"We think we did a fair bit of planning last year with our forwards, we took Jayden Post (No. 26) and Ty Vickery (No.8 ) with our first and second picks," Jackson said.
"By taking them that put us in a good position with our talls. It (key position) is certainly something we will look to bolster but we are confident they (Post and Vickery) are going to be good players."
???
I believe FJ is deluding himself if he thinks we are in a good position with our talls. Forgetting about quality for the moment and just talking numbers on our list - we are about to lose Richo, Simmo, Polak, Schulz, Hughes, Silvester and Gourdis within a year. Patto and Putt may be gone as well.
That leaves ....
Def: Thursty, McGuane, Rance, Moore
For: Riewoldt, Post
Rucks: Vickery, Graham, Browne
If just 9 talls going forward with GC17 and WS hogging the next 3 drafts is classed as a good position then I'll go he.
agree very silly statement from jackson. and its worse than you say. moore is not a kp mcguane and graham are not up to afl standard and browne is a rookie who has a long long way to go.
post while taken to play kpf is more likely a kpd. vickery sheepoohought he was a ruckman what jackson is doing lumping him in as a permanent forward is bewildering.
ive done this before and will do it again. look at the structure of the majority of sides on any given game day.
it usually goes
b/ ***** genuine big bodied kpd. *****
hb/ ***** genuine big bodied kd. third tall
c/ ***** ***** *****
hf/ ****** genuine marking chf *****
f/ ***** genuine ff third tall
r/ ruckman ****** ******
int ruckman ***** ***** possibly tall running utility
yep most clubs will take 8 talls into games each week and more if you have a tall like corey who plays as a mid but structurally 8 is normally it.
in moving forward we dont have enough for decent structure it is a disgrace.
the ideal is cover for each position so you would have 6 tall defenders 4 of which are capable of playing kp and holding their own. ditto for tall forwards and 4 ruckmen. of course you will have roughly 10 at or close to afl standard the rest should be in various stages of development.
it also goes to say if you need 16 who you are reasonably sure can play at afl level and will become afl standard you will have to load up with surplus talls we all know every pick we take wont make it the fail rate for clubs is somewhere between 30 and 40 percent.
the amount of work that has to be done in this area is staggering.
having said this in no way should we waste pick 3 by targeting a tall with it who is not best available.
genuine big bodied kpd. - 18 Alex Rance 194 96
genuine big bodied kd. - 25 Troy Chaplin 195 99 23.02.86
third tall - 2 Dylan Grimes 193 88 16.07.91
genuine marking chf - 29 Ty Vickery 200 97 31.05.90
genuine ff - 8 Jack Riewoldt 195 94 31.10.88
third tall - 27 Aaron Edwards 184 93 02.03.84 / 16 Luke McGuane 192 92 12.02.87
ruckman - 20 Ivan Maric 200 102 04.01.86What are you thought on how things have panned out if we fast forward to today? Given the way the rules have changed its unusual to carry a second ruckman and a 'back up' swing man type tall. Most teams play about three talls at each end of the ground and a single ruckman, usually supported by a tall forward. Hence allowing for as many smalls and mids to be 'runners', used in midfield rotation.
In reserve we have Mcbean who will hopefully take over the troublesome third forward spot. Derickx and Orren [ruck depth], Griffiths and Elton [forward], Astbury, McIntosh and Darrou.
b/ ***** genuine big bodied kpd. *****
hb/ ***** genuine big bodied kd. third tall
c/ ***** ***** *****
hf/ ****** genuine marking chf *****
f/ ***** genuine ff third tall
r/ ruckman ****** ******
int ruckman ***** ***** possibly tall running utility
Morris. Chaplin. Vlastuin.
Houli. Rance. Grimes.
Conca. Cotchin. White.
Shane Edwards. Vickery. Ellis.
Newman. Riewoldt. McGaune/Aaron Edwards.
Maric. Deledio. Martin.
Jackson. Grigg. King.
Foley.
Dea. Astbury. Bachelor.
Petterd. McIntosh. Darrou.
Nahas. Tuck. Helbig.
Lonergan. Elton. Knights.
Ohanlon Griffiths. McBean.
Derickx. Mcdonough. Arnot.
Orren. Williams. Simon. Verrier