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[Damo]

People expect 2 much 2 soon from KPP's.

Rance, Vickery etc

He will improve significantly next year. Ive always seen him as being very backwards in personality, but I thought one thing stood out like dogs balls with him yesterday.

The way he walked into the room to sing the song and his confidence in the group, i just instantly thought, wow, he is ready to really mature and kick on big next year.

Massive attitude change

[WilliamPowell]

Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too

[Francois Jackson]

should be given one more year. Like someone has said on here each young player should be given 2-3 years before they are moved on.

That was me 

And Post been in the system 3 years now

was very disappointe din his game yesterday

issue is with Post is that he is completely worthless so another year of minimal salary could not hurt.

You got to remember we dont have much back up in the forward line. Lose Jack, Vickery and Griff doesnt come up and we are stuffed if we have to rely on the fantasy island crew to kick our goals.

[Coach]

Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too

Surely Big G is getting the ass? He's contracted for 2012 but surely is it a similar contract to Tucks? Or have I given Craig Cameron too much credit here?

[J Buckthorn]

Greek glutes has improved this year.

Keep.

[Coach]

Buckthorn

I was on Big Gs bandwagon for a few years. even was his advocate for a few years on Beige Seems they've given up on the big fella.

[georgies31]

To harsh on the kid needs time to built confidence and let's be honest first time he has been settled in one position and not moved.There is alot to work with and Leppa will do that.All those 5 goals werent kicked on him by the way and some were free kicks by other players.

[Jackstar is back again]

Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too

Gourdis is over rated

[Owl]

Greek glutes has improved this year.

Keep.

LOL

[Coach]

Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too

Gourdis is over rated

LMAO, by who?

[WilliamPowell]

To harsh on the kid needs time to built confidence and let's be honest first time he has been settled in one position and not moved.There is alot to work with and Leppa will do that.All those 5 goals werent kicked on him by the way and some were free kicks by other players.

So how much time do you give him? He's had 3 years? DO we waint unitl he has had 5 years?

He is going 22 yo (in Dec) and have you ever asked why he wasn't drafted in the first year he was eligible? We took him in the 2008 draft when he could have been taken the year before. I just wonder a kid of his size why wasn't he taken?

As I said I was at the game on Sunday and I thought he was poor. His decision making slow, his disposal under pressure poor, his ability to hit a team mate by foot when he wasn't under pressure the greatest concern. He played mainly on Gunston and Gunston had running around in circles a lot...

There's a lot of question and right at the minute I cannot see many answers

[Jackstar is back again]

Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too

Gourdis is over rated

LMAO, by who?

By most people, if he was any good, he would have had a regular place in our team.
Dont forget we havent had Moore or Connors all year, Astbury injured, Post out of form, Thursfield struggled early,. Any good he would of played

[MintOnLamb]

What do we do with the kid, Wilma? Should hang onto him next year and give him more games, IMO. Could click. Has too much talent to not get another crack

Right at the moment I reckon he fits into the category of too good for VFL but just short of AFL standard.

He's a very contested mark but his decision making in today's game is just where it needs to be to succeed in this comp. I haven't seen iny improvement in him since his first handful of games in 2009 to be honest. IMO he went backwards last year but right now he is where he was in 2009 and that's not enough (again just my opinion)

What I would do is this: we go to trade week and see if we can land a key back, if we do then we have to seriously look at moving him (could see GWS taking him for a 3rd rounder) or we keep him for another year of insurance but I dont' see him as a long termer

These bigger bodied players take time to mature, (at 195 cm and 93kg and at 22 years old) plus he is relatively mobile. So if we ditch him now we have wasted 3 years. This is the sort of stuff we do, pick up a player at No 26 in the draft and when he is not a superstar or we become impatient we delist them, this would be a very bad decision. He has shown plenty this year,  and Dimma finally seems to have decided where Post should play. We have been saying play youth /play youth, this is what happens when you play youth, they learn stuff and they do make mistakes.
We have invested 3 years,  PLUS look at how Rance turned the corner this year. I reckon he has plenty and I would endorse a further 2 years.

[Dubstep Dookie]

What do we do with the kid, Wilma? Should hang onto him next year and give him more games, IMO. Could click. Has too much talent to not get another crack

Right at the moment I reckon he fits into the category of too good for VFL but just short of AFL standard.

He's a very contested mark but his decision making in today's game is just where it needs to be to succeed in this comp. I haven't seen iny improvement in him since his first handful of games in 2009 to be honest. IMO he went backwards last year but right now he is where he was in 2009 and that's not enough (again just my opinion)

What I would do is this: we go to trade week and see if we can land a key back, if we do then we have to seriously look at moving him (could see GWS taking him for a 3rd rounder) or we keep him for another year of insurance but I dont' see him as a long termer

These bigger bodied players take time to mature, (at 195 cm and 93kg and at 22 years old) plus he is relatively mobile. So if we ditch him now we have wasted 3 years. This is the sort of stuff we do, pick up a player at No 26 in the draft and when he is not a superstar or we become impatient we delist them, this would be a very bad decision. He has shown plenty this year,  and Dimma finally seems to have decided where Post should play. We have been saying play youth /play youth, this is what happens when you play youth, they learn stuff and they do make mistakes.
We have invested 3 years,  PLUS look at how Rance turned the corner this year. I reckon he has plenty and I would endorse a further 2 years.

Yep. 

[Stripes]

Can't see Gourdis make it though it would be a shame given his athletism, speed and smoking hot missus,  Jackstar is correct - given the state of our defense this year, if he has not been able to break into the back 6 in 2011 he will have little chance when all our defenders return and begin to develop and fight for places. We really need his spot for additional midfield depth now.

Post has far more upside than Gourdis. Post actually reminds me a bit of Rance the way he seems so nervous and makes the silly mistakes which turns the ball over. His deficencies are mainly due to nerves and inexperience. Given the same time and development opportunites that Rance took, he could easily be just as good. The big indicators is though, has he the determination to seek out help, put in the extra time and fight for his future like Rance did???