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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 28, 2021, 03:27:25 PM
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It's behind a paywall but I presume this is one of the annual 'Richmond vs Carlton' shouldn't be the season opener articles.
Carlton's failure to rise to the occasion has taken the shine off the season-opener. Here's how the AFL can bring Round 1, 2022 back to life ...
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/the-tackle-jon-ralphs-likes-and-dislikes-following-the-2021-afl-grand-final/news-story/935a30a16b9ab73bb974e9724069504f
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There's a push for Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs to kick start the 2022 season at the MCG instead of Richmond and Carlton.
Thoughts?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB8PmDSaQAAtYPc?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1449896005973970948
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we weren't the season opener in 2014, doesn't worry me a bit
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To be honest i would prefer not to be part of the season opener at all purely because the AFL will of course tweak the rules leading up to the commencement of the season, we are generally on the butt end of these interpretations for the first game and then they adjust the rules for the remaining round, extremely annoying and frustrating to watch.
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Too soon for GF replay.
Let it stew for half the year...
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Let's retire winning the last 8 ( 9 if you count 2014 )
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I think Carlton will be big improvers next year….danger game
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I think Carlton will be big improvers next year….danger game
8 pointer
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Why is it the given right for ANZAC day to be ESS v Coll
Maybe that should be the date for the GF replay
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I think Carlton will be big improvers next year….danger game
8 pointer
Been hearing this for a while now :rollin
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Sam McClure says it’s looking “increasingly likely” Melbourne will begin its premiership defence against the Western Bulldogs under lights in Round 1.
The Sportsday co-host said Carlton and Richmond would almost certainly kick off the 2022 season on Thursday night, as has been the norm for more than a decade.
But a grand final rematch looks likely for the Friday night of Round 1.
https://www.3aw.com.au/sam-mcclure-shares-some-developing-afl-fixture-news/
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Tigers and Blues to open season
Carlton and Richmond will again open the men’s season next year, in front of what the AFL hopes will be a near capacity crowd at the MCG.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-and-blues-to-open-season-dees-want-to-start-with-grand-final-rematch-20211020-p591o4.html
Thursday, March 24 is the likely date for our season opener.
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Carlton is keen to open the Michael Voss era in its traditional Thursday night opening-round match against Richmond at the MCG.
The clubs have opened the season the past seven years and squared off in the opening round 14 of the past 15 seasons.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/687057/fixture-requests-power-play-for-anzac-day-will-it-be-a-good-friday-for-north-
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-fixture-news-afl-considers-change-to-traditional-season-opener-for-2022/news-story/09029ac9621e5a73e490904281f25886
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REPORT: AFL WEIGHING UP WEDNESDAY NIGHT BLOCKBUSTER TO START SEASON 2022
The AFL is reportedly strongly considering a Wednesday night blockbuster to open the 2022 season in a potential break of fixture tradition.
According to The Herald Sun, the league is weighing up scheduling a Grand Final rematch between Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs or the traditional season opener between Carlton and Richmond on a Wednesday night.
The Blues and Tigers have opened the AFL season at the MCG on a Thursday night since 2007.
An earlier start would allow the league to schedule three standalone blockbuster Round 1 clashes on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday nights.
The Herald Sun understands a decision is expected to be made this week.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/12/01/report-afl-weighing-up-wednesday-night-blockbuster-to-start-season-2022/
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-fixture-news-afl-considers-change-to-traditional-season-opener-for-2022/news-story/09029ac9621e5a73e490904281f25886
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REPORT: AFL WEIGHING UP WEDNESDAY NIGHT BLOCKBUSTER TO START SEASON 2022
The AFL is reportedly strongly considering a Wednesday night blockbuster to open the 2022 season in a potential break of fixture tradition.
According to The Herald Sun, the league is weighing up scheduling a Grand Final rematch between Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs or the traditional season opener between Carlton and Richmond on a Wednesday night.
The Blues and Tigers have opened the AFL season at the MCG on a Thursday night since 2007.
An earlier start would allow the league to schedule three standalone blockbuster Round 1 clashes on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday nights.
The Herald Sun understands a decision is expected to be made this week.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/12/01/report-afl-weighing-up-wednesday-night-blockbuster-to-start-season-2022/
Umm no, we played GC up there Rd 1 in 2014
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Cheese sandwich.
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We may not have the season opener.
AFL considering Wednesday night grand final rematch to start season
Jake Niall
The Age
December 2, 2021
The AFL is considering whether to start the 2022 men’s season on a Wednesday night with a rematch of the 2021 grand final or stick with the traditional Carlton-Richmond opener.
Senior sources at the AFL confirmed that the grand final rematch between Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs was a chance to be the first game, with the alternative of the established Blues v Tigers game, which would likely stay on a Thursday night.
The Demons-Bulldogs game is likely to be played in round one regardless of whether it is the season opener or not. It would be played at the MCG.
There has long been an argument that the first game of the season ought to be between the grand finalists of the season before, or the two highest-placed Victorian teams. But Carlton and Richmond’s Thursday night match has been a genuine blockbuster, drawing significant crowds even though one team or the other has struggled, Carlton most recently.
The size of the supporter bases of Carlton and Richmond also means that game can draw a significant crowd without the status of being the season opener, provided it is in a favourable slot.
League sources said Thursday night was still the likely slot for the Blues and Tigers, even if the grand final rematch preceded it on the Wednesday.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-considering-wednesday-night-blockbuster-to-start-season-20211201-p59dzw.html
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Having the first game of the season means nothing to me, so not fussed when we play.
Carlton are always primed for the first game whereas we are looking longer into the season. And with a new coach they would have extra incentive.
The other thing is Grand Final rematches so early in the season rarely go well. Again, like us, both teams have an eye to the finals so not necessarily on top of their game. The Bulldogs might have a point to prove and Melbourne might still be celebrating.
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A GF replay in R1 is silly.
I want a build up to it. There's nothing to suggest either team will be any good this year. I always prefer the later clashes in the middle 3rd of the season when you occasionally have undefeated teams playing one another after 5-10 wins.
And as Gracie said if they are smart they won't be too fussed about R1.
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A GF replay in R1 is silly.
I want a build up to it. There's nothing to suggest either team will be any good this year. I always prefer the later clashes in the middle 3rd of the season when you occasionally have undefeated teams playing one another after 5-10 wins.
And as Gracie said if they are smart they won't be too fussed about R1.
Yes play the GF replay in say round 4 and give them each 3 games against lower ranked teams and they go into the game both undefeated
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Having the first game of the season means nothing to me, so not fussed when we play.
Carlton are always primed for the first game whereas we are looking longer into the season. And with a new coach they would have extra incentive.
The other thing is Grand Final rematches so early in the season rarely go well. Again, like us, both teams have an eye to the finals so not necessarily on top of their game. The Bulldogs might have a point to prove and Melbourne might still be celebrating.
I agree Gracie. I like playing Carlton and have a feeling that next year might be an interesting contest.
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Mitch Cleary on 7news tonight said Melbourne vs Bulldogs is "locked in" to be the season opener next year.
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1466677314142363649
If true then we'll be the second match which be on the Thursday night.
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The AFL will open the season with a grand final rematch between Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs on Wednesday night as the league locks in round one ahead of the expected fixture release next week.
Industry sources said Geelong will play Essendon in a Saturday afternoon blockbuster between the two finalists from last season while Carlton are certain to meet Richmond in the traditional Thursday night clash between the two power clubs.
AFL ROUND ONE MATCH-UPS
Melbourne v Western Bulldogs ..... Wednesday night
Richmond v Carlton .................... Thursday night
Geelong v Essendon ................... Saturday afternoon
Collingwood v St Kilda
Hawthorn v North Melbourne
Sydney Swans v GWS Giants
Sources at the northern-based clubs, the Brisbane Lions and the Gold Coast, said they expected to be playing teams from South Australia or Western Australia, with a league source confirming that would be the case.
The AFL is expected to release the first nine rounds of the 2022 fixture next week with the timeslots for the remaining match-ups after round nine to be decided closer to the games to ensure blockbusters are in the best time slots and to also give the league flexibility if COVID-19 impacts on the season.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/wednesday-night-demons-dogs-opener-and-geelong-v-essendon-tipped-for-round-one-20211203-p59epc.html
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Wednesday night game ::)
The AFL are clueless
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Confirmed.
