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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2009, 11:59:09 PM »
Not sure how Browny is expected to be 100% match fit in his 2nd game back from injury

Yep those excuses are what I am talking about. :thumbsup

Friday night was Ablett's first game back from injury and Chapman's too and they excelled and contributed for four quarters and if Chapman did not unluckily dislocate his finger with 10 minutes to go which was not related to his injury last week which resulted in him not playing the result would not have rested on the last kick of the match.

Examples such as this clearly indicate why we are a bottom 8 side and will continue to be.
We make excuses for players coming back from injury, suspension etc etc whilst others from other clubs just fly and do what they have to do to succeed.
Examples like that are a slur and an indictment on the RFC.

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2009, 08:43:33 AM »
Not sure how Browny is expected to be 100% match fit in his 2nd game back from injury

Yep those excuses are what I am talking about. :thumbsup

Friday night was Ablett's first game back from injury and Chapman's too and they excelled and contributed for four quarters and if Chapman did not unluckily dislocate his finger with 10 minutes to go which was not related to his injury last week which resulted in him not playing the result would not have rested on the last kick of the match.

Examples such as this clearly indicate why we are a bottom 8 side and will continue to be.
We make excuses for players coming back from injury, suspension etc etc whilst others from other clubs just fly and do what they have to do to succeed.
Examples like that are a slur and an indictment on the RFC.

Agree Tucker.  Instead of only playing the best and fittest we continue to pick sides that have holes.  That's why I keep harping on about not tanking - spend the rest of the season teaching them that only hard work and effort will get you a game.  Play the 22 players who will listen and give you 100% for 4 quarters even if they aren't the marquis or crowd favourites.  Drop a player the first time he doesn't do this, don't make excuses and say he has got 1 more week to show us.  Fear of failure was the single most driving attribute in a successful team in my playing and coaching days, and I'm damn sure it hasn't changed 1 bit since.  Our players might be embarrassed occasionally but they aren't scared to lose and we are never ever going to improve if we don't fix that.

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2009, 09:31:38 AM »
Friday night was Ablett's first game back from injury and Chapman's too and they excelled and contributed for four quarters ...

Just on Ablett, he is deadset playing for the Brownlow this season. Breaking team rules trying for the miraculous goals.

I am starting to despise him, he drops like he's just been shot if anyone touches him. That 50 metre free kick he got when Aker tugged on the corner of his jumper was a disgrace. Even against us, he'd just collapse when he got touched, writhe around in pain, then spring up 10 seconds later and be right as rain.

I have a theory that people don't tackle him because they can't, it's because if they do it's likely to end up in a free kick to Ablett.
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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2009, 09:43:46 AM »
Friday night was Ablett's first game back from injury and Chapman's too and they excelled and contributed for four quarters ...

Just on Ablett, he is deadset playing for the Brownlow this season. Breaking team rules trying for the miraculous goals.

I am starting to despise him, he drops like he's just been shot if anyone touches him. That 50 metre free kick he got when Aker tugged on the corner of his jumper was a disgrace. Even against us, he'd just collapse when he got touched, writhe around in pain, then spring up 10 seconds later and be right as rain.

I have a theory that people don't tackle him because they can't, it's because if they do it's likely to end up in a free kick to Ablett.

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2009, 09:46:52 AM »
Exactly I am sick of us carrying big name players whose reputations are inflated.

Browny played half a game big deal. Ablett played four quarters on Friday night.
So did Aker and Winderlich played four quarters last night. Who played four quarters for us last night????? Nobody oh wait we had a few and they played 4 poo quarters.
If we are happy for players who are match fit to play a good 60 minutes 4 years after they broke their leg then noone should be upset that we are 1-8 and that we have been overrun in the last quarter of games in each of the last 3 weeks.

I am sick of our underachievement failure and inflated ego bags that our players are.


You mean like Deledio?

Deledio is my biggest disappointment in 5 years. We've made out he was going to be as good as Browny was before he broke the leg, and he's not half as good as that.

Not even in our best let alone an AFL superstar.

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2009, 11:32:59 AM »
Exactly I am sick of us carrying big name players whose reputations are inflated.

Browny played half a game big deal. Ablett played four quarters on Friday night.
So did Aker and Winderlich played four quarters last night. Who played four quarters for us last night????? Nobody oh wait we had a few and they played 4 poo quarters.
If we are happy for players who are match fit to play a good 60 minutes 4 years after they broke their leg then noone should be upset that we are 1-8 and that we have been overrun in the last quarter of games in each of the last 3 weeks.

