Forward line

[mightytiges]

I realise we are trialing and rotating a few newbies up forward during the preseason such as Vickery, Nahas and Hislop for instance but our forward line and how we deliver the ball inside 50 needs plenty of homework done leading up to round 1.

Apart from the obvious many set shot misses we had last night which are my pet hate in footy (absolutely pathetic and unforgiveable 7 of those gimme misses were ), our attacking mids streaming through the centre didn't seem to lower their eyes to find marking targets just inside the arc but rather targeted the pockets or just bombed it to the goalsquare. Mind you our forwards didn't help as we always seemed to lack someone "high" near the top of the arc as an alternative marking option. We also allowed the ball to go 'over the back' of the forward marking contest and with all our other forwards in front of the contest we had no crumbers at the fall of the ball and the Pies swept it out with ease and under no pressure. The forward going for the mark needs to remember if he can't mark it then at least bring the ball down and keep it in front of you where your teammates are.

The other annoying thing was despite Newy and Whitey's supergoals, our mids seemed to have an aversion to kicking long goals on the run even if they were in space. It's a simple game boys. The name of the game is to kick the ball between the two big sticks moreso than your opponent to win.

[wayne]

Brian Royal is our forward coach isn't he.

Did he ever play there?

[Judge Roughneck]

hf: Cousins - Reiwoldt - Cotchin
ff: Brown  - Richo - Deledio

[Ramps]

need cotchin + connors in there

+ a Key Forward. Any chance Geelong will let Tom Hawkins go at the end of 2009 

[Judge Roughneck]

need cotchin + connors in there

+ a Key Forward. Any chance Geelong will let Tom Hawkins go at the end of 2009 

We don't have a proper key forward. Riewoldt is an option but still a baby. If our midfeild is not good enough after 5 years of Wallace to be able to function without a 34 year old key forward then we are in trouble. Richo should play out of the square, (Hughes/Schultz -> rubbish, Gourdis/Putt/Vickery -> 2 years away).

Tuck, Foley, Cogs, Thomson, Polo etc. need to get it together and give our best players the ball near our goals.

Hawkins would be perfect to balance the list.

[JBFTiger]

I know he is only a rookie, but Nahas is simply too small!

He got brushed aside a couple of times last night, like he wasnt even there.

To the gym son!

[torch]

our forward line structure is horrible.

against fremantle and last night against collingwood have been horrible.

how many times we kick the ball to a 1 on 2 going forward is bad.

i don't think we have had a forward lead and take a mark, go back and kick a goal this year.

yes, it is pre-season, but all last year it has been a problem.

we need a 'big' key forward.

Jayden Post hopefully gets told this.

a position at full forward with his marking ability looks promising.

Cleve Hughes seems to slow and lacking confidence.

Jay Shultz could be the 'Mr Fix It Man' when he decides to play football.

Jack Riewoldt can play, just needs to work on his kicking at goal.

how many times we have Nathan Brown leading with two players with him is never going to work.

Morton, were was he last night? needs consistancy.

and our goalkicking?

do we actually practise goalkicking at training?

[Stripes]

hf: Cousins - Reiwoldt - Cotchin
ff: Brown  - Richo - Deledio

Bents,

How can you leave Morton out of the lineup? He had a poor night against the Pies but he was in our equal 2nd highest goal scorer last year. He had one shot at goal from the pocket but like the rest of our forwards struggled with the back-line zone the Pies employed. This zone is going to make long kicks extremely rare unless teams have a quick turnover and fast break. I just hope with the additional space of the MCG we find it easier to move through these zones because otherwise we will have to change our game-plan and possibly even type of players we recruit in the future.

