2009 AFL Draft

[one-eyed]

The Australian is comparing Trengove to Hird (ie. he has no weaknesses).

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26227091-5013406,00.html

[one-eyed]

A phantom draft not so much for accuracy (the order of names if different to most others) but mainly to put names out there for discussion .....

Full mock draft here:
http://www.allfooty.info/2009/10/2009-afl-phantom-draft-4-rounds-picks-1.html


1. Melbourne - Tom Scully - Midfielder. 182cm, 74kg
2. Melbourne - Jack Trengove - Midfielder. 185cm, 82kg

3. Richmond - Ben Cunnington - Midfielder. 186cm, 84kg
Richmond need a lot of everything, so this pick in the draft could be one of around ten players and Richmond fans could be surprised. They have Deledio and Cotchin, and the third midfield musketeer could be Cunnington. Ben Cunnington is probably the total package, he can be used in the midfield and can win the ball with his hard work or he can be played in other spots where he can play taller than his size, so in marking contests against other onballers he can dominate. A bit like Luke Hodge, he could be sent forward to try to get a goal or play as a loose defender at times. If the new coach is happy with a forward line foundation of Vickery, J Riewoldt and M Morton to build around then they won't pick Butcher, but he has to be a chance to go here especially if they see Vickery as their future number 1 ruckman. If the Tigers decide to look to Western Australia, to build a midfield of Deledio, Morabito, Cotchin then they could form Run-DMC.

4. Fremantle - Kane Lucas - Midfielder. 188cm, 79kg
5. North Melb - Dustin Martin - Midfielder. 187cm, 86kg
6. Sydney - John Butcher - Tall Forward. 197cm, 84kg
7. West Coast - Anthony Morabito - Midfielder. 190cm, 90kg
8. Port Adelaide - Matthew Panos - Tall Forward. 192cm, 85kg
9. Port Adelaide - Luke Tapscott - Midfielder. 180cm, 86kg
10. Essendon - Gary Rohan - Midfielder/Small Forward. 186cm, 79kg
11. Melbourne - Jack Fitzpatrick - Ruckman/Tall Forward. 201cm, 85kg
12. Carlton - Daniel Talia - Tall Forward/Defender. 194cm, 89kg
13. Adelaide - Jake Carlisle - Tall Forward/Defender. 196cm, 83kg
14. Sydney - Koby Stevens - Midfielder. 187cm, 83kg
15. Bulldogs - Jake Melksham - Midfielder. 182cm, 69kg
16. Port Adel - Mitchell Duncan - Medium Forward/Midfielder. 188cm, 81kg
17. Geelong - Jesse W Smith - Medium Defender/Midfielder. 191cm, 83kg
18. Melbourne - David Astbury - Tall Forward/Defender. 193cm, 79kg

19. Richmond - Jordan Gysberts - Midfielder. 188cm, 83kg
Richmond can get a versatile player like Gysberts and he could be very useful as they fill the various holes in their team. Probably some size for the midfield, in an outside role, and also a candidate to go forward or back.

35. Richmond - Dylan McNeil - Midfielder/Small Forward. 178cm, 75kg
As the new Richmond coach looks to reshape the Richmond list, he may look for players that show more leadership and hustle than other prospects and maybe McNeil is that type of player.

44. Richmond - Sam Reid - Tall Defender. 192cm, 84kg
So far in this mock draft, the Tigers have added a variety of onballers and go taller with this selection. Taller and more athletic than many of Richmond's current defenders, S Reid could be very useful for Richmond in a couple of years.

51. Richmond - Mark Hutchings - Midfielder. 180cm, 82kg
Someone who may be able to make the Richmond midfield a bit tougher, which could be needed as Coughlan was delisted and S Tuck isn't in their future plans.

http://www.allfooty.info/2009/10/2009-afl-phantom-draft-4-rounds-picks-1.html

[TigerLand]

Gysberts will no way jump out to 19..

Would have a stupidly big night on the turps if we get Martin and Gysberts lol.

[one-eyed]

Emma Quayle Talks All Things Drafts

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/blog.php?b=783

She has Martin going to Richmond.

She also says due to uneven distribution of drafts picks amongst the clubs ater trade week that we may be one club that may select a player earlier than he is expected to go at (presumably with our pick 19). We did the same thing last year with Postie at pick 26.

[Judge Roughneck]

Emma Quayle Talks All Things Drafts

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/blog.php?b=783

She has Martin going to Richmond.

She also says due to uneven distribution of drafts picks amongst the clubs ater trade week that we may be one club that may select a player earlier than he is expected to go at (presumably with our pick 19). We did the same thing last year with Postie at pick 26.

I hope not.

Would like to get a player who is rated in the top 10 or so that slides.