ROUND ONE, 2022
Wednesday, March 16
Melbourne v Western Bulldogs, MCG, 7.10pm AEDT, Seven
Thursday, March 17
Carlton v Richmond, MCG, 7.25pm AEDT, Seven
Friday, March 18
St Kilda v Collingwood, Marvel Stadium, 7.50pm AEDT, Seven
Saturday, March 19
Geelong v Essendon, MCG, 2.10pm AEDT, Fox
Greater Western Sydney v Sydney, Accor Stadium, 5.10pm AEDT, Fox
Brisbane v Port Adelaide, Gabba, 7.10pm AEST, Seven
Sunday, March 20
Hawthorn v North Melbourne, MCG, 1.10pm AEDT, Fox
Adelaide v Fremantle, Adelaide Oval, 3.40pm ACDT, Fox
West Coast v Gold Coast, Optus Stadium, 4.40pm AWST, Fox
https://www.afl.com.au/news/690494/r1-fixture-reveal-new-opener-big-buddy-plans-pies-in-spotlight
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I’ve never cared less about losing something, it only hurts the Dees and the Dogs. Weds night? :lol
They could’ve had the GF on Fri night with better ratings and a bigger crowd. Instead, they’ve diluted another potential blockbuster
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The biggest Melb-Dogs H/A crowd is 55k way back in 1962. They've only one crowd above 40k since then.
https://afltables.com/afl/teams/melbourne/allgames_tm.html#7
So the AFL is clearly hoping the flag raising will drag in the cheese platter bandwagoners. Not sure the Dogs supporters will turn up in droves though. Who wants to watch the team you lost the Granny to celebrate once again. Remember us playing Carlton in round 1, 1983. That was fun - NOT! :P
As for us - redemption begins Thursday night :thumbsup.
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Will your club make a winning start in 2022?
afl.com.au
5 December 2021
Thursday, March 17
Carlton v Richmond at the MCG, 7.25pm AEDT
As is tradition, the two Victorian heavyweights will clash in the opening round on Thursday night, although this time it will not be the season-opener. The Tigers have won the past 11 matches between the two sides with the Blues' last victory coming way back in 2013. It will be Michael Voss' first game in charge as he looks to get his Carlton coaching career off to a winning start.
Last three meetings
2021 R1: Richmond 15.15 (105) def Carlton 11.14 (80) at the MCG
2020 R1: Richmond 16.9 (105) def Carlton 12.9 (81) at the MCG
2019 R21: Richmond 11.7 (73) def Carlton 6.9 (45) at the MCG
Last time at the MCG
2021 R23: Richmond 12.11 (83) drew Hawthorn 12.11 (83)
2021 R18: Carlton 13.13 (91) def Collingwood 9.8 (62)
Last five round one results
Richmond: WWWWW
Carlton: LLLLL
https://www.afl.com.au/news/690794/will-your-club-make-a-winning-start-in-2022-
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Robert Walls believes Carlton’s ‘list is the best it's been in a decade’ .
https://www.stuff-cripps-jacob-weitering-sam-walsh/news-story/ec868f3adf2add67ea74299667e08c94
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That's not saying much.
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Wall’s is a bloody wanker. Couldn’t stand him when he wrongly coached us.
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Put us back 10 years Walls did. Claimed Northeys gameplan of pressure hard nosed footy was no good. Hardwick comes along with an advanced version and wins 3 flags.
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Worst decision the club ever made in its history.
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Worst decision the club ever made in its history.
I'd respectively disagree... appointing Allan Jeans was the worst decision with the Walls appointment not for behind
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I think Carlton will be big improvers next year….danger game
8 pointer
Been hearing this for a while now :rollin
Big danger game imo. Its taken them awhile but they have got a lot of kids to 40 plus games and most are at least aged 22 upwards. Reckon their structure is pretty good as well. Not saying they will win anyything this year but if you look you can see the work they have put in in getting their kids to a point where they are no longer pushed around.
Ah stuff it i will just do what i think their team will be with height/size and age and games. Emphasis should be on their age and experience. If they have it right then its no longer men against kids. I dont see any real reasons why they should not improve.
FB: Marchbank 193/93 25y/48g - Young 197/97 23y/24g - Docherty 186/86 28y/122g.
Marchbank has not played for awhile but they like him and if not for injury i reckon he has the tools to play well at the level given a clear run with injury. If hes not ready then Plowman at 193/93 27y/129g will play instead. Lewis Young they got from the Dogs to take over from Jones. He looks to me a likely prospect who has been a slow burn. He is now 23y and has 24 games behind him. Docherty before his horror run with injury was one of the better medium defenders going around. It looks as though he has come thru it all and is ready to play near his best.
HB: Williams 185/85 27y/127g - Wietering 196/101 24y/114g - Saad 178/77 27y/131g.
Williams and Saad Pose huge running threats and if honest just about every club would like a young key defender of Wieterings quality.
The back half has plenty of experience and the youngest and least experienced is 23y and 24games.
C: Williamson 190/85 23y/43g - Cerra 188y/87g 22y/76g - O'Brien 184/82 22y/41g.
Its a little inexperienced but its a group with enough games behind them and they are in year 4 at least. Cerra rounds them out with quality.Williamson i have liked for a while and injury has not helped him.
R: Pittonet 202/104 25y/33g - Cripps 195/93 27y/138g - Walsh 184/84 21y/61g.
Pittonet who reminds me a bit of us with Nankervis. He is combative and really competes in the role. the other two are as good as any going around and throw Cerra in and it has to be respected. The youngest mid is Walsh and so far age has not mattered to this kid. Underestimate this group of mids onballers at your peril i say.
HF: J Martin 186/82 27y/123g - C Curnow 192/92 25y/62g - Fogarty 180/78 22y/40g.
Curnow has missed a lot of footy but he can play. Martin missed half a season last year. The least amount of games is 40.The youngest is 22yrs An age where they have decided he will make it. No longer are they just playing kids in fact very few juniors.
FF: Owies 180/81 25y/14g - McKay 204/104 24y/67g - DeKoning 203/102 22y/22g.
Owies is a mature pick up and looked okay McKay has established himself as a very good key fwd and DeKoning as a ruck fwd has 22 games behind him and looks likely.
Int: E Curnow 180/85 32y/204g - Kemp 190/?? 20y/2g - Philp 186/85 20y/2g - Newnes 186/85 29y/191g.
Its a mix of youth and experience Kemp and Philp are the only two juniors in the 22.
EMG; Kennedy 190/90 24y/61g or Dow 187/8522y/59g.
Don't shoot me im just putting out there the team we may play and pointing out where they have got to in regards of age and experience. Imo they should be looking at the 8 or there abouts.
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Nice work Claw
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We'll win by 7 goals in R1
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I think Carlton will be big improvers next year….danger game
8 pointer
Been hearing this for a while now :rollin
Big danger game imo. Its taken them awhile but they have got a lot of kids to 40 plus games and most are at least aged 22 upwards. Reckon their structure is pretty good as well. Not saying they will win anyything this year but if you look you can see the work they have put in in getting their kids to a point where they are no longer pushed around.
Ah stuff it i will just do what i think their team will be with height/size and age and games. Emphasis should be on their age and experience. If they have it right then its no longer men against kids. I dont see any real reasons why they should not improve.
FB: Marchbank 193/93 25y/48g - Young 197/97 23y/24g - Docherty 186/86 28y/122g.
Marchbank has not played for awhile but they like him and if not for injury i reckon he has the tools to play well at the level given a clear run with injury. If hes not ready then Plowman at 193/93 27y/129g will play instead. Lewis Young they got from the Dogs to take over from Jones. He looks to me a likely prospect who has been a slow burn. He is now 23y and has 24 games behind him. Docherty before his horror run with injury was one of the better medium defenders going around. It looks as though he has come thru it all and is ready to play near his best.
HB: Williams 185/85 27y/127g - Wietering 196/101 24y/114g - Saad 178/77 27y/131g.
Williams and Saad Pose huge running threats and if honest just about every club would like a young key defender of Wieterings quality.
The back half has plenty of experience and the youngest and least experienced is 23y and 24games.
C: Williamson 190/85 23y/43g - Cerra 188y/87g 22y/76g - O'Brien 184/82 22y/41g.
