Richmond vs Gold Coast @ Metricon - Round 1, 2014

[tony_montana]

For goodness sakes 

Thompson is actually more outside than inside
Conca is very outside
Foley more outside
Jackson hmm maybe a fair bit inside to be fair...


Ive heard it all now..

FWIW know-it-all, just so you know, we are one of the best stoppage and clearance sides in the comp  NFI

[the claw]

back on topic here    . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.

oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.

mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward.  ffs jake king is our regular sml forward.  and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.

i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.

Before I comment, just want to check if there are any punctuation or grammatical errors in your post that may skew my interpretation?

im not ashamed to say my english is terrible i wouldnt have the faintest if im grammatically correct or not. but of course little minds will focus on little things. if you have something to say bud ffs say it.

if you want the truth?  i couldnt give a fat rats hole what you do or say. no matter what happens you will interpret things as you like,  so go ahead do your worst.im sure  others may care what you post im not interested.   nonsense is nonsense and its usually laughable.
 as one who calls people  narcissistic and as such claims not to be,   you should know its not about you hanna. 

[the claw]

For goodness sakes 

Thompson is actually more outside than inside
Conca is very outside
Foley more outside
Jackson hmm maybe a fair bit inside to be fair...


Ive heard it all now..

FWIW know-it-all, just so you know, we are one of the best stoppage and clearance sides in the comp  NFI

is that it. hhhaarrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrggghghh hhhhaaarrrrgggghh, my 12 yr old niece could do better.

[tony_montana]

back on topic here    . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.

oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.

mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward.  ffs jake king is our regular sml forward.  and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.

i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.

Before I comment, just want to check if there are any punctuation or grammatical errors in your post that may skew my interpretation?

im not ashamed to say my english is terrible i wouldnt have the faintest if im grammatically correct or not. but of course little minds will focus on little things. if you have something to say bud ffs say it.

if you want the truth?  i couldnt give a fat rats behindhole what you do or say. no matter what happens you will interpret things as you like,  so go ahead do your worst.im sure  others may care what you post im not interested.   nonsense is nonsense and its usually laughable.
 as one who calls people  narcissistic and as such claims not to be,   you should know its not about you hanna.

and if you were able to follow the gist of our disagreement you would realise that I really don't care about or judge people's grammar or spelling, I don't pay close attention to my own and don't ridicule people for theirs like some high brows on here do..  The ONLY reason I bring it up with you(tongue in cheek) was bc you used it as an excuse to cover your ridiculous comment about donut and I simply don't believe you.. But that doesn't suit your argument ey? You need to miss the point entirely. ..and what a strange comment that last one was

[Penelope]

may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.

May i ask if this means as it reads? coz if it does, wtf does it come from?

[tony_montana]

For goodness sakes 

Thompson is actually more outside than inside
Conca is very outside
Foley more outside
Jackson hmm maybe a fair bit inside to be fair...


Ive heard it all now..

FWIW know-it-all, just so you know, we are one of the best stoppage and clearance sides in the comp  NFI

is that it. hhhaarrgghhh hhhhaaarrrrggghghh hhhhaaarrrrgggghh, my 12 yr old niece could do better.

Yeah that's it or did I "purposely" miss something really obvious in that inane rant bc of a spelling error?

[tigs2011]

back on topic here    . may i ask who all these inside mids are we have. couldnt promote miles because we have too many inside mids please im bemused.

oh astbury at 23 is hardly a kid anymore. it is make or break time for him.

mcdonough in the backline. we are screaming out for QUALITY SML/MED FORWARDS. Yet we cant develop supposedly the most promising one of all when we drafted him as a forward.  ffs jake king is our regular sml forward.  and what we are short of sml/med defenders are we. last time i looked we had too many. what does that say about them.
just gotta question the logic at times.

i will say it now without seeing the final sides and open myself up to abuse and ridicule. my moneys on gcs.

I think the thing the club is trying to do is limit the number of guys who can only play inside mid. Vlastuin and Conca are probably the best examples. They are pure inside mids but we've played them off HB or off a wing to develop a well-rounded game. I think they will try develop some other areas of Miles game in the VFL. Thomas is what he is and having seen most of all their games so far I had Thomas slightly ahead. I've said in other threads Miles let himself down on the weekend, whilst Thomas played a really good game.

What I like best about him is he will bring an end to the "nice" Richmond. I think Vlastuin fits the bill here too.

