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Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy
Patrick Smith | July 13, 2009  | The Australian

FOOTBALL, of any code, is a peculiar animal. A mass of illogical pantings, unshakeable loyalty. Supporters blind to reality, businessmen with an eye to a deal. Football collects them all and somehow finds an order to it.

Each code has its quirks. Rugby league is made up of men with weak bladders and loose bowels. Soccer is a disparate swag of egos who masquerade as a team only at kick-off. And the AFL has its presidents, men who take up an inordinate amount of media space as spokesmen on just about everything and occasionally their team.

It might be an idiosyncratic role but it is an important one. The AFL's traditional volatility where, at any given time, a statutory three clubs confess to impending bankruptcy, has seen that to survive you must be ruthless and to be heard you must shout.

Some presidents adapt to this desperate environment. At Collingwood Eddie McGuire is part way to his stated aim of Collifying the world. Some presidents don't adapt. We have not heard a word, not a squeak, not a warble from St Kilda president Greg Westaway since he questioned the alcohol and naughty drug intake of the previous board.

Gary March runs Richmond. He would rather not be seen or heard. That is difficult when you lead a club with the combustible profile of the Tigers and have a chief executive in Steven Wright who took a vow of silence on appointment.

March is not comfortable with the media. He is not practised in the ways of deflection and distraction. He is not subtle. To make a point he uses a lance where others might use a needle. And that is why Kevin Sheedy will not coach Richmond. It is why the four-time premiership coach withdrew his application for the job on the weekend. An out-take from an early season interview was shown on Channel Nine's The Footy Show last Thursday night in which March said that Sheedy would not be entertained as a coach for the club. While March's position in that interview was made public previously by Nine reporter Craig Hutchison, Sheedy - until The Footy Show - was oblivious to it. It was the first time Sheedy had been made aware of any suspicions or doubts March might have had about his future at the club.

Unsurprisingly, Sheedy saw the comments as a slight. He felt he could no longer trust the appointment process as outlined to him by Richmond management, including general manager of football, Craig Cameron, and football director Tony Free. So just as Sheedy's campaign was gathering momentum, he pulled out. The Sunday Herald Sun reported his decision yesterday.

Sheedy rang Cameron on Saturday night as the Tigers celebrated their past 50 years, a half-century that included Richmond's sustained dominance that collected five premierships from 1967 to 1980. It was an evening when support for Sheedy's return to the club as coach was conspicuous.

Club and AFL legend Kevin Bartlett, who had enthusiastically supported Sheedy's intention to seek the coaching position, said yesterday that everybody was a loser following his former premiership teammate's decision.

"At the very least Kevin's record as coach, his knowledge and experience, would have put everybody's applications into perspective," Bartlett said.

Bartlett called for the club to encourage Sheedy's involvement after satisfying himself that the former Essendon coach was wholehearted in his determination to help rebuild the Richmond team. Before going to air with his morning Hungry For Sport program on SEN radio on 1 July, Bartlett spoke to Sheedy to confirm that he wanted the Richmond job.

Only after Sheedy confirmed his eagerness - which underlined Bartlett's belief that the coach had been revitalised since leaving Essendon at the end of 2007 - did Bartlett announce his support for one of Richmond's much-loved former champions.

"The club needs a shake-up and there's only one person to do that," Bartlett said on SEN. "Kevin Sheedy is an extraordinary individual, he is a proven winner and the obvious is staring the club in the face."

It is unlikely now that Sheedy will continue in his ambassadorial role at the club, though, such is his generosity of spirit, he may well contribute when asked. On Saturday he was busy wooing the NSW government for a contribution to the AFL's western Sydney project and yesterday flew to Fiji for a speaking engagement. His energy and enthusiasm cannot be questioned.

Nobody should wear the blame alone for Sheedy's withdrawal. March's early season comments were made when no one considered Sheedy a likely candidate and the tenure of coach Terry Wallace was continually being questioned. March sought to stabilise the club and Wallace's authority by denying Sheedy was under consideration as a replacement. March's comments though carried an emphasis borne of media naivety.

That Channel Nine did not think enough of March's observations to run with them at the time shows how unlucky March is that they have rebounded to harm him and the Tigers now. Nonetheless, a president more at ease in front of a camera - and not fearful that he must always sound strong and in control - would have suggested that no one was being considered because Wallace was the coach.

March sought to clarify his position last week. He denied a report that he had previously told Sheedy personally that he would not get the job, said he welcomed Sheedy's interest in the position and explained the context of his early season comments to Channel Nine.

