analysisng oppoistion lists, you can all rest assured that we are well placed ATM, and with very little to lose and a heap to gain. ;)

Now thats the correct attitude. Ive been hearing to much bull lately that this will be the end of Richmond and how stuffed we are. Our administrators need to start preparing the change and to make it work to our advantage. Im confident that this will give our club some good opportunities.

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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2010, 10:42:18 PM »
Yep the more proactive clubs who move with the new times will benefit the most. We as a club have not lead the way probably since the late 60s. Here's an opportunity if we are smart to gain an advantage. Free agency doesn't come in for another 3 footy seasons so there's no excuse for us not to plan and be prepared to act. Hopefully onfield we will be a more attractive club to come to be then too.
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Re: Free Agency coming end of 2012 ........ 8 years and you're free to go
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2010, 03:52:33 AM »
This applies to all existing clubs in the face of free agency and the two new clubs .....


Cats working on strategy for AFL's new era
The Age, March 5, 2010

GEELONG will overhaul its recruiting strategy to cope with the impending arrival of the two expansion clubs and free agency.

After Gold Coast's AFL debut next year, Western Sydney will join the competition in 2012 and the league will introduce free agency.

''We just have to look at the way we do business, because it's a big change in the rules of the game … free agency and two new teams in three years,'' Thompson said. ''It's just huge, it's going to have consequences on the quality of players you can get, how you contract players and how you do business.

''We're doing a lot of work in planning and coming up with blueprint on how we want to go forward.''

''We've been a club that has traditionally recruited and developed our own players,'' he said.

''But in saying that, if you get some players walking out on you after eight years of service, we might be forced to change the way we do business and look at another way of doing it, and that's by getting some ready-made players from other clubs.

Adelaide coach Neil Craig has said a club's environment will become even more important as it becomes harder to retain players.

But Thompson warns that the forces of change might be stronger than the pull of club loyalty. ''If you can't service your players with what they require out of the game, I would think even the best of people in the best of clubs will probably still get some movement of players …

''Those two new clubs will have a huge amount of incentives, just massive incentives.''

Full article at:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/cats-working-on-strategy-for-afls-new-era-20100304-plre.html

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free agency ?
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2010, 04:40:32 PM »
Free agency .. i have a rough idea on what it is but can you guys help me out?

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Re: free agency ?
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2010, 09:09:12 PM »
IMO- Free Agency is RFCs best chance of getting out of the current malaise and disastrous road that we have embarked on for 3 decades.

IMHO Richmond should start to really cut salaries as as possible and have as much salary cap room available as possible and head into Free Agency with a big chequebook!

How much money would

Ben Cousins
Troy Simmonds
Jordan McMahon
Shane Tuck and
Daniel Jackson
Will Thursfield
Kelvin Moore

would be on - Id suggest those 7 players combined would take up approximately $1.5 to $1.8 million maybe even a touch more-  a year at least! IMO-these players arent the future but they would be on decent packets. The money should be used to try and get 2 or 3 senior quality players when free Agency comes in. In the meantime Hardwick should stick to the youth policy!

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Hunt is on as free agency nears (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2010, 04:40:56 AM »
Hunt is on as free agency nears
Mark Stevens
Herald Sun
May 06, 2010


RICHMOND has employed a "poacher" to scour rival lists for recruiting opportunities.

Well aware that the next two national drafts will be compromised, former Port Adelaide recruiter Blair Hartley has been given the task of hunting mature-age players.

The Tigers, paying close to the minimum 92.5 per cent of the salary cap, have plenty of room to move in future seasons, with free agency arriving in 2012.

Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale yesterday confirmed Hartley's full-time "opposition analyst" role was more focused on rival lists than tactics.

"He (Hartley) is building up his knowledge and intelligence around the composition of lists and all the players with a view to making some informed choices as the labour market becomes a little more flexible," Gale said.

"One of the key advantages of having worked with the AFL Players' Association when I came here was I knew free agency was coming in, apart from being formalised.

"Your recruiting staff basically look at the under-age pathways. Sometimes it's those other pathways that get overlooked.

"So Blair will be looking at existing club lists. He will be dedicated to looking at these opportunities 100 per cent of the time."

Richmond is faced with a massive challenge to rebuild in the next two years, with the new Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney teams taking the bulk of the prized draft picks.

Even the AFL's chief executive Andrew Demetriou has taken to commenting on the tough road ahead.

"They'll have to be aggressive in their recruitment, in their trading," Demetriou told a business lunch yesterday.

Gale is adamant Richmond is still an appealing destination for players, with new "cutting edge" training facilities at Punt Rd due to open in November.

"It's about creating an environment where players don't want to leave, but moreover they want to come," Gale said.

"I'd assert that, despite where we are on the ladder, we're an attractive proposition now. Regardless of what people say, we're a great club.