I am sick of our underachievement failure and inflated ego bags that our players are.


You mean like Deledio?

Deledio is my biggest disappointment in 5 years. We've made out he was going to be as good as Browny was before he broke the leg, and he's not half as good as that.

Not even in our best let alone an AFL superstar.


Deledio is not the problem.

He is an elite footballer playing with a team of hacks.

The team isnt good enough talent wise, we are carrying too many.

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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2009, 11:36:44 AM »
I agree 100% with Blaisee. If only we had more like Deledio we would be ok, instead we are a rabble.

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2009, 12:05:59 PM »
deledio is a problem but i dont blame him entirely

yes he is eliteish, he will be elite, but not under walace

deledio clearly is not happy, and its showing on feild and i reckon once wallace is gone he will dominate

im his biggest critic only bec i know what he can do and can become

this year is over, who cares what happens from now on, its just a time wasting exercise until we start fresh next yr with a new coach

another wasted year , this is richmond

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2009, 03:45:14 PM »
I agree 100% with Blaisee. If only we had more like Deledio we would be ok, instead we are a rabble.

Yeah well said, expectation are rubbish. Who is anyone to say this guy should be a superstar and if he isn't then he's a failure.

We'd win a lot more football games if we had 22 Deledio's. Just cause he can't carry the side means he deserves to be ridiculed. The guy gets picked at Number 1 and it's forced upon him he has the pressure of being that years best player. He's done very well considering. At the end of the day he's exactly the same as a Matt White or a Kane Johnson over teh journey all have 2 legs and 2 arms just cause he's not Chris Judd means we have to drown the guy.
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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2009, 07:41:16 PM »
I agree 100% with Blaisee. If only we had more like Deledio we would be ok, instead we are a rabble.

Yeah well said, expectation are rubbish. Who is anyone to say this guy should be a superstar and if he isn't then he's a failure.

We'd win a lot more football games if we had 22 Deledio's. Just cause he can't carry the side means he deserves to be ridiculed. The guy gets picked at Number 1 and it's forced upon him he has the pressure of being that years best player. He's done very well considering. At the end of the day he's exactly the same as a Matt White or a Kane Johnson over teh journey all have 2 legs and 2 arms just cause he's not Chris Judd means we have to drown the guy.

And wouldn't it be good if we applied the same set of expectations to Tambling; after all, he went further down in the draft than Deledio.  If he was a #10 pick we would be rapt with his output thus far - same as Deledio.

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2009, 10:12:58 PM »
Exactly I am sick of us carrying big name players whose reputations are inflated.

Browny played half a game big deal. Ablett played four quarters on Friday night.
So did Aker and Winderlich played four quarters last night. Who played four quarters for us last night????? Nobody oh wait we had a few and they played 4 poo quarters.
If we are happy for players who are match fit to play a good 60 minutes 4 years after they broke their leg then noone should be upset that we are 1-8 and that we have been overrun in the last quarter of games in each of the last 3 weeks.

I am sick of our underachievement failure and inflated ego bags that our players are.


You mean like Deledio?

Deledio is my biggest disappointment in 5 years. We've made out he was going to be as good as Browny was before he broke the leg, and he's not half as good as that.

Not even in our best let alone an AFL superstar.


Deledio is not the problem.

He is an elite footballer playing with a team of hacks.

The team isnt good enough talent wise, we are carrying too many.

I disagree. He is a highly talented and skillful player but doesnt work hard enough or play 4 consistent quarters. Would be a superstar if he did.

Its a tradition down at Richmond to take talented players and ruin them. We did it with both Campbell and Bowden. We pumped them up so much they didnt feel they had to work too hard.


 

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2009, 12:08:13 AM »
Exactly I am sick of us carrying big name players whose reputations are inflated.

Browny played half a game big deal. Ablett played four quarters on Friday night.
So did Aker and Winderlich played four quarters last night. Who played four quarters for us last night????? Nobody oh wait we had a few and they played 4 poo quarters.
If we are happy for players who are match fit to play a good 60 minutes 4 years after they broke their leg then noone should be upset that we are 1-8 and that we have been overrun in the last quarter of games in each of the last 3 weeks.

I am sick of our underachievement failure and inflated ego bags that our players are.


You mean like Deledio?

Deledio is my biggest disappointment in 5 years. We've made out he was going to be as good as Browny was before he broke the leg, and he's not half as good as that.

