Richardson, Hardwick, Rawlings and Hinkley left in RFC coaching race

[Jackstar is back]

Wouldnt think a low profile person would be the way to go

Not having a go Jack, just interested to know why you think that?

First hand experince tells me that the person appointed needs to stamp his ""own print"" on the place, otherwise we are going around in circles. as we have the previous 8 coaches
Current culture and personnel wont allow a low profile person to be successful.
needs a Leigh Matthews type who would bring people with him.
What is amazing that no details have been released in regards to what people the successful person would bring. to the RFC
Common knowledge when Bucks was being touted for a coaching job that Sanderson from Geelong would be one of his assistants.

Its pointless appointing Ken Hinkley if his assistants would be Campbell, Sugar and Rawlings.
I think this process thing is a mess actually., and I have my reasons

[Francois Jackson]

that remains to be seen but if one of Rawlings, Sugar or McCrae remain on the coaching panel in some way then im sorry to say people we have another 3 years of this rubbish to come.

[Ramps]

why jacko?


and can someone tell us what specific role Hinkley does at Geelong?

[Ramps]

Just did some research:

Ken Hinkley is the attacking/forward coach, responsible for Geelongs attack structure.

Anyone wanna tell us what they think of Geelongs Forward line?

[TigerTimeII]

Just did some research:

Ken Hinkley is the attacking/forward coach, responsible for Geelongs attack structure.

Anyone wanna tell us what they think of Geelongs Forward line?

there fwd line works great , they work for each other they make space for each other, they have a defensive side in their fwd line
and they kick big scores with no dominant focal point , just a team working for each other
they have had injury worries all yr and dont have twin towers in th emould of browm/bradshaw , kosi/ st nick, buddy/roughy

but they still manage pretty good with what they have

every team ken h has coached at whatever level has turned to gold, cant say that about softwick

[Ramps]

Just did some research:

Ken Hinkley is the attacking/forward coach, responsible for Geelongs attack structure.

Anyone wanna tell us what they think of Geelongs Forward line?

there fwd line works great , they work for each other they make space for each other, they have a defensive side in their fwd line
and they kick big scores with no dominant focal point , just a team working for each other
they have had injury worries all yr and dont have twin towers in th emould of browm/bradshaw , kosi/ st nick, buddy/roughy

but they still manage pretty good with what they have

every team ken h has coached at whatever level has turned to gold, cant say that about softwick

Geelongs forward line is its weakest link. Its the reason why they lost last years Premiership and its the reason why they wont win it this year. Hawkins has every potential but hasnt come on- FAIL, the only reason they kick big scores is because of its midfield, including Selwood and Ablett lol ... any club if they had Selwood and Ablett would do well, in the forward besides Johnson, they are very very average. And thats the truth of it.

[Smokey]

and can someone tell us what specific role Hinkley does at Geelong?

In his first couple of years he was responsible for the forward line.  Now he is classed as the 'senior' assistant coach and is in charge of the offensive (attacking) strategies for all zones.

Here's some more info Ramps:

Ken Hinkley
Playing Career
Fitzroy: 11 games, 21 goals
Geelong: 121 games, 58 goals

Coaching Career
Geelong: asst coach 2004-09
Bell Park: coach 2002-03
St Kilda: asst coach 2001
Camperdown: coach 1999-2000
Mortlake: coach 1996-98

The 2008 season marked Ken’s fifth as an assistant coach with the Cats and saw him help the club to a fifth grand final as player or coach. The season marked Ken’s 12th overall at Skilled Stadium, having played 121 games in seven years with the club. He was a key member of the drought breaking coaching staff that landed the 2007 flag.

Since returning to Geelong as an assistant coach the Cats have fashioned a 83-36-1 record.

He spent most of the 2001 season at St Kilda as an assistant with Malcolm Blight.

Hinkley began his coaching career immediately after retiring as an AFL player. He coached Mortlake in the Hampden League before crossing to Camperdown. He led the club to back-to-back premierships in 1999 and 2000 before heading to Moorabbin in 2001.

Hinkley returned to Geelong in 2002, and spent two seasons as coach at Bell Park. He posted a 30-10-3 record at the helm, including a premiership in the 2003 Geelong League grand final replay against St Mary’s.

Overall Hinkley has a 83-49-3 win-loss mark as a coach.

