North Melbourne well they made us look silly second time around and actually have done a lot of hard yards that we haven't. Not sure where they will finish but i expect them to finish above us.
Done the hard yards that we haven’t?
Been stuck in a rebuild for an eternity, while we have been at that for 3 mins
While we were winning flags, they were winning spoons
And their grand plan was the gift us an early draft pick while they brought in fossils like Darling and Parker because they thought they were close to push for finals.
Give me a spell.
It’s an absolute disgrace they have been at it as long as they have.
There is zero excuse for them not to rise the ladder for goodness sakes.
Yeah they have done the hard yards the last 6 years they have not risen above 16th. yep 6 whole years and its that time they have got good draft picks to a decent number of games to enable them to start rising up the ladder.
The truth is they made us look second rate this year and if playing even more kids is the go they will and should do some real jobs on us for a few years.
Staying down and just putting games into as many of the kids as possible is doing the hard yards.
Us we have just begun this year. you keep kidding yourself 2021 was the start ffs we sold our souls at the end of 2022 to get a crack at it again with Taranto and Hopper and how has that affected our draft hand?
how long will it take for us to get 10 or 12 to 100 games and add another 5 - 8 to 50 plus games or so all in the right age bracket.. its exactly that that will enable us to properly challenge.
Yep NM unlike us have got a sizable amount of their youth to the point where they could start filling gaps with mature players.And yeah to continue to fill in while some of the more recent picks mature.
Do they have all the pieces of course not. But they are way in front of us if we are talking time frames and games played yes the expectation should be they start winning more than they lose.
Do you really believe they are going to be poo forever even we turned it around after how many seasons again.
Its laughable that people think after just one good draft and all the retirements and delistings that are still to come that we won't be like NM in any way shape or form.
Like them We will be bereft of experienced players at the end of next year or the one after or close to it. The middle tier is lousy and needs mostly replacing its why we needed to rebuild in the first place not that they realised it.
its going to take us at least 5 years to get enough kids the experience they need to succeed. Yet the expectation of some is we will climb rapidly.
5 wins last year was not the norm But with us being 17th in so many areas last year id say there is every chance of us winning less games.
Are we in a better position than most clubs in key metrics no we are probably 17th.
Winning games for us over the next few years is not a key measuring stick. It has little to do with improvement and more to do with impatient supporters being unrealistic.
We are in for hard times i suggest people get used to it but enjoy the growth of our kids over the next 4 or 5 seasons.
We are no different to any other club who actually embraces a full on rebuild it takes time. Its the clubs who don't embrace proper rebuilds see us 1980 - 2016 or Carlton - 1995 - 2025 Essendon 2000 - 2025
It was not that long ago Hardwick took 7 seasons to break a 37 yr drought and he had Riewoldt, Martin, Cotchin Edwards, Rance and a few others to start with and still be young enough to be there when we challenged. We don't have that luxury last years crop is hopefully the riewoldts etc. Our age demographic covered 12 seasons yet here we are in year 1 and people think winning games is more important than anything.