Its a little inexperienced but its a group with enough games behind them and they are in year 4 at least. Cerra rounds them out with quality.Williamson i have liked for a while and injury has not helped him.
R: Pittonet 202/104 25y/33g - Cripps 195/93 27y/138g - Walsh 184/84 21y/61g.
Pittonet who reminds me a bit of us with Nankervis. He is combative and really competes in the role. the other two are as good as any going around and throw Cerra in and it has to be respected. The youngest mid is Walsh and so far age has not mattered to this kid. Underestimate this group of mids onballers at your peril i say.
HF: J Martin 186/82 27y/123g - C Curnow 192/92 25y/62g - Fogarty 180/78 22y/40g.
Curnow has missed a lot of footy but he can play. Martin missed half a season last year. The least amount of games is 40.The youngest is 22yrs An age where they have decided he will make it. No longer are they just playing kids in fact very few juniors.
FF: Owies 180/81 25y/14g - McKay 204/104 24y/67g - DeKoning 203/102 22y/22g.
Owies is a mature pick up and looked okay McKay has established himself as a very good key fwd and DeKoning as a ruck fwd has 22 games behind him and looks likely.
Int: E Curnow 180/85 32y/204g - Kemp 190/?? 20y/2g - Philp 186/85 20y/2g - Newnes 186/85 29y/191g.
Its a mix of youth and experience Kemp and Philp are the only two juniors in the 22.
EMG; Kennedy 190/90 24y/61g or Dow 187/8522y/59g.
Don't shoot me im just putting out there the team we may play and pointing out where they have got to in regards of age and experience. Imo they should be looking at the 8 or there abouts.
It's about time after tanking so many years and a record number of draft picks in the first round don't you think.
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I think Carlton will be big improvers next year….danger game
8 pointer
Been hearing this for a while now :rollin
Big danger game imo. Its taken them awhile but they have got a lot of kids to 40 plus games and most are at least aged 22 upwards. Reckon their structure is pretty good as well. Not saying they will win anyything this year but if you look you can see the work they have put in in getting their kids to a point where they are no longer pushed around.
Ah stuff it i will just do what i think their team will be with height/size and age and games. Emphasis should be on their age and experience. If they have it right then its no longer men against kids. I dont see any real reasons why they should not improve.
FB: Marchbank 193/93 25y/48g - Young 197/97 23y/24g - Docherty 186/86 28y/122g.
Marchbank has not played for awhile but they like him and if not for injury i reckon he has the tools to play well at the level given a clear run with injury. If hes not ready then Plowman at 193/93 27y/129g will play instead. Lewis Young they got from the Dogs to take over from Jones. He looks to me a likely prospect who has been a slow burn. He is now 23y and has 24 games behind him. Docherty before his horror run with injury was one of the better medium defenders going around. It looks as though he has come thru it all and is ready to play near his best.
HB: Williams 185/85 27y/127g - Wietering 196/101 24y/114g - Saad 178/77 27y/131g.
Williams and Saad Pose huge running threats and if honest just about every club would like a young key defender of Wieterings quality.
The back half has plenty of experience and the youngest and least experienced is 23y and 24games.
C: Williamson 190/85 23y/43g - Cerra 188y/87g 22y/76g - O'Brien 184/82 22y/41g.
Its a little inexperienced but its a group with enough games behind them and they are in year 4 at least. Cerra rounds them out with quality.Williamson i have liked for a while and injury has not helped him.
R: Pittonet 202/104 25y/33g - Cripps 195/93 27y/138g - Walsh 184/84 21y/61g.
Pittonet who reminds me a bit of us with Nankervis. He is combative and really competes in the role. the other two are as good as any going around and throw Cerra in and it has to be respected. The youngest mid is Walsh and so far age has not mattered to this kid. Underestimate this group of mids onballers at your peril i say.
HF: J Martin 186/82 27y/123g - C Curnow 192/92 25y/62g - Fogarty 180/78 22y/40g.
Curnow has missed a lot of footy but he can play. Martin missed half a season last year. The least amount of games is 40.The youngest is 22yrs An age where they have decided he will make it. No longer are they just playing kids in fact very few juniors.
FF: Owies 180/81 25y/14g - McKay 204/104 24y/67g - DeKoning 203/102 22y/22g.
Owies is a mature pick up and looked okay McKay has established himself as a very good key fwd and DeKoning as a ruck fwd has 22 games behind him and looks likely.
Int: E Curnow 180/85 32y/204g - Kemp 190/?? 20y/2g - Philp 186/85 20y/2g - Newnes 186/85 29y/191g.
Its a mix of youth and experience Kemp and Philp are the only two juniors in the 22.
EMG; Kennedy 190/90 24y/61g or Dow 187/8522y/59g.
Don't shoot me im just putting out there the team we may play and pointing out where they have got to in regards of age and experience. Imo they should be looking at the 8 or there abouts.
To many if's and but's Claw for me. Wietering I rate highly , but Plowman and Marchbank hardly play. Williams still for me soft as butter let's see what Martin does this year. The forward line looks good through set up nicely.
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Every AFL club’s predicted R1 team
David Zita and Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
February 3rd, 2022 4:54 pm
RICHMOND
B: Dylan Grimes, Robbie Tarrant, Nick Vlastuin
HB: Jayden Short, Noah Balta, Daniel Rioli
C: Liam Baker, Trent Cotchin, Kamdyn McIntosh
HF: Shane Edwards, Jack Riewoldt, Kane Lambert
F: Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Dustin Martin
FOLL: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jack Graham
I/C: Ivan Soldo, Nathan Broad, Sydney Stack, Josh Gibcus
In: Robbie Tarrant, Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks, Judson Clarke
Out: David Astbury, Bachar Houli, Patrick Naish, Mabior Chol, Callum Coleman-Jones, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, Ryan Garthwaite
WE SAY: A lot of the premiership core is still there, but we’re going to be seeing a slightly different line-up at Tigerland in 2022. Leading the pack clearly is Robbie Tarrant, with the former North Melbourne star making the move to the Tigers in a bid for flag success. He’s an obvious walk-up start in a defence now lacking David Astbury and Bachar Houli. The move of Dan Rioli to half-back was a successful one and will continue next year, while there was plenty to like from Sydney Stack in the back half of the year. A notable inclusion is Ivan Soldo, who has been training well since recovering from a knee injury. The loss of Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol isn’t ideal, but it doesn’t drastically affect the Tigers’ starting line-up next year. We could see Richmond’s top selection Josh Gibcus come onto the scene for Round 1 after roaring into top-10 pick calculations. He has the ability to play either forward or back and could sneak in, maybe at the expense of Rhyan Mansell and Riley Collier-Dawkins.
CARLTON
B: Liam Stocker, Lewis Young, Nic Newman
HB: Adam Saad, Jacob Weitering, Zac Williams
C: Adam Cerra, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow
HF: Jack Martin, Charlie Curnow, Zac Fisher
F: Jack Silvagni, Harry McKay, Josh Honey
FOLL: Marc Pittonet, Sam Walsh, George Hewett
I/C: Mitch McGovern, Will Setterfield, Tom De Koning, Paddy Dow
In: George Hewett, Adam Cerra, Lewis Young, Jesse Motlop, Domanic Akuei
Out: Eddie Betts, Levi Casboult, Marc Murphy, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Michael Gibbons, Sam Ramsay, Liam Jones
WE SAY: One of the hardest teams to pick a best 22 for, there’s a whole host of names we could’ve fit into the side. Mitch McGovern is set to play more in the backline with Lewis Young, given the premature retirement of Liam Jones, plus the fact Caleb Marchbank continues to suffer injury setbacks. Fingers crossed for Sam Docherty’s recovery from testicular cancer, but we’ve left him out of the side while he continues to work his way back. Elsewhere, David Cuningham could easily occupy a wing and push Cerra onto the ball, with he and Hewett proving solid midfield depth the club has lacked in recent years. It’s fair to ask how exactly Hewett and Cerra will both get starting midfield spots, since the wing isn’t exactly where you want the latter. Meanwhile, the likes of Lochie O’Brien, Matt Kennedy, Will Setterfield and Jack Newnes will be pressing their claims. Michael Voss has an abundance of options, and that’s a great problem to have. From a draft standpoint, Jesse Motlop has a stack of promise but is likely to get a run at stages throughout the season rather than slot straight in for Round 1.
https://www.stuff-seb-ross/news-story/0e24d24d72e4013b7d0a619b66d2cfbe
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Will this be the year that Richmond lose their first game of the season in 10 years?
