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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 02, 2016, 12:47:04 PM
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Wallace: Tigers should talk to Cloke
Herald-Sun
May 2, 2016
FORMER Richmond coach Terry Wallace has panned the Tigers’ recruiting and says they should talk to Collingwood forward Travis Cloke about a potential trade.
The Tigers this morning rubbished rumours Cloke was interested in a move to Punt Rd.
Wallace, who coached the Tigers from 2005-09 before the arrival of Damien Hardwick, says the club “has to knock that (rumour) on the head” but should be putting out feelers behind the scenes.
“I would be surprised if they weren’t having conversation with him, to be honest,” he said on SEN.
“It doesn’t mean you’re locking into a person ... I think you go through those conversations before you decide you’re either locking into someone or you aren’t.”
Cloke, 29, has spent the past two weeks in the VFL as he looks to rediscover the form that saw him become one of the best key forwards in the game in recent years. He is contracted to the end of next season.
It was reported on SEN this morning that Cloke’s management has apparently been in discussions with the Tigers “for at least a month ... exploring possibilities about his future”.
But Richmond football manager Dan Richardson told the station: “I’m not aware of it. That’s not the case.
“I doubt it (would be happening without me knowing). I would think not.”
Richardson said the Tigers “will continue to look at our list”, but wouldn’t be drawn on whether Cloke would be a potential trade target.
“We’ll continue to look at our list, we’ll continue to search for ways to improve that list, whether it be through the draft, through trading or through free agency,” he said.
“I don’t think it’s appropriate to talk about players from other clubs in Round 6 of the season.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/travis-cloke-talks-rumours-are-incorrect-says-richmond-football-boss/news-story/79eaff305c8e1ad4d249605db1bd30b4
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Sounds like something we'd do.......
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Francis Leach was the one on SEN breakfast who first raised it.
They did ask Dan Richardson about, he denied it but just don't believe anything that comes out of the place at the moment
Said it before we are a dishonest footy club
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I am ok with as long as Chaplin as Hampson are atill used in te forward line
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Lmao. As if
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Francis Leach was the one on SEN breakfast who first raised it.
They did ask Dan Richardson about, he denied it but just don't believe anything that comes out of the place at the moment
Said it before we are a dishonest footy club
Have you raised that point - the one of being dishonest - directly to the club?
There are some great forums, that as a paying member you are invited into and I think it would be interesting (and valid) for you to raise the point of dishonesty along with the numerous examples that substantiate your point.
Club should be engaging supporters for feedback right now and get the front foot and we are the reason the club exists.
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Epic :lol....why not add another nail to the coffin. This club will do and say anything to ameliorate their culpability for the predicament they are in.
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Epic :lol....why not add another nail to the coffin. This club will do and say anything to ameliorate their culpability for the predicament they are in.
Relax. It's only rumour.
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Francis Leach was the one on SEN breakfast who first raised it.
They did ask Dan Richardson about, he denied it but just don't believe anything that comes out of the place at the moment
Said it before we are a dishonest footy club
Have you raised that point - the one of being dishonest - directly to the club?
There are some great forums, that as a paying member you are invited into and I think it would be interesting (and valid) for you to raise the point of dishonesty along with the numerous examples that substantiate your point.
Club should be engaging supporters for feedback right now and get the front foot and we are the reason the club exists.
good point. WP you go to a lot of these functions, so tell me what questions have you asked of these imbeciles that have no idea how to run a successful football club?
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hahaha, lol. god. didn't i call this years ago...or was it last year. No doubt someone will find my Cloke posts like they did recently... :snidegrin
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:facepalm
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:facepalm
:snidegrin
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:chuck
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ah, good. peter pumpkin eater is back.
now Hardwick will be held accountable.
Cant wait to see how this pans out.
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ah, good. peter pumpkin eater is back.
now Hardwick will be held accountable.
Cant wait to see how this pans out.
Yeah, some of us have a life..
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Pass :thumbsdown
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ah, good. peter pumpkin eater is back.
now Hardwick will be held accountable.
Cant wait to see how this pans out.
Yeah, some of us have a life..
so he wont be held accountable? very disapointing
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ah, good. peter pumpkin eater is back.
now Hardwick will be held accountable.
Cant wait to see how this pans out.
Yeah, some of us have a life..
so he wont be held accountable? very disapointing
What are you on about, are you mentally challenged?????
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:lol
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I think it's a great move, get it done tigers!!
Cloke, Vickery, Hampson in the forward line. Oh boy wowed :shh
Should get jack to lose a few more kilos and stay permanently on the wing :shh
:birthday
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I think it's a great move, get it done tigers!!
Cloke, Vickery, Hampson in the forward line. Oh boy wowed :shh
Should get jack to lose a few more kilos and stay permanently on the wing :shh
:birthday
chaplin
grigg on a hff
:gotigers
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Anyone remember old man cloke coming back to Richmond circa 1990?
Eff all of em
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GET IT DONE! NO EXCUSES! DIMMA IT'S ALL ON YOU!
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If this happens we should put the for sale sign up at punt road :banghead.
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I WANT A BIG FISH
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Have we signed up Cloke yet?
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Have we signed up Cloke yet?
Currently negotiating for his brothers as well in a package deal
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Have we signed up Cloke yet?
Currently negotiating for his brothers as well in a package deal
Get it done!!!!
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Have we signed up Cloke yet?
Currently negotiating for his brothers as well in a package deal
Yes, Chaplin, Morris and Hunt to Craigiburn for Cameron and Jason.
I'm not sure if Craigiburn would see that as a fair swap ;D
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played a blinder today.... :snidegrin
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How'd I know some nuffer would bring this up after one good game in 3 years :lol :lol :lol. Typical it would be the head of the mediocrity committee
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4 goals ohhhhhhh
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How'd I know some nuffer would bring this up after one good game in 3 years :lol :lol :lol. Typical it would be the head of the mediocrity committee
Probably still regrets David Bourke being delisted
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:facepalm
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The Cloke family can get stuffed.
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The Cloke family can get stuffed.
