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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 29, 2013, 12:49:36 AM
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The Suns will host competition heavyweights Richmond in round 1 at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-is-targeting-the-nrl-with-a-new-pre-season-tournament/story-fndv8d6r-1226748499170
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The Suns will host competition heavyweights Richmond in round 1 at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-is-targeting-the-nrl-with-a-new-pre-season-tournament/story-fndv8d6r-1226748499170
Maybe not yet but it does have a nice sound to it.
:cheers
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The Suns will host competition heavyweights Richmond in round 1 at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-is-targeting-the-nrl-with-a-new-pre-season-tournament/story-fndv8d6r-1226748499170
Maybe not yet but it does have a nice sound to it.
:cheers
:clapping
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The Suns will host competition heavyweights Richmond in round 1 at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-is-targeting-the-nrl-with-a-new-pre-season-tournament/story-fndv8d6r-1226748499170
Maybe not yet but it does have a nice sound to it.
:cheers
We draw as big as Collingwood as of this year so we are regardless of onfield performance
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First sell out for Metricon :shh
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First sell out for Metricon :shh
:rollin oops :shh
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First sell out for Metricon :shh
:rollin oops :shh
:clapping love that avatar tiga :bow
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Must win game
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Must win game
8 point game?
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First sell out for Metricon :shh
:rollin oops :shh
:clapping love that avatar tiga :bow
thanks EEA. :cheers Caps and T-Shirts are next so make sure you get on the "Bring Taylor Petrenko to Richmond" Bandwagon. ;D
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Need a " have you been Petrenko'ed yet?" add campaign for our members :lol
Free thong with every membership purchase :shh
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Vitally important that we win the first quarter and the three after that
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Im thinking of flying up and spending the week there with the family, need all the support the boys can get :gotigers
Though im really jot that keen on flying :-\
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Im thinking of flying up and spending the week there with the family, need all the support the boys can get :gotigers
Though im really jot that keen on flying :-\
Statistically speaking you are more likely to arrive alive flying to the GC than driving there, if that's what your concern is.
If you can get the courage up, fares are $55 on Tiger and $59 on Jetstar around that date if you're flexible with times.
At those prices I'm thinking of a quick little weekender up there :thumbsup
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Im thinking of flying up and spending the week there with the family, need all the support the boys can get :gotigers
Though im really jot that keen on flying :-\
Statistically speaking you are more likely to arrive alive flying to the GC than driving there, if that's what your concern is.
If you can get the courage up, fares are $55 on Tiger and $59 on Jetstar around that date if you're flexible with times.
At those prices I'm thinking of a quick little weekender up there :thumbsup
Not sure why, as a kid didnt bother me. As an adult its one of the only things I really dont enjoy
Ive heard its great little stadium though :thumbsup
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Looks great now. Last time I was there it was Carrara in about '89, a mud bog and Footscray thumped the Bears :lol one of my earliest memories. I was only about 3 :thumbsup
We're looking at a GC holiday around then too so might time it to get to this game.
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According to the Herald-Sun, we'll be playing the Suns in the middle of the day up there in mid-March :P. No doubt the heat room at Punt Rd will get a workout leading up to the game.
SATURDAY MARCH 15
Gold Coast v Richmond, Metricon Stadium (day)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-reveals-2014-stuff-1226749858096
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According to the Herald-Sun, we'll be playing the Suns in the middle of the day up there in mid-March :P. No doubt the heat room at Punt Rd will get a workout leading up to the game.
SATURDAY MARCH 15
Gold Coast v Richmond, Metricon Stadium (day)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-reveals-2014-stuff-1226749858096
Why would that first Saturday not have a night game? One of the biggest time slots. :lol
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According to the Herald-Sun, we'll be playing the Suns in the middle of the day up there in mid-March :P. No doubt the heat room at Punt Rd will get a workout leading up to the game.
SATURDAY MARCH 15
Gold Coast v Richmond, Metricon Stadium (day)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-reveals-2014-stuff-1226749858096
How is this fair?
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According to the Herald-Sun, we'll be playing the Suns in the middle of the day up there in mid-March :P. No doubt the heat room at Punt Rd will get a workout leading up to the game.
SATURDAY MARCH 15
Gold Coast v Richmond, Metricon Stadium (day)
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-reveals-2014-stuff-1226749858096
Why would that first Saturday not have a night game? One of the biggest time slots. :lol
Probably because round 1 is split over 2 weeks and they have to appease the TV networks in filling all time slots over the 2 week period
Wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a Fox Footy game and not in FTA
Ch 7 only get 4 games a round ;D
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Well looks like Campbell Brown May not even play after round two, old mate that had his jaw broken may would hope so.
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Well looks like Campbell Brown May not even play after round two, old mate that had his jaw broken may would hope so.
The AFL website left both Brown and May out of their best 22 for the Suns ...
Gold Coast
B: Seb Tape, Rory Thompson, Trent McKenzie
HB: Matt Shaw, Nathan Bock, David Swallow
C: Jarrod Harbrow, Jaeger O'Meara, Jack Martin
HF: Harley Bennell, Tom Lynch, Luke Russell
F: Aaron Hall, Sam Day, Charlie Dixon
R: Tom Nicholls, Gary Ablett, Dion Prestia
INT: Greg Broughton, Andrew Boston, Danny Stanley
SUB: Brandon Matera
NOTES: Positions become a bit tighter for the Suns in 2014. If he has no pre-season disruptions, vice-captain Nathan Bock should slot into centre half-back, while coach Guy McKenna may be tempted to leave David Swallow a half-back until draftee Kade Kolodjashnij finds his feet. Jack Martin is a superb addition on the wing, while Tom Lynch will return from a long-term knee injury at centre half-forward. Michael Rischitelli, Jesse Lonergan and Steven May could push for places with strong pre-seasons.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-30/your-clubs-best-22-for-round-one-part-one
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This may be the chance McKenna has been waiting for to sack Brown, I don't think he is that keen on him.
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I plan to be at this game and cheer the team on to victory in our fourth encounter! :thumbsup
:gotigers
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David Swallow :sleep
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This may be the chance McKenna has been waiting for to sack Brown, I don't think he is that keen on him.
Wed be a better chance with him in
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Hardwick said Foley and former captain Chris Newman had had terrific pre-seasons and expected them to be ''fully entrenched in the side come round one''.
Source: The Age (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-family-embraces-dustin-martin-after-contract-adventure-20140204-31zhg.html)
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Hardwick said Foley and former captain Chris Newman had had terrific pre-seasons and expected them to be ''fully entrenched in the side come round one''.
Source: The Age (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-family-embraces-dustin-martin-after-contract-adventure-20140204-31zhg.html)
should've shut the door on this bloke a year ago.
his the worst player in the team now
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his what is the worst player in the team?
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Agree with Hampson
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The Suns will host competition heavyweights Richmond in round 1 at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-is-targeting-the-nrl-with-a-new-pre-season-tournament/story-fndv8d6r-1226748499170
Maybe not yet but it does have a nice sound to it.
:cheers
Its been a long time since we were called a competition heavyweight :clapping
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Tickets secured, all done just waiting for March 15 now :)
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We will win by 4 goals in Round 1 and get off to a good start.
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We will win by 4 goals in Round 1 and get off to a good start.
We'll win by 10
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Do AFL memberships work at this dump?
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Do AFL memberships work at this dump?
No.
You better have deep pockets though.
I just booked 7 seats in the 2nd row of the top deck and they cost me $81 bucks each.
WTF?
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Do AFL memberships work at this dump?
No.
You better have deep pockets though.
I just booked 7 seats in the 2nd row of the top deck and they cost me $81 bucks each.
WTF?
Yeah I think it was a different type of membership that I had that had access to interstate venues. Damn it. Good old concession tickets. I think I can do $35 each which is still pretty steep for poo seats as a concession. :banghead
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Yellow and Black out the Sun in Round 1
richmondfc.com.au
February 6, 2014
Richmond fans are being encouraged to 'Yellow and Black out the Sun' for the Club's opening round clash against the Gold Coast on March 15 at Metricon Stadium.
Tiger fans can purchase tickets in special bays at the stadium, where they can cheer on the team alongside fellow supporters.
Tickets for the opening round match are on sale today (Thursday, February 6), however the special Richmond bays will be available from 9am on Monday, February 10.
Be part of the Tiger Army in season 2014 and become a Richmond member today.
Fans will be alerted with an email on Monday, with details of how to purchase their spot in the 'Yellow and Black out' seating zone. If you currently do not receive email updates from the Club, sign up by clicking here (https://oss.ticketmaster.com/html/home.htmI?l=EN&team=richmond).
Read more here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-02-06/yellow-and-black-out-the-sun-in-round-1
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Suns don't have any fans anyway so what's the point? :shh
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Cya up there Tiger maniacs. :cheers
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Funny how my family holiday happen to fall up on the goldie at this time!
Sh don't tell the misses...
:thumbsup
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According to Ticketmaster, adult tickets cost between $33 and $81 ...
http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/gcfc-v-rich-reservedgeneral-admission-carrara-queensland-15-03-2014/event/13004C26BCD28F90?artistid=1436352&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=711&tm_link=artist_msg-0_13004C26BCD28F90
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Funny how my family holiday happen to fall up on the goldie at this time!
Sh don't tell the misses...
:thumbsup
Nice! I was there last week and drove past stadium on way back from movie world. Metricon stadium looks great wish I was tgere rd 1 :gotigers
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Funny how my family holiday happen to fall up on the goldie at this time!
Sh don't tell the misses...
:thumbsup
Nice! I was there last week and drove past stadium on way back from movie world. Metricon stadium looks great wish I was tgere rd 1 :gotigers
It is a really nice stadium to watch at. Just hope they've sorted out the gates for entry. Can imagine it being pretty slow if it's packed there. :whistle
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Humid.
:lol :rollin :lol
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Sit in the same area as other Richmond fans - 'Yellow and Blackout the Suns'
http://tige.rs/yellowandblackout
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Sit in the same area as other Richmond fans - 'Yellow and Blackout the Suns'
http://tige.rs/yellowandblackout
Well thats just great for the procrastinators amongst the membership, but what about those of us that got in early.
It might have been nice if the club had have sent an email as soon as tickets were released weeks ago, to warn us.
Nice thought but many have been disadvantaged because of a basic lack of foresight.
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Sit in the same area as other Richmond fans - 'Yellow and Blackout the Suns'
http://tige.rs/yellowandblackout
Well thats just great for the procrastinators amongst the membership, but what about those of us that got in early.
It might have been nice if the club had have sent an email as soon as tickets were released weeks ago, to warn us.
Nice thought but many have been disadvantaged because of a basic lack of foresight.
Agree. I also got in early, as soon as the tickets were released, to secure the best seats. Had I known the club was doing something like this, I would have waited.
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Any word as yet on attendance numbers so far?
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I'm with jackstar early notice would of been appreciated I got in bay 112.
On that note I followed the email and the link here and nothing comes up for Richmond just the ticketmaster site?... Where the Richmond seating out of curiosity?
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Section 108 right on the boundary
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On that note I followed the email and the link here and nothing comes up for Richmond just the ticketmaster site?...
No that's correct CUB, link goes to Ticketmaster because they are the ticket seller for Metricon. But it brings up a selected set of bays
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The bookies have us as favourites against the Suns.
Gold Coast $2.40
Richmond $1.55
https://www.tab.com.au/#!/vic/sports/betting/standard/AFL/AFL/Gold-Coast-v-Richmond/Head-To-Head
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GWS look pretty good actually, very good clearing the ball, just watching them against the Bombers, we will need to be switched on!
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Thompson won't play which means Warnock will get Jack. Ablett will be underdone as well.
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Were playing Gold Coast so GWS won't be a problem ;D
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Were playing Gold Coast so GWS won't be a problem ;D
Good pickup, eagle eyes CUB
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Gold Coast monstering the Pies. 54-15
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For those who will be up on the Gold Coast on Friday week:
The next open training session will be held at Metricon Stadium on 14th March at 2.30pm.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/season/training-times
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Thompson won't play which means Warnock will get Jack. Ablett will be underdone as well.
cmon lets all turn a new leaf where we dont want to play sides with injury. we want em all at full strength so there can be no excuses.
surely we are at a stage where we are either good enough or we arent i dont want to see any cracks papered over playing and winning against injured sides.
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Agree wholeheartedly Claw, need to take the challenges head on and be scared of no-one.
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Tigs just stating the facts, whos in whos out wigga
maybe we can postpone the game until Thompson gets better?
or u could just stop being a nuffer?
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Thompson won't play which means Warnock will get Jack. Ablett will be underdone as well.
cmon lets all turn a new leaf where we dont want to play sides with injury. we want em all at full strength so there can be no excuses.
surely we are at a stage where we are either good enough or we arent i dont want to see any cracks papered over playing and winning against injured sides.
:clapping
Here Here!!!!!!
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Anyone, know when the team lobs up at the Gold Coast this week?
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They should be there on Monday. Meeting with Capper on Tuesday. Shane Charters on Wednesday. Dreamworld on Thursday.
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As long as their preferred mode of transport isn't motorcycle then they should be ok.
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Anyone, know when the team lobs up at the Gold Coast this week?
Friday
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They should be there on Monday. Meeting with Capper on Tuesday. Shane Charters on Wednesday. Dreamworld on Thursday.
:clapping
(http://lunchwithfriendsdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/945967_10151366260771857_752765698_n.jpg?w=750&h=562)
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I made that btw.
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Trying to come up with a likely round 1 side :-\. Not easy. I would say there's 20 lock-ins with Hardwick favouring Thomas of all the rookies.
B: Morris Rance Astbury
HB: Martin Chaplin Houli
C: Ellis Cotchin Conca
HF: Newman Riewoldt S.Edwards
F: Griffiths Vickery Lloyd?
R: Hampson Deledio Thomas
Int: Grigg, Vlastuin, McDonough
Sub: Foley?
Emg: Petterd, Miles, A.Edwards
Small forward? Lloyd, King or Banfield.
Substitute? Foley, Petterd or Miles.
Injured: Maric, Jackson, Lennon.
Underdone: Grimes, Knights.
Overlooked: Dea, Batchelor, Helbig, McIntosh, McBean, Gordon, Elton, O'Hanlon, Stephenson, Arnot, Williams, Darrou.
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Elton looked Good Friday May slot into Lloyd's spot, looked more impressive from mine.
Thomas has been impressive with his desire and hardness, can he take that onto the big stage?
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Tigs just stating the facts, whos in whos out wigga
maybe we can postpone the game until Thompson gets better?
or u could just stop being a nuffer?
Yeh but you missed my voodoo doll collection bro. :lol :lol
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Thompson won't play which means Warnock will get Jack. Ablett will be underdone as well.
cmon lets all turn a new leaf where we dont want to play sides with injury. we want em all at full strength so there can be no excuses.
surely we are at a stage where we are either good enough or we arent i dont want to see any cracks papered over playing and winning against injured sides.
