WRONG COACHING APPOINTMENT WILL SEE 10000 MEMBERSHIP DECLINE

[WilliamPowell]

In all seriousness are you guys happy with the final 4 candidates? Im underwhelmed by the names to be honest and I have serious doubts that any of the 4 can lift Richmond out of the massive hole in which we find ourselves.

As you know Ramps I have my preference out of the final 4 and I've always had an open mind about Richardson

But as for the other 2....  well the bridesmaid I've had question marks on him all along and Hinkley doesn't grab my attention either. Having just read Mark Thompson's comments about him being a practical joker etc the alarm bells are ringing over him too now 

It's funny I see North as a joke of a club but I will admit to having just a ounce of respect for them taking the punt on Brad Scott... it's a bold appointment, a bit daring if you like and that's what I actually want Richmond to do, make a tough call, a bold call.

2 out of the 4 for me at least just look like the predictable or even "soft/obvious" choices and my gut tells me that isn't what this Club needs

 

[Hellenic Tiger]

In all seriousness are you guys happy with the final 4 candidates? Im underwhelmed by the names to be honest and I have serious doubts that any of the 4 can lift Richmond out of the massive hole in which we find ourselves.

In my humble opinion Hardwick is the best of the four from a footballing perspective, but as I have previously stated in other threads the problems at Richmond are not merely confined to the coaches box and playing field. As we are patently aware they run much deeper and are so deep rooted to the fabric of the club on and off the field that it won't take a new coach and a few close allies to change this.

What the RFC needs to do is fin that perfect fit for the club that will unite everybody whether it is a coach, a new Pres, a CEO whoever. This powerbroker will have all the power in his hand and all and sundry will adhere. Any other appointment will merely be a token appointment. Lamentably I feel these candidates true worth will be lost to us in the current environment at Punt Rd. I hope time will prove me wrong but given the last 27 years I'm not counting on it .  

[DallasCrane]

In all seriousness are you guys happy with the final 4 candidates? Im underwhelmed by the names to be honest and I have serious doubts that any of the 4 can lift Richmond out of the massive hole in which we find ourselves.

Ramps I got seduced by the Nathan Buckley idea for a while, I even let my mind flirt with the idea of Leigh Matthews and even Grant Thomas, even knowing that 2 out of those 3 hate our guts! So from that perspective, after thinking grand like that, the final 4 in terms of 'names' does seem a little underwhelming. But as someone mentioned earlier, it's time someone made a name for themselves now at RFC (This applies to the playing list even more but that's another thread). Wallace wanted to revive the roar of the outer at the 'G but didn't want to do the hard yards. We NEED a no name who doesn't need to finish 9th to uphold their own reputation. Top ups aren't going to be used to save face. A 'no name' is the way to go for mine, and is the only reason I've narrowed it down personally to Hinkley or Richardson.

[crannyvegas]

In all seriousness are you guys happy with the final 4 candidates? Im underwhelmed by the names to be honest and I have serious doubts that any of the 4 can lift Richmond out of the massive hole in which we find ourselves.

I dont know if you have noticed this but, in recent history, great expectations haven't gotten us anywhere. I think if we could tie up Hardwick and Laidley in some capacitiy then we would have made the best of the people available to us.

Confidence in a football club makes ordinary players look good (ie Cam Mooney) so anything could happen in the next three years. and if there is no light at the end of the tunnel next year then we can always become one-eyed Gold Coast (gosh.. kidding)

Oh and for the music folk im currently listening to The Tank by a rather cool band called the Dear Hunter. quiet heavy rock with a vaudiville & orchestral twist. v-cool

[Francois Jackson]

stuff the big name just need someone with balls to stand up in front of these so called people behind the scenes at Punt Road.

Who the stuff are these power brokers that push their own agenda. Is it FACT or MYTH????

The RFC has cancer, pardon the pun but it has and it needs to get rid of it. I look at players like Dean Polo, Alex Rance, Lids and Raines.

Rance kicking has got worse, ditto Raines who smashed it in his first year. Polo remember his first game?? Lids first year was his best.

I mean these players dont go backwards for a reason. What do we do to these players?? Seriously??

the club has cancer and the problem is right in development.

[bojangles17]

In all seriousness are you guys happy with the final 4 candidates? Im underwhelmed by the names to be honest and I have serious doubts that any of the 4 can lift Richmond out of the massive hole in which we find ourselves.

