At least we are No.1 in something ............. the best supporters

[one-eyed]

Got this off BF.....

Average Home game Attendances up to round 11

Richmond      54,498
Essendon      50,215
Collingwood   49,855
Hawthorn      45,603
Carlton         40,703
Adelaide        38,898
West Coast   37,410
W.Bulldogs   34,751
Fremantle     34,416
Melbourne     33,867
Geelong        30,656
Brisbane       29,584
Sydney         29,134
St Kilda        28,869
North Melb    27,546
Port Adel.      26,130


Total Attendances up to round 11

COLLINGWOOD 565,574
CARLTON          551,631
ESSENDON        532,107
HAWTHORN       474,274
RICHMOND        453,097
GEELONG          415,088
ADELAIDE         389,022
W.BULLDOGS    387,270
WEST COAST    370,836
MELBOURNE      358,019
ST.KILDA          353,916
BRISBANE         322,483
SYDNEY            317,949
FREMANTLE       311,668
NORTH MELB     304,415
PORT ADEL        300,245

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[WA Tiger]

In all honesty doesn't it just anoy the crap out of you..... imagine how big this club could be again IF we turned it around on field!!!

[Hellenic Tiger]

That's the point.

We have the numbers after all we were the number 1 team in the 60's and 70's yet Pies and Blues and Bombers have the power. These three clubs have proved they can survive without a strong on field Richmond and that's how they like it as they all know once the sleeping giant awakens a minimum of 60000 at each home game at the G and that includes games against some of the interstate clubs.

To draw parrallel lines it's much like the Liverpool Arsenal Everton Nottingham Forest dominated English club scene in the 70's and 80's and one European trophies while Man Utd underachieved and won a token trophy here and there and had an occassional win against the Liverpool's and such to keep the fans happy. After all Man Utd did get relegated in 1974 a mere 6 years after winning their first European Cup. When they arrived in 1993 they have never looked backed with challenges of Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool falling by the wayside while the red devil current dynasty still endures.

We need to follow that model used at Old Trafford.
Get the team competitive to rise up the ladder.
Play two years of successive finals.
Stability off field and allow coach to be ruthless and make on field decisions with his recruiters and assistants.
Fans will come, members will sign up, won't be seen as tokenism by club to boost coffers.
Crowds will rise. Aura about us will rise. Perceptions about us will change we will be a genuine drawcard.
With that comes money, and power as we will be seen as a money spinner. Win win for RFC and fans and AFL plus our stadia deals.
If the club has done all that right then a premiership dynasty is a mere formality.

In the early 90's all those that despised Man Utd were glad to see they fail. Why?
Because
a) They feared them if they did rise to power.
b) Jealousy of their famous name, world wide fan base.

Now most of those people who laughed back then may still hate them but not as vehemently as they did 20 years ago and in fact have a huge respect for them and even are happy to celebrate their continental success.

Things can change people so can perceptions and auras. The fans are there and that is the foundation. Do it now RFC before the people jump off.

[Hes My Hero]

I like it....

[Smokey]

In all honesty doesn't it just anoy the crap out of you..... imagine how big this club could be again IF we turned it around on field!!!

Glass half full WAT - WHEN we turn it around!!   

[WA Tiger]

In all honesty doesn't it just anoy the crap out of you..... imagine how big this club could be again IF we turned it around on field!!!

Glass half full WAT - WHEN we turn it around!!   

Are you stalking my posts smokey... WHEN.... thats what I meant...

[Smokey]

In all honesty doesn't it just anoy the crap out of you..... imagine how big this club could be again IF we turned it around on field!!!

Glass half full WAT - WHEN we turn it around!!   

Are you stalking my posts smokey... WHEN.... thats what I meant...

 

[wayne again]

That's the point.

We have the numbers after all we were the number 1 team in the 60's and 70's yet Pies and Blues and Bombers have the power. These three clubs have proved they can survive without a strong on field Richmond and that's how they like it as they all know once the sleeping giant awakens a minimum of 60000 at each home game at the G and that includes games against some of the interstate clubs.

To draw parrallel lines it's much like the Liverpool behindnal Everton Nottingham Forest dominated English club scene in the 70's and 80's and one European trophies while Man Utd underachieved and won a token trophy here and there and had an occassional win against the Liverpool's and such to keep the fans happy. After all Man Utd did get relegated in 1974 a mere 6 years after winning their first European Cup. When they arrived in 1993 they have never looked backed with challenges of Blackburn, Newcastle, behindnal, Chelsea and Liverpool falling by the wayside while the red devil current dynasty still endures.

We need to follow that model used at Old Trafford.
Get the team competitive to rise up the ladder.
Play two years of successive finals.
Stability off field and allow coach to be ruthless and make on field decisions with his recruiters and assistants.
Fans will come, members will sign up, won't be seen as tokenism by club to boost coffers.
Crowds will rise. Aura about us will rise. Perceptions about us will change we will be a genuine drawcard.
With that comes money, and power as we will be seen as a money spinner. Win win for RFC and fans and AFL plus our stadia deals.
If the club has done all that right then a premiership dynasty is a mere formality.