Your rant in the other thread is quite ironic. Where did I go wishing injuries. Those injuries have happened and I posted them in here for people to read because you know they're kinda relevant. :lol :lol
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Trying to come up with a likely round 1 side :-\. Not easy. I would say there's 20 lock-ins with Hardwick favouring Thomas of all the rookies.
B: Morris Rance Astbury
HB: Martin Chaplin Houli
C: Ellis Cotchin Conca
HF: Newman Riewoldt S.Edwards
F: Griffiths Vickery Lloyd?
R: Hampson Deledio Thomas
Int: Grigg, Vlastuin, McDonough
Sub: Foley?
Emg: Petterd, Miles, A.Edwards
Small forward? Lloyd, King or Banfield.
Substitute? Foley, Petterd or Miles.
Injured: Maric, Jackson, Lennon.
Underdone: Grimes, Knights.
Overlooked: Dea, Batchelor, Helbig, McIntosh, McBean, Gordon, Elton, O'Hanlon, Stephenson, Arnot, Williams, Darrou.
Elton looked Good Friday May slot into Lloyd's spot, looked more impressive from mine.
Thomas has been impressive with his desire and hardness, can he take that onto the big stage?
Here's the AFL website's guess at our round 1 team:
Your club's best 22
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
March 9, 2014
FACTORING in form, fitness and injury concerns, our writers select the best 22 your club can put on the field for round one of the 2014 premiership season.
Richmond
B: Steve Morris, Troy Chaplin, Dylan Grimes
HB: Dustin Martin, Alex Rance, Bachar Houli
C: Shaun Grigg, Trent Cotchin, Brandon Ellis
HF: Chris Knights, Jack Riewoldt, Brett Deledio
F: Ben Griffiths, Ty Vickery, Shane Edwards
FOLL: Shaun Hampson, Reece Conca, Dan Jackson
INT: Chris Newman, Nick Vlastuin, Nathan Foley
SUB: Matt Thomas
The absence of No.1 ruckman Ivan Maric (ankle) means recruit Shaun Hampson steps up to play the lead role. The door also opens for Ben Griffiths to come into the team as a tall forward who can offer ruck support. Dylan Grimes is the club's best option as a third tall defender, while Dustin Martin is named at half-back, where he was used effectively through the NAB Challenge. Forward Jake King and defender Ricky Petterd face a battle breaking into a strong line-up. Midfielder Thomas, however, has been impressive through the pre-season and could have done enough to earn a round one call-up.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-09/your-clubs-best-22-hawthorn-to-west-coast
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Geez jacko grimes and knights with nil or near to no game time hmmmm
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Mature-aged recruit Matt Thomas is almost assured of joining former Blue Shaun Hampson in making his debut for Richmond in the round-one clash on the Gold Coast on Saturday night.
Ivan Maric is out for at least another four to six weeks and would then need to play in the VFL before being up for senior selection.
The Tigers will also be without last year's best-and-fairest winner Daniel Jackson for round one, meaning they will be without their first-choice tagger for Suns captain Gary Ablett, but will otherwise have a strong side to take on the Suns.
Aaron Edwards, Jake King and Nathan Foley all played in the VFL practice match against Collingwood on Friday in a pointer to the club's improved depth.
Youngster Matt McDonough is also pushing to be part of the round-one side after consistently impressive performances in the pre-season matches.
"We have got tough selection decisions. We have got good depth at the moment," Richardson said.
The Tigers face, on paper at least, a reasonably winnable opening string of matches to the season with Gold Coast away, followed by Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Collingwood and the Brisbane Lions.
However, the Gold Coast has previously given the Tigers trouble.
The Tigers lost twice to the Suns in Cairns in sold Richmond home games before they finally prevailed against them last year.
Saturday's game at Metricon Stadium will be the first time Richmond has played "away" to the Suns on the Gold Coast.
Round two, at the MCG, is a rematch of last year's losing final to Carlton.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matureaged-rookie-matt-thomas-set-to-debut-for-richmond-20140309-34fif.html
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Ablett will eat Thomas alive if the plan is for the two to play on each other
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Ablett will eat Thomas alive if the plan is for the two to play on each other
Dimma said they'll prob rotate three guys on him because they don't have any one bloke that can go with him and you cant stop him anyway
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Ablett will eat Thomas alive if the plan is for the two to play on each other
Dimma said they'll prob rotate three guys on him because they don't have any one bloke that can go with him and you cant stop him anyway
You can restrict him though which is what 16 other clubs try to do. Unfortunately for the Pies, Bucks took it literally and didn't put anyone on him and he had about 500 possies as the Suns gave them a good ol' beating.
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I would seriously put Cotch on him, as our leader could really damage him going the other way. Ablett has no defensive skills, always out the back or side looking to be the link player.
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I would seriously put Cotch on him, as our leader could really damage him going the other way. Ablett has no defensive skills, always out the back or side looking to be the link player.
Yep, We did that last year or the year before cant recall, but both had about 38 touches, cotch was more influential imo, Also, Lids rotated on and off him too so was definitely a different gameplan to usual
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I would seriously put Cotch on him, as our leader could really damage him going the other way. Ablett has no defensive skills, always out the back or side looking to be the link player.
Yep would be happy with that or even Deledio, Lids' pace could be a weapon against Junior
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Agree with comment to try and exploit Ablett's perceived lack of defensive skills. Jackson's offensive work last year was very very good against Ablett. Need Cotchin up forward. Believe they will rotate players on him.
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Put the Lids on him, he'll give you 100% guaranteed, if Morris had more of an engine, he could do the job....
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Suns follow Tigers' template for reaching finals: McKenna
Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
March 10, 2014
GOLD Coast has used Richmond as a measuring stick of improvement since coming into the AFL, and is hoping to continue the Tigers' nightmare run in Queensland when they meet in round one on Saturday night.
Since entering the competition in 2011, the Suns have won two of three matches against Richmond, both in Cairns, which is their best record against any team.
And now they want to follow Richmond's lead of making the finals, after the Tigers broke a long drought to finish in the top eight last season.
Gold Coast coach Guy McKenna says he has closely monitored the model used by Tigers coach Damien Hardwick since he took the reigns in 2009.
The Suns won eight games to finish 13th last season and are hopeful of another big jump this year.
"They're one or two years ahead of us," McKenna said of Richmond.
"Damien came in as coach and stripped back the list. He's injected through the draft and trading players in.
"We don't have the 100 years of tradition like they've got … but we track them and follow them and we know they're just ahead of us on the curve.
"It's a great measure of us when we play them and I think our recent history against Richmond, it proves that."
McKenna said he had been impressed by the Tigers' pre-season form and expected them to be hungry after a stuff finals exit last season.
"I think they've got some bad experiences of coming up to Queensland as well - I know it's not Cairns, but it's Metricon, and we want to make sure those nightmares continue," he said.
Gold Coast is likely to give a debut to three players, with young defenders Sean Lemmens and Clay Cameron set to join highly touted teenager Jack Martin as first gamers.
The news on stuff Rory Thompson is not so good, with McKenna saying he was "a long shot" to play after a pre-season interrupted by hip surgery and illness.
"If we want to make the finals we have to improve 50 per cent - eight wins to 12 - it's simple maths," McKenna said.
"Our output has to go up accordingly. If we're able to maintain the rage for longer, you win more games, you get yourselves in the finals.
"After four pre-seasons we're physically ready to rumble in the jungle, but mentally is our great challenge. That's part of our growth, that's part of the growth of our football club."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-10/follow-that-tiger
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I hope they have the template from 2002
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12 wins won't get u to finals. K, guy?
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We might have 100 years of tradition but we definitely don't have a list with so many top 10 draft choices that it makes your head spin Guy! :wallywink
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surely gws/gc cant keep every first rounder
we need to start going hard @ poaching them
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Top draft picks, don't worry we have a few too......
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Im thinking of flying up and spending the week there with the family, need all the support the boys can get :gotigers
Though im really jot that keen on flying :-\
Statistically speaking you are more likely to arrive alive flying to the GC than driving there, if that's what your concern is.
If you can get the courage up, fares are $55 on Tiger and $59 on Jetstar around that date if you're flexible with times.
At those prices I'm thinking of a quick little weekender up there :thumbsup
Not sure why, as a kid didnt bother me. As an adult its one of the only things I really dont enjoy
Ive heard its great little stadium though :thumbsup
fantastic stadium. Well worth going to.
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Capacity: 25,000
punt road within the decade :shh
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I would seriously put Cotch on him, as our leader could really damage him going the other way. Ablett has no defensive skills, always out the back or side looking to be the link player.
Yep would be happy with that or even Deledio, Lids' pace could be a weapon against Junior
Their midfield is their ONLY strength IMO, and we have the talent to more than cover them, as long as we have the right player on Ablett, Cotch I reckon. We should be easily able to handle their forwards, and I honestly think they will struggle against our tall forwards. My only slight concern is our small forwards, would use Lloyd or I guess Kingy in that role. Love the look of young Miles too, but he is a pure mid in my view.
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I would not be underestimating this team, they have the talent and they have shown us up before. I would like to think this is in the bag but they are quite a fit team too.
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I would not be underestimating this team, they have the talent and they have shown us up before. I would like to think this is in the bag but they are quite a fit team too.
I agree with you but I think we more than cover them in the midfield area, their biggest strength. We lost to them when we were a pretty poor side, we have improved out of sight since 3 years ago. They have no doubt improved too, but I just think we are a better balanced and well rounded side.
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I would not be underestimating this team, they have the talent and they have shown us up before. I would like to think this is in the bag but they are quite a fit team too.
I agree with you but I think we more than cover them in the midfield area, their biggest strength. We lost to them when we were a pretty poor side, we have improved out of sight since 3 years ago. They have no doubt improved too, but I just think we are a better balanced and well rounded side.
Yeah I would like to think that's the case. Tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised if Foley, Grimes and Lloyd play.
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I would not be underestimating this team, they have the talent and they have shown us up before. I would like to think this is in the bag but they are quite a fit team too.
I agree with you but I think we more than cover them in the midfield area, their biggest strength. We lost to them when we were a pretty poor side, we have improved out of sight since 3 years ago. They have no doubt improved too, but I just think we are a better balanced and well rounded side.
Yeah I would like to think that's the case. Tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised if Foley, Grimes and Lloyd play.
Would be shocked if Grimes got a game after one game back at reserves level. The others, maybe. I think we will pick a side specifically to suit the conditions and match-ups.
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I would not be underestimating this team, they have the talent and they have shown us up before. I would like to think this is in the bag but they are quite a fit team too.
I agree with you but I think we more than cover them in the midfield area, their biggest strength. We lost to them when we were a pretty poor side, we have improved out of sight since 3 years ago. They have no doubt improved too, but I just think we are a better balanced and well rounded side.
Yeah I would like to think that's the case. Tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised if Foley, Grimes and Lloyd play.
Would be shocked if Grimes got a game after one game back at reserves level. The others, maybe. I think we will pick a side specifically to suit the conditions and match-ups.
Well Grimes first game back after his very long lay off injured was after a half in the reissues then he was back in the side the next week.
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Astbury done enough to keep him out
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Yeah I think Assberry will get the nod ahead of half-cooked Grimesy. Keen to see how he goes. Im not sold on him but he looked solid against the Dons. Hopefully he has gone up a gear.
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Jackson's offensive work last year was very very good against Ablett.
Not according to the umpires on Brownlow night :huh
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Well Grimes first game back after his very long lay off injured was after a half in the reissues
A half where ? :lol
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Well Grimes first game back after his very long lay off injured was after a half in the reissues
A half where ? :lol
stuffing ipad.... ;D
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Jackson's offensive work last year was very very good against Ablett.
Not according to the umpires on Brownlow night :huh
Didn't whacko get the 3?
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Well Grimes first game back after his very long lay off injured was after a half in the reissues
A half where ? :lol
stuffing ipad.... ;D
A poor tradesmen blames his tools
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Well Grimes first game back after his very long lay off injured was after a half in the reissues
A half where ? :lol
stuffing ipad.... ;D
A poor tradesmen blames his tools
So be it!!!
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Didn't whacko get the 3?
He did but Ablett inconceivably got 1 vote in the same game. Jacko beat him easily. No way should Gaz have got a vote in that game
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Is it me or is this early start to the AFL season as flat as an overcooked pancake :-\
Round 1 games should big games at the big venues like the MCG
Think the AFL has stuffed up on this early start/split round nonsense ;D
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TBH I think 3 split rounds a season is nonsense. The draw is ridiculous and in a relatively even competition, a teams fortune is directly tied in with the draw they receive. Bite the bullet and drop it to a 17 round season plus finals and throw in a legitimate State of origin to make up the shortfall. players get an extended off season break and can quit their whingeing.
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You mean everyone plays everyone once and it is fair?
Pppftt. U crazy
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Is it me or is this early start to the AFL season as flat as an overcooked pancake :-\
Round 1 games should big games at the big venues like the MCG
Think the AFL has stuffed up on this early start/split round nonsense ;D
It's not just you, I can't understand this stupid fascination with having round 1 split over two weeks, and on top of that, drawing meh games for the opening round.
It should be a footy feast. Blockbuster Friday night, games on Saturday at 1:10, 2:15, 4:30 and then the 2 Saturday night games. Sunday 1:10, 4:40 and West Coast/Freo derby at 7:30 (our time) Sunday night.
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Yeah Spose your right, but been looking forward to Gold Coast so much didn't really analyse it ;D :gotigers
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Bite the bullet and drop it to a 17 round season plus finals and throw in a legitimate State of origin to make up the shortfall. players get an extended off season break and can quit their whingeing.
You're 100% correct. That's how it should be. I love me some footy but the season is too long and the draw is clearly an unfair lottery but..... The AFL will never do it due to the TV rights deals.
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Bite the bullet and drop it to a 17 round season plus finals and throw in a legitimate State of origin to make up the shortfall. players get an extended off season break and can quit their whingeing.
You're 100% correct. That's how it should be. I love me some footy but the season is too long and the draw is clearly an unfair lottery but..... The AFL will never do it due to the TV rights deals.
could spin the sell
less games makes each game more important or in demand, more bums on seats, more viewers tuning in and suddenly like the NFL it cost you a $100 to sit in the nosebleeds
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Hi all,
Does anyone know where the players are staying and when they are getting up to GC??????
I hear parking is nowhere to be seen at metricon ?? So would anyone no what the best bus services is to get there???
looking forward to the evening lets hope we can come back with he 4points :thumbsup
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Hi all,
Does anyone know where the players are staying and when they are getting up to GC??????
