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« Reply #5640 on: May 27, 2022, 06:26:47 PM »
All of this is media driven.

Now we've got Tom Browne claiming Dusty will be tempted by the Swans (unfinished) new facilities  ::).

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« Reply #5641 on: May 28, 2022, 01:11:02 AM »
Didn't see the first half but Dusty wasn't very influential in the second.

Sometimes he looked a little lazy to me again.

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« Reply #5642 on: May 28, 2022, 01:28:56 AM »
Was much better first half. Faded out. Looks a bit unfit with his time off compared to others
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« Reply #5643 on: May 28, 2022, 01:39:00 AM »
Not a great audition although did some dusty thinfs

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« Reply #5644 on: May 28, 2022, 09:53:49 AM »
If I’m being honest Dusty since the swans game last year has produced quite a few average games, and last night was one of them.

He is either trying to hard or is getting on, and this is now the norm of what we should expect.

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« Reply #5645 on: May 28, 2022, 01:26:31 PM »
Looked disinterested a lot of the time, no chase, no pressure. He only looks like competing when the ball is in his area.

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« Reply #5646 on: May 28, 2022, 01:28:12 PM »
Looked disinterested a lot of the time, no chase, no pressure. He only looks like competing when the ball is in his area.

I agree, I got the feeling last night that I had in round one.  His heart just didn't seem quite in it. 

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« Reply #5647 on: May 28, 2022, 05:37:39 PM »
Looked disinterested a lot of the time, no chase, no pressure. He only looks like competing when the ball is in his area.

I agree, I got the feeling last night that I had in round one.  His heart just didn't seem quite in it.

He was pretty invested at the end when arguing for a 50.

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« Reply #5648 on: May 28, 2022, 05:54:51 PM »
Looked disinterested a lot of the time, no chase, no pressure. He only looks like competing when the ball is in his area.

I agree, I got the feeling last night that I had in round one.  His heart just didn't seem quite in it. 
Yeah I thought he would have nailed that kick in the last quarter ro level the scores in past years
 It's like he didn't put %100 into it.

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« Reply #5649 on: May 28, 2022, 07:32:34 PM »
Dusty trade talk ‘will not quit’ — but how a deal could happen is complex

Ben Cotton
Fox Sports
May 28th, 2022


Talk surrounding a Dustin Martin trade to one of the New South Wales clubs “will not quit,” according to Herald Sun journalist Jon Ralph. But how a deal could actually materialise is complex.

Ralph reported on Fox Footy on Friday night that Tigers football boss Tim Livingstone told him Martin, who’s contracted until 2024, is “settled” at Richmond and enjoying being back around his teammates after his mental health break.

And Sydney has reportedly all but ruled out a move for the three-time Norm smith medallist.

“I can tell you categorically we haven’t had any discussions so I think it’s highly unlikely,” Swans chairman Adam Pridham told Fox Footy, per Ralph.

“There is not a great history of clubs bringing people in at that age to try and grab a premiership, and it working.”

As Ralph highlighted, the price for Martin would likely be too high for the Swans — both in terms of what he’d cost at the trade table and fitting his lucrative contract into their salary cap.

“Sydney have two first rounders, Pick 10 and 18, (the latter) which is Melbourne’s first-round pick. They’ll look to pay Buddy Franklin around $500,000, down from $900,000,” Ralph told Fox Footy.

“They’ve got expiring deals — Josh Kennedy, Callum Sinclair, Sam Reid, Lewis Taylor, Ben Ronke, Sam Naismith — they’ve got some cap space.

“But Martin is due $2.6 million in the next two years, he wouldn’t take less, the Richmond footy club wouldn’t pay him elsewhere. And so if — and it’s a massive if — the Swans gave up two first rounders, Richmond would have three first rounders and a North Melbourne second rounder, they could start to rebuild again.”

However Lions great Jonathan Brown believes the Swans’ track record of landing big names suggests they could launch a bid.

And he thinks Martin’s durability means he could play for several more years.

“One club that has gotten it done over the journey in getting big names is Sydney … they’ve had ‘Plugger’ (Tony Lockett), they’ve had Barry Hall, and obviously Buddy Franklin,” Brown said on Fox Footy.

“They could easily get that deal done. Yes, Martin might be owed $2.6 million for the next two years, they could offer him a longer-term deal, extend that out and get it through.

“The other thing you look at is yes he is 31, but he’s different, he’s been very resilient. He’s played 20 plus games every season, you look at his legs, they’ve never been injured. So he’s more like a 25-year old.”

Meanwhile, Ralph reported the Giants, although expressing more openness to getting Martin, have even tighter salary cap pressures.

“GWS are on the record through their football boss Jason McCartney saying, ‘if Dustin’s interested, we are as well,’” Ralph said.

“(But) They already need to cut someone under their cap, Tim Taranto wants to stay after talks this week, but it’s not certain.

“They already have so many elite inside mids — Stephen Coniglio, Josh Kelly, Jacob Hopper, Taranto, Tom Green, Tanner Bruhn — now you can make up the BigFooty-style trades, but again the salary cap is an even bigger issue there.”

Melbourne great Garry Lyon believes clubs are ultimately “too conservative” when it comes to such moves.

“In this instance from Dustin Martin’s point of view, it’s probably a whole different ball game given who he is and where he comes from,” he said.

“But I think in general clubs are way too conservative in contemplating such a move.”

Former Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley thinks Damien Hardwick saying Martin had his blessing to leave hints at his confidence the 2017 Brownlow medallist will remain at Punt Road.

“I thought Hardwick’s comments the other week led to the fact that he’s really comfortable that Dusty is not even contemplating moving,” Buckley said.

“I don’t reckon they’re placating him, I reckon they know that he loves the place, he doesn’t want to go and I think the coach knows Dusty can do what he wants and I’m happy to say that if I know that he’s going to stay.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2022-dustin-martin-trade-to-nsw-clubs-sydney-swans-gws-giants-rumours-whispers-latest-mock-trades-richmond-tigers/news-story/04ac20030cf53207c427af9e2cd2c2b1

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #5650 on: May 28, 2022, 10:31:50 PM »
Looked disinterested a lot of the time, no chase, no pressure. He only looks like competing when the ball is in his area.

I agree, I got the feeling last night that I had in round one.  His heart just didn't seem quite in it. 
Yeah I thought he would have nailed that kick in the last quarter ro level the scores in past years
 It's like he didn't put %100 into it.

Geez he just hit the wrong side of the ball. It happens got nothing to do with his desire or effort.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #5651 on: May 28, 2022, 10:48:16 PM »
Maybe this isn’t a media driven rumour.  :rollin

Considering Dusty’s fondness for Sydney and what we could score as trade, does anyone think there’s a chance it’s a club driven rumour?  :lol
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #5652 on: May 28, 2022, 10:52:56 PM »
To be honest him and his manager can put it to bed speculation won't stop.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #5653 on: May 29, 2022, 09:51:23 AM »
My gut feel is the loss hurt us in another way on Friday night

Richo was boundary rider for Ch7, I reckon we win  that game Dusty would have done a short post match interview with Richo.

Not saying he would have said what everyone seems desperate to hear but would have definitely taken some focus away

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #5654 on: May 29, 2022, 10:25:47 AM »
There’s no point talking about it anymore until the season is over.
It’s out there now so we’ll have to absorb the talk until then.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.