But when Sheedy caught up with the comments on The Footy Show he felt betrayed by his old club. It was the first and very last indication to Sheedy that his bid to be the next coach of Richmond was compromised.

Sheedy is an extraordinary personality, veering in so many directions at any given time, that it makes the man unpredictable to the point of frustration. Essendon was not clever enough to handle his departure with dignity and Richmond has flunked its opportunity to secure his arrival. But he continues to be one of the most influential characters in the game's history.

He had been impressed with the sincerity of Free and Cameron and both Richmond men, charged with establishing the protocols for finding the new coach, were excited by Sheedy's commitment. The pity now, of course, is that this Richmond administration will never know whether Sheedy was the right man for the job.

And that was the very least it owed its members.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25769785-12270,00.html

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 04:43:34 AM »
So it's the Club's fault Patrick that KB with Sheeds' backing and yourself cheering KB on on his morning show couldn't keep their big mouths shut and instead pushed Sheeds' case in a vain attempt to gather public support (which didn't eventuate) to force the Club's hand and to bypass the selection panel process in place to get their man over the line ::).
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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 07:23:22 AM »
Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy
And that is why Kevin Sheedy will not coach Richmond. It is why the four-time premiership coach withdrew his application for the job on the weekend. An out-take from an early season interview was shown on Channel Nine's The Footy Show last Thursday night in which March said that Sheedy would not be entertained as a coach for the club. While March's position in that interview was made public previously by Nine reporter Craig Hutchison, Sheedy - until The Footy Show - was oblivious to it. It was the first time Sheedy had been made aware of any suspicions or doubts March might have had about his future at the club.

Are you really that naive no make that STUPID Patrick? Give me a break ... as I said what rock has Sheeds been living under for the last 5 months. Were you there with him Patrick?

He didn't know? Yeah right... nice try campaign workers   ::)

Club and AFL legend Kevin Bartlett, who had enthusiastically supported Sheedy's intention to seek the coaching position, said yesterday that everybody was a loser following his former premiership teammate's decision.

"At the very least Kevin's record as coach, his knowledge and experience, would have put everybody's applications into perspective," Bartlett said.

You know what KB you maybe right but we will never know because your mate has cracked the sads, not got what he wanted and packed up his bat and ball and gone home...

Kevin Sheedy pulled out, no one forced him he did it on his own. So instead of blaming everyone else but Sheeds perhaps you, KB could ask him for us why did he do it because his answer "I don't thnk the club wants me" just doesn't cut it
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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 07:33:21 AM »
Wasnt Smith a Casey Miller supporter when the elections were on back then?

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 07:34:42 AM »
Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy
Patrick Smith | July 13, 2009  | The Australian
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While March's position in that interview was made public previously by Nine reporter Craig Hutchison, Sheedy - until The Footy Show - was oblivious to it. It was the first time Sheedy had been made aware of any suspicions or doubts March might have had about his future at the club.

Sorry Kevin, I don't believe that for a moment.  It was very public knowledge in the wider football community.  No way, no how, someone with their finger on the football pulse like you claim to have would not have been aware of those comments.

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"The club needs a shake-up and there's only one person to do that," Bartlett said on SEN.

If this were true then we may as well fold now.  Any shake up is going to have to be a team effort otherwise there can be no generational shift, no cultural metamorphosis.

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Nobody should wear the blame alone for Sheedy's withdrawal.

Hang on, the whole thrust of the article is to point the finger at one individual - March!

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March's early season comments were made when no one considered Sheedy a likely candidate and the tenure of coach Terry Wallace was continually being questioned. March sought to stabilise the club and Wallace's authority by denying Sheedy was under consideration as a replacement.

And I could have sworn at the time that Sheedy was asked several times for responding comments and despite his cryptic and non-confirmatory answers he was more than aware of what he was responding to and happy to 'almost' say no, I agree with the President.

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March sought to clarify his position last week. He denied a report that he had previously told Sheedy personally that he would not get the job, said he welcomed Sheedy's interest in the position and explained the context of his early season comments to Channel Nine.

If Sheedy distrusted March so much to not believe this then he was never ever going to succeed at the club without a major board spill.  Just ask Terry Wallace how much the support of a President means!!

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But when Sheedy caught up with the comments on The Footy Show he felt betrayed by his old club. It was the first and very last indication to Sheedy that his bid to be the next coach of Richmond was compromised.

Back to my original point - not a chance in living hell Sheedy was not aware of the original comments a long long time ago.  He is using them now as a get out of jail card - nothing more.