X2
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Honestly some people, if they're not stuffing stupid then they surely are the biggest troll on here
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THOUGH SHALT NOT PASS Never let their cursed name darken our doorstep again.
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It's easy pickings.... :fishing
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AFL great Tim Watson says Richmond must look at recruiting Collingwood forward Travis Cloke
Liam Twomey
Herald Sun
August 12, 2016 8:15am
AFL great Tim Watson believes Richmond must look at recruiting out of favour Collingwood forward Travis Cloke.
Cloke was yesterday dropped for the third time this season and is likely to leave the Holden Centre at the end of the year.
Watson said the Tigers should consider adding Cloke to partner Jack Riewoldt in the forward 50.
“It is a glaring hole in Richmond’s game to have somebody that Jack Riewoldt can play with consistently,” Watson said on SEN 1116.
“Travis has to prove that he is a consistent player again but you would have to look at him if you were Richmond.”
Watson was confident Cloke could once again find his best football.
The forward has kicked just 15 goals for the Magpies this season. He hasn’t kicked over 40 goals in a season since 2014.
“I don’t think he is done. I really don’t think he is done,” Watson said.
“I actually think it is more about his mental attitude and the way that he approaches the game and where he is at, with probably not believing that there is a future for him at Collingwood.
“Whoever takes him on is probably going to pay $300-$400 (thousand). It would be a highly incentivised contract with Travis Cloke where he is at right now.”
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/afl-great-tim-watson-says-richmond-must-look-at-recruiting-collingwood-forward-travis-cloke/news-story/f526929871559c29e900b7c612059d31
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Do. Not. Want.
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If Timmy thinks he's so good, how about Essendon, great replacement for Hurley
What a stich up
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Play him down back...upgrade on Astbury...
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It's incredible how stupid some of these commentators are.
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reckon cloke could be real value to the tiges. You don't lose your ability just your confidence
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reckon cloke could be real value to the tiges. You don't lose your ability just your confidence
Fortunately for opposition sides, Clokes 'abilities' have been rendered largely superfluos to the modern game.
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reckon cloke could be real value to the tiges. You don't lose your ability just your confidence
Now we know you must of played for Richmond post Northey.
Classic case of Tigeritis with that opinion.
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Oh stuffin please
Not any of these sports commentators, journos etc speak any sense
Which leads me to believe they're all switched on and running to an agenda
Tim great idea! You take Cloke instead stuffwit
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reckon cloke could be real value to the tiges. You don't lose your ability just your confidence
Now we know you must of played for Richmond post Northey.
Classic case of Tigeritis with that opinion.
Yep
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Watson = troll :shh
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Cloke has been dropped 3 times and had a really poor year- and yet he has still kicked more goals than Biff.
Seriously funny the way we hold out hope on poo trucks.
Even funnier is this is probably Biff's best year.
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Play him down back...upgrade on Astbury...
Play him in the ruck....upgrade on Hampson...
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It's incredible how stupid some of these commentators are.
Relax, it's a wind up
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rookie.
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Hairy idiot
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How bout focusing on getting you drug cheating flog son to give chimp his medal you old tosser
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Donkey gets toweled up every week and can't take a mark without his magistick mitten on anyway. No to the turncoat spawn.
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If he comes at the right price I would take him to help Jack out personally, unless we can snag a younger prospect.
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If he comes at the right price I would take him to help Jack out personally, unless we can snag a younger prospect.
Wash your mouth out
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Didn't Timmy say we needed a full rebuild only a couple of weeks ago .
We have Vickery and Griffiths who both are mentally fragile. Cloke is just an older version.
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just putting it out there for Watson.... Ess need a fwd more than we do.....
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The old Man was a respected premiership player but chose the filth over loyalty. Shouldn't be allowed back IMO nor any of his money hungry offspring that again chose the filth over us.
The traitor Cloke family can go and get stuffed.
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"mmmmm it's a bit late about Cloke as he had a meeting with Damo 3 weeks ago"
https://twitter.com/Andrew45455756/status/764348876060958720
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Laughing stock :shh
Great Richmond people are the family :shh
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"mmmmm it's a bit late about Cloke as he had a meeting with Damo 3 weeks ago"
https://twitter.com/Andrew45455756/status/764348876060958720
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
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The old Man was a respected premiership player but chose the filth over loyalty. Shouldn't be allowed back IMO nor any of his money hungry offspring that again chose the filth over us.
The traitor Cloke family can go and get stuffed.
IDGAF about this.
It's business and history.
I just don't want him because he's a stuffn shitman.
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Would prefer to get Brad Miller back out of retirement.
Was always good for a handpass out the back.
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Would prefer to get Brad Miller back out of retirement.
Was always good for a handpass out the back.
Didn't Uncle Coach Petey Big Boy used to say that? :snidegrin
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When is Jobe returning with Cotchin Brownlow medal. Sure he can't keep a Brownlow after being punished for using a enhancer :snidegrin
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Richmond can’t afford a bust: Connolly
Joshua Papanikolaou
SEN
15 Aug 2016, 03:22PM
Of all the clubs who may be interested in out-of-favour Collingwood veteran Travis Cloke there is no doubt Richmond is the one that can least afford to take a chance on him that does not turn out, says Rohan Connolly.
The 29-year-old played in the VFL again on the weekend, the third time he has been dropped from the senior team this season due to poor form.
After twelve years at the Magpies he has managed just 15 goals from twelve games in 2016 with the Tigers earmarked as a realistic destination next season.
“Even if you’re not a Jesse White fan you’d have to concede some of his better games have been this year, he’s played a couple of okay games,” said Connolly on SEN radio.
“I’ve heard that yeah (that a club has already told Cloke they are prepared to take him next year), I’ve heard Bulldogs thrown up but Richmond seems to be the popular destination.
“Absolutely (the Tigers have more to lose than any other club rolling the dice with Travis Cloke), I couldn’t agree more, they’re the most vulnerable for a trade of an experienced player gone wrong.
“Well the Bulldogs after Tom Boyd they would probably be a bit wary as well.
“It’s a really interesting scenario because the Richmond administration has gone to great lengths to give the impression of stability and they’re not the basket case of the previous 20 years.