In the early 90's all those that despised Man Utd were glad to see they fail. Why?
Because
a) They feared them if they did rise to power.
b) Jealousy of their famous name, world wide fan base.

Now most of those people who laughed back then may still hate them but not as vehemently as they did 20 years ago and in fact have a huge respect for them and even are happy to celebrate their continental success.

Things can change people so can perceptions and auras. The fans are there and that is the foundation. Do it now RFC before the people jump off.

Great post Tuckerbag
Soccer is a complete different game, though i am warming to it each year.
The method used for Old Trafford can easly be implemented at our club no doubt as well. RFC is the sleeping giant that could grow even bigger if we start winning with young Talented kids. With wins will come more supporters and more money that brings more power.
I beleive RFC can be a stand alone Power club in the AFL if we can pull big crowds loosing imagine what we could pull winning.

[Tigermonk]

we the #1 side for the most turnovers as well thats something to brag about 

[Smokey]

we the #1 side for the most turnovers as well thats something to brag about 

And the Doggies are #3.  Go figure.

[Tigermonk]

we the #1 side for the most turnovers as well thats something to brag about 

And the Doggies are #3.  Go figure.

yeah l was a little shocked about that one Smokey, bet your freezing your nuts off up there 

[Smokey]

we the #1 side for the most turnovers as well thats something to brag about 

And the Doggies are #3.  Go figure.

yeah l was a little shocked about that one Smokey, bet your freezing your nuts off up there 

We are mate.  Coldest night for the year last night.  3^o at the airport, 5^o and a frost in the city, -2^o at Ipswich.   That's as cold as I want it up here in Bris Vegas.   

[Tigermonk]

  mountains have lots of snow on them 

[the_boy_jake]

That's the point.

We have the numbers after all we were the number 1 team in the 60's and 70's yet Pies and Blues and Bombers have the power. These three clubs have proved they can survive without a strong on field Richmond and that's how they like it as they all know once the sleeping giant awakens a minimum of 60000 at each home game at the G and that includes games against some of the interstate clubs.

To draw parrallel lines it's much like the Liverpool behindnal Everton Nottingham Forest dominated English club scene in the 70's and 80's and one European trophies while Man Utd underachieved and won a token trophy here and there and had an occassional win against the Liverpool's and such to keep the fans happy. After all Man Utd did get relegated in 1974 a mere 6 years after winning their first European Cup. When they arrived in 1993 they have never looked backed with challenges of Blackburn, Newcastle, behindnal, Chelsea and Liverpool falling by the wayside while the red devil current dynasty still endures.

We need to follow that model used at Old Trafford.
Get the team competitive to rise up the ladder.
Play two years of successive finals.
Stability off field and allow coach to be ruthless and make on field decisions with his recruiters and assistants.
Fans will come, members will sign up, won't be seen as tokenism by club to boost coffers.
Crowds will rise. Aura about us will rise. Perceptions about us will change we will be a genuine drawcard.
With that comes money, and power as we will be seen as a money spinner. Win win for RFC and fans and AFL plus our stadia deals.
If the club has done all that right then a premiership dynasty is a mere formality.

In the early 90's all those that despised Man Utd were glad to see they fail. Why?
Because
a) They feared them if they did rise to power.
b) Jealousy of their famous name, world wide fan base.

Now most of those people who laughed back then may still hate them but not as vehemently as they did 20 years ago and in fact have a huge respect for them and even are happy to celebrate their continental success.

Things can change people so can perceptions and auras. The fans are there and that is the foundation. Do it now RFC before the people jump off.

Except the AFL is a totally different beast Tuckerbag.

Man U hit the highs when Rupert's Sky money started hitting the PL. They were free to invest that money where they wanted. If Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs for instance had have been the successful team in the early 90's, with a young and marketable team it would have been different. It happened to be Man U and the rest is history.

But whilst in the AFL money is an advantage, because of the salary cap and the draft you can't just power ahead. Look at Collingwood - they got 40,000+ members, a new state-of-the-art training facility etc etc but their list still isn't one of the best because you can't buy players. You could have 60,000 members and fill the 'G every home game and it would guarantee nothing. The two scenarios are worlds apart.

[JVT]

But whilst in the AFL money is an advantage, because of the salary cap and the draft you can't just power ahead. Look at Collingwood - they got 40,000+ members, a new state-of-the-art training facility etc etc but their list still isn't one of the best because you can't buy players. You could have 60,000 members and fill the 'G every home game and it would guarantee nothing. The two scenarios are worlds apart.

You cant buy players . . . at the moment, but wait until the free player agency comes in!