I hear parking is nowhere to be seen at metricon ?? So would anyone no what the best bus services is to get there???
looking forward to the evening lets hope we can come back with he 4points :thumbsup
Hi I'm up here and ready to rumble.
The lady at where we are staying said it was free public transport to Metricon, no parking, you just need to show your ticket.. Apparently one of the buses from the main drag will take us out there.
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4 point game
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Is it me or is this early start to the AFL season as flat as an overcooked pancake :-\
Round 1 games should big games at the big venues like the MCG
Think the AFL has stuffed up on this early start/split round nonsense ;D
x2
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4 point game
Nah. The first game is always an 8 point game! ;D
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Is it me or is this early start to the AFL season as flat as an overcooked pancake :-\
Round 1 games should big games at the big venues like the MCG
Think the AFL has stuffed up on this early start/split round nonsense ;D
Causing havoc for Supercoach too :banghead
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Heading up Saturday morning. Pumped!
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Big Willy Styles :clapping
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4 point game
Nah. The first game is always an 8 point game! ;D
It'll have to be a 6 point game this year because they don't have daylight savings in Qld.
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Herald-Sun's Barometer Round 1
March 12, 2014
RICHMOND
THE KIDS
Matt McDonough is the Tigers’ boom youngster of the pre-season, having made the transition from small goalkicker to small defender after an outstanding year in the VFL. He is a Round 1 certainty. David Astbury is 23 but has emerged in the pre-season as a defensive lock, ready to take the opposition’s best attacker at times.
THE IMPORTS
Matt Thomas has been exceptional in a tagging role, and will play on Gary Ablett in Round 1. Anthony Miles, who spent two years at GWS, has also been impressive, but with so many inside midfielders may have to bide his time. Shaun Hampson will play against the Suns after excellent pre-season form, including strong figures for hitouts to advantage.
INJURY ROOM
Dan Jackson (hamstring) and Ivan Maric (five to six weeks with an ankle) will miss Round 1. The club is determined not to rush Jackson, who has missed key sessions in recent weeks. Maric’s loss is big, but Hampson has lifted in his pre-season absence.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-barometer-we-take-a-stuff-at-how-every-team-is-shaping-up-for-a-bumper-round-1/story-fndv7pj3-1226850759550
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New faces in the mix for AFL's round one
Emma Quayle
The Age
March 12, 2014
RICHMOND (v Gold Coast, Metricon Stadium, Saturday March 15, 6.40pm)
Matt Thomas ended an impressive pre-season by gathering 26 possessions and laying 10 tackles against Essendon, earning himself a spot on the senior list and a probable round-one game. The 27-year-old former Port Adelaide player, who won last year's Magarey Medal, and former Carlton ruckman Shaun Hampson are likely to be two new Tigers against the Suns, with first-round draftee Ben Lennon on his way back from minor knee surgery. But Matt McDonough, who made a one-match debut last year, has played some excellent footy on the half-back line and will be hard to leave out.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/new-faces-in-the-mix-for-afls-round-one-20140311-hvhgv.html
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Can anyone advise when the tigers get up to GC and if they maybe having a run prior to the game....
Big week Richmond v gold coast
NRL west tigers v gold coast
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Can anyone advise when the tigers get up to GC and if they maybe having a run prior to the game....
Big week Richmond v gold coast
NRL west tigers v gold coast
As posted previously
They are due to arrive there Friday
And are conducting an open training session Friday Arvo
From the RFC web-site: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/season/training-times
The next open training session will be held at Metricon Stadium on 14th March at 2.30pm.
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Heading up Saturday morning. Pumped!
Me too :clapping
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Get a room ::)
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Get a room ::)
We already have. :cheers :wub
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:lol :lol :lol someone please ban this guy. :banghead
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back on topic here :o . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.
mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward. ffs jake king is our regular sml forward. and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.
i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.
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back on topic here :o . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.
mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward. ffs jake king is our regular sml forward. and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.
i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.
Always the pessimist claw. Conversely I'm probably too much the other way at times - I think we will win easily. :gotigers
Those who rotate the Inside mid role on our senior list- Cotch, Jackson, Thomas, Martin, Foley, Arnot, Vlaustin, Conca, King and Helbig.I may have missed some. Lids, Ellis, Houli and Grigg play almost exclusively as outside runners but even these get a gig on the inside at times. :cheers
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just gotta question the logic at times everything, all the time.
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back on topic here :o . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.
mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward. ffs jake king is our regular sml forward. and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.
i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.
Before I comment, just want to check if there are any punctuation or grammatical errors in your post that may skew my interpretation?
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back on topic here :o . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.
mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward. ffs jake king is our regular sml forward. and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.
i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.
Always the pessimist claw. Conversely I'm probably too much the other way at times - I think we will win easily. :gotigers
Those who rotate the Inside mid role on our senior list- Cotch, Jackson, Thomas, Martin, Foley, Arnot, Vlaustin, Conca, King and Helbig.I may have missed some. Lids, Ellis, Houli and Grigg play almost exclusively as outside runners but even these get a gig on the inside at times. :cheers
stripes i really like you as a poster and i reckon your pretty close on most things. but please mate do i need to go thru each player.
if i have a major criticism of martin it is the small amount of contested ball he gets. it really is terrible for one whos being touted as elite.
thomas for a so called inside mid actually gets more ball outside aand with his skills its why he got chopped.
vlas has spent most of his time across hb and for this yr at least without going into a long winded ex planation should do so again imo.
conca is very outside imo , thats not to say he wont go and get it when needed.i have some real issues with conca. if i was to make a call on all our early picks conca is the one im most concerned about.
are helbig and arnot even going to get games.
foley has become a more outside player than inside and it has to stop. his skills outside are not good enough. trouble is with his size and the way the games going hes struggling to compete on the inside.
jacko well he competes im not sure about just how much contested ball he gets a fair bit i suppose if i was fair. but its what hes done with it how much does he hurt.had a good yr last yr and ive been critical of almost all his yrs ,so that vis saying something. im asking will he revert back which is normally the case with limited players or will he sustain the level.
imo inside mids has been and is a big weakness. i suppose im talking quality here and the only one of quality is cotchin.
maybe it could be we just have too many who cant find enough ball when the pressure is on, just too outside, either way its a problem.
our first rounder just had to be on a genuine ball winning skillful mid we have to add to cotchin. im not sure lennon fits this bill. if hes to be a mid he looks more like a deledio than a cotchin.
atm to me we are screaming out for a scott thompson type lovely size hard at it and a inside ball winning machine. we need him ready in 3 yrs. could you imagine the damage cotchin would do with a thompson type along side.
you know as good a servant as tuck was and hes one of few i really liked despite the flaws, we had to up grade on him, yet our upgrade was most likely an even more defiicent player in matt thomas.
finally to compete you have to be able to win the ball first and foremost. i reckon we have too many who rely on others to get it to em.
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For goodness sakes :lol
Thompson is actually more outside than inside
Conca is very outside
Foley more outside
Jackson hmm maybe a fair bit inside to be fair...
Ive heard it all now..
FWIW know-it-all, just so you know, we are one of the best stoppage and clearance sides in the comp ::) NFI
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back on topic here :o . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.
mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward. ffs jake king is our regular sml forward. and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.
i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.
Before I comment, just want to check if there are any punctuation or grammatical errors in your post that may skew my interpretation?
im not ashamed to say my english is terrible i wouldnt have the faintest if im grammatically correct or not. but of course little minds will focus on little things. if you have something to say bud ffs say it.
if you want the truth? i couldnt give a fat rats hole what you do or say. no matter what happens you will interpret things as you like, so go ahead do your worst.im sure others may care what you post im not interested. nonsense is nonsense and its usually laughable.
as one who calls people narcissistic and as such claims not to be, you should know its not about you hanna.
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For goodness sakes :lol
Thompson is actually more outside than inside
Conca is very outside
Foley more outside
Jackson hmm maybe a fair bit inside to be fair...
Ive heard it all now..
FWIW know-it-all, just so you know, we are one of the best stoppage and clearance sides in the comp ::) NFI
is that it. hhhaarrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrggghghh hhhhaaarrrrgggghh, my 12 yr old niece could do better.
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back on topic here :o . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.
mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward. ffs jake king is our regular sml forward. and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.
i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.
Before I comment, just want to check if there are any punctuation or grammatical errors in your post that may skew my interpretation?
im not ashamed to say my english is terrible i wouldnt have the faintest if im grammatically correct or not. but of course little minds will focus on little things. if you have something to say bud ffs say it.
if you want the truth? i couldnt give a fat rats behindhole what you do or say. no matter what happens you will interpret things as you like, so go ahead do your worst.im sure others may care what you post im not interested. nonsense is nonsense and its usually laughable.
as one who calls people narcissistic and as such claims not to be, you should know its not about you hanna.
and if you were able to follow the gist of our disagreement you would realise that I really don't care about or judge people's grammar or spelling, I don't pay close attention to my own and don't ridicule people for theirs like some high brows on here do.. The ONLY reason I bring it up with you(tongue in cheek) was bc you used it as an excuse to cover your ridiculous comment about donut and I simply don't believe you.. But that doesn't suit your argument ey? You need to miss the point entirely. ..and what a strange comment that last one was
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may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
May i ask if this means as it reads? coz if it does, wtf does it come from?
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For goodness sakes :lol
Thompson is actually more outside than inside
Conca is very outside
Foley more outside
Jackson hmm maybe a fair bit inside to be fair...
Ive heard it all now..
FWIW know-it-all, just so you know, we are one of the best stoppage and clearance sides in the comp ::) NFI
is that it. hhhaarrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrggghghh hhhhaaarrrrgggghh, my 12 yr old niece could do better.
Yeah that's it or did I "purposely" miss something really obvious in that inane rant bc of a spelling error?
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back on topic here :o . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.
oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.
mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward. ffs jake king is our regular sml forward. and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.
i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.
I think the thing the club is trying to do is limit the number of guys who can only play inside mid. Vlastuin and Conca are probably the best examples. They are pure inside mids but we've played them off HB or off a wing to develop a well-rounded game. I think they will try develop some other areas of Miles game in the VFL. Thomas is what he is and having seen most of all their games so far I had Thomas slightly ahead. I've said in other threads Miles let himself down on the weekend, whilst Thomas played a really good game.
What I like best about him is he will bring an end to the "nice" Richmond. I think Vlastuin fits the bill here too.
Astbury and Griff for that matter are both in a make or break year. Someone can correct me here but I believe they are both in the last year of contracts? Griff given just the one. Both are actually playing like it. Some bloody urgency in Griff is fantastic.
If McDonough plays down back with Houli/Morris and bit of Dusty hopefully that means Flossy into the middle so that gives you another inside mid. Who knows what they end up doing with him. All our youngsters start there and then move elsewhere eventually. As for small forwards, Newman has looked really good there in the parts he's played. Doesn't need as many chances as King and Nahas because he doesn't waste them like they do. From what I've seen Lloyd is a fair way ahead of King and with Banfield now ineligible he's the one whose a chance. Kicked 2 from nothing in the VFL on the weekend.
I don't think it's that outrageous to tip GC. I think on paper we should be 4-0 after 4 rounds but do I trust our team to mentally be able to beat GC, Carlton and Collingwood. Not a chance in hell will I have faith until they start beating these teams regularly.
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Richmond's match committee faces selection headaches with several changes on the cards for Round 1
Herald-Sun
March 13, 2014
RICHMOND could make up to six changes to the team that flopped against Carlton in last year's elimination final as controversial small forward Jake King fights for a Round 1 berth.
The Tigers will name at least two debutants to play against Gold Coast on Saturday night in former Carlton ruckman Shaun Hampson and tagger Matt Thomas, and small defender Matt McDonough is locked in to play just his second game.
But it is the small forward positions that will cause heartburn at match committee given King's limited preparation of just one NAB Challenge game.
Journeyman small forward Sam Lloyd, recruited from VFL club Frankston, could nudge out King because of his forward pressure and nose for a goal.
Missing from the 20-point loss to the Blues will be Shane Tuck (retired), Daniel Jackson (groin), Ivan Maric (ankle), Dylan Grimes (hamstring) and potentially King and forward Aaron Edwards.
Former skipper Chris Newman has recovered from a knee scare and will play forward at Metricon Stadium, and coach Damien Hardwick is also keen to rotate his star midfielders through the forward line.
King had only seven touches and no tackles in the pre-season match against Collingwood, but Lloyd's kicking was at just 43 per cent efficiency in his two pre-season games.
The Tigers have no doubt King, who had off-season toe and shoulder surgery, is in their best 22 but in their Round 1 dress rehearsal on Friday, he played VFL and Lloyd, 24, was in the senior side.
King, who turns 30 this month, has a clause in his contract under which he is automatically handed a contract extension if he plays at least 12 games this season.
Ruckman Orren Stephenson was elevated from the rookie list on Tuesday but key tall Ben Griffiths was Hampson's deputy against Essendon at Punt Rd Oval on Friday.
Injury-prone tall David Astbury has locked down a key defensive post alongside Alex Rance and Troy Chaplin after outstanding pre-season form, and is likely to take Suns power forward Charlie Dixon.
Fellow tall defender Grimes is recovering from another hamstring setback and, while he played VFL on Friday, he is at long odds to play against the Suns.
Nathan Foley, surprisingly dropped for the Carlton final, starred for Richmond's VFL side last week.
Club champion Jackson will miss at least another week with a groin strain, allowing former Port Adelaide midfielder Thomas to get the job on Gary Ablett.
Jack Riewoldt made a successful return after soreness last week and played alongside Tyrone Vickery in a side with just two key forwards.
It means Edwards could miss out, despite kicking 2.2 in last year's finals loss.
Hardwick was thrilled with the successful return of Reece Conca last week from the hamstring injury he suffered against the Blues, and has already flagged him as a big improver this year.
The Tigers will hold a training session at Punt Rd Oval today for a clash they see as a definite danger game.
SELECTION TABLE
Richmond could have six changes from its losing elimination final side when it plays Gold Coast on Saturday night.
POSSIBLE INS
Matt McDonough, Shaun Hampson, Nathan Foley, Matt Thomas, Sam Lloyd, Ben Griffiths or Orren Stephenson, David Astbury
POSSIBLE OUTS
Dylan Grimes, Ivan Maric, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Aaron Edwards, Jake King
www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-match-committee-faces-selection-headaches-with-several-changes-on-the-cards-for-round-1/story-fndv8t7m-122685293560
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im not ashamed to say my english is terrible i wouldnt have the faintest if im grammatically correct or not. but of course little minds will focus on little things.
Grammatically you could use some help.
But your posts are easy enough to understand.
:thumbsup
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Richmond's match committee faces selection headaches with several changes on the cards for Round 1
SELECTION TABLE
Richmond could have six changes from its losing elimination final side when it plays Gold Coast on Saturday night.