“Good on them for doing that, however that has led to accusations of being inactive because they’re so paranoid about that perception.”
If Cloke does become eligible to play in the finals for the Pies’ VFL team by the end of the season and does feature for them that would surely suggest he will not see out his contract at the Holden Centre.
“From a public relations point of view if they do (play him in the VFL finals) he’s as good as gone,” said Connolly.
“They haven’t (said that publicly yet), if they were to give him another VFL game to make him eligible for their finals they’d have to come out and say that’s it.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/08-16/richmond-can-t-afford-a-bust-connolly#dw5rv60YJhDWz4Wi.97
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Andy Maher on SEN said the Cloke's believe one club is definitely after Travis and he added the rumours are that club is Richmond. Connolly replied he's also heard that rumour.
On the other hand, Mark Stevens on Ch 7 last night said the kennel may be Cloke's home in 2017.
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Cloke had a meeting with Hardwick 3.5 weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/Andrew45455756/status/765432152926269440
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Fair dinkum, if he ends up at Richmond i will be more embarassed than after the 3 finals losses.
Surely not......
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Please god no
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No way Jose :banghead :banghead
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I want it to happen only to see the meltdown on OER! :lol
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Won't be the only thing melting
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LOL at what classes as credible sources around here
I want it to happen only to see the meltdown on OER! :lol
WAT will be stoked - get his man and add to the cream :clapping
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My preference it to land a better CHF FA, but failing that, I would take Cloke for cheap.
Play him high CHF and let Jack play deep.
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Cloke and dagger so we can stab so.one if it happens
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LOL at what classes as credible sources around here
I want it to happen only to see the meltdown on OER! :lol
WAT will be stoked - get his man and add to the cream :clapping
Loves Clokey does WAT.
Just bizarre...
.My preference it to land a better CHF FA, but failing that, I would take Cloke for cheap.
Wash you mouth out Wilbur. There will be hell to pay if Cloke ends up at Richmond. Holy balls....
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Tigers ready to pounce on Cloke
The Australian
18 August 2016
Richmond are poised to make a bold play for out-of-favour Collingwood forward Travis Cloke, just over a decade after missing him as a father-son selection.
The Tigers could land two big fish in the post-grand final player exchange period, as they are also favoured to secure out-of-contract Gold Coast Suns midfielder Dion Prestia.
Cloke’s father, David, a two-time premiership player and captain of Richmond, acts as his son’s agent and is understood to have already held informal talks with Tigers list manager Blair Hartley, acting with the blessing of senior coach Damien Hardwick.
While at least two clubs have made inquiries, Richmond hold the frontrunning for Cloke, 29, who is playing his third stint in the VFL this season due to poor form.
Cloke is contracted to Collingwood for next year but the Magpies will let him go for the right deal. It remains unclear whether they will pay some of the final year of Cloke’s guaranteed remuneration to get that deal done, which has become common practice.
It is also unclear what Richmond will offer in exchange for Cloke but Collingwood could do with draft picks if they are looking to bring in players from other clubs.
Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley said earlier this week they would again be taking an aggressive approach to trade week after securing several players from rivals last year, topped off by Adam Treloar from GWS.
After being hotly chased by Carlton and Fremantle when he was last coming out of contract, Cloke re-signed with the Magpies on a long-term deal. His earnings this season are about $900,000, but drop to $500,000 next year.
Richmond’s pursuit of Cloke is expected to intensify if and when they are informed that Ty Vickery wants out via free agency.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-set-to-make-play-for-out-of-favour-magpie-travis-cloke/news-story/fd0b598cc13b7a29806a002a1d3d21a4
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Cloke a big fish :lol
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far cough
seriously....
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Haha i dont know why but i believe its going to happen. Cloke to richmond ffs.
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Like the good old days
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Like the good old days
It's like we are stuck in a time warp....
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Surely we wont.........i mean, we just couldnt.......
Our list managers are not THAT stupid....are they?
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I think it's FANTASTIC really :shh
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If we can get 100 games into him then surely his sons will choose us.
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Cloke, Yarran, Hunt, Grigg, Houli, Chaplin, Hampson.
The reason we don't need a rebuild.
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Turns 30 start of next year.
See how he goes in the back line developing his defensive game.
Then move him to the forward line in the twilight of his career when he's basically cooked.
Oh wait...
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Is this little stuffer on drugs or just trying to destabilise RFC as he is a bitter little stuff
First he wants our only elite mid banned for something he didnt do and then he spouts the below stuffing nonsense
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/travis-cloke-could-be-the-missing-piece-of-the-puzzle-at-richmond-kevin-bartlett-says/news-story/339bb16470c91a90172c84ab2b2f0f7e
Flog
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Cloke a Tiger? Hardwick refuses to comment
AFL.com.au
18 August 2016
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has refused to address reports of the club's interest in Travis Cloke, but is in no doubt the out-of-favour Collingwood spearhead remains a "great player".
Richmond has opened informal talks with Cloke's manager and father, David, and leads the race for his signature despite previous speculation the Western Bulldogs were his most likely new home, according to a News Ltd report on Thursday.
Cloke is contracted for next season but his future at Collingwood has become more and more clouded this year as he endures extended stints in the VFL while Darcy Moore, 20, becomes the focal point of the Magpies' attack.
The 29-year-old was dropped for the third time this year after Collingwood's round 20 loss to Richmond and could have played his last senior game in a black-and-white jumper.
Ironically, he could now play his next AFL game for the Tigers, the club where his father won two premierships and played 219 games either side of a seven-season stint at Collingwood.
However, Hardwick did not shed any light on the level of the Tigers' interest in Cloke when he spoke to reporters on Thursday.
"[It's] a list management decision (that) we don't comment on. It's easy to throw names around at this stage of the year, it always happens," Hardwick said.
But when asked if he had rated Cloke as a player across his 245-game career with Collingwood, Hardwick was quick to sing the spearhead's praises.
"Absolutely. He's hurt us a number of times over the course of his career, hasn't he?" Hardwick said.
"I think funnily enough he was probably Alex (Rance's) biggest nemesis there for a while. Alex has managed to move above him over the last couple of years, but he's a great player there's no doubt about that.
