What's your preference - Hardwick or Hinkley?

[Moi]

Rumour going around that Hardwick will be ruthless in regards to list management ans said as much as 2nd interview.
This takes him to the top of the tree for me.
I love Richo like a god but it's time to let go people !!  A broom needs to go through the place in one gigantic surge and if Harwick is willing to do this, he gets my vote.

You're easily swayed.
The problem isn't getting rid of people -that's easily done.  The hard part is who is he going to replace them with.
That I'd like to hear what he's going to do and how he will do it.
And what guarantees he'll be any better than the last coach and the coach before etc
That's our problem as I see it.

[Infamy]

I must admit at the start of the process I was leaning towards Hardwick first, lately I've leaned more towards Hinkley, quite strongly too.
Regardless of the coach I'm pretty confident we'll delist/trade 9-10 players at the end of the year, I don't think any more is a good idea, it throws the list balance out too much. I also don't think we can afford to cut all six 30+ year olds for TPP reasons.

Mick Malthouse cleaned out the majority of the list over three years when he arrived at Collingwood, 10 the first year then 8 each of the next two years, I see us doing something similar. You also never know how some of the younger players may perform under a new coach. Just look at the turn around in Edwards form under Rawlings compared to earlier this year. Even King is playing much better football as a tagger under Rawlings. Get someone the level of Hardwick or Hinkley and who knows what we'll get out of these kids. No one rated the Hawthorn youngters already on their list when Clarkson arrived, but the bulk of them are the players that won Hawthorn the flag last year. Our kids were all talented juniors, so there has to be something in them to work with.

I'd also like to know who each candidate was going to bring with him as his assistants, but the public will never know that.

[Gigantor]

I dont know who to support....All i can say is that both hinkley and hardwicke,as was Allan richardson, were very good footballers in their time.Whether they make good/great coaches only time will tell.
Anyway I'm glad B Gale is sitting in on the process...Thats someone i've heard speak and seen play also,thus i respect him.

[1980]

Hardwick is a tough guy, Hinkley is a diplomat.

Hardwick will cut players, Hinkley will develop them.

Hardwick is all braun and no brains, Hinkley is all brains and no braun.

[the_boy_jake]

Hardwick is a tough guy, Hinkley is a diplomat.

Hardwick will cut players, Hinkley will develop them.

Hardwick is all braun and no brains, Hinkley is all brains and no braun.

Hyperbole and caricature.

[Ramps]

Hardwick is a tough guy, Hinkley is a diplomat.

Hardwick will cut players, Hinkley will develop them.

Hardwick is all braun and no brains, Hinkley is all brains and no braun.

rubbish and you know its rubbish  

[Jackstar is back]

why jack?
what is about it either of them that says "NO"

r

I just think that the job is extremely difficult. Many now have come and gone with little results, question I ask why would either of these 2 make any difference, sorry to be negative but there is huge issues at Punt Road that people dont seem to understand.
We currently have a President who is okaying that Richo plays on next year, thats underminding any new coach before they start isnt it.
Just in recent years, we have resigning of players on large contracts who clearly arent up to it and will be still there in 2010. Its clearly a business decision now in whether you pay them out as they cant be traded ( no other club would want them ) or keep rubbish at the club that the new coach has to work with.
I know the club have spoken to Leigh Matthews on many occassions , although he didnt want to go anywhere near Punt Rd due to the above problems and others..
Would think the other coaches who pulled out of the process, didnt want to be involved due the above either.
Why would Richmond offer Wayne Campbell the prospect of coming back to Punt Road with the prospect of being a senior coach, only for him to say, nah not for me, Forget about that he isnt ready for it, more to the fact that the problems are too big

Even if what you say has a modicum of truth, isn't it better to start this new era with a bit of confidence and optimism rather than continually trying to find the negative?