POSSIBLE INS
Matt McDonough, Shaun Hampson, Nathan Foley, Matt Thomas, Sam Lloyd, Ben Griffiths or Orren Stephenson, David Astbury
POSSIBLE OUTS
Dylan Grimes, Ivan Maric, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Aaron Edwards, Jake King
www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-match-committee-faces-selection-headaches-with-several-changes-on-the-cards-for-round-1/story-fndv8t7m-122685293560
Going by this the side will look something like:
B: Morris Rance Astbury
HB: Martin Chaplin Houli
C: Ellis Cotchin Conca
HF: Newman Riewoldt S.Edwards
F: Griffiths Vickery Lloyd
R: Hampson Deledio Thomas
Int: Grigg, Vlastuin, McDonough
Sub: Foley
Emg: Petterd, King, Stephenson
Injured: Maric, Jackson, Lennon.
Underdone: Grimes, Knights.
Overlooked: A.Edwards, Dea, Batchelor, Helbig, McIntosh, McBean, Gordon, Elton, O'Hanlon, Arnot, Banfield#, Miles#, Williams#, Darrou#
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I understand where you are coming from claw but we still remain a strong contested side regardless. Jackson had the same contested ball average as Tuck did in 2013 on 9.5 and S.Edwards was only marginally behind them with an average of 9.3 contested balls per game. Cotch was clearly best with an average of 11.8 a game but that still only ranks him 19th in the league.
I believe that Vlaustin and Conca will make excellent inside mids who can spread. Foley does need to spend or time winning the ball as he has lost a yard of pace but is creative by hand. Thomas is a ball winning machine when he is given that role but he has often been played as a tagger in previous years which has forced much of his possessions outside and his tackle numbers up as you would expect with that role.
Miles is a pure ball winner and I was hoping we would have elevated him into the side for all the reasons you have expressed. Against teams like Carlton, Collingwood, North and Geelong last year our contested ball numbers were exposed so I would like more ball winners groomed for these team match-ups if for nothing else.
I don't think we are as bad off as you fear but we do need some of our better young mids to step up and start assisting Cotch this year I grant you :cheers
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Possible outs "Shane Tuck"???? Damn! :lol I had him lined up for my dream team. :banghead
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Possible outs "Shane Tuck"???? Damn! :lol I had him lined up for my dream team. :banghead
:lol
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Possible outs "Shane Tuck"???? Damn! :lol I had him lined up for my dream team. :banghead
No Taylor Petrenko as a possible in?
There must have been a loophole in his contract that meant he couldn't leave Norf??
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Richmond's match committee faces selection headaches with several changes on the cards for Round 1
SELECTION TABLE
Richmond could have six changes from its losing elimination final side when it plays Gold Coast on Saturday night.
POSSIBLE INS
Matt McDonough, Shaun Hampson, Nathan Foley, Matt Thomas, Sam Lloyd, Ben Griffiths or Orren Stephenson, David Astbury
POSSIBLE OUTS
Dylan Grimes, Ivan Maric, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Aaron Edwards, Jake King
www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-match-committee-faces-selection-headaches-with-several-changes-on-the-cards-for-round-1/story-fndv8t7m-122685293560
Going by this the side will look something like:
B: Morris Rance Astbury
HB: Martin Chaplin Houli
C: Ellis Cotchin Conca
HF: Newman Riewoldt S.Edwards
F: Griffiths Vickery Lloyd
R: Hampson Deledio Thomas
Int: Grigg, Vlastuin, McDonough
Sub: Foley
Emg: Petterd, King, Stephenson
Injured: Maric, Jackson, Lennon.
Underdone: Grimes, Knights.
Overlooked: A.Edwards, Dea, Batchelor, Helbig, McIntosh, McBean, Gordon, Elton, O'Hanlon, Arnot, Banfield#, Miles#, Williams#, Darrou#
Worried about griggster
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Worried about griggster
Dont be
He's a Dimma favourite, he'll play ;D
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Worried about griggster
Dont be
He's a Dimma favourite, he'll play ;D
:lol :thumbsup
I actually think he's earned a round 1 gig this time and a Grigg basher from way back :shh
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My worry is not if grigg will be selected or not
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My worry is not if grigg will be selected or not
He will get selected so I suppose we should worry about whether he's going to bother doing any gut running or if he just does his normal jog along with the odd bit of coralling thrown in ;D
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King did not make the above 22
Thoughts?
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Grigg is a gun......That fires consistently on a 65 degree trajectory. ;D
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Teams? :(
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Just heard Dimmas presser on SEN, said Jake king was an unlikely starter this week but maintained he was still a best 22 player that was underdone at this stage.
Said they would decide if Big O played this week amongst other selection headaches in the match committee meeting after this arvos training session.
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Hes not gun a go on radio and say he's our 35th best option
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Hes not gun a go on radio and say he's our 35th best option
Hes not going to openly lie about it either, he just wouldn't say it in those words, probably just say hes still an important member of our group etc
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Yes he would
Any good manager will talk up his player for confidence and team unity is. Sir ALEX FERGUSON
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Feguson routinely slammed his players in public.
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Grigg is a gun......That fires consistently on a 65 degree trajectory. ;D
;D
Terrific, just terrific TM
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Grigg is a gun......That fires consistently on a 65 degree trajectory. ;D
The Grigg 65:
(http://mattpusateri.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/gun-art.jpeg)
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certainly has the entire AFL world scratching its head wondering how someone so crap at football consistently racks up 20-30 touches
matt white was doing it wrong, you need to get worse to find more of the ball :cheers
::)
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Feguson routinely slammed his players in public.
correct
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I would too if they were playing like a busted behind and still raking in 200K a game and prancing around in their ferrari's like nobody's business.
Grigga's salary would pale in comparison. Don't shoot the waterboy I say.
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Feguson routinely slammed his players in public.
correct
Examples pls
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certainly has the entire AFL world scratching its head wondering how someone so crap at football consistently racks up 20-30 touches
matt white was doing it wrong, you need to get worse to find more of the ball :cheers
::)
That's one reason king may in trouble
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Feguson routinely slammed his players in public.
correct
Examples pls
Beckham, Ince, Keane, Berba
As an MU supporter surely you know Fergusons mantra was tough love
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Gold Coast will have three debutants - Clay Cameron, Jack Martin and Sean Lemmens.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-13/three-new-suns-to-rise
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Preview: Gold Coast v Richmond
Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
March 12, 2014 1:25 PM
TWO OF the most exciting young teams in the competition will match up in round one at Metricon Stadium. Although Richmond is a couple of years ahead in terms of development - they played finals last season for the first time since 2001 - the Suns will see themselves as a good chance of sneaking a win here. Although the midfield match-up between Gary Ablett and Trent Cotchin will rightfully take most of the attention, there are a number of young stars littered all over the ground. Dustin Martin, Reece Conca and Brandon Ellis should square off nicely against Dion Prestia, Harley Bennell and Jaeger O'Meara. It is also young Sun Jack Martin's first appearance.
WHERE AND WHEN: Metricon Stadium, Saturday March 15, 6.40pm
LAST FIVE TIMES
R16, 2013, Richmond 6.17 (53) d Gold Coast 6.8 (44) at Cazalys Stadium
R16, 2012, Gold Coast 13.12 (90) d Richmond 13.10 (88) at Cazalys Stadium
R17, 2011, Gold Coast 12.13 (85) d Richmond 9.16 (70) at Cazalys Stadium
THE SIX POINTS
1. After two previous losses at Cairns' Cazalys Stadium, Richmond broke its duck against Gold Coast last time, winning by nine points.
2. No team laid less tackles in 2013 than Richmond, who were ranked 18th with just 56 tackles per game. Gold Coast were ranked 13th with 60 per game.
3. Richmond was one of the best marking teams in the competition last year, ranked third, while the Suns struggled and were ranked 16th.
4. Gold Coast is starting to make Metricon Stadium a legitimate home ground advantage, winning six of its 11 matches there in 2013. They had won only two of 19 in 2011-12.
5. Richmond has not played at Metricon Stadium since 2009, and have not won there since 1991, when they defeated the Brisbane Bears by seven points.
6. Gary Ablett starts the season ranked No.1 on the AFL Official Player Ratings with a big gap back to Adelaide's Patrick Dangerfield. Trent Cotchin is the highest placed Tiger at No.36.
Prediction: Richmond by 12 points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-12/preview-gold-cost-v-richmond
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what time does the match start?
6:40 or 7:40?
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Snip! ::)
what time does the match start?
6:40 or 7:40?
6.40pm Gold Coast (Qld) time.
7.40pm EST.
http://www.afl.com.au/broadcastguide
LOL Heppell still being bitter about Dusty rag-dolling him last week so he tips the Suns :wallywink.
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Round 1 preview
Midfield Coach Danny Daly speaks to Mathew Richardson ahead of the Round 1 clash against the Gold Coast Suns.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-03-13/spotlight-on-round-1
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Snip! ::)
what time does the match start?
6:40 or 7:40?
6.40pm Gold Coast (Qld) time.
7.40pm EST.
http://www.afl.com.au/broadcastguide
LOL Heppell still being bitter about Dusty rag-dolling him last week so he tips the Suns :wallywink.
Thomas sat him on his arse too ;D
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Ken had to console her for hours after last week's game.
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I've said in other threads Miles let himself down on the weekend
Didn't he get named in the bests?
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I've said in other threads Miles let himself down on the weekend
Didn't he get named in the bests?
Don't think so , but nonetheless, one lacklustre VFL practice match > two good AFL practice matches apparently. Unless, in the wake of all the hype around him and failing to understand the basic concept of pre-season rotations, he sooked it up at getting sent back or something.
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I've said in other threads Miles let himself down on the weekend
Didn't he get named in the bests?
Not sure. He was unsighted 90% of the game :whistle
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I've said in other threads Miles let himself down on the weekend
Didn't he get named in the bests?
Don't think so , but nonetheless, one lacklustre VFL practice match > two good AFL practice matches apparently. Unless, in the wake of all the hype around him and failing to understand the basic concept of pre-season rotations, he sooked it up at getting sent back or something.
No but Thomas with 1 good VFL and 2 good AFL > 1 poor VFL and 2 good AFL. If Miles played well on Friday then I don't think it's a given that Thomas gets the gig.
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The Suns will host competition heavyweights Richmond in round 1 at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-is-targeting-the-nrl-with-a-new-pre-season-tournament/story-fndv8d6r-1226748499170
Maybe not yet but it does have a nice sound to it.
:cheers
I agree, sounds awesome.
:cheers :thumbsup
And as Eddie said this morning on MMM, you (Richmond) do have a soft draw.
Mick Malloy followed up with yeah you're right Eddie, cos we do play the pies twice.
Awesome talk back :scream :cheers :thumbsup
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The Suns will host competition heavyweights Richmond in round 1 at Metricon Stadium on March 15.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-is-targeting-the-nrl-with-a-new-pre-season-tournament/story-fndv8d6r-1226748499170
Maybe not yet but it does have a nice sound to it
:cheers
I agree, sounds awesome.
:cheers :thumbsup
And as Eddie said this morning on MMM, you (Richmond) do have a soft draw.
Mick Malloy followed up with yeah you're right Eddie, cos we do play the pies twice.
Awesome talk back :scream :cheers :thumbsup
Got to love Micky Malloy :clapping
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And as Eddie said this morning on MMM, you (Richmond) do have a soft draw.
Mick Malloy followed up with yeah you're right Eddie, cos we do play the pies twice.
Awesome talk back :scream :cheers :thumbsup
If only it was true ::)
Got to love Micky Malloy :clapping
Errr no
But each to there own :P
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Yeah u wouldn't like mick :-*
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And as Eddie said this morning on MMM, you (Richmond) do have a soft draw.
Mick Malloy followed up with yeah you're right Eddie, cos we do play the pies twice.
Awesome talk back :scream :cheers :thumbsup
If only it was true ::)
Miss the game last night did we, because I don't think Eddie did :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Does as anyone know if there is any truth to a rumour I heard just now from some mates that cotch and ty didn't make the trip up?
They are tiger supporters also.
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Does as anyone know if there is any truth to a rumour I heard just now from some mates that cotch and ty didn't make the trip up?
They are tiger supporters also.
Wasn't there an open training session yesterday? Reckon something might have been said then if they weren't there.
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cool thanks Dwaino..makes sense what you say
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A mate took a clip on the iPhone of cotch practicing snaps on goal at metricon after training, I can categorically deny that scurrilous rumor :dancing
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Does as anyone know if there is any truth to a rumour I heard just now from some mates that cotch and ty didn't make the trip up?
They are tiger supporters also.
Wasn't there an open training session yesterday? Reckon something might have been said then if they weren't there.
Both def here & trained yesterday
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Cheers guys :clapping
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A win is a must against this mob & we better not go into the game thinking its going to be a easy game. l dont care how we win, as long as we bring home the 4 points is all that matters :gotigers
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A win is a must against this mob & we better not go into the game thinking its going to be a easy game. l dont care how we win, as long as we bring home the 4 points is all that matters :gotigers
Tigermonk right on cue, just before round one. Posts until our first loss then is out of here til this time next year
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If they have that attitude the they can go stuff themselves.
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Game delayed until 7.55pm. We're giving their injured guys a bit of extra time so we can play them at full strength.
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It's cold here FFS! It's like fricken Melbourne!! :banghead
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Game delayed until 7.55pm. We're giving their injured guys a bit of extra time so we can play them at full strength.
I thought you were joking :lol. It really has been delayed.
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SATURDAY night's Gold Coast-Richmond match will start 15 minutes later than scheduled after a massive electrical storm at the afternoon game between Greater Western Sydney and the Sydney Swans caused a 25-minute delay at quarter-time.
The Suns and Tigers clash was originally scheduled to start at 7.40pm AEDT, but will now commence at 7.55pm.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-15/suns-tigers-start-delayed-after-sydney-storm
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@AFL twitter:
Final teams #AFLSunsTigers - No changes.
Subs:
Sumner (GoldCoastSUNS)
Foley (Richmond_FC)
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Going by the warm up Foley the sub
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When playing interstate it's important to start well. This is a danger game so we can't be complacent and not bring our full intensity at the footy.
:gotigers
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Yep, looks like cotchin ain't playing. Did the toss and off the ground :wallywink
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Great play Tiges. Flossy goal :gotigers.
Rich 6
GC 0
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Same old Arseberry.
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Astbury >:(
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It's dumb soft goals like that make you do this :banghead.
Poor handball backwards at half-back and then Astbury tries to baulk 20m out when he should have just bombed it down the line.
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Useless, upgrade Darrou ffs.
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Gee whiz :banghead
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Don't let it bounce Rance :scream.
Two dumb plays = two soft goals.