"But from our point of view we keep our cards pretty close to our chest."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-18/cloke-a-tiger-hardwick-refuses-to-comment
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so the clokes want back in to Punt Road after flogging us off in the past. If i recall none of the brothers wanted to come to punt road or damir insisted they didnt.
FO
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All the Clokes and their bum picker dad can go and rot at filth park.
If the club does this, on principle I don't think I can renew.
What a basket case this club is.
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http://youtu.be/pBZs_Py-1_0
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KB's take: Cloke could be missing part of Tigers puzzle
Kevin Bartlett
SEN
18 Aug 2016, 10:21AM
Greg Denham in The Australian today says Travis Cloke is off to Richmond.
His father, former Tiger Champ David has held talks with Tigers list manager Blair Hartley. Now what the Tigers have to give up for Cloke is still to be determined.
I believe Cloke needs a new home and environment and a lot of love for he seems a confused footballer to me.
And surely he would be comfortable going to a club that his father once captained.
I recently saw Cloke play against the Giants when he kicked 5 goals against one of the best sides in the competition. On that day he looked like the match winner of old.
The Tigers big man forward set up hasn’t clicked with Tyrone Vickery and Ben Griffiths in recent years and going on Dimma Hardwick’s comments during the week that Richmond not only would be playing finals in 2017 but winning finals as well.
Surely that tells us he has a new forward line set up going forward.
The Tigers missed out on Cloke 11 years ago, it’s better late than never. For he just might be the missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle that sees the Tigers winning a final.
I’m KB, that’s my take
https://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/08-16/kbs-take-cloke-could-be-missing-part-of-tigers-puzzle
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Has he apologised to Dusty yet
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NO WAY. Would be a terrible decision to recruit him.
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But he's a great player. ....
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Unless we get for nothing but even then he may be a list clogger.
He is not fit and doesn't put the effort in as he did at his best
Haven't we learnt by playing the kids (later in the year) that youth is the best way.
Unless they are young or A graders I would be giving up more than a player marked as a delist player
What other side is willing to trade more than a mars bar for Cloke
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Halfwit knows what he's doing people. Calm down.
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Who was the poster that said he had it on good authority that richmond were going to go down the path of topping up and giving it one last crack? Seems he/she was bang on, this is an absolute stuffing joke if true
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Who was the poster that said he had it on good authority that richmond were going to go down the path of topping up and giving it one last crack? Seems he/she was bang on, this is an absolute stuffing joke if true
Do you need a science degree to figure out that this is what these losers are gonna do?
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Who was the poster that said he had it on good authority that richmond were going to go down the path of topping up and giving it one last crack? Seems he/she was bang on, this is an absolute stuffing joke if true
Do you need a science degree to figure out that this is what these losers are gonna do?
touche
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What happened to "no more short cuts" Dimma? :rollin
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Who was the poster that said he had it on good authority that richmond were going to go down the path of topping up and giving it one last crack? Seems he/she was bang on, this is an absolute stuffing joke if true
Do you need a science degree to figure out that this is what these losers are gonna do?
touche
You can read them like a comic book
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that feeling when you accept that they entire club represents failure. :clapping
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that feeling when you accept that they entire club represents failure. :clapping
Yeah it's stuffin great
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so the clokes want back in to Punt Road after flogging us off in the past. If i recall none of the brothers wanted to come to punt road or damir insisted they didnt.
FO
This. FTO
Its 1990 all over again.
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Said it before we are a dishonest footy club
So THAT'S why they got a copper on the board.
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Cloke > vickery
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Well that's just......actually true.....
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The Tigers are set to make a pitch for Cloke, who has been dropped to the VFL for the third time this year, with reports that the forward’s father David has already held initial discussions with the club’s list manager Blair Hartley.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-set-to-make-a-pitch-for-collingwood-forward-travis-cloke/news-story/f06d17d5b37dd42bf1b8d30461ca7657
Cloke’s father David, a two-time premiership player and captain of Richmond, acts as his son’s agent and The Australian revealed he had been in talks with Tigers list manager Blair Hartley, acting with the blessing of Hardwick.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-fuels-speculation-on-tigers-travis-cloke-chase/news-story/3eb8a072370a21d9202192b905883c5e
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So bad its embarrasing.
A new level of shame. What a joke this club is.
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The club will reach new depths if he is recruited.
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I doubt I could stomach him as a FA, but to pay Collingwood via a trade for his services is ridiculous.
What has happened to our club? Have they completely lost their marbles?
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At the risk of no holds barred abuse (which I can handle ;D) Im not sure what all the fuss is about. At his best, he's a massive upgrade on Vickery and Griffiths - at least he has a friggin tank.
At worst, he plays a year in the reserves and gets delisted.
What is a better alternative?
Don't tell me it's anyone on our list and no one is available of any quality.
If he could get himself fit, he's running would allow Jack to play further back inside 50 and takes a tall defender away from double teaming Jack inside 50..
The only issue is what we trade for him - which should be stuff all.
What we need is a talented, young KPF who can develop for 2-3 years before taking over.
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At the risk of no holds barred abuse (which I can handle ;D) Im not sure what all the fuss is about. At his best, he's a massive upgrade on Vickery and Griffiths - at least he has a friggin tank.
At worst, he plays a year in the reserves and gets delisted.
What is a better alternative?
Don't tell me it's anyone on our list and no one is available of any quality.
If he could get himself fit, he's running would allow Jack to play further back inside 50 and takes a tall defender away from double teaming Jack inside 50..
The only issue is what we trade for him - which should be stuff all.
What we need is a talented, young KPF who can develop for 2-3 years before takixng over.
I guess it's because he has done SFA for the last 2 years as their number 1 forward. I know everyone compares his output to Ty and Ben but they are not our number one forwards. Jack is. Ben spends half the time around the ground and rucking. They've now done this to Cloke and he's been hopeless. Sure he may play the odd good game but we already have that with the 2 younger players mentioned.
Look what happens when we introduce kids. They inject excitement. The only thing the Clokes may introduce is excrement.
