WRONG COACHING APPOINTMENT WILL SEE 10000 MEMBERSHIP DECLINE

[Infamy]

Vickery was playing Reserves at the start of the year, but had also been listed in the bests for Coburg Seniors a couple of times before his promotion. Alroy is coming from a long way back fitness wise and was a bit overwhelmed in his first senior match only 2 weeks ago, he struggled to adjust to the pace and made a blue which cost us the match. Maybe he can snag a spot in the game against West Coast in his home state, but not sure when the last chance is to elevate a rookie.

[bojangles17]

If our club makes a wrong decision then the club will lose at least 10000 members possibly more. We have average draft picks, to many players who are rubbish, to many players who dont care.

so you're suggesting to me that the members are so discerning that if we elect to go with Hinkley over Hardwick or Richardosn over Hardwick they all drop off...Now you listen to me chum....30,000 of our members wouldnt know any of these candidates if they fell over them...we're not talking sheedy Vs Rawlings here...it's three bloody untried rookies...get a grip of the situation pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

[Ramps]

If our club makes a wrong decision then the club will lose at least 10000 members possibly more. We have average draft picks, to many players who are rubbish, to many players who dont care.

so you're suggesting to me that the members are so discerning that if we elect to go with Hinkley over Hardwick or Richardosn over Hardwick they all drop off...Now you listen to me chum....30,000 of our members wouldnt know any of these candidates if they fell over them...we're not talking sheedy Vs Rawlings here...it's three bloody untried rookies...get a grip of the situation pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

first im not your chum, this is not only a coaching appointment its also an appointment that needs to take in abit of marketing, rightly or wrongly Hardwick is seen as the next best candidate and he seems to be the overwhelming favorite amongst our supporters. That being the case, its probably best he gets the job because we will lose less members if he is appointed.

[Rodgerramjet]

Perception, it's all about perception.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Cuz hype brought us 2 million bux profit this year. There or thereabouts on the back of 8 wins in the second half of the year in 2008.

This year we will finish with 5.5 wins.

Jade won't coach and I am still convinced that Hardwick is the man based o n the success he has been part of elsewhere. Nevertheless regardless of who coaches us next year there will be no knight in shining armour to boost the coffers (Cousins type recruitment) next year and the club will more than likely struggle.

2011 and 2012 are the key years given the time the coach will have had to adopt a playing style and stamp his mark on the list and club. The club can't keep failing on and off the field while others who have struggled for 100 or so years start churning out flags. Fans will grow tiresome and will drop off.

Furthermore fans who were old enough to remember the good old days 67-80 as well as teenagers and older people at that time may have indoctrinated the yellow and black to their offspring as well as zoning recruitment where people supported a side based on which club were the VFL recruiter in their area are long gone. If people don't see success then they do not want to be a part of it. We have excellent colors and an excellent nickname in the Tigers a strong virile powerful animal that helps also but that's it right now. When all these older fans die off what will we have? Loyalty lamentably is also a thing of the past too. People want to be associated with aggression success and fast paced excitement. What have we got at the moment?

We have to keep these fans on board before we lose them forever. Look at North do we want to become a loser nothing club like them where they love to talk themselves up as a Shinboner Spirit and forever epitomise themselves as the underdog to garnish support?
People don't want that or want to support that unless your some sort of masochist. Even when Carey was dominating you would think that now they would be able to benefit from it financially now with those kids being all grown up and buying memberships. No ,why? Shinboner Spirit underdog loser mentality. Is that what we want to end up as so that 20 years from now if we do win a premiership, flag, cup whatever it would be seen as a grat achievement for a club who has struggled for half a century as opposed to if Collingwood win a flag lets say this year it would be seen as dividends for all the hard work Eddie has done to make them the most professional and ruthless club in the land. We were once that some of us are old enough to remember this. It's time to get that reputation back otherwise we will be the next South Melbourne/ Fitzroy and we are all old enough to remember one of that.

[Chuck17]

I guess the only slack I cut Rawlings is the fact that he has inherited the current list and that was built by Wallace and Greg Miller. BUT, his gameplan (or lack of) is evident for all to see when things do not go to plan. Do us a favour Jade, make sure we lost in the next 2 rounds so we can at least end up with a draft pick we deserve (likely number 3).

You would have to say that since we cut older players and blooded the kids that the aim was never to win games.  ATM we are young kids coming up against hard experienced teams still in the thick of finals action.

Regardless of who the caretaker coach was they were on a hiding to nothing.