Rich 6
GC 13
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Dimma must be doing his head in in the box. Soft as so far!
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Same dumb poo from the same dumb players.
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Does Morris get an assist for that goal?
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:help
Ballwatching, second to the pill and when we do get it we are handball mad.
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Oh dear! Now dropping basic chestmarks.
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Underestimated this team we have :banghead
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Terrible just terrible >:(
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matt thomas. hehe
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Fumble, fumble, fumble and the worst sin in footy (going to ground in the contest) :banghead.
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Trying to be too cute at times
Kick the ball
And gee the plans for Junior. Do we have one?
Interesting the ones who starred in the pre -season are the ones who really look a yard behind play.
Petterd goal
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It's the sideshow Bob show.
All hail Vickery. He's a laugh a minute. :chuck :chuck
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Underestimated this team we have :banghead
It's us. Not working hard enough.
Petterd gets a free plus 50 = goal.
Rich 12
GC 27
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Just giving the negative nancies something to post about for another week.
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Griffiths has looked better than the cameo King Tyrone
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Vickery - drop chest mark, fumbles the gsther, shanks handball....
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McDonut struggling with the pace of the game
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Cotchin keeping up those dinky kicks :clapping
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Lucky Sam Day can't kick.
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Morris has hurt his shoulder :-\
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Morris gorn
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Not sure why Griffs went back when he could have run in. Misses the set shot.
13 - 28
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LOL at Cameo King Tyrone calling for Griff to pass it to him.
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So holding the ball is no longer a rule ::).
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That should have been holding the ball.
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Gee whiz :banghead
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:chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck
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Terrible by the Tiges so far
Lack of intensity, chasing tails, poor decisions, poor skills
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Close to the best passage of play right there
Certainly best kick of the night by Dusty
Jack goals
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LOL Grigg not wanting to kick.
Siren. Jack kick after it. Goal :gotigers
1/4 time.
Richmond 3.1-19
Gold Coast 5.4-34
Goals: Riewoldt, Petterd, Vlastuin
Lucky to be just 15 points down. Pathetic!
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:clapping
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Everyone quick to beat up on the whipping boys. Getting tired of Cotchin's dinky floating handballs and kicks.
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Turnovers killed us in that quarter. Too many handballs missing targets. Poor tackling.
We need to turn this around quickly.
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It's not often is say this about a tiger player but I'm disgusted by Vickery in that qtr. hickory vickerys a cock someone dump that dumb bastard off at the next block
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Everyone quick to beat up on the whipping boys. Getting tired of Cotchin's dinky floating handballs and kicks.
Yep taken up from where he left off :laugh:
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They are running so much harder than us, they chase every overlap. Hope we can settle and turn it around
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It's not often is say this about a tiger player but I'm disgusted by Vickery in that qtr. hickory vickerys a cock someone dump that dumb bastard off at the next block
Welcome to world of the Cameo King
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Richmond show ponied
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I was about to say, 15 points is a good result after that qtr, then we let them waltz to an easy goal within 10 secs of the restart ::)
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Terrible miss by Newy
Had more time
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Remind me agian why we traded our second round pick for Hamspud?
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Newy skims a point.
20 - 40
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Dimma doesn't look pleased ;D
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It's not often is say this about a tiger player but I'm disgusted by Vickery in that qtr. hickory vickerys a cock someone dump that dumb bastard off at the next block
When Hardwick said he expected 40 goals from Ty he actually meant 4.
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I missed the first 20 mins and I've seen Vickery caught behind May 4 times, get on your bike son!
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At least big Griff is playing in front
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Make that 5 ::)
Yep Griff is presenting
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Tyrone
Terrific, just terrific TM
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Tyrone just look at Jack there. That's how to get the front position
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Jack misses.
21 - 41
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Get Vickery orf
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They got the cheer squad umpiring up there or something?
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Go home Vickery.
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Get Vickery orf
Yep been inept
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stuff me those umpires pay every stuffing dinky bs free to them but we get nuthin...
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Vickery's a disgrace....how much longer is Hardwick going to continue tolerating stupid, lazy pricks like him?
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vickery has been arse all night, always behind, not reading the play well at all.
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Need the next one, just sense we're starting to stifle their run a bit
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And people wonder why Vickery gets bagged
Pathetic so far
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Cotchy :gotigers
Rich 29
GC 41
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stuff me those umpires pay every stuffing dinky bs free to them but we get nuthin...
Say it again
since this statement we've had about 7 frees in a row :clapping ;D
Cotch goal lets go boys
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...and that kiddies, is why Cotchin is not a whipping boy and others are.....
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HOoray TV took a mark :lol
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:gobdrop :gobdrop
Tyrone takes a mark and goals
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Great tackle Matt Thomas, smashed ablett, that's his goal
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Side show bob slots a redemption, needs a few more
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And got the goal :gotigers
Rich 35
GC 43
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Hopefully we've all put the reverse mock on him....
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We actually won a centre clearance and kicked it long :o
Titch poster.
36 - 43
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WTF!
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Reckon Hampson been alright BTw
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Well done McDonut well done
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Can anyone tell me why Houli didn't keep going?
Poor decision
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Vickery behind again.
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Grigg you twit :rollin :rollin
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Ablett exempt from giving away frees.
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Some good chasing by Ty and big Griff towards the end there.
Good fight back tiges, hopefully the early sub for GC will hurt them in the second half
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Better, Much better Tigers :clapping
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Half-time
Richmond 3.1 5.6-36
Gold Coast 5.4 6.7-43
Goals: Riewoldt, Vlastuin, Petterd, Vickery, Cotchin.
Not pretty but we've just been able to stay in the game slowing and grinding it down.
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Can anyone tell me why Houli didn't keep going?
Poor decision
Thought he'd have learnt from the elimination final
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The difference it makes when your forwards actually run & chase.....
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Junior standing back from the packs to get the cheap outside kick
Back in it but struth need to keep focused
Can anyone tell me why Houli didn't keep going?
Poor decision
Thought he'd have learnt from the elimination final
Clearly not >:(
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Can anyone tell me why Houli didn't keep going?
Poor decision
Thought he'd have learnt from the elimination final
Yes, Richmond players are known for being quick learners...
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Im not happy
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GWS Amazing result
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The difference it makes when your forwards actually run & chase.....
I'd still like to see one of them in particular play in front.
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Playing dumb, no confidence, no attacking football!
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The difference it makes when your forwards actually run & chase.....
I'd still like to see one of them in particular play in front.
x2
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The difference it makes when your forwards actually run & chase.....
I'd still like to see one of them in particular play in front.
x2
x 3
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Suns down to two on the bench. Dixon out with concussion.
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The difference it makes when your forwards actually run & chase.....
I'd still like to see one of them in particular play in front.
The capacity to do both shouldn't be beyond any modern AFL forward worth their salt.
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Yep footys back. I'm stressed !
we're battling back into it. Look a whole lot better when our full forward plays at full forward. Get it down to Jack !
Cotch has been excellent. Bit scratchy early tho. Matt Thomas good. Houli very good.
Big third qtr coming up !
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Hooray TV actually in front position ;D
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Goal Griff
Brilliant kick
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Big Ben ding dong :gotigers
Rich 42
GC 43
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Dumb Thomas, it's a free because you ducked your head
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Major opportunity stuffed up there
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Argh!! Titch misses.
43 - 44
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Shocking kick Morris, terrible
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Why wasn't that a free to Conca?
Front on contact in the marking contest
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So you can now run front on in a player going for a mark ::).
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Why handball when you can kick to a teammate in defence?!!! :banghead.
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Vickery back to being behind :scream
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Wow!
Tyrone behind his man AGAIN :banghead
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Donut has a dip
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Well gee didn't that 3-4 mins of tempo footy worked a treat ::)
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Stupid by Grigg that free
Suns should have goaled there
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Junior kicks a goal
:banghead
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First the kick-out was to the wrong side (Houli was wide open at 50m on the left side) and then we lose the 2-1 marking contest and gift them a goal :banghead
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This is pretty bad. Looking sloppy and lazy
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What game are you watching umpire? That was a throw! :banghead
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For crying out loud that should have been a free to Dusty :banghead :banghead
No bloody attempt to dispose of it
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Make the bloody sub!
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:gobdrop
Newy, he's out there?
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How dumb at ground level are we in the forward line :banghead.
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Bloody Tyrone :banghead
Again
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Griff subbed out for foley
Griffith the scapegoat for Tyrone
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My god the love our coach has for Vickery is stuffing pooting me. He should have been subbed off not griff
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No excuse for leaving Vickery on. Not even a structural argument. Griffiths could have more than covered his role.
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scary spot to be in, 5 minutes of ablett magic and it's game over
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Yep, faith does funny things to people in the Middle East......and our coaches box
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3/4 time
Richmond 3.1 5.6 6.7-43
Gold Coast 5.4 6.7 7.13-55
Goals: Riewoldt, Petterd, Vlastuin, Vickery, Cotchin, Griffiths
So frustrating getting the ball inside forward 50 and allowing them to eventually clear because we aren't clean and are fumbling at ground level :banghead.
Lucky they are kicking inaccurately too.
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Yep the favourites, always survive the red vest
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Griff subbed out for foley
Griffith the scapegoat for Tyrone
How Tyrone was not subbed is beyond me? Caught behind in every contest, cant take a mark when he does get free, taking to long when he does have the ball to do something with it... Tyrone is useless.
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Agree. Reckon they've subbed the wrong player. TV should have been benched, not Griff.
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Add to that Griff is better up forward and when he goes into the ruck :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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I predict a good old fashioned OER meltdown in around 30 mins
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Really when you think about it; it's no surprise the cameo king remains
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Got belted around the stoppages that qtr.Not handling the conditions as well as they are
Good sides win from here
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That quarter was even worse than our first...had GC kicked straight we'd be down by 40.
Forward line completely disfunctional, no composure, no plan, no chance. GC mopping up and rebounding with ease.
Sick of seeing Grigg trailing opponents waiving his arms, sick of Houli's inabilty to make good, quick decisions. Sick of talls who can't take a contested mark to save their lives.
...and Martin's never going to break the game open from half-back.
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That as pathetic, lucky we weren't buried.
If you want it tiges, take the stuffing game on instead of this bs tempo footy
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Cotch u star!
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Titch goals
Thanks Cotch
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Awesome Cotch :clapping
Titch goal :gotigers
Rich 49
GC 55
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Lazy Jack. Pick it up.
50 - 55
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Has there ever been an afl fwd who has been caught behind in one game more than Ty tonight?
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Dusty you star
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Dustyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :gotigers
Rich 56
GC 55
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Dusty u star
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I hope Tyrone does hear your commentary Darcy, you summed him up perfectly
Jist need to add his been pathetic
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Another break out of our forward line :banghead.
56 - 61
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Terrible Tiges, no defensive pressure inside f50
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Gee Newy's been terrible tonight
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He's always terrible
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Easy clearance from our f50 again :banghead :banghead
We really don't deserve to win this, we've been clueless all night
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Vickery's spilt marks setting up GC's attacks beautifully.
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Another one :banghead.
They've only got one play. Petterd just had to hold him up at half-back.
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This is incredibly embarrassing that they are outrunning us
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Apparently we have an extra man on the bench and should have the legs. You wouldn't think so ::).
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Reckon Clawski might be having a quiet chuckle right now
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So many have gone missing tonight
Just proves if we are not switched on we will still struggle against anyone
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Who is our stuffing fwd line coach?
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Geez we are dumb.
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Geez we are dumb.
You're too kind
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Dunno what Chaplin has been doing either .... useless!
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Also coach might be having a sneaky guffaw
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Close to being absolutely stuffed now
Relieved I didn't make the trip ;D
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Getting over this. Harder and harder to watch every year. Other teams have fallen and come back in the time it has taken us to be a middle of the road team.
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We just don't have enough skilled players or smart players.
Also no surprise we're getting caught out for pace ...we were slow as it was when White was still on the list.
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Hey Jack, bend over and pick up the ball u clown just once
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Game over. Going to bed, I love Vickery
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Unacceptable they are one rotation down
Game set match I reckon
Just don't look like getting back now
Too many players believing the articles in the press
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Out run by a bunch of kids with two less rotations.
RFC fitness staff as useless as ever.
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A summary of this game.
Richmond kicks it forward to a pack.
Ground level players either fly for the ball or wait behind the back instead of front of square as we were all taught as kids.
Gold Coast defenders punch the ball forward their way to waiting Suns ground level players.
They run it up the other end into an open forward line and goal.
:banghead
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Dare I say it, we've missed Kingy big time up forward
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As I asked, who is our stuffing fwd coach?
So so disappointing
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TV you're paid to kick goals not pass them off inside 50.
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Lolz
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That was on vickery. I would have kicked the ball into vickery's head.
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Goal to TV.
62 - 81
6 mins to go.
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As I asked, who is our stuffing fwd coach?
So so disappointing
B Lade is our FWD coach
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I know Vickery just kicked a goal but if we are to take the next step we really need him to improve.
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Thanks WP, pretty woeful setup tonight, kick to packs no one front and centre, no stretching
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What's all this I read about the players being gutted after the finals loss?
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I know Vickery just kicked a goal but if we are to take the next step we really need him to improve.
For him to improve we cannot/should not gift him games in the hope he will improve or fulfil the ability he supposedly has. Needs a kick up backside and if that means the VFl then just do it
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Wy didn't Martin have a shot? I thought we would have learned from the final, it's not just Houli it's a poo team rule!
Have the balls to take responsibility and have a ping!
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Lids goal.
69 - 81
3 mins to go.
Only got ourselves to blame dropping this one.
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How many straightforward handball targets have we missed tonight :banghead
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Why wasn't that a free to Dusty :banghead
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Dusty had his head ripped off in front of goal and no free :banghead
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Petterd dropped his head and dropped the mark and now GC shoot it fwd
Another pet gifted games
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But Juniot gets a free
Geeezzzzzzz
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stuffen chipscabbing little bald idiot
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How the stuff is that a fckin free when they haven't been paying it all bloody night. pee off maggots
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Great to see there still is one set of rules for Junior and another set for all other players in the comp
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You idiots umpires. Is Geisch back in charge ::).
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Yep was a free to dusty but did u see petterd drop his head drop the mark at half fwd? GC quickly went fwd from that and now goaled
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3 votes GC
Tyrone Vickery
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Us being poo is why we lost , not the umpires being poo - they're always poo and if you're good enough they shouldn't make a difference.
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Us being poo is why we lost , not the umpires being poo - they're always poo and if you're good enough they shouldn't make a difference.
Agree, no point bitching abt umps, we were pathetic
Pathetic pitman pathetic
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Us being poo is why we lost , not the umpires being poo - they're always poo and if you're good enough they shouldn't make a difference.
