Where did Terry go wrong?!

[Stripes]

It can be argued (and has been continuously on this forum) that TW had his strengths - he was indisputably a great salesman and kept the media wolves at bay for a long time while he attempted to rebuild the list. Many believe he could be a good game day tactician and tried to be innovative.....but he also had many weaknesses which are haunting us at present.

So learning from the mistakes of the past what 3 qualities do you believe we need most in our new coach or more simply put what are the 3 things you think is most important for us to turn our list around?

Stripes

[tigersalive]

Development of individuals skills, confidence and footy-smarts
Leadership, confidence and vision
Team first mentality

[Francois Jackson]

you left out the most important option.

Other: (All of the Above) Votes 1. Daniel

Wallets biggest problems were

Hardness
Development
Recruiting(Old and Young)

you got to be joking "great game day tactician" you must be talking about the basketball game were you?

At buldogs perhaps he was but not at Punt Road. His record speaks for itself and IMO was the worst coach we have had since the 80's

thats why i never want jade as coach. first thing he did when he experienced a loss was revert back to the culture topic.

we dont need anyone telling us the obvious and looking in the past, we want want someone who can tell us how he is going to fix our problems

[Jackstar is back]

It will take me 12 months to explain.
Will say this though, the players had trouble understanding what was required of each them.
The players lost respect for him back in the latter part of 2006

[Chuck17]

To my mind and with eagle eye hindsight, TW went wrong in two main areas

1. Didn't cull deep or hard enough when he started
2. Too many recycled players swapped for draft picks did not work out

The other thing I also made a point of was that players were able to put themselves in front of a team oriented approach.  The good thing moving forward is just about all of these players will be retired/delisted this year.  A new coach will have the opportunity to bring a new team oriented focus into the Tigers game plan, whether he will be able to protect his job long enough while the necessary pain has to be gone through is another matter.

[Chuck17]

The players lost respect for him back in the latter part of 2006

Maybe a few did, but from a team point of view the 2008 performance would not back up that comment

[Stripes]

My opinion of him was TW didn't spend the required time teaching the group individually and collectively. He failed to expend the effort to work with players to build their game smarts, individual skills and most importantly - confidence. His coaching style mimicked his own style of play which won him the name 'Plough' - get the contested ball, spread, run and carry but what he failed to teach was the defensive side of the game which was reflected in our tackle count each week.

I think TW could be clever tactically particularly if he had a challenge such as beating Adelaide's flood or Hawthorn's Zone but you are correct he never spent the time teaching individual players what they needed to do to beat their direct opponents. His tactics were too involved and overly complicated and varied too much given the opposition or given week. I think if he had forgotten what other clubs were doing and found a team orientated mix of defense and run and carry style that suited the list we would have been much more successful under him.

Whatever coach we get next needs to spend more time with the group, understanding the group and working directly with the group rather than speaking to the media and watching what other coaches and clubs are doing.

Stripes

[Chuck17]

My opinion of him was TW didn't spend the required time teaching the group individually and collectively. He failed to expend the effort to work with players to build their game smarts, individual skills and most importantly - confidence.

Would this opinion be based on actual knowledge or specualtion.

[wayne]

The players lost respect for him back in the latter part of 2006

Maybe a few did, but from a team point of view the 2008 performance would not back up that comment

I thought he changed the game plan in the second half of the year (one on one)??

[wayne]

He also thought that one draft (2004) was going to fix all our problems, when pretty much every year you need to draft at least 5-6 kids, rookie list NOT included.

2005 draft was a shocker, 2006 ok, 2007 we got Cotch but still not enough kids and 2008 we traded away picks again and picked up recycled players. 

[Stripes]

My opinion of him was TW didn't spend the required time teaching the group individually and collectively. He failed to expend the effort to work with players to build their game smarts, individual skills and most importantly - confidence.

Would this opinion be based on actual knowledge or specualtion.

Just an opinion Chuck based on the development of some of our key talent and the call by the club during the later stages to cull his time infront of the cameras and instead spend it coaching the list. One thing that is blatantly obvious to me Chuck is the lack of confidence some of our players have had in themselves and how even within the short amount of time he has been gone, the improvement some players have already made. Just an outsiders view though in the end.

Stripes

[Chuck17]

Thats Cool Stripes. 

I dont want to sound like a TW apologist as no one is that dumb but I have doubts over our list and whether a large bulk of our players are up to AFL standard.  Regardless of who and what was done with them I am unsure if the results would have been any better under any coach whether it be TW or JC.

However as you have said some players have started to come good since TW's departure with Edwards being the main example.

With a new coach and an extremely young side the opportunity will be there for the coach without too much old baggage in the list floating around.

[Infamy]

Demands hardness and fire from the playing group
Match Tactics, Strategy & Game Style
Team first mentality
These are the ones I went for

Leadership, confidence and vision
This would have been my 4th choice, but I think this would come by default if you get the top 3 right in the first place

Empathy, understanding and mutual respect with the list
Development of individuals skills, confidence and footy-smarts
Innovatiion and creativity
Important, but not the most important. Many aspects in this area can be delegated to others in the matchday committee

Promotion, media savy, attracting membership & sponsors
Purely a bonus, if the coach is winning he could be a grumpy old bastard like Mick Malthouse and no one would care

[F0551L]

would of thought leadership confidence and vision would start further up the food chain than the coach     a good topic and poll look forward to reading the posts

[Jackstar is back]

you left out the most important option.

Other: (All of the Above) Votes 1. Daniel

Wallets biggest problems were

Hardness
Development
Recruiting(Old and Young)

you got to be joking "great game day tactician" you must be talking about the basketball game were you?

At buldogs perhaps he was but not at Punt Road. His record speaks for itself and IMO was the worst coach we have had since the 80's

thats why i never want jade as coach. first thing he did when he experienced a loss was revert back to the culture topic.

we dont need anyone telling us the obvious and looking in the past, we want want someone who can tell us how he is going to fix our problems

Trust me Daniel, his tactics were very hard to understand, by all