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Sheedy is an extraordinary personality, veering in so many directions at any given time, that it makes the man unpredictable to the point of frustration.

Yet this is the "only man" capable of leading the club out of the wilderness?  God help us.

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He had been impressed with the sincerity of Free and Cameron and both Richmond men, charged with establishing the protocols for finding the new coach, were excited by Sheedy's commitment.

Back to my point about trust.  If Sheedy didn't trust these 2 key and influential parts of the selection process then he was never ever going to succeed - in either his application or as coach.

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The pity now, of course, is that this Richmond administration will never know whether Sheedy was the right man for the job.

Sadly, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, we do now.  Sheedy has made it plainly obvious.

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 10:28:15 AM »
Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy
Patrick Smith | July 13, 2009  | The Australian
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While March's position in that interview was made public previously by Nine reporter Craig Hutchison, Sheedy - until The Footy Show - was oblivious to it. It was the first time Sheedy had been made aware of any suspicions or doubts March might have had about his future at the club.

Sorry Kevin, I don't believe that for a moment.  It was very public knowledge in the wider football community.  No way, no how, someone with their finger on the football pulse like you claim to have would not have been aware of those comments.

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"The club needs a shake-up and there's only one person to do that," Bartlett said on SEN.

If this were true then we may as well fold now.  Any shake up is going to have to be a team effort otherwise there can be no generational shift, no cultural metamorphosis.

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Nobody should wear the blame alone for Sheedy's withdrawal.

Hang on, the whole thrust of the article is to point the finger at one individual - March!

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March's early season comments were made when no one considered Sheedy a likely candidate and the tenure of coach Terry Wallace was continually being questioned. March sought to stabilise the club and Wallace's authority by denying Sheedy was under consideration as a replacement.

And I could have sworn at the time that Sheedy was asked several times for responding comments and despite his cryptic and non-confirmatory answers he was more than aware of what he was responding to and happy to 'almost' say no, I agree with the President.

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March sought to clarify his position last week. He denied a report that he had previously told Sheedy personally that he would not get the job, said he welcomed Sheedy's interest in the position and explained the context of his early season comments to Channel Nine.

If Sheedy distrusted March so much to not believe this then he was never ever going to succeed at the club without a major board spill.  Just ask Terry Wallace how much the support of a President means!!

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But when Sheedy caught up with the comments on The Footy Show he felt betrayed by his old club. It was the first and very last indication to Sheedy that his bid to be the next coach of Richmond was compromised.

Back to my original point - not a chance in living hell Sheedy was not aware of the original comments a long long time ago.  He is using them now as a get out of jail card - nothing more.

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Sheedy is an extraordinary personality, veering in so many directions at any given time, that it makes the man unpredictable to the point of frustration.

Yet this is the "only man" capable of leading the club out of the wilderness?  God help us.

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He had been impressed with the sincerity of Free and Cameron and both Richmond men, charged with establishing the protocols for finding the new coach, were excited by Sheedy's commitment.

Back to my point about trust.  If Sheedy didn't trust these 2 key and influential parts of the selection process then he was never ever going to succeed - in either his application or as coach.

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The pity now, of course, is that this Richmond administration will never know whether Sheedy was the right man for the job.

Sadly, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, we do now.  Sheedy has made it plainly obvious.

spot on smokey

sheeds is a bigger snake oil salesman than wallet ever dreamed of being

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 12:30:20 PM »

If Sheeds thought he had public support he would have stayed in the process. He's not afraid of March. He thought the unorchestrated wave of irrational exuberance that materialised behind the Cousins recruitment would again surface to steamroll him over March (and anyone else) into the coaches box.

The fact that it hasnt is why he quit on the weekend.

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 01:33:16 PM »
Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy
Patrick Smith | July 13, 2009  | The Australian
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While March's position in that interview was made public previously by Nine reporter Craig Hutchison, Sheedy - until The Footy Show - was oblivious to it. It was the first time Sheedy had been made aware of any suspicions or doubts March might have had about his future at the club.

Sorry Kevin, I don't believe that for a moment.  It was very public knowledge in the wider football community.  No way, no how, someone with their finger on the football pulse like you claim to have would not have been aware of those comments.

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"The club needs a shake-up and there's only one person to do that," Bartlett said on SEN.

If this were true then we may as well fold now.  Any shake up is going to have to be a team effort otherwise there can be no generational shift, no cultural metamorphosis.

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Nobody should wear the blame alone for Sheedy's withdrawal.