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At the risk of no holds barred abuse (which I can handle ;D) Im not sure what all the fuss is about. At his best, he's a massive upgrade on Vickery and Griffiths - at least he has a friggin tank.
At worst, he plays a year in the reserves and gets delisted.
What is a better alternative?
Don't tell me it's anyone on our list and no one is available of any quality.
If he could get himself fit, he's running would allow Jack to play further back inside 50 and takes a tall defender away from double teaming Jack inside 50..
The only issue is what we trade for him - which should be stuff all.
What we need is a talented, young KPF who can develop for 2-3 years before taking over.
Yeah fair point spose. Must be tough at the pies competing against jesse white and mason cox for a spot
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At the risk of no holds barred abuse (which I can handle ;D) Im not sure what all the fuss is about. At his best, he's a massive upgrade on Vickery and Griffiths - at least he has a friggin tank.
At worst, he plays a year in the reserves and gets delisted.
What is a better alternative?
Don't tell me it's anyone on our list and no one is available of any quality.
If he could get himself fit, he's running would allow Jack to play further back inside 50 and takes a tall defender away from double teaming Jack inside 50..
The only issue is what we trade for him - which should be stuff all.
What we need is a talented, young KPF who can develop for 2-3 years before takixng over.
I guess it's because he has done SFA for the last 2 years as their number 1 forward. I know everyone compares his output to Ty and Ben but they are not our number one forwards. Jack is. Ben spends half the time around the ground and rucking. They've now done this to Cloke and he's been hopeless. Sure he may play the odd good game but we already have that with the 2 younger players mentioned.
Look what happens when we introduce kids. They inject excitement. The only thing the Clokes may introduce is excrement.
Cloke is a pootruck in a long line of pootrucks we have recruited from other clubs, I dont pay my membership to watch pootrucks from other clubs, I would prefer to watch our drafted pootrucks
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Can get Richo to fix his goalkicking yips :snidegrin
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Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
Can we just hurry up with the inevitable and sack hardwick and his mate dan.
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I know everyone compares his output to Ty and Ben but they are not our number one forwards. Jack is.
No point comparing him to Jack, rather the bloke/s he's going to replace. So it's apt to compare him to Vickery and Griff. Saying that, I doubt he'd replace Griff. It'd be a Jack, Cloke and Griff line up for sure. Unless they have Moore penned in for more ruck duties :lol
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Almighty Dimma will play cloke and Tyrone
:bow
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It's time to grab the torches and pikes..!!!!!
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cloke well what can we say if it wasn't for davids wife he may have been a tiger from the world go... he maybe the stay at home target get jack like he is up the ground I think he could be of more value then ty even interesting to see ty wear the glove on sunday maybe telling dimma I can wear and play like cloke as well hahaha
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Will never get the stank of collingwood off of that family now. They are dead to us.
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As much as I hate Cloke I'd be happy to see him backing up Jack and at least taking another KPD off him so he's not 1 vs 2 or 3 all the time.
Just need Cloke to trim up a bit. He's too slow.
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As much as I hate Cloke I'd be happy to see him backing up Jack and at least taking another KPD off him so he's not 1 vs 2 or 3 all the time.
If you truly hate him the mere sight of him, you wouldnt dare tolerate him in our holy jumper
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As much as I hate Cloke I'd be happy to see him backing up Jack and at least taking another KPD off him so he's not 1 vs 2 or 3 all the time.
If you truly hate him the mere sight of him, you wouldnt dare tolerate him in our holy jumper
Just because I hate him doesn't mean he's not a good player. Question is whether or not he can be serviceable for 2-3 years.
I'm not silly enough to hate anybody to the point that I'd never let them play for RFC. Club comes first 😊
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As much as I hate Cloke I'd be happy to see him backing up Jack and at least taking another KPD off him so he's not 1 vs 2 or 3 all the time.
If you truly hate him the mere sight of him, you wouldnt dare tolerate him in our holy jumper
Just because I hate him doesn't mean he's not a good player. Question is whether or not he can be serviceable for 2-3 years.
I'm not silly enough to hate anybody to the point that I'd never let them play for RFC. Club comes first 😊
Just like old man cloke hey
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Im just hoping C.moore or Elton kick a bag of 8+ tomorrow so we can put this cloke nonsense to bed.
Will he help us win a GF? no, so i would forget about him and put our efforts into developing C.Moore and Chol and trying to land Tomlinson or Patton if we want a more mature body up there. Lennon still has currency and will net us a top 20 pick
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Can't gets game at Collingwood because he's finished.
Hope and pray it doesn't happen.
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Oh well at least he will take the focus off Hampson
You can never have too many spuds on the list
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Should i ask "surely the club can't be that stupid"?
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Im just hoping C.moore or Elton kick a bag of 8+ tomorrow so we can put this cloke nonsense to bed.
Will he help us win a GF? no, so i would forget about him and put our efforts into developing C.Moore and Chol and trying to land Tomlinson or Patton if we want a more mature body up there. Lennon still has currency and will net us a top 20 pick
could pick 6 get Patton?
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Will never get the stank of collingwood off of that family now. They are dead to us.
:clapping
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Im just hoping C.moore or Elton kick a bag of 8+ tomorrow so we can put this cloke nonsense to bed.
Will he help us win a GF? no, so i would forget about him and put our efforts into developing C.Moore and Chol and trying to land Tomlinson or Patton if we want a more mature body up there. Lennon still has currency and will net us a top 20 pick
Well said Tone.
Enough of this poo.
The only players we want from other clubs are kids with upside.
It's like watching Groundhog Day each year with our club. We think we can miraculously make average players better than what they have been at their existing clubs. Wake the stuff up RFC and draft talented kids and develop them. Big, strong, competitive kids.
FO Cloke!
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Im just hoping C.moore or Elton kick a bag of 8+ tomorrow so we can put this cloke nonsense to bed.
Will he help us win a GF? no, so i would forget about him and put our efforts into developing C.Moore and Chol and trying to land Tomlinson or Patton if we want a more mature body up there. Lennon still has currency and will net us a top 20 pick
Well said Tone.
Enough of this poo.
The only players we want from other clubs are kids with upside.