Like Rance.

[Infamy]

She could be referring to someone like Griffiths there, rated very highly by some, rated a late 2nd-3rd rounder by others
His injury affected season is what makes him hard to judge

[one-eyed]

Richmond spoke to Melksham at the draft camp

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86326/default.aspx

[Ramps]

Im hoping someone like Brad Sheppard slides but cant see it happening.

[one-eyed]

Nothing surprising but Emma Quayle has the top 5 as ....

Scully, Trengove, Martin, Morabita, Cunnington @ 5, with Rohan and Butcher still in the mix

& still thinks Dees should call Scully first. no1 pick gets some $$ and I figure he's carried the burden all year

Think I have 1-5 sorted, will start figuring the rest out next week!!

http://twitter.com/emmasq

[one-eyed]

A guy on BF called 'Snoop Dog' does a mock draft each year which is usually a good read on each kid available. Here's his latest effort:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=647838

Not rapt with his mid-range choices for us (too small) but he has Sheppard still around at our pick 19 Ramps.


3. Dustin Martin - Bendigo Pioneers / 187cm / 86kg
Probably the worst kept secret that the Tigers are heavily committed to this kid. Why wouldn’t they be. In years to come this bloke is going to be the ball winner that releases Delidio and Cotchin into open space. Very courageous player who will often take your breath away when seeing the positions he puts his body in. I really like him at the contest and seems to keep his feet when in traffic. Very well skilled on both sides of his body and always seems to make the right decision which suggests his composure is very good and tends to come in handy if he can continue to be a player that takes you into the fwd 50. It was interesting to note that the kicking assessment developed for the Draft Camp had him excelling in which is pretty impressive. In simple terms he is a good guy to be having in possession of the footy.

Others they may look at: I think everyone is pretty certain its Martin but Morabito or Butcher would be the back ups here.

19. Allen Christensen - Geelong Falcons / 175cm / 72kg
Allen is an interesting one. Highly talented but I guess I have just been missing his best games. I also have some reservations about players of his height being taken so early, but the reality is this bloke is good and the good judges have him up there. Can play mid and fwd and is really good around the contest. Gets a heap of footy including winning his own ball and can play outside and provide burst. Good lateral movement and awareness and skills are very good – but not elite IMO. The aim will be get him in the midfield but I worry his height will preclude him from doing that (do people notice Sam Mitchell is not 6ft?). Not to worry a HF Flank or pocket will be enough to see this bloke as handy selection at #19 where his hunger, creativity and lead up will ensure he is a handful for defenders.

Others they may look at: I think there is a chance he could fall to 30-40 and if that happened then a Sheppard appeals here as a type Hardwick will love. Notwithstanding they have Vickery I think Vardy and Fitzpatrick would come into contention if the other talls are all gone.

35. Andrew Hooper - North Ballarat / 172cm / 78kg
Every year there is a bloke like Hooper. Dean Kelly ghosts for me are revisted but Hooper is different. Whilst its highly unlikely blokes of his stature get picked up this early (if at all) I think Andrew is very likely to go around here. Everything he does on a footy field says he is a chance to be very successful at senior level. Very very hard at the pill, wins a heap of contested footy, runs hard all day and has really neat finishing skills with a reasonably penetrating kick. One of the things that makes him distinctive is his sprints though. He is incredibly quick off the mark and would therefore present as a terrific Back pocket / roving type to man the elite smalls running around for many teams at the moment. I really believe this guy is in the Sam Mitchell mould and a club would do well to give him a go.

Others that might be considered here: Sumner would be good for them and give them some run they lack at the moment. Tom Hill, McDonald, Temel might be a fwd options they would look at here and hope someone like Hooper was here later.


44. Sam Reid / Murray Bushrangers / 192cm / 84kg
Another that went to DC who surprised me a little bit. Will be interested in what others think but clearly clubs are excited about the potential. Brother of Ben at Collingwood and much like Ben has a bit of filling out to do. Has played all over the place to date and even had a run in the ruck but think he will ultimately settle as a running defender / wingman. Played in the champs but didn’t really do a lot but has a red hot go below his knees which is attractive. Got good speed, runs all day and could probably play on a variety of types given he is pretty athletic. I liken him a little to Tyson Goldsack – I think Sam will become that type of player.

Others that might be considered here: Hill is the obvious choice but I think some good talls are left that they can hook into. Winmar would in the mix here as well. Talented fwd who the Tigers need one of. Not sure he is a Hardwick type though. Silverlock might be an option.


