mr x how can you denigrate lids and players of this club the way that you do and have any thought that you are helping the tigers cause, personal trainers my eye , you can't have the sort of negative venomous thoughts running around in your head and still be a worthwhile positive personal trainer it just match up! I like the one about the old 3 knee constructions didn't help one bit(read I could have made it to AFL but for those damn knees). Lids needs to improve in areas of his game who doesn't , you speak like him and others aren't trying to improve themselves, if you think that then you obviously know absolutely nothing about the makeup of AFL footballers, but then again how could you. Look at lids' stats compare them against other s in afl 2 years who have been tagged all of last year and this and then see if you draw the same uneducated conclusions.