Lets turn back the clock 5 years, yep an new era with Wallace

[Infamy]

why jack?
what is about it either of them that says "NO"

r

I just think that the job is extremely difficult. Many now have come and gone with little results, question I ask why would either of these 2 make any difference, sorry to be negative but there is huge issues at Punt Road that people dont seem to understand.
We currently have a President who is okaying that Richo plays on next year, thats underminding any new coach before they start isnt it.
Just in recent years, we have resigning of players on large contracts who clearly arent up to it and will be still there in 2010. Its clearly a business decision now in whether you pay them out as they cant be traded ( no other club would want them ) or keep rubbish at the club that the new coach has to work with.
I know the club have spoken to Leigh Matthews on many occassions , although he didnt want to go anywhere near Punt Rd due to the above problems and others..
Would think the other coaches who pulled out of the process, didnt want to be involved due the above either.
Why would Richmond offer Wayne Campbell the prospect of coming back to Punt Road with the prospect of being a senior coach, only for him to say, nah not for me, Forget about that he isnt ready for it, more to the fact that the problems are too big

Even if what you say has a modicum of truth, isn't it better to start this new era with a bit of confidence and optimism rather than continually trying to find the negative?

Lets turn back the clock 5 years, yep an new era with Wallace

You should change your name to Chicken Little

[Jackstar is back]

why jack?
what is about it either of them that says "NO"

r

I just think that the job is extremely difficult. Many now have come and gone with little results, question I ask why would either of these 2 make any difference, sorry to be negative but there is huge issues at Punt Road that people dont seem to understand.
We currently have a President who is okaying that Richo plays on next year, thats underminding any new coach before they start isnt it.
Just in recent years, we have resigning of players on large contracts who clearly arent up to it and will be still there in 2010. Its clearly a business decision now in whether you pay them out as they cant be traded ( no other club would want them ) or keep rubbish at the club that the new coach has to work with.
I know the club have spoken to Leigh Matthews on many occassions , although he didnt want to go anywhere near Punt Rd due to the above problems and others..
Would think the other coaches who pulled out of the process, didnt want to be involved due the above either.
Why would Richmond offer Wayne Campbell the prospect of coming back to Punt Road with the prospect of being a senior coach, only for him to say, nah not for me, Forget about that he isnt ready for it, more to the fact that the problems are too big

Even if what you say has a modicum of truth, isn't it better to start this new era with a bit of confidence and optimism rather than continually trying to find the negative?

Lets turn back the clock 5 years, yep an new era with Wallace

You should change your name to Chicken Little

You should change you name to N.Idea.

[WilliamPowell]

Now that is down to 2, Rawlings

  - RFC's loss not giving Jade the gig but as Cuz' tatt says "such is life"

Seriously, though once this porcess is all over, I'd really like to know exactly whay type of person they skill set wise they were after.... the final 2 are the 2 safe conservative options.... which don't fit into the what I reckon we needed but having said......

Time to over ...whatever

[Rodgerramjet]

Hardwick for me. Will support Hinkley if he gets up.

[tiger till i die]

hinkley is a goose.. hardwick not bad... but like my farther said we missed them again, CAN'T Richmond get better being one of the bigger clubs in AFL??

[1980]

Hardwick is a tough guy, Hinkley is a diplomat.

Hardwick will cut players, Hinkley will develop them.

Hardwick is all braun and no brains, Hinkley is all brains and no braun.

Hyperbole and caricature.

Yet still more accurate than anything you've posted in the past 6 months

[Ox]

if this coach fails expect memberships to drop to 12,000
how long can this go on?

[the_boy_jake]

Hardwick is a tough guy, Hinkley is a diplomat.

Hardwick will cut players, Hinkley will develop them.

Hardwick is all braun and no brains, Hinkley is all brains and no braun.

Hyperbole and caricature.

Yet still more accurate than anything you've posted in the past 6 months

OK mate how about I turn over a new leaf and post more accurate stuff.

How about I start by saying you're a simpleminded fool. That is evidence based. That rubbish you posted about Hinkley and Hardwick is laughable. You simplified it all down for your little brain to be comfortable with.