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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2790 on: August 19, 2023, 10:50:06 PM »
All time robbery over at Adelaide oval tonight.

Much worse than the horrendous tom lynch decision in the elimination final last year, not that I’m still dwelling…..

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2791 on: August 19, 2023, 11:55:27 PM »
All time robbery over at Adelaide oval tonight.

Much worse than the horrendous tom lynch decision in the elimination final last year, not that I’m still dwelling…..
Here's the vision from different camera angles. Clear goal which oddly wasn't reviewed. Fox Footy reckons the ump mistook the sound of Mills' arm hitting the post for the ball.

WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1692874376016761131

Once again, the shambolic goal review system has cost a team its season.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2792 on: August 20, 2023, 12:49:16 PM »
AFL CEO Gil McLachlan admits goal umpiring error last night. Says it should have been reviewed and if it was would have been overturned and been a goal. A huge umpiring mistake.

Also revealed the goal umpire has been stood down and won’t be umpiring for the rest of the season.

Doesn’t feel the need for more technology because the review clearly showed it did not hit the post. A human error.

AFL has apologised to the Adelaide Football Club for the costly mistake.

Won’t and can’t overturn the result.

https://twitter.com/coreynorris9

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« Reply #2793 on: August 20, 2023, 01:13:21 PM »
AFL CEO Gil McLachlan admits goal umpiring error last night. Says it should have been reviewed and if it was would have been overturned and been a goal. A huge umpiring mistake.

Also revealed the goal umpire has been stood down and won’t be umpiring for the rest of the season.

Doesn’t feel the need for more technology because the review clearly showed it did not hit the post. A human error.

AFL has apologised to the Adelaide Football Club for the costly mistake.

Won’t and can’t overturn the result.

https://twitter.com/coreynorris9

Why stand him down? Crucifying a bloke for making a mistake.

I thought every score was reviewed anyway or at least every goal is.

AFL should have done better.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2794 on: August 20, 2023, 01:15:33 PM »
Every goal is reviewed not behinds

Only way last night stuff up could get reviewed is if the goal umpire called for it
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2795 on: August 20, 2023, 01:17:34 PM »
AFL CEO Gil McLachlan admits goal umpiring error last night. Says it should have been reviewed and if it was would have been overturned and been a goal. A huge umpiring mistake.

Also revealed the goal umpire has been stood down and won’t be umpiring for the rest of the season.

Doesn’t feel the need for more technology because the review clearly showed it did not hit the post. A human error.

AFL has apologised to the Adelaide Football Club for the costly mistake.

Won’t and can’t overturn the result.

https://twitter.com/coreynorris9

Why stand him down? Crucifying a bloke for making a mistake.

I thought every score was reviewed anyway or at least every goal is.

AFL should have done better.

He absolutely should be stood down - incompetent fools aren't held to account enough as it is.... protected species that no-one's allowed to criticise..... :thumbsdown
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2796 on: August 20, 2023, 01:19:34 PM »
AFL CEO Gil McLachlan admits goal umpiring error last night. Says it should have been reviewed and if it was would have been overturned and been a goal. A huge umpiring mistake.

Also revealed the goal umpire has been stood down and won’t be umpiring for the rest of the season.

Doesn’t feel the need for more technology because the review clearly showed it did not hit the post. A human error.

AFL has apologised to the Adelaide Football Club for the costly mistake.

Won’t and can’t overturn the result.

https://twitter.com/coreynorris9

Why stand him down? Crucifying a bloke for making a mistake.

I thought every score was reviewed anyway or at least every goal is.

AFL should have done better.

He absolutely should be stood down - incompetent fools aren't held to account enough as it is.... protected species that no-one's allowed to criticise..... :thumbsdown

I just think if the tech is there, use it.

Controlling umpire should have called for a review.
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2797 on: August 20, 2023, 02:51:50 PM »
So what difference it makes to crows robbed and out of finals corrupt this organisation.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2798 on: August 20, 2023, 05:00:56 PM »
The umps are having a good week  :whistle.

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Here's another example of umpire incompetence, not even my club. Something needs to be done. Just seems like there are more bad decisions with the four umpires.


https://twitter.com/Big_Dan82/status/1693149637212004805

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2799 on: August 21, 2023, 07:59:36 PM »
Vault:
1985 Goal Umpiring error.
"One of the worst blunders in history here." - Peter McKenna.



With sound: https://twitter.com/rhettrospective/status/1688477580649783296


Almost 40 years later and the League still can't get it right  :whistle.


ps. Bonus points if you know who #28 for North is? Hint: You all know who he is from his role later on after his playing career.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2800 on: August 21, 2023, 08:17:19 PM »
I am convinced this group of umpires are compromised. Either by bitter revenge, attitude or by something else. Umpiring has got worse even with extra umpires and Arc reviews. But and this is where the fault lies. If you create an environment where their performance is devoid of scrutiny then this is where we land. And it's a very dangerous platform.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2801 on: August 21, 2023, 08:25:19 PM »
And this might sound a ridiculous statement, but what eye testing requirements does the AFL have for umpires. I say this because a little birdy has suggested to me today that the offending goal umpire may have a known issue with night vision... All the more reason why he should have requested the review. Which is why I am ..... 

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2802 on: August 21, 2023, 08:46:01 PM »
Vault:
1985 Goal Umpiring error.
"One of the worst blunders in history here." - Peter McKenna.



With sound: https://twitter.com/rhettrospective/status/1688477580649783296


Almost 40 years later and the League still can't get it right  :whistle.


ps. Bonus points if you know who #28 for North is? Hint: You all know who he is from his role later on after his playing career.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2803 on: August 21, 2023, 08:48:56 PM »
I am convinced this group of umpires are compromised. Either by bitter revenge, attitude or by something else. Umpiring has got worse even with extra umpires and Arc reviews. But and this is where the fault lies. If you create an environment where their performance is devoid of scrutiny then this is where we land. And it's a very dangerous platform.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #2804 on: August 25, 2023, 01:47:18 PM »
A senior ARC official will have increased communication with the goal umpire for the finals series, in a move the AFL hopes will avoid score review controversy in September and beyond.

The Herald Sun reports the league will now install a senior ARC official for the finals, with the official to urge the goal umpire to hold up play before signalling the score, should the ARC believe the decision should be reviewed.

In addition to the senior official, another ARC member will be responsible for the review itself.

The league is also expecting goal umpires to review any borderline decisions in round 24.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-score-review-system-arc-changes-for-finals-goal-umpires-better-cameras-ben-keays/news-story/6ee02a006b5e9a985994cc45fab1dfed

This doesn't solve the Lynch non-goal debacle from last year's EF ::).