As you know Ramps I have my preference out of the final 4 and I've always had an open mind about Richardson

But as for the other 2....  well the bridesmaid I've had question marks on him all along and Hinkley doesn't grab my attention either. Having just read Mark Thompson's comments about him being a practical joker etc the alarm bells are ringing over him too now 



 

gee, am glad you're not involved on the panel WP..First criteria, nil sense of humour ....crazy...I get the drift that you are a supporter of Rawlo...I liked him early on however it's become clear that his inexperience will hinder our progress...in reality what he has got to draw on in approaching 2010 pre season...the world according to Rawlo and thats it...Id be happy with any of richo/hinkley/hardwick in that order...they have had the recent involvement with successful outfits to bring a piece of it top Punt rd...rawlo has zilch and that will be a millstone he needs to wear until he can gain expereince elsewhere

[Infamy]

In all seriousness are you guys happy with the final 4 candidates? Im underwhelmed by the names to be honest and I have serious doubts that any of the 4 can lift Richmond out of the massive hole in which we find ourselves.

Without a doubt, my preferred candidates before the process even started were Hardwick & Hinkley, Richardson wasn't far behind those two, maybe around 4th preference. Malthouse was the only present day senior coach I was interested in, but never believed he'd leave Collingwood. In fact I kinda hoped Mick had more pride than he did to put up with the Buckley succession plan and would walk, but I knew deep down he'd bend over and take it.

[Mr Magic]

10,000? When?

This year, next or the year after?

Whoever is the coach won't be able to turn this pooheap around quickly so taper your expectations.

We are going to need to be patient so strap yourself in for a couple more hard years, pay your membership and hope to hell that the next guy has a genuine long term plan for success.

[Go Richo 12]

10,000? When?

This year, next or the year after?

Whoever is the coach won't be able to turn this pooheap around quickly so taper your expectations.

We are going to need to be patient so strap yourself in for a couple more hard years, pay your membership and hope to hell that the next guy has a genuine long term plan for success.

I agree Mr.M.! Whoever doesnt sign up purely due to the fact that they don't agree with the coaching appointment shouldn't have supporters anyway! Sounds to me as though some people may be looking for an excuse to drop off already!

[WilliamPowell]

gee, am glad you're not involved on the panel WP..First criteria, nil sense of humour ....crazy...I get the drift that you are a supporter of Rawlo...I liked him early on however it's become clear that his inexperience will hinder our progress...in reality what he has got to draw on in approaching 2010 pre season...the world according to Rawlo and thats it...Id be happy with any of richo/hinkley/hardwick in that order...they have had the recent involvement with successful outfits to bring a piece of it top Punt rd...rawlo has zilch and that will be a millstone he needs to wear until he can gain expereince elsewhere

Actually BJ17 - I have a great sense of humour  but everyone keeps telling me that we need a tough nut so hearing that one of the "favourites" is a practical joker worries me a little ..... there are enough jokes down at Punt Road I would have thought ..... I appreciate there needs to be some fun ... perhaps it is just the way bomber Thompson siad it who knows...

I will repeat again I want the absolute best person for the club whoever this bloody process deems it to be I'll support them

If the process says Rawlings is the best then he gets my support.  I am just offering my opinion based on what I am seeing, and what I am seeing is someone not making any impact.  Being caretaker coach was always going to be a double-edged sword for Rawlings and I haven't seen enough positives that say "I'm ready".  I think he will be a good coach somewhere one day but after the past month or so I don't believe the time is right at Richmond at present.

Thanks  smokey for a really great response... I found the above comment interesting. Am I right in my understanding of what you written that you have seen some impact (say up until the Essendon game) but none since (ie the last 3 weeks) or have I miss interepeted that and you believe there's been no impact at all?

[Smokey]

Thanks  smokey for a really great response... I found the above comment interesting. Am I right in my understanding of what you written that you have seen some impact (say up until the Essendon game) but none since (ie the last 3 weeks) or have I miss interepeted that and you believe there's been no impact at all?

I haven't seen an impact that can be identified as anything more than an (expected) emotive response in his first few games.  These last few weeks we seem to have gone right back to the lack of intensity, lack of purpose, lack of teamwork that characterized the final months of Wallace's reign so I believe all we saw for a few weeks under Rawlings was emotion and little or no substance.  I think if Rawlings was to be 'our man' in this current situation then we had a right to expect some change - not necessarily win any more games but certainly play with more purpose and do (or at least try) the team-oriented things.  As I said, this is only my opinion based on observations of our playing style - I have no connection to any inner sanctums and there may be underlying reasons that the board are aware of to explain all this.  And if Rawlings is the best our process can come up with then he gets my unqualified support.  But I think he is now well and truly behind the eight ball.

[Francois Jackson]

Thanks  smokey for a really great response... I found the above comment interesting. Am I right in my understanding of what you written that you have seen some impact (say up until the Essendon game) but none since (ie the last 3 weeks) or have I miss interepeted that and you believe there's been no impact at all?