Hang on, the whole thrust of the article is to point the finger at one individual - March!

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March's early season comments were made when no one considered Sheedy a likely candidate and the tenure of coach Terry Wallace was continually being questioned. March sought to stabilise the club and Wallace's authority by denying Sheedy was under consideration as a replacement.

And I could have sworn at the time that Sheedy was asked several times for responding comments and despite his cryptic and non-confirmatory answers he was more than aware of what he was responding to and happy to 'almost' say no, I agree with the President.

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March sought to clarify his position last week. He denied a report that he had previously told Sheedy personally that he would not get the job, said he welcomed Sheedy's interest in the position and explained the context of his early season comments to Channel Nine.

If Sheedy distrusted March so much to not believe this then he was never ever going to succeed at the club without a major board spill.  Just ask Terry Wallace how much the support of a President means!!

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But when Sheedy caught up with the comments on The Footy Show he felt betrayed by his old club. It was the first and very last indication to Sheedy that his bid to be the next coach of Richmond was compromised.

Back to my original point - not a chance in living hell Sheedy was not aware of the original comments a long long time ago.  He is using them now as a get out of jail card - nothing more.

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Sheedy is an extraordinary personality, veering in so many directions at any given time, that it makes the man unpredictable to the point of frustration.

Yet this is the "only man" capable of leading the club out of the wilderness?  God help us.

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He had been impressed with the sincerity of Free and Cameron and both Richmond men, charged with establishing the protocols for finding the new coach, were excited by Sheedy's commitment.

Back to my point about trust.  If Sheedy didn't trust these 2 key and influential parts of the selection process then he was never ever going to succeed - in either his application or as coach.

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The pity now, of course, is that this Richmond administration will never know whether Sheedy was the right man for the job.

Sadly, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, we do now.  Sheedy has made it plainly obvious.

spot on smokey

sheeds is a bigger snake oil salesman than wallet ever dreamed of being

yeah no worries

he has done more for the game in 6 months that Wallet ever did in his whole career.
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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 02:07:16 PM »
daniel , your correct.
How many flags has Wallet coached?? So many we have lost count. :lol :lol

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 02:13:49 PM »
daniel , your correct.
How many flags has Wallet coached?? So many we have lost count. :lol :lol

they have more in common than you think.

They are both unemployable in the afl as afl coaches, and have both used and abused richmond in the last few years to further their own selfish interests

oh yeah, and they are both money hungry pr!cks

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 02:27:50 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2009, 02:38:24 PM »
This is rubbish.

Can the media do there job and find out the real reasons as to why this has happened.

If Sheedy has withdrawn his application over remarks March said 6 months ago that are now irrelevant I'll swallow my plastic membership card.

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2009, 02:45:09 PM »
Sheeds will be coach. Just wait and see. :thumbsup

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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2009, 05:13:09 PM »
Just proves how egotistical and destructive all these men are who wanted Sheeds to coach and how close to disaster we would have been again in 3 years time if he had been appointed. Furthermore these coterie groups should lay low and stfu now and let the club follow its processes diligently and efficiently.

Two faced dogs of death KB and Sheeds and all his old premiership buds who were pushing his case. Now that he realises that the club is bigger than his deflated ego and Sheeds revolves around the club and not the club around Sheeds lets foul mouth the club and get our buddies to do it and say how destructive the club is blah blah blah. That's why we go nowhere. Time for these blokes to move on. Thanks for all your premiership success from 67-80 but 82-09 has been more prolific and noone refers to 67-80 nowadays when talking about  RFC but 82-09.

To use a Jackstar and Daniel term on these old fogeys trying to run the club from behind the scenes and then crying foul when things don't fall their way.
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Re: Richmond blew chance for Kevin Sheedy: Patrick Smith (Australian)
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2009, 07:20:20 PM »
daniel , your correct.
How many flags has Wallet coached?? So many we have lost count. :lol :lol

they have more in common than you think.

They are both unemployable in the afl as afl coaches, and have both used and abused richmond in the last few years to further their own selfish interests

oh yeah, and they are both money hungry pr!cks

You know whats funny Blaisee.
Kevin Sheedy would be one of the best individuals you will ever meet in a lifetime
There is more to Kevin the coach , the player etc. he is a genuine person who only wants to see the RFC be successfull again
His relationship with people like Betty Cuthbert  etc and his UNPAID efforts with the indigeous people in the NT is absolutely fantastic.
Blow flys like you post crap on internet forums that really poos me to tears.
Dont even bother replying to this Blaisee :(
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