Richmond coaching race down to 2 - Hardwick and Hinkley [confirmed]

[tigersalive]

Sheeds seemed to build a great winning culture at Essendon yet he was unwanted. Could have done a very good 2-3 year stint for us IMHO. A modern day Len Smith.

Yeah, and the last time he managed that was 10 years ago.

The 00s were very much failure for Sheeds.

[Rodgerramjet]

Jackstar, if we pick Richardson, you are going to have a feild day for the next three years on this board, you will be in your element in laying bare the incompetence of our process and those that constituted it. Employing Richardson will be a disaster, he has NO track record of developing youngsters and he definetly has NO track record of doing it with any players affiliated with our club. No body has for 30 years, were the hell are they? We need a tough uncompromising bastard to take charge and god he might not even make it.

Hardwick or Hinkley is what we need IF we are going for youth.

I don't care if Hadwick is a idiot, an hole, a wanker, a prick or even a stuffing martian. As long as he is an uncompromising hardarsed bastard, wanker I will be happy because he will give us half a chance which is a better chance than we have had for 30 years.

[Infamy]

Rodger, what do you mean Richardson has no track record of developing youngsters?
That's his greatest strength

[Judge Roughneck]

I would be content with Hinkley.

Do not know much about Richardson but he has a good name so he would also do.

Hardwick I will be sick. I like Rawlings but after that abortion on the weekend he has no chance.

So you think Hardwick is a wanker so don't want him, but you think Richardson has a good name so you'd be happy with him?

My god am I glad you don't get a vote

I do not want Hardwick based on

i - disliking his club
ii - disliking him as a player

would prefer almost anyone else.

So nothing to do with his coaching ability then? 
Given I hate all 15 other clubs and their players, that would leave very few candidates if we were ruling them out on that basis.

The fact we have to face is that most of the other clubs have been doing it better than we have for quarter of a century, so we need to get someone who knows success in to fix the joint.

I very much doubt Hardwick has coaching abity.

Why was he overlooked 3 times already

[Rodgerramjet]

Rodger, what do you mean Richardson has no track record of developing youngsters?
That's his greatest strength

He doesn't, I can see that there is this "perception" that he does have this supposed "strength" but he has no results. Who are these great youngsters that he has developed? It's an illusion, it's based on heresay. there is no results.

[Infamy]

You mean the Collingwood Youth Academy he developed?
or the work he's done with Essendon's youngsters?
Yeah, crap track record there
The worst thing was when he was coaching at Coburg he was starting to build the youth academy idea here until he was poached/pushed out

[Rodgerramjet]

You mean the Collingwood Youth Academy he developed?
or the work he's done with Essendon's youngsters?
Yeah, crap track record there
The worst thing was when he was coaching at Coburg he was starting to build the youth academy idea here until he was poached/pushed out

No results infamy, Frawley could have put the youth academy together its an administrative function.

Whats Essendon done? Nothing. He has no products, its all "what ifs", "could have beens" and "looks like it could be".

[tigersalive]

You mean the Collingwood Youth Academy he developed?
or the work he's done with Essendon's youngsters?
Yeah, crap track record there
The worst thing was when he was coaching at Coburg he was starting to build the youth academy idea here until he was poached/pushed out

No results infamy, Frawley could have put the youth academy together its an administrative function.

Whats Essendon done? Nothing. He has no products, its all "what ifs", "could have beens" and "looks like it could be".

Talk about marking hard.  And blindly.

I think Richardson went to Essendon just last year, so he's had under 12 months developing kids at a place that was seen as certainties for bottom 4.  They're 8th right now.

I'd also like to hear all about your knowledge of the youth academy of you regard it as simply an "administrative function."

He also, due to developing the youth academy, had a hand in developing Collingwood's youth into the base of what we see today, which is a top 4 side from a group of players who probably shouldn't be.

Sure you can say I'm "looks like it could be"-ing but explain to me how else we can interpret it, unless we employ a purely cynical approach like yourself?

Hinkley has been involved in a highly successful club for 3 years.  Is that in any way due to him?  "Looks like it could be".

Hardwick has hard success follow him. "what if" its just luck.

And round and round in circles we could go.

[Rodgerramjet]

Sometimes you have to open your eyes and have a look at what is really there not what you want or are hoping to see.

[gtig]

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I think Richardson went to Essendon just last year, so he's had under 12 months developing kids at a place that was seen as certainties for bottom 4.  They're 8th right now.

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This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?

[Smokey]

This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?

For the huge promotion.  Development Coach to Senior Coach.  Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity.  That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person.  They are all ambitious creatures by nature.

[the_boy_jake]

For the huge promotion.  Development Coach to Senior Coach.  Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity.  That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person.  They are all ambitious creatures by nature.

Spot on smokey.

[gtig]

This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?

For the huge promotion.  Development Coach to Senior Coach.  Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity.  That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person.  They are all ambitious creatures by nature.

sure, why wouldn't you apply.
i guess what i really mean is perhaps he needs more time where he is now before anyone can really make a call on whether he is being effective in the role.

[FooffooValve]

before development needs to come hard nosed decision making and embarking on changing club culture to rid the place of the cancer that exists. All the development in the world wont help us if the club cant come together and go in the same direction, united and focussed on ultimate success.

Glad to see you've finally come around. 

[tigersalive]

This is why I don't rate Richardson. Why would he be leaving Essendon so soon? Does he think his work there is done?

For the huge promotion.  Development Coach to Senior Coach.  Anyone with senior coaching ambitions would grasp a suitable opportunity and he obviously thinks Richmond is a suitable opportunity.  That's why you never hear a senior coach talk down the ambitions of his assistants, even though it means potentially losing a good person.  They are all ambitious creatures by nature.

sure, why wouldn't you apply.
i guess what i really mean is perhaps he needs more time where he is now before anyone can really make a call on whether he is being effective in the role.

You do realise he did the same role at Collingwood with good results and prior to that proved he can be a senior coach by leading a club to a couple of Premierships?

Regardless, the six hours of interviews aren't for poos and giggles.  Whatever decision the RFC makes will be for reasons far over yours and my head and because of how he fits the role because of all those aspects AND more of what he can deliver. 

Just let the club do their job, since it's actually a solid process for a change.