Chris Pelchen

[Moi]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

[Moi]

Some reading and he was being chased by the Bulldogs there last year.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/pelchen-tipped-for-dogs-slot/2007/11/29/1196037072983.html

Is he the the type of person who is always looking out for a better contract each year?

If we get him, we wanna tie him down so he doesn't go sniffing out better offers every year 

[jackstar]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

Your funnny ,you would of picked Franklin and Roughhead
You should take over from Wallace if your that good

[Moi]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

Your funnny ,you would of picked Franklin and Roughhead
You should take over from Wallace if your that good

You're not funny, Jack, you're the world's greatest bore 
Can't you have a discussion without mentioning Wallace every five seconds?

[richmondrules]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

Your funnny ,you would of picked Franklin and Roughhead
You should take over from Wallace if your that good

You're not funny, Jack, you're the world's greatest bore 
Can't you have a discussion without mentioning Wallace every five seconds?

Love hurts.

[tigersalive]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

But he's being football manager not recruiting manager isnt he?

We've already got our recruiting team done and dusted.

Pelchen does far more than just pick players.  Hawk supporters have always talked about his work around the club and at functions in the highest regard.

[Francois Jackson]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

Are you fair dinkum MOI. Maybe some on here are right and you have no idea about Footy.
Ellis, Rioli, Lewis, Buddy, Roughead to name 5.
those 5 will be the best in the business.

even after you type Buddy thats enough to convince me Pelchen has done a great job.
the guy is a superstar and in the mean tine we picked up duds like Meyer and Tambling.

Moi you should think before you start away.

[Moi]

Are you fair dinkum MOI. Maybe some on here are right and you have no idea about Footy.
Ellis, Rioli, Lewis, Buddy, Roughead to name 5.
those 5 will be the best in the business.
Moi you should think before you start away.

You're the idiot, Daniel.  The thread was started as a point of conversation.  You want to add something, go ahead but the idea was to ascertain how good a person he would be to have at the club.  If you read more into than that, you need help.  Well, I think you do anyway despite your reply 

[tigersalive]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

Are you fair dinkum MOI. Maybe some on here are right and you have no idea about Footy.
Ellis, Rioli, Lewis, Buddy, Roughead to name 5.
those 5 will be the best in the business.

even after you type Buddy thats enough to convince me Pelchen has done a great job.
the guy is a superstar and in the mean tine we picked up duds like Meyer and Tambling.

Moi you should think before you start away.

Ok just for clarity, I believe 2004 was Pelchen's first draft so the following are his selections with my thoughts that get more cloudy as its harder to judge players career off a season or 2. . . .

2004.
Roughie - Win
Buddy - Win
Lewis - Win
Murphy - Long road but on the improve this year.
Little - Fail
Taylor - Good Ruckman combo with Campbell

2005.
Ellis - Win
Dowler - Chopping block
Birchall - Win
Bailey - Chopping block
Muston - Slaughtered by injuries - Probably gone.
Tuck (Father-son) - Win
Guerra (PSD)  - Win

2006.
Thorp - Looking Ok, should make it.
Renouf - Big boy who got a run this year, has promise but I doubt he'll make it.
J. Morton - Played this year and looked good until the the big boys came back from injury.
J. Kennedy - Played this year and looked good until the the big boys came back from injury.
Moss - Who?

2007.

Rioli - Win
Whitecross - Hasnt made his mark yet
Dew - Clarkson's choice, been ok when not injured.


Take that how you will and what you consider a gem but from pick 10 onwards every pick has high risk, his record is pretty good.

[Ramps]

Its not just who he has recruited its

1) who he recruited
2) who he sacked
3) the fact that hawthorn continued to tank whilst we rose up with cheap wins

Pelchen is a proven winner

[Moi]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

Are you fair dinkum MOI. Maybe some on here are right and you have no idea about Footy.
Ellis, Rioli, Lewis, Buddy, Roughead to name 5.
those 5 will be the best in the business.

even after you type Buddy thats enough to convince me Pelchen has done a great job.
the guy is a superstar and in the mean tine we picked up duds like Meyer and Tambling.

Moi you should think before you start away.

Ok just for clarity, I believe 2004 was Pelchen's first draft so the following are his selections with my thoughts that get more cloudy as its harder to judge players career off a season or 2. . . .