It's like watching Groundhog Day each year with our club. We think we can miraculously make average players better than what they have been at their existing clubs. Wake the stuff up RFC and draft talented kids and develop them. Big, strong, competitive kids.
FO Cloke!
Agree whole heartedly, will spew chunks if we draft Cloke
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l fear another tragic decision coming if we sign him l'm off to barrack for Melbourne till l die ;D
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l fear another tragic decision coming if we sign him l'm off to barrack for Melbourne till l die ;D
Hawthorn for me
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Cloke in our side today we win. Simple.
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Cloke in our side today we win. Simple.
Today? You mean in the VFL?
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Cloke in our side today we win. Simple.
Carlisle whom the saints have next year
Would have pantz cloke
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Cloke in our side today we win. Simple.
Cloke can't even get a game in the Collingwood AFL. You must be one of the Cloke's family :rollin
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Cloke in our side today we win. Simple.
:lol :clapping
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Cloke in our side today we win. Simple.
Cloke can't even get a game in the Collingwood AFL. You must be one of the Cloke's family :rollin
Or boyfriend
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Unless Collingwood is going to give us player so they can get salary cap relief. If not it would be insane
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Waste of space.
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Unless Collingwood is going to give us player so they can get salary cap relief. If not it would be insane
Why should we help Collingwood?
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Cloke is the cream on top.
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Yeah we should do everything we can to help collingwood, they have always had our best interests at heart, Treloar says hi. stuff Cloke and the mudlarks.
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https://www.facebook.com/AFLSundayFootyShow/videos/1160866327290031/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
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https://www.facebook.com/AFLSundayFootyShow/videos/1160866327290031/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
Wow. Can Hammer,Griff and Todd wear those gloves?
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i saw that - wow htf can someone be able to wear something like that?
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i saw that - wow htf can someone be able to wear something like that?
l seen that. Never knew they stuck that good. No wonder he has good hands Cloke. l suppose if he is clever enough to think of using it then so be it
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Donkey got found out lol
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i saw that - wow htf can someone be able to wear something like that?
To clarify, it's not his "regular" glove but rather a newer model, one that hadn't been approved by the AFL
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they claimed he wore it against GWS?
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they claimed he wore it against GWS?
He did wear them.... :gobdrop
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Didn't his name used to be spelt C L O A K ?
That's weird.
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That's just u misremembering
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lay off the booze ox. Cloaca did get done for wearing a dodgy glove
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If we pick up Cloke we are well and truely the biggest laughing stock in the afl, if we weren't already.
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If we pick up Cloke we are well and truely the biggest laughing stock in the afl, if we weren't already.
We already are, this is just the cream on top
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they claimed he wore it against GWS?
Maybe my clarification wasn't that clear :lol
He usually wears a different one. He wore that one against GWS (not sure if anyone else?) but it hadn't been approved. So he got a fine and had to go back to his old glove.
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they claimed he wore it against GWS?
Maybe my clarification wasn't that clear :lol
He usually wears a different one. He wore that one against GWS (not sure if anyone else?) but it hadn't been approved. So he got a fine and had to go back to his old glove.
If GWS miss out on a top 4 spot because of that game....
I could not care less.....
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they claimed he wore it against GWS?
Maybe my clarification wasn't that clear :lol
He usually wears a different one. He wore that one against GWS (not sure if anyone else?) but it hadn't been approved. So he got a fine and had to go back to his old glove.
cheers, wasnt aware of the fine
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they claimed he wore it against GWS?
Maybe my clarification wasn't that clear :lol
He usually wears a different one. He wore that one against GWS (not sure if anyone else?) but it hadn't been approved. So he got a fine and had to go back to his old glove.
cheers, wasnt aware of the fine
Was a small one. Glove wasn't banned as it hadn't been tested or whatever they do to approve it.
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Didn't his name used to be spelt C L O A K ?
That's weird.
Oh my God, so its not just me?
I couldve sworn it was CLOAK too
:gobdrop
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Nope:
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z255/richo01/19701979/77SCAN5.jpg)
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Peter Cloke, his older brother, played half a dozen games for us too...
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Nope:
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z255/richo01/19701979/77SCAN5.jpg)
Sons never lived up to the old man.
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Nope:
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z255/richo01/19701979/77SCAN5.jpg)
That's been tampered with.
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you all need to lay off the p!55
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Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley has dismissed suggestions Travis Cloke will play his last game for the Magpies this weekend.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-25/buckley-dismisses-speculation-on-clokes-future
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Nope:
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z255/richo01/19701979/77SCAN5.jpg)
That's been tampered with.
maybe in your timeline
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you all need to lay off the p!55
I think i need another beer or 10
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"A washed-up, old has-been walked into Punt Road..."
By AFL Insider
sportingnews.com.au
27 August 2016
There’s no doubt 2017 has been an absolute crapier of a year for the Richmond Football Club, but some of the talk coming from ‘experts’ about what the Tigers need to do next is just airtime-filling nonsense.
The idea of trading any or all of Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin is popular among commentators, but dumping their two best inside midfielders and only decent key forward when those are the exact areas the Tigers need to fix, would set the club back below the ‘rebuild’ mark.
With Sun Dion Prestia highly likely to land at Punt Road they are addressing the first deficiency perfectly, and now need to target a genuine big-bodied forward.
I said recently it wasn’t going to happen, but expect Richmond to pick up Travis Cloke in the trade period. They’ll get him virtually for free and he’ll be perfect playing from the goalsquare for the next two years.
Getting Cloke will make Richmond a laughing stock in the football world over summer, but the joke may be on everyone else come this time next year.
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/a-washed-up-old-has-been-walked-into-punt-road-richmond-collingwood-travis-cloke-afl/ekmcy8nfvnez1nmh2ufenmelc
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Especially if he sneaks in wearing those gloves! :snidegrin
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stuff me sideways with a car axle they gonna do this?
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It's all just smoke and shadows behind the windows and we regretly won't have those regrets.....
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stuff me sideways with a car axle they gonna do this?
You wont believe your peepers Hooter, but sadly yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhBr0lPNuuU
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The forward line version of Chaplin is coming .