Ben Lawless
zerohanger.com
4 February 2022
Over the past decade, the Tigers have had a stranglehold over their round one matchup against the Blues. Including their round two matches in 2014, the Tigers have won the past nine opening round matchups by an average margin of 22.7. They have also won their past eleven straight matches against the Blues.
There have been calls from fans to remove the meeting from its position as the first game of the season, due to uneven contests. Not since 2014 has there a matchup closer than two goals. Usually, the game is over before the final quarter with Carlton never really making it close.
This year’s matchup however should be different than previous seasons.
Firstly, has scheduled another match prior to the Richmond vs Carlton matchup on Thursday night. On the Wednesday prior, a replay of the 2021 Grand Final will open the season. While likely to still draw a large crowd, expect a dip in the attendance numbers due to the fixture changes.
Secondly, this is the first season since 2017 that Richmond isn't considered the best team in the competition. Both teams battled through injuries last season and underperformed preseason expectations. For the Tigers, if they are able to get everyone fit and playing by round one, they should be contending for a top-four position once again. It is slightly more complicated for Carlton however.
With new signings, a new coach, improved health and player development the Blues are expected to be a big improver in 2022. Carlton fans have been waiting for the list to live up to its potential. It finally looks like this season will be the year.
With both teams fully healthy, Richmond still has the stronger list. Unlike other years, however, the two teams are a lot closer. Carlton has enough youth and players entering their prime to potentially cause an upset.
New coach Voss will also give extra motivation, as he will be eager to start off with a win. Especially because they play the Bulldogs in round two. A 0-2 start could put him in the hot seat and begin the Clarkson to Carlton rumours.
While the previous history indicates that Richmond should be the odds on favourite for round one, expect a closer match than the past few seasons. 2022 is Carlton's first real opportunity in years to start the season off with a win. Despite that, a healthy and motivated Richmond team would be hard for anyone to beat in round one this season.
https://www.zerohanger.com/captain-less-and-winless-after-round-one-five-burning-questions-richmond-tigers-97294/
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Crowd cap off? Prepare to pack the MCG in Round 1
The AFL is all but certain to welcome uncapped crowds for the start of the men’s season, with the MCG’s boss confident stadium caps will be lifted.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-news-2022-stay-up-to-date-with-latest-news-ahead-of-round-one/news-story/c8294e485b06184bb6c44e1182ca7c0b
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My current 22 for round 1 based on what I've seen from preseason training.
B: Grimes Tarrant Vlastuin
HB: Short Balta D.Rioli
C: Edwards Cotchin McIntosh
HF: Baker Riewoldt Stack
F: Castagna Lynch Martin
R: Nankervis Prestia Bolton
Int: Soldo, Broad, Graham, RCD.
Emg (from): Gibcus, Ross, Caddy, Brown, Mansell, Miller.
Missing:
Lambert (inj.) - don't see him getting right in time.
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It's time Josh Caddy got a decent run in his natural position. Permanent Forward.
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I think Carlton will be big improvers next year….danger game
8 pointer
Been hearing this for a while now :rollin
Big danger game imo. Its taken them awhile but they have got a lot of kids to 40 plus games and most are at least aged 22 upwards. Reckon their structure is pretty good as well. Not saying they will win anyything this year but if you look you can see the work they have put in in getting their kids to a point where they are no longer pushed around.
Ah stuff it i will just do what i think their team will be with height/size and age and games. Emphasis should be on their age and experience. If they have it right then its no longer men against kids. I dont see any real reasons why they should not improve.
FB: Marchbank 193/93 25y/48g - Young 197/97 23y/24g - Docherty 186/86 28y/122g.
Marchbank has not played for awhile but they like him and if not for injury i reckon he has the tools to play well at the level given a clear run with injury. If hes not ready then Plowman at 193/93 27y/129g will play instead. Lewis Young they got from the Dogs to take over from Jones. He looks to me a likely prospect who has been a slow burn. He is now 23y and has 24 games behind him. Docherty before his horror run with injury was one of the better medium defenders going around. It looks as though he has come thru it all and is ready to play near his best.
HB: Williams 185/85 27y/127g - Wietering 196/101 24y/114g - Saad 178/77 27y/131g.
Williams and Saad Pose huge running threats and if honest just about every club would like a young key defender of Wieterings quality.
The back half has plenty of experience and the youngest and least experienced is 23y and 24games.
C: Williamson 190/85 23y/43g - Cerra 188y/87g 22y/76g - O'Brien 184/82 22y/41g.
Its a little inexperienced but its a group with enough games behind them and they are in year 4 at least. Cerra rounds them out with quality.Williamson i have liked for a while and injury has not helped him.
R: Pittonet 202/104 25y/33g - Cripps 195/93 27y/138g - Walsh 184/84 21y/61g.
Pittonet who reminds me a bit of us with Nankervis. He is combative and really competes in the role. the other two are as good as any going around and throw Cerra in and it has to be respected. The youngest mid is Walsh and so far age has not mattered to this kid. Underestimate this group of mids onballers at your peril i say.
HF: J Martin 186/82 27y/123g - C Curnow 192/92 25y/62g - Fogarty 180/78 22y/40g.
Curnow has missed a lot of footy but he can play. Martin missed half a season last year. The least amount of games is 40.The youngest is 22yrs An age where they have decided he will make it. No longer are they just playing kids in fact very few juniors.
FF: Owies 180/81 25y/14g - McKay 204/104 24y/67g - DeKoning 203/102 22y/22g.
Owies is a mature pick up and looked okay McKay has established himself as a very good key fwd and DeKoning as a ruck fwd has 22 games behind him and looks likely.
Int: E Curnow 180/85 32y/204g - Kemp 190/?? 20y/2g - Philp 186/85 20y/2g - Newnes 186/85 29y/191g.
Its a mix of youth and experience Kemp and Philp are the only two juniors in the 22.
EMG; Kennedy 190/90 24y/61g or Dow 187/8522y/59g.
Don't shoot me im just putting out there the team we may play and pointing out where they have got to in regards of age and experience. Imo they should be looking at the 8 or there abouts.
It's about time after tanking so many years and a record number of draft picks in the first round don't you think.
In fairness if we take 2006 as the start for us in finding premiership pieces then it took us 12 seasons to go from crap to premiers. We found most of the key ingredients 2006 to 2010 yet it still took another 7 seven seasons.
Im guilty of it and i think most are but we have this idea that premierships are built in 4 or 5 seasons the rerality imo is it takes much longer especially when building from scratch.
I think Carlton have done a lot of the hard yards but i hate em so much im hoping its another false dawn.Unfortunately the good times of them being so poo won't last forever.
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My current 22 for round 1 based on what I've seen from preseason training.
B: Grimes Tarrant Vlastuin
HB: Short Balta D.Rioli
C: Edwards Cotchin McIntosh
HF: Baker Riewoldt Stack
F: Castagna Lynch Martin
R: Nankervis Prestia Bolton
Int: Soldo, Broad, Graham, RCD.
Emg (from): Gibcus, Ross, Caddy, Brown, Mansell, Miller.
Missing:
Lambert (inj.) - don't see him getting right in time.
Good side. Need 2 or 3 youngsters to come through for depth. Brown, Sonsie, Clark, Ralphsmith, Rioli Jr. 2 or 3 just to keep the senior players on their toes.
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Still a tough team to break into but your right
3 to 4 need to come in over the top and push others out
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Ramps gets it.
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I would be happy to go into a grand final with the team posted by MT. But if a Brown comes on and can improve us by taking a McIntosh out, if a Sonsie or a Clark can replace a Castagna then we are right in it up to our eyeballs.
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History suggests the same 22 can’t contest multiple GFs right? I don’t remember how many changes is the statistical average but I guess the inclusions of Stack, Tarrant and rcd mixes it up enough.
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Sam Walsh out for the Blues.
Has a syndesmosis injury and will miss the opening month of the season according to 7news.
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Sam Walsh out for the Blues.
Has a syndesmosis injury and will miss the opening month of the season according to 7news.