2004.
Roughie - Win
Buddy - Win
Lewis - Win
Murphy - Long road but on the improve this year.
Little - Fail
Taylor - Good Ruckman combo with Campbell

2005.
Ellis - Win
Dowler - Chopping block
Birchall - Win
Bailey - Chopping block
Muston - Slaughtered by injuries - Probably gone.
Tuck (Father-son) - Win
Guerra (PSD)  - Win

2006.
Thorp - Looking Ok, should make it.
Renouf - Big boy who got a run this year, has promise but I doubt he'll make it.
J. Morton - Played this year and looked good until the the big boys came back from injury.
J. Kennedy - Played this year and looked good until the the big boys came back from injury.
Moss - Who?

2007.

Rioli - Win
Whitecross - Hasnt made his mark yet
Dew - Clarkson's choice, been ok when not injured.


Take that how you will and what you consider a gem but from pick 10 onwards every pick has high risk, his record is pretty good.

That's great, thanks Tigersalive  
He does look like he's worth a look at.  When I get home, I'll see where those players were taken in the draft.
Seems recruiting is his forte, even if he is good at club functions  

[Francois Jackson]

who he sacked???

johnny barker
nathan thompson
nick holland

this all happened while we kept duds on our list and refused to let them go.

this is the reason why we should trade tambling and newman at seasons end.
get value for money for those 2 and in arguably the most important draft in the next 5 years.

[tigersalive]

Apart from going for the bleeding obvious choices in Franklin and Roughead, what has he recruited?
I would have gone for those two - doesn't make me a good recruiter.
The Hawks tanked for a few years, so were able to rape... reap the best talent
So we gotta look at the gems in the draft he's picked up to ascertain how good Chris is.
Not saying he's not good - I hope he is - but let's not get carried away like I've seen elsewhere.

Are you fair dinkum MOI. Maybe some on here are right and you have no idea about Footy.
Ellis, Rioli, Lewis, Buddy, Roughead to name 5.
those 5 will be the best in the business.

even after you type Buddy thats enough to convince me Pelchen has done a great job.
the guy is a superstar and in the mean tine we picked up duds like Meyer and Tambling.

Moi you should think before you start away.

Ok just for clarity, I believe 2004 was Pelchen's first draft so the following are his selections with my thoughts that get more cloudy as its harder to judge players career off a season or 2. . . .

2004.
Roughie - Win
Buddy - Win
Lewis - Win
Murphy - Long road but on the improve this year.
Little - Fail
Taylor - Good Ruckman combo with Campbell

2005.
Ellis - Win
Dowler - Chopping block
Birchall - Win
Bailey - Chopping block
Muston - Slaughtered by injuries - Probably gone.
Tuck (Father-son) - Win
Guerra (PSD)  - Win

2006.
Thorp - Looking Ok, should make it.
Renouf - Big boy who got a run this year, has promise but I doubt he'll make it.
J. Morton - Played this year and looked good until the the big boys came back from injury.
J. Kennedy - Played this year and looked good until the the big boys came back from injury.
Moss - Who?

2007.

Rioli - Win
Whitecross - Hasnt made his mark yet
Dew - Clarkson's choice, been ok when not injured.


Take that how you will and what you consider a gem but from pick 10 onwards every pick has high risk, his record is pretty good.

That's great, thanks Tigersalive  
He does look like he's worth a look at.  When I get home, I'll see where those players were taken in the draft.
Seems recruiting is his forte, even if he is good at club functions  

Most are top 45 picks.

Since he isnt coming in to be our recruiter (as far as I'm aware) I think its important that in a managers post he's able to communicate and present to stakeholders in an excellent fashion.  From how the hawks fans and those a bit closer to the club talk about him his conduct around the club in his work and preparations for presentations and answering impromptu questions at functions and the like are very good.  Cant ask for much more.  It's worth chasing him imo but I'm far from convinced we'll get him.

[Ramps]

you forgot Jon Hay.

Pelchen would be a sensational get for Richmond.

[mightytiges]

Just for the record Pelchen joined Hawthorn midway through 2005 so he had nothing to do with the Hawks' 2004 draft picks (Buddy, Roughead and co.).

He's more known for first being at Port with Clarkson under Mark Williams in 2004 (Port's premiership year) and then crossing over to Hawthorn in 2005 to rejoin with Clarkson whereby he implemented a list-management strategy based on analysing all premiership sides of the modern era and correlating their common traits.

His actual first recruiting act at the Hawks was gaining Picks 14 and 18 in exchange for Jonathan Hay (Kangaroos) and Pick 54 and Nathan Lonie (Port Adelaide). With those picks the Hawks drafted Birchall and Bailey.