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IF AND IT IS A FREAKEN BIG IF, The club is right lol i laugh because it has been patently clear they get little right when it comes to actual ffoty and we are close to being a genuine contender then Cloke would be an ideal pick up for the club.
But seriously does anyone truly believe we are any chance of a premieship over the next 3 seasons.
What gets lost in all this is hardwick has done sweet stuff all in 7 yrs the list is in a similar place to when he came. We make the same mistakes in most areas and recruiting list management and development not just in harwicks time but over the last 12 yrs whoich includes the same people in charge has remained horrid.yet there are supporters who think it is not bad and will quickly improve despite the 12 yr history of those in charge.It really is madness.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhBr0lPNuuU
:lol
The forward line version of Chaplin is coming .
:lol
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This is actually gonna happen
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The Big Fish will just jump in the boat and land on our laps. :clapping
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This'll b the cherry on top of the cream on top of the iceberg.
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Forget manure being dumped on Monday
That cloke is one big sh1ttruck.
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:lol :jump :invasion
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This'll b the cherry on top of the cream on top of the iceberg.
:bow :lol
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Comedy Gold
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Mmmmmm Creamberg
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Watching him today
I would pick up him up if Pies were to pay some of his salary
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Just reaching his peak....get him. Did more today than Ty did in the whole season.
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Cloke's name has been linked with the Western Bulldogs, which lost big forward Jack Redpath to a knee injury in 2016.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-29/talks-to-make-clearer-travis-clokes-future-at-collingwood
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Let's hope the club has a bit of respect for itself and tells all the Clokes to FO. These pricks never wanted anything to do with us.
All David's sons had a choice and all of them chose Collingwood over us.
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Let's hope the club has a bit of respect for itself and tells all the Clokes to FO. These pricks never wanted anything to do with us.
All David's sons had a choice and all of them chose Collingwood over us.
So did David and he was oFF in 1983 after being our captain, before greed was good.
Absolute mercenary $$$$$$$$$
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Let's hope the club has a bit of respect for itself and tells all the Clokes to FO. These pricks never wanted anything to do with us.
All David's sons had a choice and all of them chose Collingwood over us.
So did David and he was oFF in 1983 after being our captain, before greed was good.
Absolute mercenary $$$$$$$$$
Plus Travis is done!
It's a pretty easy one IMO.
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If Travis is done,then he's their man!
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If Travis is done,then he's their man!
One part stupidity, one part biatches
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Travis Cloke seeks Collingwood departure, has met with trio of opposing clubs
SAM EDMUND, Herald Sun
August 29, 2016 8:00pm
TRAVIS Cloke has met with Richmond, the Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne as he plots an escape route out of Collingwood.
The Herald Sun can reveal the out-of-favour Pies goalkicker has held meetings with coaches Damien Hardwick, Luke Beveridge and Brad Scott.
It’s understood Beveridge is the most keen of the trio to lure the 29-year-old, who is desperate to get out of Collingwood.
Scott and the Kangaroos have since ruled out making a play for Cloke after a change in list-management direction led to the controversial delisting of Brent Harvey, as well as Drew Petrie, Michael Firrito and Nick Dal Santo.
The Dogs are in the box seat, with Cloke understood to favour a move to the Whitten Oval in what will most-likely be a two-year deal.
The dual All-Australian would partner Tom Boyd and the returning Stewart Crameri in attack in the absence of the injured Jack Redpath and Beveridge believes his inclusion would help solve his side’s efficiency problems inside 50m.
Any Pies-Dogs trade would be dependent on how much money Collingwood is willing to contribute to Cloke’s 2017 pay packet, which will reportedly be around the $400,000 mark.
Bulldogs midfielder Lin Jong, who toured the Magpies’ facilities in July and remains out of contract, could also be a factor in any deal.
Beveridge has been cagey on the topic of Cloke.
“We seem to be linked to everyone at the moment. I don’t know why,” Beveridge said when asked about the big Magpie this month.
“If we’re becoming that way because it’s been identified we’ve got a good environment, our players enjoy being here and our exploits on the field, that’s brilliant.
“It’s really encouraging, but it hasn’t been instigated by anyone here and I’m not sure where it’s all coming from.”
Cloke had his exit meeting with coach Nathan Buckley yesterday and will leave for a Bali holiday with fiance Rebeccah Panozza next week. He will have a Pies medical assessment tomorrow, but doesn’t need any off-season surgery.
At 29 and with an injury-free year behind him, the Cloke camp believe he has three good years ahead of him.
A 20-disposal, 12-mark, four-goal game in the Pies’ Round 16 win over Greater Western Sydney further encouraged potential suitors that Cloke could go a significant way towards recapturing the form that made him a dominant force in the game.
Hardwick earlier this month did nothing to douse speculation the Tigers could were circling the forward, declaring Cloke a “great player”.
“He’s hurt us a number of times over the course of his career, hasn’t he? I think funnily enough he was probably Alex (Rance’s) biggest nemesis there for a while. Alex has managed to move above him over the last couple of years, but he’s a great player there’s no doubt about that,” Hardwick said.
“But from our point of view we keep our cards pretty close to our chest.”
Cloke was dropped three times in a tumultuous 2016 season that saw him play only 13 games and fall behind Darcy Moore and Jesse White in the forward line pecking order.
He has 441 goals in 246 games after being drafted under the father-son rule in 2004.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/travis-cloke-seeks-collingwood-departure-has-met-with-trio-of-opposing-clubs/news-story/6e0f74aec07825b199c50c0503d2fbf9
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What a time to be alive.... :clapping
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Norf will do the right thing
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Norf will do the right thing
In their age bracket... :clapping
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Cloke officially wanting trade:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-30/veteran-forward-travis-cloke-requests-a-trade-from-collingwood
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:clapping the stars are aligning :pray
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:lol
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Our Big Fish.
(https://s11.postimg.org/axgczzeyb/image.jpg)
Name : Spinefoot
Food Rating : Read the text
Usually caught : From a boat over reef.
Habitat : Reef.
Found : Northern waters.