Agree, no point bitching abt umps, we were pathetic
Pathetic pitman pathetic
Agreed
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Got what we deserved
Poor attitude from the first bounce, you pay the price
Simple as that
Pathetic performance, not much to get positive about
So much for a soft draw, draw has no advantage if you don't come to play as they say
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Only two words for tonight's loss - pathetic and soft!
Richmond 3.1 5.6 6.7 10.9-69
Gold Coast 5.4 6.7 7.13 12.15-87
Goals: Vickery 2, Riewoldt, Griffiths, Vlastuin, Petterd, Cotchin, Martin, S.Edwards, Deledio
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Yep Ablett gets away with everything but he is the best player in the comp by far. Gold Coast showed us up all over the ground and we should have been belted by more...thank god for Cotch & Lids as this was an insipid display from us. >:(
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To be honest the GC should of beaten us by more.
I know Vickery just kicked a goal but if we are to take the next step we really need him to improve.
For him to improve we cannot/should not gift him games in the hope he will improve or fulfil the ability he supposedly has. Needs a kick up backside and if that means the VFl then just do it
His ruck work must be saving him from being dropped. Once Ivan is back it could give the chance to drop him if he hasn't lifted his game.
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You can't possibly win a game if you're disposals are absolutely c r a p.
as well as contesting a ball in flight, 3 men up nobody down for most of the match, disgraceful. :banghead
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Yep Ablett gets away with everything but he is the best player in the comp by far. Gold Coast showed us up all over the ground and we should have been belted by more...thank god for Cotch & Lids as this was an insipid display from us. >:(
GC will make the finals if this is just the start of what we are going to see, there's some great kids out there for the GC tonight.
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To be honest the GC should of beaten us by more.
I know Vickery just kicked a goal but if we are to take the next step we really need him to improve.
For him to improve we cannot/should not gift him games in the hope he will improve or fulfil the ability he supposedly has. Needs a kick up backside and if that means the VFl then just do it
His ruck work must be saving him from being dropped. Once Ivan is back it could give the chance to drop him if he hasn't lifted his game.
But he hardly went into the ruck tonight, so that's not an excuse for him.
He was shocking tonight
At least he led us in that tonight, being crap and pathetic. Showed everyone how that's done :clapping :clapping
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We went in too tall.
What happened to Miles and Lloyd as late inclusions?
:banghead
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Yep was a free to dusty but did u see petterd drop his head drop the mark at half fwd? GC quickly went fwd from that and now goaled
Sent gerks a text after that. All the message said was 'Petterd', he would have known ;D Where is BJ?? Isn't Petard meant to be a rabid dog or something?
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Can we please start a collection to buy Houli, Rance and Chaplin some decent boots, never seen the same players fall over so often when contesting the ball. We lost tonight due to our poor handling, lack of run (GC were down two players) and our inability to take a contested mark. GC on the other hand kick long to a one on one and got easy goals. Think it was a selection error not having Lloyd in the side, had no real dangerous small forward, GC rebounded way too easy. Back to the drawing board for Hardwick, really need to look at our forward structure. Seems at the moment that even running into an open goal they are still looking for a handball option, just kick the bleeding thing!! :banghead
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Yep was a free to dusty but did u see petterd drop his head drop the mark at half fwd? GC quickly went fwd from that and now goaled
Sent gerks a text after that. All the message said was 'Petterd', he would have known ;D Where is BJ?? Isn't Petard meant to be a rabid dog or something?
The question is why guys like Dea aren't taking his spot from him?
Development has always been a concern in the past but with the resources we have now we need to start showing consistent improvement in the youngsters. The jury is still out IMO.
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Think l just watched the worst game of my life. Whats with all this short kicks. :banghead
l knew if we took this game lightly we would be beat. Too many players who need to wake up. :banghead
disgraceful performance :banghead
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Banfield was the perfect player for tonight's conditions however, they decided that Stephenson deserved the upgrade...why? massive blunder upgrading an old fossil like him when we need leg speed.
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Banfield was the perfect player for tonight's conditions however, they decided that Stephenson deserved the upgrade...why? massive blunder upgrading an old fossil like him when we need leg speed.
The Big O has probably been upgraded because they know we can't rely on Tyrone to offer anything in the ruck let alone up forward ;D
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Yep Ablett gets away with everything but he is the best player in the comp by far.
The whole GC Suns gameplan is basically give it to Gary, and it's almost impossible to stop.
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Think l just watched the worst game of my life. Whats with all this short kicks. :banghead
l knew if we took this game lightly we would be beat. Too many players who need to wake up. :banghead
disgraceful performance :banghead
oh cmon monksy. we didnt take the gme lightly please no excuses there arent any.
beaten by melb pre season and now gcs in the season proper in a disgraceful performance. if anyone still has any misgivings about how even the comp is, then those doubts should now be dispelled.
the 22 we fielded tonight will struggle to make the 8.
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You can't possibly win a game if you're disposals are absolutely c r a p.
as well as contesting a ball in flight, 3 men up nobody down for most of the match, disgraceful. :banghead
Bingo!
Amateur hour out there tonight especially our play up forward both offensively with crap skill and (non-existent) defensive pressure. Soft as butter after hitting the front we allow easy counterattack goals out of our forward line :banghead. Then add we had an extra man on the bench to rotate for most of the night and yet they still overrun us. Soft and lazy crap! :banghead.
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You can't possibly win a game if you're disposals are absolutely c r a p.
as well as contesting a ball in flight, 3 men up nobody down for most of the match, disgraceful. :banghead
Bingo!
Amateur hour out there tonight especially our play up forward both offensively with crap skill and (non-existent) defensive pressure. Soft as butter after hitting the front we allow easy counterattack goals out of our forward line :banghead. Then add we had an extra man on the bench to rotate for most of the night and yet they still overrun us. Soft and lazy crap! :banghead.
:clapping
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Yep was a free to dusty but did u see petterd drop his head drop the mark at half fwd? GC quickly went fwd from that and now goaled
Sent gerks a text after that. All the message said was 'Petterd', he would have known ;D Where is BJ?? Isn't Petard meant to be a rabid dog or something?
The question is why guys like Dea aren't taking his spot from him?
Development has always been a concern in the past but with the resources we have now we need to start showing consistent improvement in the youngsters. The jury is still out IMO.
Well on Dea's case he's been injured, first game back today via the VFL
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dea is as useless as anyone else on our list.
forget him
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And now Ch7 is playing that vile membership song
Can the evening get any worse
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Well at least we are guaranteed a win next week
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Well at least we are guaranteed a win next week
We would even lose an intraclub if we play like we did tonight.
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Think l just watched the worst game of my life. Whats with all this short kicks. :banghead
l knew if we took this game lightly we would be beat. Too many players who need to wake up. :banghead
disgraceful performance :banghead
oh cmon monksy. we didnt take the gme lightly please no excuses there arent any.
beaten by melb pre season and now gcs in the season proper in a disgraceful performance. if anyone still has any misgivings about how even the comp is, then those doubts should now be dispelled.
the 22 we fielded tonight will struggle to make the 8.
that 22 wont be taking the field next week l can tell you that
that whole performance was disgraceful from 21 players involved including the coaching staff. We could not over run 20 players Thomas l thought was the only solid performer in perfect conditions, Just goes to show what sort of wake up needs to be done down there. l dont like chip kicking football & over use & everyone up. Astbury is a terrible footballer as is Edwards
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And now Ch7 is playing that vile membership song
Can the evening get any worse
l mute it everytime l hear it. its terrible
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That game reminded me of the Port game in Darwin a few years back. The ball was like soap for us but GC handled it easily. That's where we mostly lost it I reckon. Easy marks slipping through hands. Failing to 'one grab' it off the turf all night. That combined with one of the worst performances from a key fwd I've ever seen. Vickery will be in the team next match we all know that so it's payback time Ty. You need to kick a bag against Carlton
Not many positives. Hampson and Thomas were ok in their first game. McDonough got better as he got used to the pace.
Plenty of negatives. Vickery obviously , Conca was poor , Foley ? Hmmm he might be done.Grigg can't or won't tackle.
Oh well , gotta beat Carlton in 2 weeks. No effin excuses.
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That game reminded me of the Port game in Darwin a few years back. The ball was like soap for us but GC handled it easily. That's where we mostly lost it I reckon. Easy marks slipping through hands. Failing to 'one grab' it off the turf all night. That combined with one of the worst performances from a key fwd I've ever seen. Vickery will be in the team next match we all know that so it's payback time Ty. You need to kick a bag against Carlton
Not many positives. Hampson and Thomas were ok in their first game. McDonough got better as he got used to the pace.
Plenty of negatives. Vickery obviously , Conca was poor , Foley ? Hmmm he might be done.Grigg can't or won't tackle.
Oh well , gotta beat Carlton in 2 weeks. No effin excuses.
Yeah without a doubt, McDonough and Thomas looked pretty good.
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Grigg's disposal was terrible all game. Lots of blokes looking rough and sluggish.
What a shame, but I guess the Suns aren't a pushover anymore either. Becoming a bogey team...
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Why do we stop when were charging forward?
I was there, yes it was slippery, yes it was thumbleville but we bloody stop and stand still I am over it, run take them on Tigers, FFS..............
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Becoming a bogey team...
hopefully we'll rectify that if we ever play them in Melbourne !
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We still haven't solved either the issue of an opposition kicking a bag of goals in a short period of time. 4 goals in 10 mins in the first got the Suns on their way and then another 4 goals in 6 mins in the last finished us off. They only kicked 4 goals for remaining 3.5 qtrs. So we just caved in too easily once again when it mattered and which is why our harshest critics say we have a soft underbelly. Our middle tier has a terrible night and too much was left to Cotch and Lids to try and get us over the line.
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Becoming a bogey team...
hopefully we'll rectify that if we ever play them in Melbourne !
ther a grade talent is young and are coming to the fore. its gonna be a long time before we have their measure.
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Think l just watched the worst game of my life. Whats with all this short kicks. :banghead
l knew if we took this game lightly we would be beat. Too many players who need to wake up. :banghead
disgraceful performance :banghead
Last years final was the worst game of our lives.
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Think l just watched the worst game of my life. Whats with all this short kicks. :banghead
l knew if we took this game lightly we would be beat. Too many players who need to wake up. :banghead
disgraceful performance :banghead
Last years final was the worst game of our lives.
I hope we haven't dragged that poo all the way through preseason :'(
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You idiots umpires. Is Geisch back in charge ::).
so true
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The real worry is that GC genuinely looked a class above in every aspect -and they didn't even play at their best. Just another side we'll watch pass us as we spend our fourth consecutive decade treading water.
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Just another side we'll watch pass us as we spend our fourth consecutive decade treading water.
We're a bit like the aborigines. Empires will rise and fall while we'll be still banging sticks and finger painting.
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Thought Astbury and Rance were excellent
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Thought Astbury and Rance were excellent
Thought Rance was poo. Fans overrate him even more than Hardwick overrates Vickery.
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Thought Astbury and Rance were excellent
Astbury's first half was a joke. first 2 goals were his fault. Second half much better though
Rance was pathetic for 4 quarters.
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Astbury was our best tall defender and his game was only just passable in my opinion. Cost us a couple of goals but also did some very good things. Rance & Chaplin should have dominated. Who the stuff are forwards for GC? Dixon is the best of that lot and he was concussed during the 2nd. Chaplin was a joke. Don't let him near the kick ins.
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I thought Rance comfortably beat his opponent and Astbury too apart from 1 or 2 cntests. Chaps was disgraceful, the way he stood his man instead of running to spoil swallow 5 metres away was weak and summed up his night. Couldn't even receive a handball without fumbling
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Disagree. Thought the conditions made it a bit hard for a forward and Lynch still took some good marks on Rancey. Kicked a couple of goals and dished off one he could have easily kicked himself. Rance wasn't horrible but he should be giving baths to blokes like that. Can't believe some Tiger fans reckon he is the best defender in the comp
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I was there tonight and I am going to defend Vickery.
To me, he presented ok but dropped mark after mark and couldn't get a handle on the footy. His tackling etc was pretty good.
I think what cost us tonight was GC were used to the humidity causing a slippery ball which skidded around and we were not.
I've seen Dusty play footy for a long time and if he wears a glove you know it is a hard footy to handle. If not for that Vickery probably kicks 5 and we win for mine.
I'm more interested in Riewoldt. Does his media ban include not appearing on camera during games?
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Why didn't others wear gloves then? Darwin fiasco all over again.
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VIDEO: "Highlights" of the game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-03-15/round-1-match-highlights
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VIDEO: "Highlights" of the game ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-03-15/round-1-match-highlights
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Pass
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We need to start controlling the controllable actions as they all add up to play a major part as to why games like last night happen. Why would a leader of the club (Chaplin)who is an ordinary kick at best take a kick in at all let alone take it when the game is on the line. Houli, Vlastuin or McDonough only...its not that hard :banghead The best teams have have systems in place that don't allow this to happen. Players hanging onto tackles too long (Grigg) and giving soft easy frees away, not necessary at all. Jack playing for the easy free kicks and Vickery playing from behind constantly. Lazy kicks (Cotch, Grigg & Petterd) that go out on the full or miss the target by miles hurt, it goes on and on. Start controlling these actions and we might play like we did last year against the Hawks more often. Pull you fingers out and fast.
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And please play Martin in the middle and forward not down back...what a waste!
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Richmond's match committee faces selection headaches with several changes on the cards for Round 1
SELECTION TABLE
Richmond could have six changes from its losing elimination final side when it plays Gold Coast on Saturday night.
POSSIBLE INS
Matt McDonough, Shaun Hampson, Nathan Foley, Matt Thomas, Sam Lloyd, Ben Griffiths or Orren Stephenson, David Astbury
POSSIBLE OUTS
Dylan Grimes, Ivan Maric, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Aaron Edwards, Jake King
www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-match-committee-faces-selection-headaches-with-several-changes-on-the-cards-for-round-1/story-fndv8t7m-122685293560
Going by this the side will look something like:
B: Morris Rance Astbury
HB: Martin Chaplin Houli
C: Ellis Cotchin Conca
HF: Newman Riewoldt S.Edwards
F: Griffiths Vickery Lloyd
R: Hampson Deledio Thomas
Int: Grigg, Vlastuin, McDonough
Sub: Foley
Emg: Petterd, King, Stephenson
Injured: Maric, Jackson, Lennon.
Underdone: Grimes, Knights.
Overlooked: A.Edwards, Dea, Batchelor, Helbig, McIntosh, McBean, Gordon, Elton, O'Hanlon, Arnot, Banfield#, Miles#, Williams#, Darrou#
Worried about griggster
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Let's not single players out, the entire performance was as weak as pee, typical old school gutless crap of the highest degree from Richmond. Very disappointing, we would have to be the laughing stock of the AFL, REGARDLESS if it's round one or not, the sky is not falling but stuff, I pay good money that I earn to be part of this club and I deserve better than that crap last night.