Good excuse to lose to us. Cue the 'if Walsh had played we'd have beat you' posts
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6 goals plus boys ... Carlton have a way to go yet.
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THE AFL has confirmed there will be 100 per cent capacity at stadiums in Victoria for the opening round of the Toyota AFL Premiership Season.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/705877/full-capacity-no-crowd-restrictions-in-victoria-for-round-one
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Changes to AFL ticket prices as crowds return
The AFL has slashed ticket prices in a bid to get crowds to embrace the game again after lockdowns. Here’s what’s changing.
Sunday HeraldSun
February 20, 2022
Cut-price family footy tickets will be introduced by the AFL in a bid to get fans back in the stands.
The Sunday Herald Sun can reveal families of two adults and two children will now get into the footy for $50 with a new family pass.
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan said the league wanted to help bring crowds back to the city, filling restaurants, shops and bars as well as the MCG and Marvel Stadium.
“Footy can hopefully help bring the heartbeat of the city back to Melbourne and back to the state of Victoria,’’ he said.
The AFL is also investigating establishing an entertainment precinct around the MCG for Round 1 to create a festival atmosphere to celebrate the return of the game.
A price freeze on general admission tickets will see adults charged $27, concession holders $18 and kids $5 for all matches at the MCG and Marvel Stadium.
Kids aged four and under will get in for free.
The new family pass will allow two adults and two children aged up to 14 entry to matches in Melbourne from rounds one to five, before being assessed for potential extension.
“There is no doubt they have done it tough over the last two years and we just wanted to say thank you for the role they play not only for footy, but in connecting families and friends,’’ he said.
AFL tickets will go on sale to club members on March 1 and the general public on March 2, ahead of the season opener on March 16.
In another win for footy starved Victorians forced to watch their team on TV during successive lockdowns, ticket box offices closed due to the pandemic will reopen at stadiums for the first time in two years, allowing fans to buy tickets on the day.
Members will be allowed to return to reserved seats and fans previously restricted to zones separate zones will be allowed to meet at bars around the ground.
AFL customer and commercial executive general manager Kylie Rogers hoped fans would return to matches en masse.
“We are back and want to return to that familiar match day ritual and routine that everyone loves about our game,’’ she said.
“Our commitment remains to keep footy prices as affordable and accessible as possible and thanking members and fans who have stuck by their clubs.’’
It comes after the Herald Sun last week revealed uncapped crowds would be allowed to return to AFL matches in Victoria next month, with the state government removing attendance restrictions.
It means up to 100,000 fans will be allowed at the MCG for blockbuster season openers including the Grand Final replay between Melbourne and Western Bulldogs.
More than 400,000 fans are expected to stuff to a “festival of football’’ of round one matches in Victoria, with all 10 Victorian teams playing each other on home soil to open the season.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/changes-to-afl-ticket-prices-as-crowds-return/news-story/3e35d20c485b05ddb26eca5ad052508d
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Updating my current 22 for round 1 post the first intra-club.
B: Grimes Tarrant Vlastuin
HB: Short Balta D.Rioli
C: Edwards Cotchin McIntosh
HF: Baker Riewoldt Caddy
F: Castagna Lynch Martin
R: Nankervis Prestia Bolton
Int: Soldo, Broad, Graham, RCD.
Emg (from): Gibcus, Mansell, Sonsie, Ross.
Short and especially Dan Rioli on notice. Mansell would be an IN on one of the HBFs if I solely based this team on the intra-club and not the whole preseason.
Balta isn't a permanent forward (not yet anyway). Needs to go back (pinch-hitting up the ground) which means Gibcus remains an emergency.
Stack was disappointing on Saturday if he is going to play as a forward. Most of the time on Saturday he gained possessions up on a wing or behind the ball.
While this won't be a popular decision on here, I've got Caddy replacing Stack on a HFF in the 22. Caddy has got himself superfit this preseason and is ahead of others on form IMHO.
RCD hangs on for now on the bench. Remains in given Lambert is unlikely to play round 1 due to that hip.
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A few tweaks for me:
B: Gibcus Tarrant Mansell
HB: Short Grimes Vlastuin
C: Edwards Cotchin McIntosh
HF: Baker Riewoldt Bolton
F: Balta Lynch Caddy
R: Nankervis Prestia Martin
Int: Soldo, Broad, Castagna, Rioli
Emg (from): Multiple options here. Don't reckon Graham gets up in time.
Balta is going to play forward and Gibcus gets the nod. Mansell also in front of Rioli.
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Carlton’s Harry McKay failed to play in Friday’s match simulation due to foot soreness. He has also been wearing a bandage on his shoulder to protect scar tissue (pic from six days ago). No guarantee for R1
https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/status/1495664149355180035
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The cricket pitches are coming out at the G! There's just three weeks until the men's footy season kicks off! (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMPpitfVgAAyeg4?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMPpitfVgAAyeg4?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/triplemfooty/status/1496296297908695040
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Love it a ‘proper’ season fast approaching
Getting heckled out and about in my tigers “whatever I’m wearing”
Let’s keep this gorgeous streak against the blooz and have a good damn crack at another flag
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Apparently tickets on sale tomorrow and I haven’t got my barcode.
Sometimes this club gets me frustrated.
I’ve received no correspondence at all about this game.
How am I able to purchase a ticket to this game?
What a joke :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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I am a 25 year member and I am really peeed off with this digital poo. It's not needed and people like me will walk away. They have given us paying members no choice...
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Apparently tickets on sale tomorrow and I haven’t got my barcode.
Sometimes this club gets me frustrated.
I’ve received no correspondence at all about this game.
How am I able to purchase a ticket to this game?
What a joke :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Check your junk folder on your email account.
Prior to Xmas I wasn't receiving any membership emails. Found all of them in my bigpond junk folder
As the emails are coming from "emembership@richmond..." bigpond decide they were spam. I've since set a flag that it is a valid email account they are coming through to our inbox
FWIW I've just received another email in the last couple of hours with barcode and a link to the Ticketek site
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Apparently tickets on sale tomorrow and I haven’t got my barcode.
Sometimes this club gets me frustrated.
I’ve received no correspondence at all about this game.
How am I able to purchase a ticket to this game?
What a joke :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Check your junk folder on your email account.
Prior to Xmas I wasn't receiving any membership emails. Found all of them in my bigpond junk folder
As the emails are coming from "emembership@richmond..." bigpond decide they were spam. I've since set a flag that it is a valid email account they are coming through to our inbox
FWIW I've just received another email in the last couple of hours with barcode and a link to the Ticketek site
Checked. No membership emails received since 23/11/21. I’ve had no correspondence whatsoever.
What annoys me the most is that I’ve got mates with memberships at two different clubs and their club app looks almost identical with our club app but their membership interface is easy to use and they already have instant access to the first five games on their devices. All they need to do is just tap on the game and purchase the ticket they need and it will facilitate the purchase. Easy.
This club for some reason makes it the most frustrating experience.
If I had the barcode on my membership Card at least I’d have it. But they decided that wasn’t needed any longer. So here I am.
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Richmond home game access members wanting to purchase ticket/s to the away Round 1 match against Carlton at the MCG will get their opportunity from 2pm AEDT this Tuesday via Ticketek.
https://hotshow4.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=CARLT0122
MCG
Tuesday, March 1
9am – MCC Members
1pm – AFL Members
2pm – Club Members
Wednesday, March 2
10am – General Public
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1069406/tickets-stuff
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All sorted. :phew
The club was actually very helpful in the end to find the issue and resolve it and get me that barcode. :clapping
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All sorted. :phew
The club was actually very helpful in the end to find the issue and resolve it and get me that barcode. :clapping
:clapping
Great news
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Can't full members just walk in?
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Can't full members just walk in?
Come on Torch. No chance mate as far as i know. Perhaps week after against the giants.
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Just like to clarify for those who have a home game membership only. Round 1 V Carlton is an AWAY game, so please buy your tickets tomorrow.
MCG and MARVEL
Wednesday, March 2 - 10am – General Public
*Click here https://premier.ticketek.com.au/ to visit Ticketek for games played at the MCG and Adelaide Oval.
*Click here https://www.ticketmaster.com.au/richmond-tickets/artist/845830?_ga=2.68282449.1745614010.1646024341-788075948.1639450796 to visit Ticketmaster for games played at Marvel Stadium.
