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Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« on: October 23, 2025, 12:12:28 AM »
Every AFL club’s 2026 list chasm

Ben Cotton, Jack Jovanovski and Will Faulkner
Fox Sports
October 22nd, 2025


RICHMOND

List chasm: Two-way midfielder

Richmond’s midfield combinations were problematic all season, with Adem Yze’s coaching staff consistently looking to inject more pace into a core mix that was generally one-paced. Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper and Dion Prestia attended the most centre bounces, and while Hopper is capable of exploding from stoppage, they all lack general speed and have the tendency to slouch in defensive transition. This year, Richmond ranked 17th for clearance differential, 17th for points from clearance differential, and 16th for contested possession differential. It shouldn’t shock anyone to say the Tigers would benefit greatly from a two-way midfielder after the club conceded the third-most goals to opposition midfielders this season. However, the longer-term future of Richmond’s engine room looks incredibly bright with Sam Lalor at the forefront, and expect dynamic livewire Taj Hotton to attend more centre bounces in year two.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2025, 07:25:13 AM »
The Elephant in the room is Nank's Ruck craft. He is a physical presence around the ground yes, but his tap work is a complete disaster and makes us second to the ball. For Richmond to improve we need another classy mid or two with speed yes, but we also need a Ruckman that can provide a hit out to advantage occasionally....

We cannot keep pretending that it's not an issue.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2025, 07:46:21 AM »
Didn’t stop us winning 3 flags nor did it stop Brisbane or Geelong winning 3 of the last 4 flags…
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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2025, 09:05:59 AM »
Didn’t stop us winning 3 flags nor did it stop Brisbane or Geelong winning 3 of the last 4 flags…

Soldo played in one of them and he did his role well. Nank was young and enthusiastic and was carried by an A+ midfield group around him.

Gawn is prob the goat.

Blicavs was a freak athletically.

McInerney pretty handy in the ruck.


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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2025, 09:26:51 AM »
Blicavs wasn’t/isn’t even Geelongs main ruck.

Big O didn’t play in last years flag and was secondary ruck this year.

We Defs need to be actively looking for Nanks successor, no doubt about that, but rucks a very overrated position especially in terms of ‘tap work’. Much more important to have a mobile ruck who can compete at ground level and get around the ground to take intercept marks in defence and chip in with some goals up forward when resting.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2025, 09:34:49 AM »
Generally agree TK but tap work does have its place. I've seen Nank actually deal with his opponent well and tap it straight to the opposition. It's excruciating.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2025, 10:30:54 AM »
Generally agree TK but tap work does have its place. I've seen Nank actually deal with his opponent well and tap it straight to the opposition. It's excruciating.



Oh like the Brisbane EF when Oscar went down in Q1?

Should have been a sliding door moment but as a captain/ruck he royally R'd that up for the rest of the game. Utterly dismal.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2025, 10:31:00 AM »
Generally agree TK but tap work does have its place. I've seen Nank actually deal with his opponent well and tap it straight to the opposition. It's excruciating.

100% would be ideal to have a ruck who is great at everything i.e. Gawn but there’s very few of those that come around. Can compensate for an avg tap ruckman with a great midfield which hopefully we’ll have sooner than later.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2025, 10:51:02 AM »
Blicavs wasn’t/isn’t even Geelongs main ruck.

Big O didn’t play in last years flag and was secondary ruck this year.

We Defs need to be actively looking for Nanks successor, no doubt about that, but rucks a very overrated position especially in terms of ‘tap work’. Much more important to have a mobile ruck who can compete at ground level and get around the ground to take intercept marks in defence and chip in with some goals up forward when resting.

McInerney played 25 games last year. He has hardly missed a game the last 8 seasons. It's pretty handy having a big guy that can at least break even.

Blicavs isn't the first ruck but being a 200 odd cm unicorn that can get you hitouts is a big part of geelongs success.

People say just trade a 3rd for a 20/22 year old nankervis but it's not always that easy. Takes some skill and a lot of luck.

Everyone would be doing it and wed already have one of the list ready to go.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2025, 11:05:31 AM »
Generally agree TK but tap work does have its place. I've seen Nank actually deal with his opponent well and tap it straight to the opposition. It's excruciating.

100% would be ideal to have a ruck who is great at everything i.e. Gawn but there’s very few of those that come around. Can compensate for an avg tap ruckman with a great midfield which hopefully we’ll have sooner than later.

Yeah but again. You need to find someone who is 6'9ish who is good enough to get to and play in a grand final.

We have seen with Naismith. Colina. Ryan And the rest of the duds it's not always that straight forward.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2025, 09:49:59 PM »
There is a list chasm but its not what they are talking about.

Our list chasm is the players between our juniors and our vets.

In 2017 we had a spread of players going from 2006 - 2016 and 15 odd of them premiership players were spread thru the 23 - 29 age bracket.

In a couple of years time we wont have a good vets all retired and the mid tier need replacing.