[bojangles17]

If our club makes a wrong decision then the club will lose at least 10000 members possibly more. We have average draft picks, to many players who are rubbish, to many players who dont care.

so you're suggesting to me that the members are so discerning that if we elect to go with Hinkley over Hardwick or Richardosn over Hardwick they all drop off...Now you listen to me chum....30,000 of our members wouldnt know any of these candidates if they fell over them...we're not talking sheedy Vs Rawlings here...it's three bloody untried rookies...get a grip of the situation pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

first im not your chum, this is not only a coaching appointment its also an appointment that needs to take in abit of marketing, rightly or wrongly Hardwick is seen as the next best candidate and he seems to be the overwhelming favorite amongst our supporters. That being the case, its probably best he gets the job because we will lose less members if he is appointed.

quit the meolodrama, I still maintain...90%+ of supporters wouldnt know Hardwick from Hinkley from richardson if they fell over them...to suggest they feel that strongly over any ONE of these is fanciful. Don't think for a minute you are representative of the entire RFC members base...YOU are NOT

[Ramps]

If our club makes a wrong decision then the club will lose at least 10000 members possibly more. We have average draft picks, to many players who are rubbish, to many players who dont care.

so you're suggesting to me that the members are so discerning that if we elect to go with Hinkley over Hardwick or Richardosn over Hardwick they all drop off...Now you listen to me chum....30,000 of our members wouldnt know any of these candidates if they fell over them...we're not talking sheedy Vs Rawlings here...it's three bloody untried rookies...get a grip of the situation pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

first im not your chum, this is not only a coaching appointment its also an appointment that needs to take in abit of marketing, rightly or wrongly Hardwick is seen as the next best candidate and he seems to be the overwhelming favorite amongst our supporters. That being the case, its probably best he gets the job because we will lose less members if he is appointed.

quit the meolodrama, I still maintain...90%+ of supporters wouldnt know Hardwick from Hinkley from richardson if they fell over them...to suggest they feel that strongly over any ONE of these is fanciful. Don't think for a minute you are representative of the entire RFC members base...YOU are NOT

I never said I was representing anybody- never have and never will, I dont do melodramas, I suggest you go and see what our supporters are saying across a whole range of forums, listen to talkback radio, and then come back and tell us what they are thinking- because Ive done those things I can tell you that Damien Hardwick is clear cut the favorite choice of our supporters.

[FooffooValve]

How do we know that Hardwick is a "hard bastard"? Is it because he has the word "Hard" in his name? 

Is it how he played the game?  Is it because he looks tough? How do we know that is what he stands for?

Did Clarkson look like the sort of bloke that would institute a rolling cluster?

How de we know that Richardson isn't a hard bastard?

[Ramps]

How do we know that Hardwick is a "hard bastard"? Is it because he has the word "Hard" in his name? 

Is it how he played the game?  Is it because he looks tough? How do we know that is what he stands for?

Did Clarkson look like the sort of bloke that would institute a rolling cluster?

How de we know that Richardson isn't a hard bastard?

Hardwick was certainly a tough customer as a player. He was recruited by Port Adelaide specifically to toughen up Port Adelaide's team. As for the rolling cluster, I dont know who developed it. Richardson doesnt come across being really tough, I listened to him over the weekend, hes clearly a developmental type coach, and that is what he put forward on the radio interview. Hinkley may or may not be, hes been at Geelong a fair while now. Hopefully the process can draw these things out.

[Gordon Bennett]

What a load of melodramatic rubbish.

Mr.Bojangles, you can dance, and you're right on the money.

[Ramps]

What a load of melodramatic rubbish.

Mr.Bojangles, you can dance, and you're right on the money.

melodramatic rubbish = those who went onto forums and demanded that the club sign Jade Rawlings after his first weeks in the job.

Lets see what happens to our membership numbers this time next season. Until then Im entitled to my opinion and you guys are entitled to yours, I believe we will lose members. If Im wrong I will be man enough to come on here and apologise. Will you guys do the same?

[bojangles17]

oh my ramps and I can just see the NM supporters in tears over appointing scott over Norm Smith, whoops I meant Hardwick, yeah the bloke thats never coached a side in his life....hmmm devasted Im sure ....NB...Roger Merret was a hard bastard perhaps you should galvanise some support to have him installed as coach

NM have seen the good sense in realising the enormity of this role demands more than being able to dish out a decent shirtfront....requires a real high callibre individual to manage/guide 50 people in one direction...sounds to me scott may be a good fit

[Gordon Bennett]

What a load of melodramatic rubbish.

Mr.Bojangles, you can dance, and you're right on the money.

melodramatic rubbish = those who went onto forums and demanded that the club sign Jade Rawlings after his first weeks in the job.

Lets see what happens to our membership numbers this time next season. Until then Im entitled to my opinion and you guys are entitled to yours, I believe we will lose members. If Im wrong I will be man enough to come on here and apologise. Will you guys do the same?

It's a meaningless statement about the apology, because how are you going to measure how many members we would have had with Hardwick compared to how many we may end up having with an alternative choice?

[FooffooValve]

If we based our decision on what we thought the membership figures might do, then we would have appointed Sheedy moons ago. The tail shouldn't wag the dog, as it has for too many years at Richmond.

Just appoint the bloke that comes thru best out of our process. There are some seriously good people on that panel — whoever they come up with will be fine by me.