"We have a great history of success and we play in the greatest stadium and we average 41,000 people.

"We're having a tough time on the field, but we expected that. Already, we're starting to see some really green shoots."

Richmond has 40,771 members (36,000 fully ticketed) and is pleased to be so close to its target of 42,000 despite a horror 0-6 start to the season.

"The greatest thing about our footy club is our members," Gale said.

"You have a new coach trying to coach a new game plan and it doesn't happen overnight. We had 14 new players and 16 capable of debuting this year.

"I think any informed Richmond supporter wouldn't have expected us to be belting the lights out of the opposition.

"They've endorsed the action we're taking."

Gale defended the club's decision to have an extensive clean-out at the end of last season.

"We lost nearly 1400 games of experience in (Matthew) Richardson, (Joel) Bowden, (Kane) Johnson, (Mark) Coughlan and (Nathan) Brown," Gale said.

"The first question we needed to ask was, 'Were those players going to be part of the next premiership?' and the answer was probably not.

"We had to go to the last uncompromised draft and get as many picks as we could, and we did that.

"Dustin Martin and David Astbury have really impressed.

"Ben Nason was last pick in national draft ... that's the way you make up ground. Nason's been really impressive - good balance; great user of the footy."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hunt-is-on-as-free-agency-nears/story-e6frf9ix-1225862763723

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Big free agency bucks won't tempt Tigers (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2011, 02:01:52 AM »
Big free agency bucks won't tempt Tigers
Jon Ralph
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February 03, 2011


RICHMOND star Brett Deledio says the club's young stars are determined to build a dynasty at Punt Rd and ignore the lure of free agency and cashed-up rivals.

Deledio will be in the first batch of players who could take advantage of free agency, but said yesterday he was determined to finish his career at Richmond.

He comes out of contract next year when Greater Western Sydney still has access to out-of-contract players.

But he will join young stars Jack Riewoldt and Dustin Martin in rejecting massive offers elsewhere.

Richmond has not played finals since 2001, but Deledio believes the new culture of togetherness under Damien Hardwick means the improving group will stay together.

"If we can get guys like Jack and Dustin to commit to the club . . . it makes other guys think if they are staying, maybe we are starting to build something here," Deledio said.

"That is what we are trying to achieve. I would love to be a one-club player. I said it as soon as I was drafted. Free agency is coming in but I don't even understand it too much."

Deledio will join rival stars, including Hawthorn's Lance Franklin and Jarryd Roughead, who will have played eight years at their club by free agency's inception in late 2012.

Under free agency, clubs will be able to match rival offers to secure marquee players, but that is unlikely to be a concern for Deledio.

"Dimma has created a culture here where blokes want to be around the club," Deledio said.

"He has made it a family club so you are not scared to bring your girlfriend along to an after-match function, and because we are all so young and much the same age, it makes it a lot easier. You can feel it around the place. There is no top echelon. Everyone is moving to try to achieve the same thing together."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/big-free-agency-bucks-wont-tempt-tigers/story-e6frf9mx-1225999112155

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Damien Hardwick says club wants to land big fish under free agency (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2011, 02:24:15 AM »
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick says club wants to land big fish under free agency

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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says wiping the club's debt will put the Tigers in a position to nab a big fish when free agency begins next year.

As revealed in the Herald Sun this morning, The Tigers today announced their Fighting Tiger Fun which aims to raise $6 million from fans to clear the club's debt and build the football department.

Hardwick said Richmond had not been able to compete with the offers of other clubs when stars such as Chris Judd had come on the market.

Next year players will have more freedom to move between clubs, and the Tigers hope to be building a young list towards becoming a top-four challenger.

Hardwick said the money raised through the fund would allow the club to retain its stars by paying 100 per cent of its salary cap, and create a "war chest" to recruit the best available talent.

"We can go out and hunt the best players, so that if Chris Judd does become available again, Richmond are well and truly in the market," he told the AFL website.

"From our point of view, it's not only about retaining our list but it's also about engaging in free agency when it comes in.

"By investing in our footy department or the club in general, we are looking to be really active in that market - so not only can Greater Western Sydney exploit some loopholes and some rules but we are looking to be pro-active in that market, too."

Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said the fundraising push would allow the Tigers to once again be the biggest club in the AFL.

"We've been the biggest club, on and off the field in any measure. But the facts are, we are not now. We have surrendered that.

"But that is in the past. It's about the future and what that tells us is we have the capacity to get there again if we make the get the right people, make the right decisions at the right times and we have the money to invest at the right time.

"I'm confident if we get those things in place and we tick those boxes, we can be the best. After all, that's what we're all about, but it's going to take time."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-says-club-wants-to-land-big-fish-under-free-agency/story-e6freck3-1226003801963