Astbury and Griff for that matter are both in a make or break year. Someone can correct me here but I believe they are both in the last year of contracts? Griff given just the one. Both are actually playing like it. Some bloody urgency in Griff is fantastic.

If McDonough plays down back with Houli/Morris and bit of Dusty hopefully that means Flossy into the middle so that gives you another inside mid. Who knows what they end up doing with him. All our youngsters start there and then move elsewhere eventually. As for small forwards, Newman has looked really good there in the parts he's played. Doesn't need as many chances as King and Nahas because he doesn't waste them like they do. From what I've seen Lloyd is a fair way ahead of King and with Banfield now ineligible he's the one whose a chance. Kicked 2 from nothing in the VFL on the weekend.

I don't think it's that outrageous to tip GC. I think on paper we should be 4-0 after 4 rounds but do I trust our team to mentally be able to beat GC, Carlton and Collingwood. Not a chance in hell will I have faith until they start beating these teams regularly.

[one-eyed]

Richmond's match committee faces selection headaches with several changes on the cards for Round 1

Herald-Sun
March 13, 2014


RICHMOND could make up to six changes to the team that flopped against Carlton in last year's elimination final as controversial small forward Jake King fights for a Round 1 berth.

The Tigers will name at least two debutants to play against Gold Coast on Saturday night in former Carlton ruckman Shaun Hampson and tagger Matt Thomas, and small defender Matt McDonough is locked in to play just his second game.

But it is the small forward positions that will cause heartburn at match committee given King's limited preparation of just one NAB Challenge game.

Journeyman small forward Sam Lloyd, recruited from VFL club Frankston, could nudge out King because of his forward pressure and nose for a goal.

Missing from the 20-point loss to the Blues will be Shane Tuck (retired), Daniel Jackson (groin), Ivan Maric (ankle), Dylan Grimes (hamstring) and potentially King and forward Aaron Edwards.

Former skipper Chris Newman has recovered from a knee scare and will play forward at Metricon Stadium, and coach Damien Hardwick is also keen to rotate his star midfielders through the forward line.

King had only seven touches and no tackles in the pre-season match against Collingwood, but Lloyd's kicking was at just 43 per cent efficiency in his two pre-season games.

The Tigers have no doubt King, who had off-season toe and shoulder surgery, is in their best 22 but in their Round 1 dress rehearsal on Friday, he played VFL and Lloyd, 24, was in the senior side.

King, who turns 30 this month, has a clause in his contract under which he is automatically handed a contract extension if he plays at least 12 games this season.

Ruckman Orren Stephenson was elevated from the rookie list on Tuesday but key tall Ben Griffiths was Hampson's deputy against Essendon at Punt Rd Oval on Friday.

Injury-prone tall David Astbury has locked down a key defensive post alongside Alex Rance and Troy Chaplin after outstanding pre-season form, and is likely to take Suns power forward Charlie Dixon.

Fellow tall defender Grimes is recovering from another hamstring setback and, while he played VFL on Friday, he is at long odds to play against the Suns.

Nathan Foley, surprisingly dropped for the Carlton final, starred for Richmond's VFL side last week.

Club champion Jackson will miss at least another week with a groin strain, allowing former Port Adelaide midfielder Thomas to get the job on Gary Ablett.

Jack Riewoldt made a successful return after soreness last week and played alongside Tyrone Vickery in a side with just two key forwards.

It means Edwards could miss out, despite kicking 2.2 in last year's finals loss.

Hardwick was thrilled with the successful return of Reece Conca last week from the hamstring injury he suffered against the Blues, and has already flagged him as a big improver this year.

The Tigers will hold a training session at Punt Rd Oval today for a clash they see as a definite danger game.



SELECTION TABLE

Richmond could have six changes from its losing elimination final side when it plays Gold Coast on Saturday night.

POSSIBLE INS

Matt McDonough, Shaun Hampson, Nathan Foley, Matt Thomas, Sam Lloyd, Ben Griffiths or Orren Stephenson, David Astbury

POSSIBLE OUTS

Dylan Grimes, Ivan Maric, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Aaron Edwards, Jake King


www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-match-committee-faces-selection-headaches-with-several-changes-on-the-cards-for-round-1/story-fndv8t7m-122685293560

[1965]

im not ashamed to say my english is terrible i wouldnt have the faintest if im grammatically correct or not. but of course little minds will focus on little things.