Not even in our best let alone an AFL superstar.


Deledio is not the problem.

He is an elite footballer playing with a team of hacks.

The team isnt good enough talent wise, we are carrying too many.

I disagree. He is a highly talented and skillful player but doesnt work hard enough or play 4 consistent quarters. Would be a superstar if he did.

Its a tradition down at Richmond to take talented players and ruin them. We did it with both Campbell and Bowden. We pumped them up so much they didnt feel they had to work too hard.


 

Yep and when someone bags the crap out of them its as if someone is being blasphemous.  :whistle
Club is a shambles.
Nine weeks into the season and we have been in the headlines each week for all the wrong reasons and the frenzy does not look like subsiding.

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2009, 10:16:01 AM »
Exactly I am sick of us carrying big name players whose reputations are inflated.

Browny played half a game big deal. Ablett played four quarters on Friday night.
So did Aker and Winderlich played four quarters last night. Who played four quarters for us last night????? Nobody oh wait we had a few and they played 4 poo quarters.
If we are happy for players who are match fit to play a good 60 minutes 4 years after they broke their leg then noone should be upset that we are 1-8 and that we have been overrun in the last quarter of games in each of the last 3 weeks.

I am sick of our underachievement failure and inflated ego bags that our players are.


You mean like Deledio?

Deledio is my biggest disappointment in 5 years. We've made out he was going to be as good as Browny was before he broke the leg, and he's not half as good as that.

Not even in our best let alone an AFL superstar.


Deledio is not the problem.

He is an elite footballer playing with a team of hacks.

The team isnt good enough talent wise, we are carrying too many.

I disagree. He is a highly talented and skillful player but doesnt work hard enough or play 4 consistent quarters. Would be a superstar if he did.

Its a tradition down at Richmond to take talented players and ruin them. We did it with both Campbell and Bowden. We pumped them up so much they didnt feel they had to work too hard.


 


You cant compare deledio to campbell and bowden, deledio is much much better.

He is a rolls royce footballer who rarely wastes a possession, and doesnt go chasing cheap kicks. Cant believe you compare bowden and campbell to lids, no comparison IMHO

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2009, 10:43:21 AM »
Exactly I am sick of us carrying big name players whose reputations are inflated.

Browny played half a game big deal. Ablett played four quarters on Friday night.
So did Aker and Winderlich played four quarters last night. Who played four quarters for us last night????? Nobody oh wait we had a few and they played 4 poo quarters.
If we are happy for players who are match fit to play a good 60 minutes 4 years after they broke their leg then noone should be upset that we are 1-8 and that we have been overrun in the last quarter of games in each of the last 3 weeks.

I am sick of our underachievement failure and inflated ego bags that our players are.


You mean like Deledio?

Deledio is my biggest disappointment in 5 years. We've made out he was going to be as good as Browny was before he broke the leg, and he's not half as good as that.

Not even in our best let alone an AFL superstar.


Deledio is not the problem.

He is an elite footballer playing with a team of hacks.

The team isnt good enough talent wise, we are carrying too many.

I disagree. He is a highly talented and skillful player but doesnt work hard enough or play 4 consistent quarters. Would be a superstar if he did.

Its a tradition down at Richmond to take talented players and ruin them. We did it with both Campbell and Bowden. We pumped them up so much they didnt feel they had to work too hard.


 

you call pumping Bowden up that he does not work hard enough. can remember another supporter oneday being shotdown by Robert Walls on live radio,  he was saying Bowden was weak & dont put his body on the line, Bowden played a great game that day  ;D maybe that was you calling in  ;D you stupid man
l say bowden has done more than most AFL footballers taking on huge opponants playing in the backline often beating them thats why he was picked as All-Australian
beating players like J Brown. why dont you write into the footy show & get Sam to ask Brown how he rates Joel Bowden when his played on him.  ;D

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Re: Biggest disapointment in RFC this past 5 years
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2009, 11:42:19 AM »
dont worry monk

people forget so easy how good players are

joel bowden is a dual AA you dont just buy them

joel has played forward midfield and back and been above ave in all positions, he has won games for us, saved games for us and been a true leader on and off the field

joel is a champion, and it is only the ignorant ones who forget how good he has been , as you say  ask j brown!!!!

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now that wallace is dust, watch deledio just bloom into the best , im his biggest critic but i dont blame him, i blame wallet and without wallet deledio will just explode