I haven't seen an impact that can be identified as anything more than an (expected) emotive response in his first few games.  These last few weeks we seem to have gone right back to the lack of intensity, lack of purpose, lack of teamwork that characterized the final months of Wallace's reign so I believe all we saw for a few weeks under Rawlings was emotion and little or no substance.  I think if Rawlings was to be 'our man' in this current situation then we had a right to expect some change - not necessarily win any more games but certainly play with more purpose and do (or at least try) the team-oriented things.  As I said, this is only my opinion based on observations of our playing style - I have no connection to any inner sanctums and there may be underlying reasons that the board are aware of to explain all this.  And if Rawlings is the best our process can come up with then he gets my unqualified support.  But I think he is now well and truly behind the eight ball.

good call.

our players still dont block, tackle and shepherd for one another.

under Rawlings i am yet to see our tackle count improve substantially even in the games we won.

Jade's stats are very similar to that of Terry when he was coach.

The games we won is as a result of players playing for their future not because of Jade

IMO these are the stats which show players are playing for their coach & each other not a few cheap wins against the Demons and Eagles

[Tigermonk]

Thanks  smokey for a really great response... I found the above comment interesting. Am I right in my understanding of what you written that you have seen some impact (say up until the Essendon game) but none since (ie the last 3 weeks) or have I miss interepeted that and you believe there's been no impact at all?

I haven't seen an impact that can be identified as anything more than an (expected) emotive response in his first few games.  These last few weeks we seem to have gone right back to the lack of intensity, lack of purpose, lack of teamwork that characterized the final months of Wallace's reign so I believe all we saw for a few weeks under Rawlings was emotion and little or no substance.  I think if Rawlings was to be 'our man' in this current situation then we had a right to expect some change - not necessarily win any more games but certainly play with more purpose and do (or at least try) the team-oriented things.  As I said, this is only my opinion based on observations of our playing style - I have no connection to any inner sanctums and there may be underlying reasons that the board are aware of to explain all this.  And if Rawlings is the best our process can come up with then he gets my unqualified support.  But I think he is now well and truly behind the eight ball.

good call.

our players still dont block, tackle and shepherd for one another.

under Rawlings i am yet to see our tackle count improve substantially even in the games we won.

Jade's stats are very similar to that of Terry when he was coach.

The games we won is as a result of players playing for their future not because of Jade

IMO these are the stats which show players are playing for their coach & each other not a few cheap wins against the Demons and Eagles

the games we won was due to other teams breaking down & having alot of injured players, we won or drew nothing, other clubs lost games & still nearly took them away from us
we are worse than St-Kilda back in the 70's & 80's

Developement they have no idea. Its never been there & still aint there, They dont train half as hard as other clubs & dont think for themselves nor do they push themselves.
Richmond problems is that the players think just because they have made it to the AFL that they dont have to think & put the hard work in anymore.
They are satified that they have made it to the elite level & dropped off the workrate. They are mentaly weak & until they are pushed hard & mentaly challenged, they wont improve

[gtig]

Thanks  smokey for a really great response... I found the above comment interesting. Am I right in my understanding of what you written that you have seen some impact (say up until the Essendon game) but none since (ie the last 3 weeks) or have I miss interepeted that and you believe there's been no impact at all?

I haven't seen an impact that can be identified as anything more than an (expected) emotive response in his first few games.  These last few weeks we seem to have gone right back to the lack of intensity, lack of purpose, lack of teamwork that characterized the final months of Wallace's reign so I believe all we saw for a few weeks under Rawlings was emotion and little or no substance.  I think if Rawlings was to be 'our man' in this current situation then we had a right to expect some change - not necessarily win any more games but certainly play with more purpose and do (or at least try) the team-oriented things.  As I said, this is only my opinion based on observations of our playing style - I have no connection to any inner sanctums and there may be underlying reasons that the board are aware of to explain all this.  And if Rawlings is the best our process can come up with then he gets my unqualified support.  But I think he is now well and truly behind the eight ball.

I think that's right. Whatever effect Rawlings' changes have had upon the side have now been completely overwhelmed by the same elusive rfc lurgy that caused (e.g.,) our round 1 capitulation.

[wayne again]

stuff the big name just need someone with balls to stand up in front of these so called people behind the scenes at Punt Road.

Who the eff are these power brokers that push their own agenda. Is it FACT or MYTH????

The RFC has cancer, pardon the pun but it has and it needs to get rid of it. I look at players like Dean Polo, Alex Rance, Lids and Raines.

Rance kicking has got worse, ditto Raines who smashed it in his first year. Polo remember his first game?? Lids first year was his best.

I mean these players dont go backwards for a reason. What do we do to these players?? Seriously??

the club has cancer and the problem is right in development.

Agree 100 %.
 20 + years of failure is not due just the senior coach and players only. No matter what coach we get they can not fix the problem alone, i hope they bring alot of help with them.