51. Zach Ledin - Geelong Falcons / 181cm / 78kg
Over age player who went around again for the Falcons after injury last year meant we didn’t see his best. Well 09 was a different story. Absolutely dominated at times for the Falcons and racked up some pretty impressive disposal stats through the year. I actually think Zach might go a bit higher than this and wouldn’t be at all surprised if his name was called at 30 or later. Plays through the midfield where he is a good height and has terrific running stamina. Plays inside and out but I like him as a bit more of an outside player where he can use his skills. In saying that he can win his own ball. He would be one that could be ready to go a bit sooner. Another I would love to see in black and white.

Others that might be considered here: A running HBF type like Menzel or Wanganeen who oozes class would be ideal for the Tiges right here. Grimes would be another though plays taller.


67. Josh Donaldson - West Perth / 194cm / 85kg
Versatile tall who represented WA at champs and can play a variety of positions. Mainly played as a back up ruck at the champs but at 193cm will be recruited to play back. I think his best chance at AFL level is to become a FB or CHB where he has also spent some time. Got good athletic credentials, good pace for a big fella and a big leap on him. Can also take a contested grab and kick a goal so will be interesting to see how he develops.

Others that might be considered here: They need some talls whoever is around and tall would be on the radar; Thompson, McDonald, Temel, Groenewegen would all be chances.

72. Luke McDonald  - Eastern Ranges / 196cm / 90kg
Gone with McDonald who is an over age player who dominated at FF this year for the Ranges and ended winning the goal kicking for the TAC. Tigers really need to develop someone like this. That never seems to be a reason for these blokes to go high and unfortunately I don’t think Luke will be any different. Got a massive set of hands on him and takes a contested grab but I worry a bit about his pace and agility when he comes up against the bigger mature bodies. Still has a wonderful boot on him and his conversion rate is high. Worthy of the Tigers taking a punt and adding to a list of taller youngsters.

Others that might be considered here: Like Carlton will be looking for some taller kids so McDonald makes sense or a Temel if here. Lawton and Sam Shaw are potentially others.

Full mock draft at:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=647838

[Penelope]

A name that caught my interest as being thrown into the mix as a latter pick for Richmond is Nicholas Winmar. While viewing some of the footage of potential draftees, a couple of things he did caught my eye, particularly a couple of long kicks out of defence to find a target.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKp8HZTnHfw
(No 20)

As you'd expect for someone expected to go late, he has a couple of question marks over him, but does appear to be working to improve areas that need it.
http://www.afldraftinfo.com/2009/10/nicholas-winmar-claremontwa-draft.html
http://www.claremontfc.com.au/news/colts-winmar-s-move-to-defence-a-success

You get the impression he is the sort that could be anything, or nothing. I wouldn't be disappointed to see him taken with a later draft pick, though.

[one-eyed]

Looks like the Dees will go tall with pick 11 unless all the better KPPs surprisingly go early.


"We certainly haven't locked down the type of player we are going to pick at No. 11. We are just rating and ranking the draft. If it's comparable talent we will go to the need," Prendergast said.

"People would look at us and say it's likely to be a tall but it's all about the quality of the talls that are there."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/pick-11-proves-timely-for-dees/story-e6frf9jf-1225791860759




A reminder too how the top 10 countdown will work ......

The AFL recruiters will choose the first 10 picks in camera at 6pm, before they are announced in reverse order by the senior coaches on Foxtel at 6.30pm.

Then the draft will re-commence from selection 11 about 6.50pm.

[Ramps]

I have us looking at Ledin at 35 or 44. And if we had taken Martin & Sheppard at 3 and 19 that would mean 3 midfielders but we need players who can kick the footy, theres no point getting a player if he cant kick. Snoop dog has us going for rovers above, Rovers we can find down the track, we need key position forwards or out and out midfielders (bigger type midfielders) not rovers. Winmar at 44 or 51 is also a viable pick for us.

[one-eyed]

A Demon fan asked Emma Quayle about the first round.

This was his list:
Scully, Trengove, Martin, Morabito, Cunnington, Lucas, Jetta, Black, Tapscott, Stevens, Butcher, Talia, Rohan, Gysbert, Panos, Christensen, Carlisle?

maybe replace Gysberts with melksham too?

Emma's reply:

Allen Christensen and Matthew Panos and possibly Aaron Black bit high i think, rohan bit low. haven't heard anything re lucas/ swans yet, think butcher/rohan

melksham is top 10. Lucas may drop out.

James Craig may be in there somewhere too. Not sure he'll get picked in the 10 but he's shaping as a first rounder, maybe port @ 16

Butcher - Think 11s the furthest he could get. Its a chance. Sydney, Port, even Essendon would be looking at him, esp Port

http://twitter.com/emmasq

Emma talks with AFL club recruiters so she usually knows what is going on.

[wayne]

Notice all Melbourne fans have Butcher slipping