Grammatically you could use some help.

But your posts are easy enough to understand.

 

[mightytiges]

Richmond's match committee faces selection headaches with several changes on the cards for Round 1

SELECTION TABLE

Richmond could have six changes from its losing elimination final side when it plays Gold Coast on Saturday night.

POSSIBLE INS

Matt McDonough, Shaun Hampson, Nathan Foley, Matt Thomas, Sam Lloyd, Ben Griffiths or Orren Stephenson, David Astbury

POSSIBLE OUTS

Dylan Grimes, Ivan Maric, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Aaron Edwards, Jake King


www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-match-committee-faces-selection-headaches-with-several-changes-on-the-cards-for-round-1/story-fndv8t7m-122685293560

Going by this the side will look something like:

B:   Morris      Rance       Astbury
HB: Martin      Chaplin     Houli
C:   Ellis          Cotchin    Conca
HF: Newman    Riewoldt   S.Edwards
F:   Griffiths     Vickery    Lloyd
R:   Hampson   Deledio   Thomas
Int: Grigg, Vlastuin, McDonough
Sub: Foley

Emg: Petterd, King, Stephenson
   

Injured: Maric, Jackson, Lennon.

Underdone: Grimes, Knights.

Overlooked: A.Edwards, Dea, Batchelor, Helbig, McIntosh, McBean, Gordon, Elton, O'Hanlon, Arnot, Banfield#, Miles#, Williams#, Darrou#

[Stripes]

I understand where you are coming from claw but we still remain a strong contested side regardless. Jackson had the same contested ball average as Tuck did in 2013 on 9.5 and S.Edwards was only marginally behind them with an average of 9.3 contested balls per game. Cotch was clearly best with an average of 11.8 a game but that still only ranks him 19th in the league.

I believe that Vlaustin and Conca will make excellent inside mids who can spread. Foley does need to spend or time winning the ball as he has lost a yard of pace but is creative by hand. Thomas is a ball winning machine when he is given that role but he has often been played as a tagger in previous years which has forced much of his possessions outside and his tackle numbers up as you would expect with that role.

Miles is a pure ball winner and I was hoping we would have elevated him into the side for all the reasons you have expressed. Against teams like Carlton, Collingwood, North and Geelong last year our contested ball numbers were exposed so I would like more ball winners groomed for these team match-ups if for nothing else.

I don't think we are as bad off as you fear but we do need some of our better young mids to step up and start assisting Cotch this year I grant you 

[tiga]

Possible outs "Shane Tuck"???? Damn!    I had him lined up for my dream team. 

[tigs2011]

Possible outs "Shane Tuck"???? Damn!    I had him lined up for my dream team. 

[wayne]

Possible outs "Shane Tuck"???? Damn!    I had him lined up for my dream team. 

No Taylor Petrenko as a possible in?

There must have been a loophole in his contract that meant he couldn't leave Norf??

[Judge Roughneck]

Richmond's match committee faces selection headaches with several changes on the cards for Round 1

SELECTION TABLE

Richmond could have six changes from its losing elimination final side when it plays Gold Coast on Saturday night.

POSSIBLE INS

Matt McDonough, Shaun Hampson, Nathan Foley, Matt Thomas, Sam Lloyd, Ben Griffiths or Orren Stephenson, David Astbury

POSSIBLE OUTS

Dylan Grimes, Ivan Maric, Daniel Jackson, Shane Tuck, Aaron Edwards, Jake King


www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-match-committee-faces-selection-headaches-with-several-changes-on-the-cards-for-round-1/story-fndv8t7m-122685293560

Going by this the side will look something like:

B:   Morris      Rance       Astbury
HB: Martin      Chaplin     Houli
C:   Ellis          Cotchin    Conca
HF: Newman    Riewoldt   S.Edwards
F:   Griffiths     Vickery    Lloyd
R:   Hampson   Deledio   Thomas
Int: Grigg, Vlastuin, McDonough
Sub: Foley

Emg: Petterd, King, Stephenson
   

Injured: Maric, Jackson, Lennon.

Underdone: Grimes, Knights.

Overlooked: A.Edwards, Dea, Batchelor, Helbig, McIntosh, McBean, Gordon, Elton, O'Hanlon, Arnot, Banfield#, Miles#, Williams#, Darrou#

Worried about griggster