Our dilemma is getting what kids we have into that mid tier and continue to build. How long will it take to get 15 players basically starting from this year to some where around 100 games and then get another 8 or so around 50 games.

When we won in 2017 our side averaged 104 games for every player. The average age was 25yr 43 days . Put that in perspective in 5 yrs time baring injury Lalor will be 23 and around 100 games. The 2017 side had 4 juniors Graham 19 , Rioli 20, Castagna and Butler 21. All others fell into the 23 thru 29 age bracket.
We had 11 players with 100 plus games anothe 4 with 50 plus games and only two had less than 20 games.

The beauty is we have openly embraced a full on rebuild time is actually our friend and there are no expectations we just have to make sure we stay the course and make sure over the next 3 or 4 drafts we load up with as much young talent as possible.

Embrace youth while we can because all too soon unrealistic expectations and stupid time frames will start to raise their ugly heads.

Finally on topic Nankervis i give three years maximum we have three years to find our next premiership ruckman and atm its not one of the listed rucks we have.All currently are hail mary's.
I think the way the ruck rules are going cdt is probably a perfect fit for us although we have a similar type in Sims, i think Sims more a kpf though and the hyphen more of a very athletic ruckman first and foremost. If he is there at our picks 3 or 4 i think we will take him.

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2025, 11:14:56 AM »
Scanned through your post crawski and most of it seems to make sense - particularly the age gap between youngest and oldest. We let 4 mid agers go last year which is where the problem really started .
Assuming this will start getting addressed end of next 3 seasons.
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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2025, 03:25:12 PM »
I don’t think it’s too hard to bring in role players and free agents when you have half a dozen A graders as the base, it’s all about timing . We just have to wait a few years to see who is a A grader with experience and is match hardened, then you bring in the missing parts to the team.
We just need to be patient

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Re: Richmond's 2026 list chasm (Foxsports)
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 07:31:01 PM »
On the so called chasm the author speaks about. He is correct we need to compliment what mids we have with at least two inside out mids with real pace and v/good ball use. We need mids who can transition and hurt with ball in hand.

Imo and i know its a recurring theme with me but i think the opinion is correct, we need 4 more mids to compliment the 10 we currently have.

Bearing in mind  its not just about getting 4 mids,  its more like 7 if the likes of Dow and Sonsie are kaput and Prestia is entering his farewell season.

Taking three mids this year will enable us to tread water and slowly build the number to where we need it in coming seasons with nd picks or trades,  free agents and state league types.

So one chasm is mids and in particular inside out quick types.

Another chasm that does not show up on the list atm with pure numbers is general defenders. This is more about rating players
We have 7 of them and generally speaking if you have 7 you probably have  one or so too many.
The 7 are Broad gone end of 2026. Vlastuin maybe two or three more seasons.  Short is a liability, and so far at best Trezise and Smith are borderline on if they will make it..
It leaves Banks who has his fair share of knockers,particularly   about certain  aspects of his game  and Brown who  people also continue to  question what we actually have.
Imo a quality running hb is needed. and we can should cut at least two of the above for me that would be Short contracted i know and at this point in time Trezise or Smith. Grlj would be a decent fit for now with potential to move from hb to a mid role.

Ruckmen well right at this point in time we have one proven  and he is turning 32 next year.
Ryan reeks of a bust and surely we are not putting all our eggs into his basket and of course Hayes- Brown a real long shot  that more likely than not is a failure.
Imo A mature back up on the cheap  would be nice, at least until Ryan takes the needed steps if ever,  we  just cannot rely on Ryan at this stage.  As i said in a  previous post At pick 3 Duff-Tytler would fit us to a tee. A very athletic and quick ruckman who looks to have a nice frame so will bulk and he can go forward. Given the ruck stocks i would not be surprised in the least if we take him with one of our picks. Sort of a Jackson or Dekoning type of ruckman.

Another goal kicking general forward would be nice especially if the likes of Hotton Campbell Algar become more your mid types.
I have no faith in Rioli or Green being long term options and while for now Mansell is required i think id be looking for a bit better long term.

 kpd. numbers are okay but i would seriously be looking for a third tall type good interceptor play on smaller opponents to replace Broad or even Vlastuin.

 KPD Miller, Gibcus, Balta and Gray. Third tall Trainor = Grimes  and lets say out of the coming draft Xavier Taylor = Broad/Vlastuin.

One more.  Wing given HRS imo is barely at the level after 6 years  Clarke is under serious injury cloud again and Retschko has just got here, and Trezise is not a wingman  a mature hard running well skilled mature wingman would not go astray atm. Have voiced my opinion on Campbell and the great attributes he has for the role as one option and the intrigueing one Hunter Holmes with that athletic background and running  ability. How ironic if we got him after gifting Geelong his brother with a latish pick..

Anyway some food for thought we have several areas we need to address but as we all know we cant do it all in one or two drafts.
This off season i thought 7 or 8 new faces would be ideal, i still think that.  i doubt we are gunna do it though
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