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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2009, 02:41:48 PM »
To those of you that are going on about the leaking information and the divulging of information to me as a member.......... honesty to the supporters would not hurt.. surley?????? :whistle ::) :o

WAT - as soon as the sub committee was finalised - we (the members) were informed via the Tiger bulletin and it was on the RFC web-site before it was released to the media

To me it appeared you had an issue/preception that the club wasn't doing anything or at the speed at which you thought it should. My argument was and remains that just because it isn't blurted out via leaks to the media doens't mean they are not doing anything

Bottom line is we got told first exactly what the process is going to be via a members email and via the web-site - just the way it should be


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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2009, 08:58:40 PM »
The concern WP is that its a very internal Richmond process. Not much outside exposure or independent influence. Not drawing on wider skills and experience in the AFL industry is very typical Richmond and suggests there is already a predetermined outcome.

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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2009, 09:40:01 PM »
utlising Lindsey gaze is actually a good idea, a doyan of coaching he must be able to add something to the criteria on selecting an aspiring coach...I am glad that the likes of matthews and Walls are not involved as they have obvious leanings to their former players that tends to remove objectivity
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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2009, 09:42:05 PM »
The concern WP is that its a very internal Richmond process. Not much outside exposure or independent influence. Not drawing on wider skills and experience in the AFL industry is very typical Richmond and suggests there is already a predetermined outcome.

Fishing in a shallow gene pool never leads to success



out of interest who did Hawthorn and Essendon include onto the panel that was outside the immediacy of the club :o...would appear on the surface to have got it right :whistle
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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2009, 10:14:57 PM »
utlising Lindsey gaze is actually a good idea, a doyan of coaching he must be able to add something to the criteria on selecting an aspiring coach...I am glad that the likes of matthews and Walls are not involved as they have obvious leanings to their former players that tends to remove objectivity

Fair enough. I just like the idea of the first round being conducted by an independent external party. The final decision should be made by the club's board, then wtf are they all involved in 1st and 2nd rounds? Its a joke March is involved in the 2nd round when he is making the final decision. He is getting involved early to ensure the process goes the way he wants it to go.

Gaze may be a good idea but he has no authority in the process.

A lot of the clubs now use specialist football recruiting firms who do nothing more than keep close tabs on everyone in the market. Its professional. 

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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2009, 10:17:51 PM »
The concern WP is that its a very internal Richmond process. Not much outside exposure or independent influence. Not drawing on wider skills and experience in the AFL industry is very typical Richmond and suggests there is already a predetermined outcome.

Fishing in a shallow gene pool never leads to success



out of interest who did Hawthorn and Essendon include onto the panel that was outside the immediacy of the club :o...would appear on the surface to have got it right :whistle

Out of interest who did both Geelong and St. Kilda use?   

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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2009, 08:36:09 PM »
The concern WP is that its a very internal Richmond process. Not much outside exposure or independent influence. Not drawing on wider skills and experience in the AFL industry is very typical Richmond and suggests there is already a predetermined outcome.

Fishing in a shallow gene pool never leads to success



out of interest who did Hawthorn and Essendon include onto the panel that was outside the immediacy of the club :o...would appear on the surface to have got it right :whistle

Out of interest who did both Geelong and St. Kilda use?   

The Saints had Robert Walls on theirs.

Essendon's was more in-house IIRC. It came down to Knights and Hardwick in the final interview. The Hawks refused Hardwick taking his work laptop so that stuffed him up. Knighter was apparently more bullish about their list and had a better understanding of indigenous players.
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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2009, 10:46:21 PM »
According to scooty over at PRE here is a list of the applicants

T viney
J leppisch
M riley
B scott
A richerdson
C scott
B mitchell
K hinkley
D hardwick
D laidley
S wellman
J cripps
W campbell
L tudor
J longmire
P sumich
L cameron
G ayres
P german

Also guys like buckley will be approached

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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2009, 04:35:18 PM »
Laidley hasn't applied and there's 10-15 applicants who have.
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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2009, 04:42:59 PM »
T viney - cant see it myself
J leppisch - outsider
M riley - no
B scott - big outsider
A richerdson - smokie for the job & in the hunt
C scott - outsider
B mitchell - no
K hinkley - see alan richardson
D hardwick - yep
D laidley - some saying hasnt applied
S wellman - cant see it
J cripps - cant see it
W campbell - to early
L tudor - long outsider
J longmire - cant see it
P sumich - outsider not without a chance
L cameron - better than some on this list but probably no
G ayres - no
P german - no

Also guys like buckley will be approached


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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2009, 04:47:49 PM »
Laidley hasn't applied and there's 10-15 applicants who have.

thank god

dont rate him at all..

see Nort's draft picks which have included Hay, Thompson in the past.

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Re: New coach subcommittee - Free, Cameron and an outside consultant
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2009, 06:06:03 PM »
T viney - cant see it myself
J leppisch - outsider
M riley - no
B scott - big outsider
A richerdson - smokie for the job & in the hunt
C scott - outsider
B mitchell - no
K hinkley - see alan richardson
D hardwick - yep
D laidley - some saying hasnt applied
S wellman - cant see it
J cripps - cant see it
W campbell - to early
L tudor - long outsider
J longmire - cant see it
P sumich - outsider not without a chance
L cameron - better than some on this list but probably no
G ayres - no
P german - no

Also guys like buckley will be approached


Pretty much agree w that Ramps.

Except I reckon Brad Scott is generally regarded as a better football brain & a more stable bloke than Chris as well as having more experience and a better reputation.

Also I reckon John Longmire is a very well regarded coach and is ready for the next step. A pretty bland media performer despite his experience in that world might count against him.

Blokes like C Scott and S Wellman are almost no chance. I actually don't believe this list is legit.