Notes : Spinefoot are also known as rabbit fish and happy moments. They have a number of venomous spines and it you are spiked they cause intense pain. Try not to handle these fish, simply cut your line and let them go.
Our Experiences : We have caught a number of these in the north west and even though we have been told they make good eating, the chance of getting spiked is not worth the risk. We just cut our lines without bringing the fish into the boat.
http://www.wanowandthen.com/fishing.html (http://www.wanowandthen.com/fishing.html)
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Travis Cloke will be playing for Richmond or the Western Bulldogs next year ... he is understood to have held informal talks with Tigers list manager Blair Hartley.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/travis-cloke-will-be-either-a-tiger-or-a-bulldog-next-season/news-story/1327c0fab8a71befda10b275f4572c5b
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Surely not....
The fact that its a 50/50 is bad enough
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May as well give our no 6 pick for him as well if collingwood ask for it.
If we get Cloke.....I give up
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May as well give our no 6 pick for him as well if collingwood ask for it.
If we get Cloke.....I give up
I know. Its like that huh.
Club are an effing debacle
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I've lost all interested in this club until I start seeing positive changes. If you ask me
We still haven't seen the worst of it yet, still making stupid decisions. If we get Cloke we will be an absolute laughing stock.
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Locked and loaded. Time to cream it up.
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Yes!
Very good way to go about it Tiges.
GET CLOKE... :gotigers
:clapping :clapping :clapping
GET CLOKE... :gotigers
IT"S GUNNA HAPPEN!!!!
:dancingpickle :dancing :woohoo
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The creamberg :clapping :clapping
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:lol
Travis Creamburg,
COME ON DOWN!!!!!!
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no matter how i try, i can't see how this makes any sense whatsoever. will likely be at dogs tho thankfully
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Blair Hartley.
Hope the 'extensive review' finds you.
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"Its found me very well, thanks for asking"
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no matter how i try, i can't see how this makes any sense whatsoever. will likely be at dogs tho thankfully
Try harder. If you squint you can actually see Lance Franklin.
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C'mon guys, climb aboard the roller coaster carriage named Cloke
The best parts of a roller coaster ride are the rapid downhill sections
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All abord the Creamberg Caboose!
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Barrett asked Cloke about going to Richmond. Cloke responded by saying there's obviously the family connection with dad playing there. He then said going to a successful club and culture is a big thing to him [ed. so that means not us].
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And confirmed it's not us.
Cloke has chosen the Doggies as his preferred club of choice.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-01/travis-cloke-chooses-dogs-as-preferred-club-of-choice
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:clapping
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:birthday :santa :dancing :phew :newyear :veryhappy :highclap :xmassign :woohoo
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Thank stuff
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FAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNTTTTTTTTAAAAAASSSSSSSTTTTTTTICCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is this another FAILURE by the club? The inability to attract players is becoming more and more obvious
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Great news. The real problem here is that we should have never been interested in Cloke. We should be looking at young players in the draft not recycled players.
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Very happy
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood/travis-cloke-says-leaving-collingwood-was-the-hardest-decision-hes-ever-had-to-make/news-story/965f74c05148e854ae5fed1b633372a4
DEPARTING Collingwood forward Travis Cloke has nominated the Western Bulldogs and Richmond as his preferred clubs for next season, saying he had no choice but to look elsewhere to restart his stalled AFL career.
Admitting the decision to walk away from the last year of his contract at Collingwood was one of the hardest of his life, Cloke said recent discussions with coach Nathan Buckley made him realise a move was the only way to move forward.
SEASON REVIEW: COLLINGWOOD’S 2016 REPORT CARD
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FRESH START: TARRANT WARNS CLOKE ABOUT CHANGE
And the 29-year-old dual All-Australian is adamant he can return to the form that once saw him as one of the league’s best power forwards, saying he plans to speak with St Kilda veteran Nick Riewoldt about how he can prolong his career.
Bucks is a great fellow ... I just didn’t fit into the game structure or the game set up.
Travis Cloke
“I am a pretty loyal person and that was probably the hardest thing to remove myself from that 2017 contract,” Cloke told The Footy Show on Thursday night.
“Obviously I had conversations with Bucks, and I guess it just wasn’t going to work out for the both of us. I didn’t want to be playing VFL football and they can’t guarantee you can be playing senior footy all the time, depending on form, the body, what the club is doing and where it is going.”
Cloke, who has played 246 games and kicked 441 goals with Collingwood since his 2005 debut, was dropped to the VFL on three occasions this season.
Travis Cloke pulls his Collingwood jumper after kicking a goal. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
Travis Cloke pulls his Collingwood jumper after kicking a goal. Picture: Wayne LudbeySource:News Corp Australia
He admitted that the third time it happened, he realised he was going to have to move clubs.
“That hurt a lot,” he said.
Cloke maintained he would always remain friends with Buckley, but acknowledged that their relationship as player and coach had “ups and downs”.
“Bucks is a great fellow ... I just didn’t fit into the game structure or the game set up for the Collingwood Football Club in the end,” he said.
“It is disappointing. It was a hard decision to make, but at the same time, it was a good decision for all involved.”
Cloke said the Western Bulldogs had been in discussion with his management, and he was excited by the way they played, and how they intended to play him, if a suitable deal can be arranged.
Nathan Buckley chats to Travis Cloke earlier in the season. Picture: Mark Dadswell
Nathan Buckley chats to Travis Cloke earlier in the season. Picture: Mark DadswellSource:News Corp Australia
“I guess I have enjoyed watching their footy over the last two years to see how ‘Bevo’ (Luke Beveridge) has changed their whole football club around,” he said.
“If that’s where I do end up ... I feel like I could help to improve their side and hopefully they can get the best out of me.
“I still believe I have plenty of good football left in me.”
Cloke said his former coach Mick Malthouse and Buckley were “polar opposites” in coaching styles.
“I owe everything to Mick,” he said. “I really loved playing under him. I understood the way he went about it.”
“He is very different to Bucks. They are polar opposites in their coaching, but at the same time they both understood what they wanted to do, and both are strong-minded individuals.”
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is it too much to be reading "bucks is a stuff stick" between the lines?
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