We can't have Richo at FF. I had flasbacks to the bad old days last night when our players were kicking to the big fellow with 3 players hanging off him and then at other time him getting the yips and missing from close range. We need Hughes, Schulz, Putt or Post in this position because the team is better with Richo away from this area. I think he was moved back here because he was getting beaten around the ground by Shaw who effectively tagged him. Richo and/or TW proabably thought to expose Shaws marking ability against Richo but the Pies defensive zone meant Shaw always had multiple helpers whenever the ball was kicked to the big fellow. Gibbs matches up equally as well against Richo so expect a quiet game from Richo in round one too. 

Cousins isn't elusive enough to be a forward. He is good breaking from the middle or running into the forwardline for an opportunist goal but someone like Morton is a far better fit IMHO.

Stripes

[WilliamPowell]

with ease and under no pressure. The forward going for the mark needs to remember if he can't mark it then at least bring the ball down and keep it in front of you where your teammates are.

Funny you should mention this MT, because there were a couple of times liast night where Jack actually bought the ball to ground in front and Brown & Nahas were not front and square they were actually behind the contest

I couldn't believe it I was like this 

[Chuck17]

Just on the forward line, very happy to see young Jack doing well in the last two games.  Very impressive and if he keeps coming on may shore up the gap with our KPP FF hole until it is sorted.

[Smokey]

Just on the forward line, very happy to see young Jack doing well in the last two games.  Very impressive and if he keeps coming on may shore up the gap with our KPP FF hole until it is sorted.

Yep, Jack's a keeper.

[Tigermonk]

practice game  no1 cares

[mightytiges]

Just on the forward line, very happy to see young Jack doing well in the last two games.  Very impressive and if he keeps coming on may shore up the gap with our KPP FF hole until it is sorted.

Yep, Jack's a keeper.

Jack had the yips on Thursday night but yep he's definitely a keeper. A natural footballer so it was only a question of getting his fitness and size up to AFL level when drafted if he was going to make it. It now looks like 2009 his 3rd year may be his breakout year. We just need another big key tall to stand up with up forward with him. Hello Cleve!

[one-eyed]

Tigers red-hot on forward firepower
richmondfc.com.au
By Jenna Szymanski
2:27 PM Fri 13 March, 2009

Richmond champion, Matthew Richardson, believes multiple goalscoring options will be vital to the team’s plans of success in the 2009 season.
 
The heavy emphasis on zone defence throughout this year’s NAB pre-season series has made it tough for teams to get through to their forward line and score. This, in turn, has led to plenty of discussion about how to combat the zone.   
 
“The pre-season has probably been harder for all teams. There’s been a lot of zoning going on and it’s very hard to get through the zone with your skill levels. You definitely want to have a good share of goalkickers,” Richardson said.
 
Richardson, who has been Richmond’s leading goalkicker for the past eight seasons (and 13 times all-up), feels the Tigers now have the best spread of goalkickers he’s seen during his 16-year career at Punt Road.
 
With players such as Mitch Morton, who booted 35 goals in an impressive debut season for the Club last year, and Nathan Brown, who’s regained full fitness, Richardson, and the Tigers, are looking forward to having plenty of firepower up forward.
 
“Mitch Morton stepped up last year and Nathan Brown is back to his best now, and I think he’s going to kick a lot more goals. So, we’re going to have a good, even spread of goalkickers, which is what all teams want.”
 
Jack Riewoldt is another younger player, who shapes as a consistent goalkicker for the Tigers following his 18-goal return in 2008.
 
“Jack’s steadily progressed in his few years so far.  It’s a big job for a young player taking on a key-position forward role and he’s starting to do that more consistently,” Richardson said.
 
“He’s starting to step up and he’s looking like he’s going to take another step this year.”
 
Throw in the likes of Brett Deledio (28 goals in ’08), Jay Schulz and Ben Cousins (a consistent goalscorer throughout his illustrious career at West Coast), and it’s no wonder “Richo” believes the race for the Michael Roach Medal as the Tigers’ leading goalkicker in 2009, is wide open.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/73190/default.aspx

[Ramps]

We are 1 key forward short ... whatever happens in the trade or draft period needs to happen with getting a key forward as the BIGGEST priority imho.