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FOR AFL MEMBERS the ONLY remaining seating is on LEVEL 4 front (single seats only) and middle.
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So what’s the extra is it for for a member to go to a home game and sit in an unreserved general public seat, including the costs to use a ticketing agency.
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Injury watch
Jack Graham is touch-and-go for the start of the season after a summer hit by hamstring issues and missed the clash with Geelong last week. The Tigers are hopeful he will be stepping up his training soon. Fellow premiership midfielder Kane Lambert is also in doubt for the start of the Tigers' campaign as he battles a hip complaint. Star duo Dustin Martin (hip) and Tom Lynch (hamstring) had some recent niggles but returned to the field against the Cats.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/711728/update-injury-watch-and-your-praccy-match-eyecatchers
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Round 1 Bolters - RICHMOND
Described by new teammate Jack Riewoldt as a “very special player”, the Tigers would love to give top draft pick Josh Gibcus an early run. After sliding to Richmond on draft night, the 197cm teenager has shown excellent athleticism and could even start up forward if required. Hugo Ralphsmith got his chances with six games last year but could play at halfback, while he’s hardly a bolter given his resume built over the years at North Melbourne but veteran defender Robbie Tarrant will be a new face in the Round 1 line-up.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-round-1-teams-selection-bolters-for-every-club-new-recruits-draftees-josh-gibcus-hugh-dixon-jason-hornefrancis/news-story/403f5890c7f6b62208139771162849cf
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It will be Carlton for finals or even premiers after tonight's game against Melbourne.
I must say they look pretty good.
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Melbourne are being Richmonded tonight. 8 50 metre penalties against Melbourne for time wasting and gobbing off.
I see why the AFL are doing it but it's too much. I've umpired, I know what it's like but simply shaking your head or saying your joking doesn't deserve 50m.
Perhaps a 25m penalty more appropriate
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Melbourne are being Richmonded tonight. 8 50 metre penalties against Melbourne for time wasting and gobbing off.
I see why the AFL are doing it but it's too much. I've umpired, I know what it's like but simply shaking your head or saying your joking doesn't deserve 50m.
Perhaps a 25m penalty more appropriate
I can understand them wanting to remove verbal abuse and over the top demonstrative behaviour towards umpires. No one should have to put up with that at any level. However, imagine copping a 50 and losing a GF due to simply chuckling to yourself :help. Once again the AFL overreacts and only makes the problem worse with rules and interpretations that only frustrate fans even more. Of course, it's the umps that will cop the backlash which defeats the purpose of it all.
ps. Speaking of the umps, how about Cripps being allowed to run a mile without bouncing for one of his goals :huh.
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It will be Carlton for finals or even premiers after tonight's game against Melbourne.
I must say they look pretty good.
Another 5 minutes and they may have been run over but all up Carlton turned up to play as if it was a H&A game while Melbourne weren't mentally switched on especially in the first half. They were dropping simple marks
Good for us in a way. Carlton revealed many of their cards last night before we play them in round 1. They've copied our 2017 forward line with 3 quicks small forwards at the feet of a tall. They smashed Melbourne in the clearances via Cripps, Kennedy, Hewett and Cerra. So we need to counter that. McGovern is being used this year as their loose man in defence and needs to be manned or pressured as his kicking can be iffy as were other Carlton backs. All up they played on quickly using speed of foot and handball receives.
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I noticed a lot of Carlton players in defence last night clogging that area
Need to counter that too somehow. Doesnt suit a long kicking game so heopefully Teague gets us lowering the eyes
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Cerra & Hewett last night:
62 disposals
16 score involvements
11 clearances
10 inside 50s
83 and 87% disposal efficiency
https://twitter.com/NicNegrepontis/status/1499340576235618304
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I noticed a lot of Carlton players in defence last night clogging that area
Need to counter that too somehow. Doesnt suit a long kicking game so heopefully Teague gets us lowering the eyes
The Stand rule encourages flooding. Another SHocking decision.
Carlton went with a high press in the first half as they applied forward pressure but once McKay and small forward Durdin (inj) went off at half-time and Melbourne were making a comeback the Blues did push numbers back. I hate Carlton but their workrate last night to support each other and their two way running was excellent.
In the guts, I noticed Hewett plays the defensive backstop role at centrebounces, Cripps stands to the side and Kennedy/Cerra stand forward of the centre circle. Whoever out of Cripps and Kennedy/Cerra gets first hands to the footy will try to get a forward handball to the other who will position themself just defensive side running past to receive the handpass. If that's blocked they look for Hewett in space. I noticed Oliver went ballhunting so that left Melbourne's defensive side at the centrebounce open to exploit with this forward handpass by Carlton. Protecting the defensive side at stoppages and the post-clearance contest was something we fell away badly at doing last year. So we will need to be wary of the Blues mids trying this against us. Whoever is standing defensive side of the centre circle can't be sucked into the initial contest or we'll just give up centre clearance after centre clearance. If can get back to 2017-2020 of nullifying the clearances then we'll have a good chance of winning as Carlton's defence is still suspect.
I'd take a guess this is the Carlton line-up for round 1.
FB: Newman/Docherty McDonald/Young McGovern
FF: Castagna Riewoldt Balta
HB: Williams Weitering Saad
HF: Bolton Lynch Baker
C: O'Brien Kennedy Setterfield
C: Edwards Prestia McIntosh
HF: Martin McKay Owies
HB: Short Tarrant D.Rioli
FF: Durdin Curnow/DeKoning Silvagni
FB: Vlastuin Grimes/Gibcus/Miller Gibcus/Grimes
R: Pittonet Cripps Hewett
R: Nankervis Cotchin Martin
Int: Cerra Fisher E.Curnow Kemp
Int: Soldo Broad Ralphsmith/Mansell Ross/Dow/RCD
IMO we look a bit suspect in key defence like this. Taking a big chance playing one of an unexperienced Gibcus or Miller on one of their talls (could go for the experienced Grimes but we like him in an interceptor role). Rather Balta line-up in defence and someone else plays forward and makes McGovern and his dodgy kicking accountable to force turnovers.
I'm also a bit concerned going too tall will make us too slow once the ball hits the ground in our F50 and on defensive transition. Geelong cleared the ball from end to end far too easily in the praccy match.
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The media are pumping up Carlton against us.
Watch out Tigers: Why Blues are well-placed to end streak
The Teague Train might have derailed, but it’s all about the Voss Voyage in 2022. And they have the perfect chance to snap their Round 1 drought against the Tigers.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-carlton-v-melbourne-all-the-news-and-reaction-from-preseason-clash/news-story/aa1b1790e62cbe064bc38866fb916f7c
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The media are pumping up Carlton against us.
Watch out Tigers: Why Blues are well-placed to end streak
The Teague Train might have derailed, but it’s all about the Voss Voyage in 2022. And they have the perfect chance to snap their Round 1 drought against the Tigers.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-carlton-v-melbourne-all-the-news-and-reaction-from-preseason-clash/news-story/aa1b1790e62cbe064bc38866fb916f7c
I have said all along danger game.
Regarding the media comments even a broken clock is right twice a day.
This is the scums best chance in many years.
A win for us will demoralise them even further.
Go Tiges
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https://twitter.com/AFLDraftExpert/status/1499937745115901953
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This is the DeKoning who flew for a few screamers and didn't do much else? :lol
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This is the DeKoning who flew for a few screamers and didn't do much else? :lol
I think he looks very promising. Dekoning is just 22 only played 22 games and has tracked along far better than say CC-J imo.
If he was at Richmond you would be singing his praises and talking him up as a promising young player i would guess.
Voss imo will treat this year as another DEVELOPMENT YR for him. His size and athletic ability along with more maturity 22yrs instead of just 19 and a reasonable amount of games behind him says you have to show him just a bit of respect.
Imo he should play instead of Silvagni 194/?? who is a bit meh imo. Like us Carlton have their undeserving favorite sons who get games i suppose.
McKay 204/104 at f/f C Curnow 192/94 at chf and DeKoning 203/102 in a fwd pocket giving Pittonet a chop out in the ruck would make for very difficult match ups indeed. they may even play all 4.