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That's fair WAT
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I'm just glad that we didn't play the Blues because they would've easily beaten us last night.
How we could move the ball so smoothly in the first minutes to score and then be so clumsy for the rest of the game shows how easily we are spooked.
Once the GC scored those 4 early goals it was "Good Night Irene"
All isn't lost for the season but we had a shocker first up.
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I'm just glad that we didn't play the Blues because they would've easily beaten us last night.
How we could move the ball so smoothly in the first minutes to score and then be so clumsy for the rest of the game shows how easily we are spooked.
Once the GC scored those 4 early goals it was "Good Night Irene"
All isn't lost for the season but we had a shocker first up.
Agree, also think it's a coaching issue. When a team gets a run on, what do we do structurely to prevent it? Nothing. If you kicked 4 goals against Fremantle, Pavlich would go into the backline. If we kicked 4 goals against Geelong, Bartel would come into the middle. If we kicked 4 against Hawks, Roughead would come into the ruck and Hale down back.
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That was woeful.
Second to the ball all night. How did GC have so many numbers at every contest? Is that our 'structure', our fitness or our hunger? Whatever it is, it's bloody concerning and needs to be rectified against Carlton.
Dusty was poo. Ellis poo. Morris poo. Chaplin played like Coach's opinion of him. He was awful. Almost as bad as TYrone and that is saying something.
Can't remember the last time Newman impacted a game.
Vlas, Thomas, Cotch, Lids can hold their heads high, the rest need to stuffing lift, that includes Dimma.
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That was woeful.
Second to the ball all night. How did GC have so many numbers at every contest? Is that our 'structure', our fitness or our hunger? Whatever it is, it's bloody concerning and needs to be rectified against Carlton.
Dusty was poo. Ellis poo. Morris poo. Chaplin played like Coach's opinion of him. He was awful. Almost as bad as TYrone and that is saying something.
Can't remember the last time Newman impacted a game.
Vlas, Thomas, Cotch, Lids can hold their heads high, the rest need to stuffing lift, that includes Dimma.
Good Post :thumbsup
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Seen us play worse games
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That was woeful.
Second to the ball all night. How did GC have so many numbers at every contest? Is that our 'structure', our fitness or our hunger? Whatever it is, it's bloody concerning and needs to be rectified against Carlton.
Dusty was poo. Ellis poo. Morris poo. Chaplin played like Coach's opinion of him. He was awful. Almost as bad as TYrone and that is saying something.
Can't remember the last time Newman impacted a game.
Vlas, Thomas, Cotch, Lids can hold their heads high, the rest need to stuffing lift, that includes Dimma.
Yeah fair call, cotch and lids had heaps of disposals, but their usage was shockin and painstaking ineffective.
Everybody walked everybody didn't want the win end of story.
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Every single game we've played against the Suns have been in QLD. I was worried the humidity would affect the players. Players were slipping over & failing to take clean grabs. I also noticed the Suns have a similar thing to us with the drums, although there's were like Budhhist monks and not actually on the ground welcoming the players. Good to see a lot of Tigers supporters. Didn't seem as many Suns supporters so you could be excused from thinking the roar from the crowd when they scored was just a recording. They don't even know their own team song & I think it only got played once at the end
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reckon the real difference was our lack of polish. in the conditions they were so much cleaner than us.
i mean to say the game was set up for us they lose two players early in hot slippery conditions. they have probably their best two tall defenders on the sidelines in bock and thompson which makes riewoldts and vickerys games even more deplorable. they are without their best ruckman one of their better classier mids in bennell.
if i look at the stats they are lies. they tell me we won in most important areas thing is too few bolstered these areas in fact if it wasnt for a few it would have been a total thrashing clearly too much is still being left to too few.
that aside the other real concern was our effectivness, it was deplorable. just too many who lack polish or too limited in what they can do.
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Agree with all of that Claw.
Their outs were far more significant than ours.
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they were 2 men down most the game, and made us look so slow and unfit
go figure
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Richmonds bogey teams
Geelong
Collingwood
Carlton
North Melbourne
Gold Coast ....have the tigers spooked out of their heads.
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Not good enough. Agree with comments too much is being left to a couple of players
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they were 2 men down most the game, and made us look so slow and unfit
go figure
Exactly
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We were outcoached, outplayed and outclassed - terrible night. :facepalm They knew exactly how to play the conditions - we did not. We fumbled, dropped marks and looked panicked throughout. Conversely, they were much more confident with the conditions.
They deconstructed our game plan beautifully, giving us no space to lead into, manning up and forcing us to kick long to a contest. They broke through our zone with pace and quick ball movement and had faith in their forwards to win the ball or at least lock the ball in their F50. Our backmen were continuously exposed one out from lack of pressure from our midfield and at the start of the game they were winning it out of the stoppages at will - a strength of ours usually.
I couldn't get over the amount of times these 4th year players were out bodying and beating our more experienced players in almost every one-on-one contest across the ground. We seemed slow and exhausted.
Worst Players imo
Vickery keep getting lead to the ball, giving away frees and dropping marks. He was well beaten on the night.
Foley offered absolutely nothing when he was brought into the game. He could have been the difference with fresh legs and them with none sub but he was invisible.
Petterd offered no run or as a target
Ellis, Conca & McDough were unsighted and beaten
Best Players imo
Cotchin by the legth of a country mile. Worked all night and ran his &^%$ off to try and create a target and generate drive.
Lids & Martin had cameos
Vlaustin was out best player early but was tagged as the game went on
I think we would have won this game if we played in Melbourne but the worrying trend for mine is how we just can't play in humid conditions and when the space is taken away from us we have no plan B. Thomas, Hampson and Griffiths did a reasonable job for their first game but unless we are playing on a larger ground I'm no sure we can play Vickery, Jack and Griffiths in the same forwardline. I would rather just the two and have more smaller targets that can lock it in.
We really missed King and Jackson for the spunk and poise they offer - can't believe I'm saying that. Our midfield looked ordinary too which I'm not sure was because of our ruck work, their midfielders or the conditions.
We looked all at sea and unless we turn it around quickly we will be listening to 'Da, Da, Da, Da, Da...We are the Navy Blues' after our next weeks game too :banghead
Morris was injured early but never stopped trying.
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Let's not single players out
Why? So Vickery and his wang gang can hide behind the performances of Cotch, Thomas and the like?
Players should be accountable
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Let's not single players out
Why? So Vickery and his wang gang can hide behind the performances of Cotch, Thomas and the like?
Players should be accountable
:clapping
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Can I ask a serious question....is the humidity / dew / playing in March a serious factor at metricon. Some of the Richmond players looked like they were playing with soap last night.
I don't get it ...playing in the third world (Cairns) is one thing but our record at the gabba is almost as good as the Australian cricket team.
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Can I ask a serious question....is the humidity / dew / playing in March a serious factor at metricon. Some of the Richmond players looked like they were playing with soap last night.
I don't get it ...playing in the third world (Cairns) is one thing but our record at the gabba is almost as good as the Australian cricket team.
Usually play the gabba in Winter - big difference in conditions.
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Suns winning = free Big Mac. Winning.
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To be fair, as Shute as we were aside.
Vlad has got what it wanted in regards from the expansion sides.
They will be good for some time.
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Let's not single players out
Why? So Vickery and his wang gang can hide behind the performances of Cotch, Thomas and the like?
Players should be accountable
:clapping
:clapping :clapping
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I think in years to come we may look back on this round as the beginning of the end for the rest of the competitions hopes of a flag for 5+ years :help. We have 2 or 3 more years left before we see the inevitable happen :badidea
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I think in years to come we may look back on this round as the beginning of the end for the rest of the competitions hopes of a flag for 5+ years :help. We have 2 or 3 more years left before we see the inevitable happen :badidea
Some high draft picks running around ... In the same jumper/s
Third place = new premiers
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I think in years to come we may look back on this round as the beginning of the end for the rest of the competitions hopes of a flag for 5+ years :help. We have 2 or 3 more years left before we see the inevitable happen :badidea
Some high draft picks running around ... In the same jumper/s
Third place = new premiers
Sad but true
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Imagine a GWS vs Gold Coast GF, wonder if the G would fill???????
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Just watching the replay
When you are calm, not emotionally involved because you know the result, it actually looks worse; the ineptitude
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Can I ask a serious question....is the humidity / dew / playing in March a serious factor at metricon. Some of the Richmond players looked like they were playing with soap last night.
I don't get it ...playing in the third world (Cairns) is one thing but our record at the gabba is almost as good as the Australian cricket team.
I wasn't there last night Mat but looking at the temperatures, humidity and (more importantly) dew point around game time would suggest that there was some (but not a large amount) humidity but little or no moisture (dew) on the ground and a significant breeze so the handling errors or lack of effort/run can't be blamed on humidity or moisture. And if they were a factor then both sides would have been slipping over and spilling ball but only one side was.
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Can I ask a serious question....is the humidity / dew / playing in March a serious factor at metricon. Some of the Richmond players looked like they were playing with soap last night.
I don't get it ...playing in the third world (Cairns) is one thing but our record at the gabba is almost as good as the Australian cricket team.
I wasn't there last night Mat but looking at the temperatures, humidity and (more importantly) dew point around game time would suggest that there was some (but not a large amount) humidity but little or no moisture (dew) on the ground and a significant breeze so the handling errors or lack of effort/run can't be blamed on humidity or moisture. And if they were a factor then both sides would have been slipping over and spilling ball but only one side was.
Interesting, we are up here at the moment & this morning went to brekky with Suns supporting family who live on GC, their first comment was that we hadn't factored in the slippery conditions.
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Imagine a GWS vs Gold Coast GF, wonder if the G would fill???????
Of course it would ! Real supporters don't get GF tickets. It'll be filled by corporates and blow ins
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I wasn't there last night Mat but looking at the temperatures, humidity and (more importantly) dew point around game time would suggest that there was some (but not a large amount) humidity but little or no moisture (dew) on the ground and a significant breeze so the handling errors can't be blamed on humidity or moisture.
That's clearly wrong
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Why? It was only our side that kept falling over and spilling marks. The temperature at game start was only 23 degrees so nowhere near as hot as what they have been training/playing in for the past few months, the dew point was 17.9 degrees so there should have been little or no dew, and if the conditions were to blame then we should have seen some semblance of mishandling from the opposition but there was none from the Suns. And I don't buy into the theory that "they are locals and are used to the conditions" because the conditions were nothing out of the ordinary for potentially anywhere in our country (except maybe Tassie) for this time of the year. We did the exact same thing up in Darwin a couple of years ago vs Port when on paper we should have spanked them yet we failed to 'bring our A game' and were given a lesson in desire and application by a bottom side. At that time many were happy to blame the conditions (humidity, dew, etc etc, blah blah) but Port had to play in them also and being an SA side had no more right to blame the conditions for their performance than we did. Blaming the conditions for anything last night is just a p-weak cheap cop out. We didn't apply ourselves to any facet of the game and there is the single and real reason we lost.
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Exactly Smokey, they were the better side and deserved to win.
Time for the boys to show what they are made of in next weeks performance
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Interesting, we are up here at the moment & this morning went to brekky with Suns supporting family who live on GC, their first comment was that we hadn't factored in the slippery conditions.
It was a polite way of saying we were crap, they probably didn't want to spoil the mood for breakfast.
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Interesting, we are up here at the moment & this morning went to brekky with Suns supporting family who live on GC, their first comment was that we hadn't factored in the slippery conditions.
It was a polite way of saying we were crap, they probably didn't want to spoil the mood for breakfast.
Hahahaha yes probably correct !!!
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Good thing GCS didn't kick accurately, we could of got done by 10 goals...
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Just on the humidity/weather
Was speaking to a friend this arvo just after they got back from the GC
They said that although it wasn't hot last night (it had been around 29 during the day) they noticed the humidity.
They said it was a very still night but they found the air heavy, sweated like pigs :laugh: and just found it oppressive. Said it was like that year we were in Darwin and all the locals said it wasn't humid but to us it was and it was unbearable.
Yep we get humidity in Melb but not as frequently as they do up North.
Perhaps it gets back to what your used to? ;D
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Just on the humidity/weather
Was speaking to a friend this arvo just after they got back from the GC
They said that although it wasn't hot last night (it had been around 29 during the day) they noticed the humidity.
They said it was a very still night but they found the air heavy, sweated like pigs :laugh: and just found it oppressive. Said it was like that year we were in Darwin and all the locals said it wasn't humid but to us it was and it was unbearable.
Yep we get humidity in Melb but not as frequently as they do up North.
Perhaps it gets back to what your used to? ;D
sounds like an excuse. Also sounds like they were at a different game. It was cold and windy and little humidity. :lol
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]sounds like an excuse. Also sounds like they were at a different game. It was cold and windy and little humidity. :lol
No, they were there and they aren't the only people who were at the game who thought the conditions were "heavy". Big discussion at the airport today about it :) ;D
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Just on the humidity/weather
Was speaking to a friend this arvo just after they got back from the GC
They said that although it wasn't hot last night (it had been around 29 during the day) they noticed the humidity.
They said it was a very still night but they found the air heavy, sweated like pigs :laugh: and just found it oppressive. Said it was like that year we were in Darwin and all the locals said it wasn't humid but to us it was and it was unbearable.
Yep we get humidity in Melb but not as frequently as they do up North.
Perhaps it gets back to what your used to? ;D
24kmh winds reducing to 15kmh by games end doesn't suggest "very still" to me. There must have been a breeze because the commentators kept mentioning how the players having shots at the 'Richmond' (cheer squad) end of the ground needed to allow for the breeze by aiming for the LHS goal post and letting the breeze bring the ball back. The breeze increases the cooling effect (and comfort) on the body in higher humidity situations and reduces the chance of dew forming. I didn't see one cool vest being used and I didn't see any Gold Coast players slipping over or going to ground. Nothing to do with what your used to - the conditions had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of that game.
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Exactly Smokey, they were the better side and deserved to win.
Time for the boys to show what they are made of in next weeks performance
you will have to wait for round 3 as the blues will beat us im sorry to say.
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Just on the humidity/weather
Was speaking to a friend this arvo just after they got back from the GC
They said that although it wasn't hot last night (it had been around 29 during the day) they noticed the humidity.
They said it was a very still night but they found the air heavy, sweated like pigs :laugh: and just found it oppressive. Said it was like that year we were in Darwin and all the locals said it wasn't humid but to us it was and it was unbearable.
Yep we get humidity in Melb but not as frequently as they do up North.
Perhaps it gets back to what your used to? ;D
sounds like an excuse. Also sounds like they were at a different game. It was cold and windy and little humidity. :lol
got it in one.
