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Re: SSP
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2025, 12:03:03 PM »
Not sure about a half back whose main weaknesses are kicking efficient and decision making. Sounds like someone you wouldn’t want distributing the ball out of the back half.

Dylan Alexander is also saying Burton cannot kick the ball far

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Re: SSP
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2025, 12:27:05 PM »
I like the sound of developing ruck who is athletic , can mark , can pick the ball up below his knees   and is a ruck first. We have a bit of a hole in our list in that area.
If this kid is a chance of making he is probably worth a go as you can pick up VFL ruck as a stop gap through a draft or trade without a problem.
I guess they will have a good look at him and assess if he is worth the punt.

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Re: SSP
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2025, 01:03:18 PM »
1. Nank

Hopefully a couple seasons left.

2. Sims.

3. Hayes-Brown

Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+

4. Ryan.

Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.

Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.

All that said they prob take Burton.


Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.

The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.

OHB untried at AFL level altogether.

Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.

Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.

I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.

The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.

What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?



The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.

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Re: SSP
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2025, 02:08:47 PM »
1. Nank

Hopefully a couple seasons left.

2. Sims.

3. Hayes-Brown

Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+

4. Ryan.

Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.

Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.

All that said they prob take Burton.


Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.

The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.

OHB untried at AFL level altogether.

Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.

Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.

I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.

The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.

What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?



The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.

And to accommodate this mature ruckman who would be potentially a slight upgrade on Ryan and OHB. You would overlook a promising 18 year old in a season where the entire football world has Richmond finishing bottom 2?  With the position the playing list is currently in...

Well I worry about these organisations you are hiring hundreds of people for.


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Re: SSP
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2025, 05:02:11 PM »
Hayes-Brown looks a bit slow to me
Sammy Ryan nope.

I didn’t mind Sims for a first year hit out but we’re definitely looking a bit thin on the ground for rucks - particularly if Nank goes down
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Re: SSP
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2025, 10:52:02 PM »
1. Nank

Hopefully a couple seasons left.

2. Sims.

3. Hayes-Brown

Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+

4. Ryan.

Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.

Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.

All that said they prob take Burton.


Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.

The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.

OHB untried at AFL level altogether.

Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.

Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.

I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.

The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.

What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?



The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.

And to accommodate this mature ruckman who would be potentially a slight upgrade on Ryan and OHB. You would overlook a promising 18 year old in a season where the entire football world has Richmond finishing bottom 2?  With the position the playing list is currently in...

Well I worry about these organisations you are hiring hundreds of people for.



No need to be a wanker with the snide remarks tyvm.

We just don't agree.

You think highly enough of Ryan and OHB to be confident in our stocks, yet nobody else seems to. We don't need a gun, just someone mature to fill in for Nank if required, without fielding a pack of anaemic teenagers who will get snapped in half.

As for the kid...fmd he wasn't drafted, wasn't rookied... Must be real promising.

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Re: SSP
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2025, 11:14:02 PM »
1. Nank

Hopefully a couple seasons left.

2. Sims.

3. Hayes-Brown

Getting better. 63 hit-outs one vfl game, others 40+

4. Ryan.

Obviously limited but as fine the 4th ruck for one more year.

Fawcett. Lefau break glass emergency options. I don't see the point of another stop gap ruck ahead of a kid with upside.

All that said they prob take Burton.


Nank established but ageing and gets quite beat up most years.

The idea that our #2 ruck is a teenager with 1 year under his belt and coming off surgery is concerning.

OHB untried at AFL level altogether.

Ryan with clear deficiencies and not looking promising at all.

Fawcett in the ruck?
Lefau also coming off another injury-riddled year.

I don't agree that we're set to go or that an 18yo undrafted kid is the answer for the medium term. We would definitely benefit from having a bloke aged 23-28 on the list with some proper ruck experience.

The bookmakers have Richmond finishing last.

What is the point of a 28 year old state league ruck currently?



The point is to remain competitive, try to win games, protect the kids (so Sims isn't #1 ruck if Nank goes down) and build a culture of success.

And to accommodate this mature ruckman who would be potentially a slight upgrade on Ryan and OHB. You would overlook a promising 18 year old in a season where the entire football world has Richmond finishing bottom 2?  With the position the playing list is currently in...

Well I worry about these organisations you are hiring hundreds of people for.



No need to be a wanker with the snide remarks tyvm.

We just don't agree.

You think highly enough of Ryan and OHB to be confident in our stocks, yet nobody else seems to. We don't need a gun, just someone mature to fill in for Nank if required, without fielding a pack of anaemic teenagers who will get snapped in half.

As for the kid...fmd he wasn't drafted, wasn't rookied... Must be real promising.

Well mr people and culture.