I would match them up with Tarrant 196/96 to McKay , Grimes 193/92 to Curnow and Miller 198/98 to DeKoning.
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Grimes unlikely you'd think after surgery today for a thumb injury
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Injury watch: Who is racing the clock to be fit for round one?
The Tigers received a blow ahead of round one with co-captain Dylan Grimes in doubt for the Carlton clash next week after undergoing surgery to repair a thumb ligament injury sustained in the AAMI Community Series clash with Hawthorn. They will be without gun midfielder Kane Lambert, who could be a long-term absence as he deals with his hip injury, while Jack Graham remains touch-and-go for the start of the season due to a summer hit with problems including with his back, hip and hamstring. Nick Vlastuin is expected to be ready for round one despite a hamstring niggle, while younger midfielder Riley Collier-Dawkins has overcome sore ribs. Draftee Sam Banks has been battling a quad problem across the pre-season but has rejoined training recently and will be eyeing games soon.
- By Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/716190/injury-watch-who-is-racing-the-clock-to-be-fit-for-round-one-
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Dimma on Talking Tigers:
* We'll be playing two rucks in both Nank and Soldo.
* No guarantee Balta will play forward in round 1.
* Carrying 5 talls at the moment. Deciding whether to go with that or play one less and Dusty plays more forward.
* Gibcus thereabouts for round 1 selection.
* Richo asked if Ralphsmith was a smokey for round 1 and Dimma replied "yes, he'll be thereabouts for round 1".
* Graham probably touch and go for round 1. Will definitely be available for round 2. We want to make sure he plays round 2 and onwards so we don't want to push him too early and he gets re-injured.
ps. Richo said he's heard they're expecting a crowd of 85k.
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With outs like Grimes, Lambert, graham, vlastuin maybe then I'd expect to see the likes of Gibcus (move Balta forward, Dusty to mid), Ralph etc.
It's only R1 anyway...
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THE AFL, as part of the Victorian Festival of Football, has announced a special ticket offer on all five AFL matches in Victoria in Round One of the 2022 Toyota AFL Premiership Season.
All Adult General Admission tickets will be $22 for 22 hours beginning at 12pm AEDT on Wednesday, March 9, and concluding at 10am AEDT on Thursday, March 10, unless sold out prior.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/716575/bargain-22-tickets-in-22-hours-for-victorian-festival-of-football
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CARLTON v RICHMOND
Thursday March 17, 7:25pm at the MCG
RICHMOND - Team Tips:
The Tigers named a strong side for their final practice match ahead of Round 1, but were without injured trio Nick Vlaustin, Kane Lambert and Jack Graham. Graham and Vlastuin (both hamstring) are both in doubt to play Round 1, while Lambert (hip) could be set to spent several months on the sidelines as the club ponders sending him in for surgery. A Round 1 debut looms for Pick 9 Josh Gibcus after slotting into the Tigers’ new-look back six seamlessly alongside recruit Robbie Tarrant; the pair’s inclusions would help replace Dylan Grimes, with the new club co-captain essentially ruling himself out on Wednesday following thumb surgery. Grimes said he would miss “a couple of weeks”, per AFL Media.
CARLTON - Team Tips:
The Blues are set to welcome back Charlie Curnow and Jacob Weitering, who were both rested for last Thursday’s AAMI Community Series clash against Melbourne, to give Michael Voss’ side a massive boost at either end of the ground. The key position pair could replace Oscar McDonald and Tom De Koning. Sam Docherty has put himself right in the frame for an inspirational return to the senior side after racking up 38 disposals in a VFL practice match against the Casey Demons, with Jordan Boyd the one who could make way for the ex-skipper. Corey Durdin impressed with two goals in the first half before leaving the field with a calf injury, but Voss said post-match it was nothing to worry about. Sam Walsh is making a shock bid for an early return for a syndesmosis injury suffered a month ago. Originally expected to miss 8-10 weeks, the superstar midfielder is “chomping at the bit for Round 1” according to captain Patrick Cripps, though Round 2 or 3 looks more likely.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2022-afl-teams-round-1-team-tips-predicted-squads-lineups-injuries-ins-and-outs-changes-debuts-supercoach/news-story/7e6bab63348cd39bc656ff5e67890d06
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Going by training it doesn't look like Floss will be playing round 1 :-\. So that will be another significant out along with Grimesy. Good news though that Graham is back training fully. Hopefully he now gets up to play :pray.
My current guess at our 22 for round 1:
B: Broad Gibcus Mansell
HB: Short Tarrant D.Rioli
C: Edwards Prestia McIntosh
HF: Bolton Lynch Baker
F: Castagna Riewoldt Balta
R: Nankervis Cotchin Martin
Int: Soldo Graham Ralphsmith Ross
23rd man sub: Aarts
Injured: Grimes, Vlastuin, Lambert.
- Don't think Aarts should be in the '23' but it's who I think Dimma will go with based on preseason team selection.
- If Balta does play as a forward then Miller could come in. Depends if Dimma is willing to go with Gibcus in his first game as a 2nd tall or not and if Dimma is willing or not to move Balta back into defence if Carlton's tall forwards start getting on top.
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Miller has to play now in R1.
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Going by training it doesn't look like Floss will be playing round 1 :-\. So that will be another significant out along with Grimesy. Good news though that Graham is back training fully. Hopefully he now gets up to play :pray.
My current guess at our 22 for round 1:
B: Broad Gibcus Mansell
HB: Short Tarrant D.Rioli
C: Edwards Prestia McIntosh
HF: Bolton Lynch Baker
F: Castagna Riewoldt Balta
R: Nankervis Cotchin Martin
Int: Soldo Graham Ralphsmith Ross
23rd man sub: Aarts
Injured: Grimes, Vlastuin, Lambert.
- Don't think Aarts should be in the '23' but it's who I think Dimma will go with based on preseason team selection.
- If Balta does play as a forward then Miller could come in. Depends if Dimma is willing to go with Gibcus in his first game as a 2nd tall or not and if Dimma is willing or not to move Balta back into defence if Carlton's tall forwards start getting on top.
Seems like we're trying to fit Aarts in I don't like that .Dow ,Hugo and RCD better options.
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This could just be Carlton's time to win in round one
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This could just be Carlton's time to win in round one
Yep, & tp think the last time we lost Rd 1 was 2014 v Gold Coast !
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McKay going to play? Thought he was touch and go
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MOCK TEAMS: Who's in your club's best 22 for round 1
Callum Twomey & Riley Beveridge
afl.com.au
11 March 2022
RICHMOND
B: Josh Gibcus, Robbie Tarrant, Daniel Rioli
HB: Jayden Short, Nathan Broad, Nick Vlastuin
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Trent Cotchin, Shane Edwards
HF: Shai Bolton, Noah Balta, Liam Baker
F: Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna
Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Dustin Martin
I/C: Ivan Soldo, Hugo Ralphsmith, Jack Ross, Jake Aarts
EMERG: Will Martyn, Bigoa Nyuon, Marlion Pickett, Maurice Rioli
NEW: Robbie Tarrant, Josh Gibcus, Bigoa Nyuon
UNAVAILABLE: Kane Lambert (hip), Jack Graham (hamstring), Dylan Grimes (thumb)
NOTES: The Tigers look set to be without co-captain Grimes due to a thumb injury suffered in the AAMI Community Series, but Vlastuin is pushing to return from his hamstring injury to face the Blues. Ralphsmith has looked good in the pre-season off half-back while Nyuon could be a chance in the backline to replace Grimes if the Tigers want to look that way. Gibcus appears set for a round one debut after being the club's top pick at last year's NAB AFL Draft, with Balta sent forward this season.