WP your friends are looking for excuses and reasons
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I was there last night, 2 rows from the fence and it was clearly damp.
I walked across the training ground right next door after the game and the surface was as wet as having 10mm of rain.
Also heard McKenna somewhere say he felt games early in the season hold a significant home advantage for them and the GC member next to me said the Suns have been training under lights at least once per week for a month.
Mind you, most of that indicates to me a lack of preparation from our coaching staff.
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Mind you, most of that indicates to me a lack of preparation from our coaching staff.
Bingo
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Why? It was only our side that kept falling over and spilling marks.
Coz they handled the humid slippery conditions better than we did.
The temperature at game start was only 23 degrees so nowhere near as hot as what they have been training/playing in for the past few months
The temperature has nothing to do with it !
the dew point was 17.9 degrees so there should have been little or no dew
Ha ! , well you've got me there Livinia ;D
and if the conditions were to blame then we should have seen some semblance of mishandling from the opposition but there was none from the Suns
Like I said , they just handled the conditions better , and at no stage have I ever blamed the conditions for the loss. They played better than we did on the night.
We didn't apply ourselves to any facet of the game and there is the single and real reason we lost.
That's just total crap
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I agree Dice, we didn't handle the conditions anywhere near as well as them, watching the telecast was pretty obvious it was a slippery ball - not using it as an out, just a very poor reflection on our players and coaches preparation.
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I agree Dice, we didn't handle the conditions anywhere near as well as them, watching the telecast was pretty obvious it was a slippery ball - not using it as an out, just a very poor reflection on our players and coaches preparation.
Why was it only slippery to one side? Lol at those using it as any sort of excuse, regardless of how minor. Would have been just as much dew in Sydney or Melbourne on the Friday night yet if we had played the game in either of those 2 cities and played like we did we would have had the same outcome but no-one would be even hinting at the conditions as an excuse.
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I was there last night, 2 rows from the fence and it was clearly damp.
I walked across the training ground right next door after the game and the surface was as wet as having 10mm of rain.
Also heard McKenna somewhere say he felt games early in the season hold a significant home advantage for them and the GC member next to me said the Suns have been training under lights at least once per week for a month.
Mind you, most of that indicates to me a lack of preparation from our coaching staff.
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Coz they handled the humid slippery conditions better than we did.
Your opinion, I don't agree. They handled the game better than we did. Wasn't any more humid or slippery than Melbourne or Sydney on any given day at this time of the year.
The temperature has nothing to do with it !
Um, yeah it does. When linked to the moisture content in the air and prevailing wind it has a direct bearing on the level of human comfort and amount of moisture on the ground.
Like I said , they just handled the conditions better , and at no stage have I ever blamed the conditions for the loss. They played better than we did on the night.
I didn't say you did blame the conditions but you have just used them as an excuse, if only partially and again, I completely disagree with that. They encountered nothing more condition-wise last night than they potentially would have in Melbourne or Sydney yet because it was on the Gold Coast then it has become convenient for many to put that up as one of the reasons we lost.
That's just total crap
Why? What facet of the game do you think we applied ourselves better than them?
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Why was it only slippery to one side? Lol at those using it as any sort of excuse, regardless of how minor. Would have been just as much dew in Sydney or Melbourne on the Friday night
:lol NO !! Not sure you get it ? You need get out of your mum's basement occasionally Smoko
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I agree Dice, we didn't handle the conditions anywhere near as well as them, watching the telecast was pretty obvious it was a slippery ball - not using it as an out, just a very poor reflection on our players and coaches preparation.
Why was it only slippery to one side? Lol at those using it as any sort of excuse, regardless of how minor. Would have been just as much dew in Sydney or Melbourne on the Friday night yet if we had played the game in either of those 2 cities and played like we did we would have had the same outcome but no-one would be even hinting at the conditions as an excuse.
Yes we would, just like we did after the game in darwin a few years ago, Port handled the ball infinetly better than we did that night, but going by your arguments here, "Why was it only slippery for one side?" I don't get your logic smokey..
why is it so hard for you to accept that one team can handle conditions better? It was slippery for both, but one side handled it significantly better. Its not an excuse, its just how it is and Im dirty on them about it amongst other things.
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I was there last night, 2 rows from the fence and it was clearly damp.
I walked across the training ground right next door after the game and the surface was as wet as having 10mm of rain.
Also heard McKenna somewhere say he felt games early in the season hold a significant home advantage for them and the GC member next to me said the Suns have been training under lights at least once per week for a month.
Mind you, most of that indicates to me a lack of preparation from our coaching staff.
same. I sat right on the boundary on the wing. It was a warm night but can't say I noticed a breeze - would have been mild if there was one but my friend feels the humidity & was sweating like a pig. GC are used to these conditions & train in them so of course they are going to have that advantage over Melb teams
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WTF?!
Using conditions as an excuse is as pathetic as their performances.
Little babies can only play indoors. LMAO.
FFS,
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Yes it might hold some merit if:
It wasn't still only March and it's humid everystuffingwhere.
It's only round one and they've just come off 4 months of summer training and 3 practice matches -4 if you include intraclub- in similar conditions.
They weren't stuffing highly paid stuffing professionals whose whole lives are structured around playing the sport at the highest level.
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The game was clearly played in conditions that weren't dry.
If you want to call it an excuse or not, our coaching staff didn't prepare the team well enough or the players weren't smart enough compared to GC. Mix that the many indicators we under performed in and that's why we lost.
How else can you analyse a loss then not look for the reasons why we weren't good enough?
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A 1983 cartoon that sums up our feelings after Saturday night's loss ...
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Nothing to do with what your used to - the conditions had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of that game.
Absolutely agree with you Smokey we were crap, and above the shoulders not switched on at all
Just repeating what people from Melbourne who went up there said about the weather. They felt it was humid and oppressive
And they didn't use it as an excuse, thing that stood out to them during the game was how slow and reactionary we were, where as the Suns the speed of the Suns was sensational
got it in one.
WP your friends are looking for excuses and reasons
Nope see above
Mind you, most of that indicates to me a lack of preparation from our coaching staff.
Bingo
Bingo x 2
reckon our coaches & fitness people got it wrong. We trained at Metricon on Friday at 2.30pm in the afternoon. Why? Surely if you are playing at night then you would make sure you train at the venue in as close to the conditions you are going to be playing in; in this case train under lights. As for our team selections well ::)
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Interesting comment on Tyronne this morning from Big bad barry hall saying he was good... clearly I must have been at the wrong game on Saturday night or barry was taking the mickey out of him.... third qrt he had about 3 opportunites to kick goals close to home but stuffed them all up from two kicks over his body to one were he couldn't even bend over.... People on here are saying weather conditons at the end of the day there elite athletes getting paid top dollar they should be able to handle any weather.... no different to freo and eagles when they play at Etihad no roofs in WA????? We just lacked run in the end to our credit I was surprised we got in front in the last.
I would also like to add Cotchin single handerlky nearly got us there not many games he gets 38 and we lose, hampson was good in that last qrt to... Oh well carlton in 2 weeks someone has to be 0-2 and lets hope its not us
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Audacity of Hype
Sunday, March 16, 2014
Opening Night Blues
Nemesis: the escapable agent of someone’s or something’s downfall.
Thank (deity of your choice) that we snuck a win against the Gold Coast last year because based on what we just saw; it could be a very long time between drinks.
Losing happens, Richmond supporters know that better that most. We also know that first round losses get weighted more despite the fact there is no difference between a round one loss and a round 17. Generally when we crap the bed in round one we only need to get through an extra Friday, Saturday and Sunday but this time around it’s an extra week before possible redemption. Joy.
But, there were more than a few things to be concerned about last night. Despite all the talk about working on the defensive side of our game, we let a bunch of would be university students put two four goals bursts on us in a 22 goal game, thanks for coming. Our forward line looked as if they’d just met for a social match, rather than just completed a four-month pre-season. And a good proportion of our midfield had that ‘it’s getting hard now, I’ll let Cotchin handle things’ look about them in the first half of the last quarter.
We are supposed to be a couple of years ahead of Gold Coast yet, at times, it looked as if they were Blood Sugar Sex Magik and we were Stadium Arcadium. Don’t even try to go the ‘they’ve been handed so many first round picks’ approach, we’ve burned more than our fair share of first round picks over the journey and you can’t dump a team in a non-footy market and have them perform like Frawley era Richmond for the first decade.
In the first quarter we looked miles off it, other than Vlastuin showing why we are all madly in love with him, they wanted it more, got to it quicker and used it smarter. Astbury, who got better as the night went on, put in a couple of contests that were reminiscent of round one Jayden Post before we never saw nor heard of him again.
We managed to steady the contest without really taking control. A couple of chases by big blokes, tackles by Matt Thomas and a bit of tempo footy rather than bombing it to the top of the square meant Jaegar O’Meara couldn’t be sublime whenever he felt like it. But despite more or less controlling the game throughout the second and third quarters, we only kicked three goals to their two.
Their last quarter burst showed that we still have a very, very long way to go. Gaz got going and because he’s a winner and we aren’t, it was all over. Tom Lynch will be a fine player one day but he shouldn’t be doing what he did to Rance and when, given their rotations, we needed someone fresh to run circles around them, Foley showed why we didn’t play him against Carlton in the finals.
After a month of hearing from the club just how dominant Ty Vickery was going to be, he put in a game that Jack Watts would have been ashamed of.
Interestingly, after a rather controlled summer where we’d managed to keep a lid on expectations (thanks North), Hardwick made the extraordinary mistake of publicly putting a measure on Ty’s season. Granted, he should kick 40 goals but you don’t say that. Can you imagine Chris Scott or Alistair Clarkson coming out this week and making such a statement about Hawkins or Gunston just before their round one game?
Vickery’s game stood out the most but he had plenty of mates, Jack, Rance, Chaplin, Ellis and Griffiths all had games that I’m guessing like to hand back.
Leadership groups are all the rage but right now out on field leadership group is a sole proprietor by the name of Cotchin. We need to find blokes within our list who can give him a hand when things aren’t going our way. And I know we are supposed to think that Brett Deledio is the hardest marked man in football but his petulant hoofing the ball away was the reason nobody outside of Punt Road thinks twice about him when compiling ‘best of’ lists, despite how many interviews and podcasts we do in his defence. Lids’ time is now, he should be in the top ten of those lists, and 2014 is very much ‘put up or shut up’.
There were a few good things to come out of it: Hampson’s tap ruck work was the best I’ve seen at Richmond since was the best since I’ve seen at Richmond, McDonough is going to be a very good player, Matt Thomas will do plenty of heavy lifting during the next couple of years and Cotchin was back to the 2012 model.
They’ve got a week and half to find out what the best way to convert inside 50’s into goals is and Hardwick has a decent track record of successfully making tweaks between games.
We have too good a list now to be writing off performances like that as a ‘bad night’ and Hardwick’s post-match comments suggest he wont publicly be making excuses for losses this year.
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How bad are the Gold Coast? 3 goal win at home to Richmond LMAO
Pressure on McKenna
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]sounds like an excuse. Also sounds like they were at a different game. It was cold and windy and little humidity. :lol
No, they were there and they aren't the only people who were at the game who thought the conditions were "heavy". Big discussion at the airport today about it :) ;D
i was there too. Just excuse making. The humidity was like 30% and you couldn't notice it. It was also cold. We were just poo. Utterly pathetic.
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Yes it might hold some merit if:
It wasn't still only March and it's humid everystuffingwhere.
It's only round one and they've just come off 4 months of summer training and 3 practice matches -4 if you include intraclub- in similar conditions.
They weren't stuffing highly paid stuffing professionals whose whole lives are structured around playing the sport at the highest level.
exactly. Same humidity as Melbourne. If we'd played last night where it felt like humidity was in the 90s we'd have been rooted.
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To add to this it was about 5 times more humid at the Friday night game. Maybe we shouldn't play in Melbourne either. :lol
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Humidity wouldn't have affected them at the beginning of the game - just a cop-out excuse.
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aint it sad l'm watching the replay just now & with 1.30 left in the 3rd quarter Rance is the only players attacking the GCS forwards in the the backline. 3 atempts & not one player backs him up or trys helping him put pressure on their forwards. McDonough is in the frame standing there
:banghead
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aint it sad l'm watching the replay just now & with 1.30 left in the 3rd quarter Rance is the only players attacking the GCS forwards in the the backline. 3 atempts & not one player backs him up or trys helping him put pressure on their forwards. McDonough is in the frame standing there
:banghead
our defense was utter crap. chaplin was a disgrace. i agree rance had no support but what can you do our players went up for a holiday thats all.
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To add to this it was about 5 times more humid at the Friday night game. Maybe we shouldn't play in Melbourne either. :lol
:lol
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Anyone know what the usual set-up is for pre Gold Coast games training?
a couple of bongs and a morning surf?
Hmm, with the way they played, this may not have been far off of the mark.......
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:lol :clapping
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]sounds like an excuse. Also sounds like they were at a different game. It was cold and windy and little humidity. :lol
No, they were there and they aren't the only people who were at the game who thought the conditions were "heavy". Big discussion at the airport today about it :) ;D
i was there too. Just excuse making. The humidity was like 30% and you couldn't notice it. It was also cold. We were just poo. Utterly pathetic.
dont know where you got your figures from but othe Seaway recorded temps around 23 degrees and humidity in high 60s/low 70s and the Seaway tends to be cooler than inland
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]sounds like an excuse. Also sounds like they were at a different game. It was cold and windy and little humidity. :lol
No, they were there and they aren't the only people who were at the game who thought the conditions were "heavy". Big discussion at the airport today about it :) ;D
i was there too. Just excuse making. The humidity was like 30% and you couldn't notice it. It was also cold. We were just poo. Utterly pathetic.
dont know where you got your figures from but othe Seaway recorded temps around 23 degrees and humidity in high 60s/low 70s and the Seaway tends to be cooler than inland
got it off the bureau site. It said 33%. I was at both night games. Etihad humidity was insane. I froze and didn't notice the humidity in qld whilst I was dropping sweat after etihad. The humidity had nothing to do with the way we played.
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The humidity had nothing to do with the way we played.
Exactly – and apart from two games in Far stuffing norf queenslernd we have an outstanding W/L record in that state over the last 10 years.
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This thread is a shambles....humidity this, triviality that....
We got reemed by bogans in shorts and there was no time for lubricant.
End of story
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This thread is a shambles....humidity this, triviality that....
We got reemed by bogans in shorts and there was no time for lubricant.
End of story
:lol
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Coaches' votes (Hardwick & McKenna)
Gold Coast vs Richmond
10 Ablett (GCS)
7 May (GCS)
7 Prestia (GCS)
3 Cotchin (Rich)
3 Swallow (GCS)
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