There are kids that are overlooked that are real promising. There are always picketts and stacks to be found.  Grimes and bakers.

He is an 18 year old ruck prospect. Imagine having the audaciously to doubt his ceiling when you have never seen him play.

List spots are very valuable. We are starting essentially a rebuild everything is important now.

We may not agree but one of us is prob wrong.

The Richmond tigers football club may pick a scott or someone else but so far it seems they agree. As they are the only two players invited.


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Re: SSP
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2025, 01:30:27 AM »
Matt Priddis wasn’t drafted a few times
He seemed to go ok

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Re: SSP
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2025, 12:19:11 AM »
PROFILED | 2026 preseason SSP train-ons

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RICHMOND

Thomas Burton (Western Jets)
Defender/Midfielder | 178cm | 09/01/2007

Burton was among the players deemed unlucky not to find a home in the National Draft, but remains in the mix after an esteemed junior career. The Western Jets product ticks plenty of boxes, most notably in the way of production and running given he was one of the Talent League’s most consistent performers this year. While quieter for Vic Metro, his ability to daringly break the lines as a defender is complimented by high-volume repeat efforts in midfield. He has plenty to give standards-wise, too.

Marcus Krasnadamskis (Eastern Ranges)
Ruck | 201cm | 18/06/2007

An emerging ruck who perhaps wasn’t quite ready for a shot in the National Draft, Krasnadamskis garnered plenty of interest nonetheless. He has shown a strong rate of improvement since converting from basketball, boasting a strong leap and good pace off the mark for a player his size. What’s more, he’s a great competitor who likes to impact as frequently as possible. Krasnadamskis was part of Eastern Ranges’ premiership side this year along with the region’s four first round draftees.

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2025/12/02/profiled-2026-preseason-ssp-train-ons/

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Re: SSP
« Reply #39 on: Today at 11:58:02 AM »
I think we need a mature option with 5-8 years of footy left in him who can fill the gap for nank if required.
Sims too young, Ryan too soft.


As for the names above:
- most weren't established/career basketballers
- most started AFL young
- the ones that were basketballers took multiple years to develop for AFL and most were modest at best after that

For some reason people think winning a flag makes you a good player but despite contributing in 2019 and 2020 Soldo was serviceable most of that era.

Blicavs is a freak indeed. And a steeplechaser before AFL. He also took several years to reach those heights and I tip my hat to him.
Jenkins I thought was quite decent. Took him a few years to convert.
Cox was also serviceable at best most of the time as a late convert.
Martin a very good player, started at 19 and was an established player by 22-24yo. Probably the best example.
Gawn played AFL as a kid also, no basketball career.
Goldy also played footy as a kid, no basketball career.

Agree on Soldo imo was ordinary most of the time we had him.
He went to P/A  to get a regular game and was pushed out by another battler in Sweet.

Your correct it seems the vast majority of those who come from a pure basketball background fail. Its a rookie pick and a long shot as it is so why lengthen the odds we have a cat B list for that.

As far as list goes we currently need two more  ruckmen on the list. That is if the concensus is
1/ OH-B is not ready and doesnt look likely to make it at this point in time.
2/ Ryan to this point still seriously lacks in key areas for a ruckman and also atm looks unlikely to make it.

If its a list management thing then we just cannot put all of our ruck eggs in this basket.

We have both for another year two in Ryans case. We need a mature back up atm for Nankervis and we need another actual junior ruck to develop.  It doesn't have to be both this year.

I think because we actually have two mature ruckmen in the ressies in Ryan  and OH-B we maybe need to get another kid in given where we are at with these two and Nankervis age. One more season of the same and its likely both will have to go.

Then there is next years draft there is supposedly a good crop of rucks in it. Do we wait until that draft to grab a young ruckman.

Personally i think another two or three mids and a couple of good running players for  the wings h/b is the real need.

Harry Scott is a lovely size, decent pace and  had a great season in the vfl for us. He  is only 20 or 21 ? and looks very likely. Imo the ssp and psd msd  should be where possible aimed at these youngish blokes with good exposure and performance against men.
Some absolute gems have come out of the state leagues and continues to do so.

The thing is yes we are in the early stages of rebuild but 100% of everything we do does not have to be aimed at 2030 or when ever it is we think we can challenge again. We should be targeting some mature players from here on in.
 
A small percentage can be aimed at helping our many kids develop with some more maturity around them. Lets not forget we have a reserves team and if we go heavily to the draft well for another two years as i think we need to then we are going to need some maturity coming in.
Remember by the time we start to challenge the likes of Taranto Hopper and Prestia will likely be gone Nankervis will be gone some maturity while we also continue to bring in youth is a phase we are fast approaching.