COACHING RECORD
Year    Club    League    Pl    W    L    D    Pct    Pos
1996    Mortlake    Hampden    18    3    15    0    17    8th
1997    Mortlake    Hampden    16    8    8    0    50    6th
1998    Mortlake    Hampden    18    3    15    0    17    8th
1999    C'down    Hampden    20    20    0    0    100    1st
2000    C'down    Hampden    20    19    1    0    95    1st
2002    Bell Park    Geelong            20    13    6    1    68    4th
2003    Bell Park    Geelong            23    17    4    2    78    1st
Total                                    135    83    49    3    63    

PLAYING HISTORY

Ken Hinkley made his name as an attacking half back with Geelong. He began his AFL career with Fitzroy as a forward, but after one season he returned home to Camperdown and it appeared his league career would end after 11 games and 20 goals.

Geelong enticed him to Skilled Stadium and he went on to play 121 games with the Cats. Hinkley played in three grand finals, and was club captain in 1995.

Hinkley finished third in the Brownlow Medal in 1992, the same season that he captured the Cats’ best & fairest award. He earned All Australian honours in 1991 and 1992, represented Victoria and was considered one of the AFL's elite players.

Overall Hinkley played 132 AFL games and kicked 79 goals.

[Smokey]

Just did some research:

Ken Hinkley is the attacking/forward coach, responsible for Geelongs attack structure.

Anyone wanna tell us what they think of Geelongs Forward line?

You have misread that badly Ramps.  He is in charge of offensive strategies for all zones.  I would ask you this - what do you think of Geelong's attacking strategies from their fullback line to their full forward line?

[Ramps]

Just did some research:

Ken Hinkley is the attacking/forward coach, responsible for Geelongs attack structure.

Anyone wanna tell us what they think of Geelongs Forward line?

You have misread that badly Ramps.  He is in charge of offensive strategies for all zones.  I would ask you this - what do you think of Geelong's attacking strategies from their fullback line to their full forward line?

Its good when the full back is playing when he isnt they are average, the midfield is where there strength is because it includes Selwood, Ablett and co. and the midfield attacking set up is excellent - up forward they are very average indeed.

[Smokey]

Yes but he doesn't coach the forward line as such any more.  He is charge of their offensive strategies as a whole team and I charge anyone to come up with a more successful offensive or attacking team across the whole field than Geelong.  Even their forward line is extremely attacking and their strategies are very sound - they lack some finishing skill that hurts but that is not Hinkley's domain or fault.

[Ramps]

We're not going to agree smokey. The Geelong Forward line is very average. There seems to have been no development of KP Forwards at all. In the end, Im sure all these points will be considered anyway.

[Smokey]

Their output/finishing is not outstanding Ramps but they still get a heap of the ball and have sound attacking strategies.  And only the Bulldogs have scored more goals than them this year - what are you basing your opinion on?

[one-eyed]

Caro today ruled out Jade and said it will come down to two of the remaining three to make a final presentation to the RFC Board. From what she was saying she either thinks Richardson will be one of them or there's support for him to get the gig. Probably just more media guesswork.

[one-eyed]

North Melbourne and Richmond expected to announce new coaches
August 16, 2009 .

North Melbourne chairman James Brayshaw says the club will decide this week on their new coach for the 2010 AFL season.

The Kangaroos have cut their list of prospective candidates down to three - Hawthorn assistant Damien Hardwick, Collingwood assistant Brad Scott and caretaker coach Darren Crocker.

Hardwick is considered the favourite.

"All three have been fantastic and all three are very much in the mix and we will have an answer for you shortly," Brayshaw told the Nine Network's AFL Footy Show.

Asked when the coach would be named, he said: "I expect before the end of the week."

Meanwhile, Richmond president Gary March said on Saturday the Tigers expected to name their new coach within 10 days.

The Tigers' four-man list of remaining candidates also includes Hardwick.

The others are Geelong assistant Ken Hinkley, Essendon assistant Alan Richardson and caretaker coach Jade Rawlings.

March said the fact that North and the Tigers were considering Hardwick and the Kangaroos are due to make a decision first would not cause his club to rush their choice.

Geelong coach Mark Thompson has urged Hinkley to push his case.

"I think he's down to the last four at Richmond. We have just been encouraging Ken to go out and try to find a job," said Thompson.

"We think he's more than ready to step up to be a senior coach but if he doesn't, we're more than happy to have him at Geelong.

"But we would never jump in the way of him trying to further his career and coach a team in his own right."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25936789-23211,00.html

[one-eyed]

Rumours in the media tonight (MMM and SEN) that Brad Scott may have the North job.

If true it's frees us up to not rush a decision on our 4 candidates.