CARLTON
B: Mitch McGovern, Jacob Weitering, Sam Docherty
HB: Zac Williams, Oscar McDonald, Adam Saad
C: Lochie O'Brien, Adam Cerra, Will Setterfield
HF: Matt Kennedy, Charlie Curnow, Zac Fisher
F: Jack Silvagni, Harry McKay, Corey Durdin
FOLL: Marc Pittonet, Patrick Cripps, George Hewett
I/C: Tom De Koning, Jack Martin, Nic Newman, Matt Owies
EMG: Brodie Kemp, Lachie Plowman, Jack Newnes, Ed Curnow
NEW: Adam Cerra, George Hewett
UNAVAILABLE: Liam Stocker (syndesmosis), Sam Walsh (syndesmosis), Caleb Marchbank (knee), David Cuningham (knee), Josh Honey (knee)
NOTES: The big watch is on Docherty, who returned via a VFL practice match last Thursday and may still have work to do to prove his fitness for round one. He racked up 38 touches, which could put him in line to play, but Plowman will be on standby if he doesn't. The Blues will weigh up whether to play two rucks in Pittonet and De Koning, along with Silvagni. However, the fact their round one opponents the Tigers have a depleted backline could tempt Michael Voss to go tall and throw all of them into the mix. McGovern is down back, McDonald should get the nod ahead of new recruit Lewis Young, while Durdin and Owies will likely start as the small forwards after impressive pre-seasons on the track.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/716390/mock-teams-who-s-in-your-club-s-best-22-for-round-one-
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Round 1 tickets still available! Don’t miss our blockbuster clash against Carlton.
Secure tickets here: https://hotshow4.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=CARLT0122
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1502143024587063296
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The RFC website has a competition to guess the round 1 team.
https://tb.richmondfc.com.au/tb_app/472948
Defenders (Select 6):
Vlastuin, Grimes, Tarrant, Baker, Short, D.Rioli, Broad, Balta, Gibcus, Brown, McIntosh, Mansell, Banks, Stack, Ralphsmith, Miller.
Midfielders (Select 5):
Prestia, Martin, Ross, Cotchin, Edwards, Caddy, Collier-Dawkins, Dow, Bolton, McIntosh, Graham, Martyn, Cumberland, Sonsie, Clarke, Ralphsmith, Pickett.
Forwards (Select 6):
Baker, Riewoldt, Edwards, Castagna, D.Rioli, Aarts, Lynch, Soldo, Balta, Caddy, Lambert, Nankervis, Bolton, Ryan, Parker, Stack, M.Rioli jnr.
Rucks (Select 1):
Soldo, Nankervis, Colina, Nyuon.
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If they beat us now they never will.....#theirstolose :shh
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Callum Twomey on the AFL website has Aarts in the side for round 1.
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Jake Aarts v Maurice Rioli jnr
Aarts has been a mainstay of Richmond's line-up for the past two years, playing 35 games across the 2020-21 campaigns, including all bar one game last season. He brings important pressure and defensive actions inside the forward-50 and can also hit the scoreboard after kicking 18 goals last year. He will hold his spot for round one against the Blues but a position battle could be one to watch at a point this season with Rioli, who played the last two games of 2021 and also had some game time against Hawthorn in the AAMI Community Series. Rioli has some tricks as a small forward and will excite Tigers fans so could get some more exposure this year. - Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/716643/up-for-grabs-the-battle-is-on-for-this-spot-in-your-team
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Callum Twomey on the AFL website has Aarts in the side for round 1.
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Jake Aarts v Maurice Rioli jnr
Aarts has been a mainstay of Richmond's line-up for the past two years, playing 35 games across the 2020-21 campaigns, including all bar one game last season. He brings important pressure and defensive actions inside the forward-50 and can also hit the scoreboard after kicking 18 goals last year. He will hold his spot for round one against the Blues but a position battle could be one to watch at a point this season with Rioli, who played the last two games of 2021 and also had some game time against Hawthorn in the AAMI Community Series. Rioli has some tricks as a small forward and will excite Tigers fans so could get some more exposure this year. - Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/716643/up-for-grabs-the-battle-is-on-for-this-spot-in-your-team
He has earned his position. Until someone takes it from him which will be hard as he fights for every scrap, he stays.
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Seems Twomey still has Aarts as a small forward in our side when he's being training with our mids this preseason and played as a mid in both Community Series matches. So Aarts is competing with the likes of Ross, Dow, RCD and Sonsie IMV and is obviously behind all our premiership mids in the pecking order. Based on line groupings, our three small forwards at this stage will be George, Bolton and Baker. Maurice Jnr is a fair way off. He's not going to get a game ahead of those guys. He needs time in the VFL to work on many aspects of his game. None of our cubs have had that chance over the past two years with the VFL cancelled due to covid.
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According to Balmey:
- Grimes is keen to play.
- Vlastuin likely ruled out.
- Gibcus expected to line-up down back alongside Tarrant.
Double trouble: McKay, Curnow to face Tigers, Grimes in fight to be fit
Jon Pierik
The Age
March 13, 2022 — 5.47pm
Carlton expect key forwards Harry McKay and Charlie Curnow to be fit for selection, while Richmond co-captain Dylan Grimes trained on Sunday and is desperate to take to the field in Thursday night’s blockbuster at the MCG.
The Blues have a tough call to make on Sam Docherty. The former co-captain has made a stirring return from chemotherapy, but the Blues must determine whether he would be better off having another game in the VFL earlier on Thursday. Star defender Jacob Weitering was rested from the Demons’ clash but is also set to return.
The Tigers will have to make a call on new co-captain Grimes, who had surgery last week on a fractured left thumb and was in a cast. Grimes has hopes of playing but the Tigers’ medical staff will have significant input on how wise a decision this would be so early in the new season.
Tigers’ senior advisor Neil Balme said Grimes, who trained with the thumb bandaged on Sunday, was keen to play. The Tigers’ match committee met on Sunday, but a final call had yet to be made.
“Grimes is reasonably confident but no certainty. He is very keen, but we won’t take a silly risk on him. He did a bit today [Sunday]. The doc was much more confident today than he had been, but he is still no certainty. It’s just a matter of how he recovers from it,” Balme said.
Fellow defender Nick Vlastuin is nursing a hamstring issue and will likely be ruled out.
Balme said recruit Robbie Tarrant, the former North Melbourne key defender, and star draftee Josh Gibcus were expected to line up. Gibcus, an emerging key defender, has been praised for his athleticism and development over summer, and has spent considerable time manning up veteran Jack Riewoldt.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/double-trouble-mckay-curnow-to-face-tigers-grimes-in-fight-to-be-fit-20220313-p5a48p.html
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Crowd predictions according to Tom Browne on 7news.
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/other/CrowdsRound12022.png)
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1502916003059052546
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HeraldSun is saying Graham won't return until round 2.
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Richmond is set to unveil teenager Josh Gibcus, the club’s first top-10 pick since Nick Vlastuin (2012), and Robbie Tarrant (North Melbourne) in a refreshed back six.
Jack Graham (hamstring) will return against Greater Western Sydney in round 2 while co-captain Dylan Grimes is racing the clock to take on Carlton after thumb surgery.
But the arrival of Gibcus and Tarrant has allowed Hardwick to experiment with stuff Noah Balta forward as the Tigers look to add depth following the departures of Callum Coleman-Jones (North Melbourne) and Mabior Chol (Gold Coast).
They will buck the trend and play twin rucks as Toby Nankervis partners with Ivan Soldo, who missed the 2020 flag and all of 2021 with a knee injury.
They teamed up with great effect in the 2019 finals as the Tigers stormed to another premiership.
Liam Baker, who boasts Shane Edwards-like versatility, will join Shai Bolton and Jason Castagna in the forward line, allowing a fitter Dustin Martin to increase his midfield minutes.
Hugo Ralphsmith has also barged his way into the squad, likely to replace Bachar Houli at halfback and shine aerially.
Sacked Blues coach David Teague is now plotting Carlton’s downfall from Hardwick’s box as Richmond’s new forwards coach.
Thursday will mark 3112 days since Carlton beat Richmond, dating back to Chris Judd’s shining moment as a Blue in the 2013 elimination final.
The Tigers have won 11-straight since and enter this season hunting a fourth premiership in six years.
Source: HeraldSun.
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RICHMOND co-captain Dylan Grimes is making a late push to face Carlton on Thursday night.
Grimes last week underwent thumb surgery, putting him in doubt to play Round 1.
But the star defender moved well at training on Sunday morning, taking part in contact work and some match simulation.
Grimes’ possible inclusion would leave the Tigers’ match committee with a selection conundrum and whether they should name top-10 draftee Josh Gibcus, who’s impressed during the pre-season as a key defender, for a Round 1 debut. Nick Vlastuin is also pushing to play after being sidelined recently with a hamstring injury.
The Tigers are set to be without Jack Graham (hamstring), while triple premiership midfielder Kane Lambert (hip) could be sidelined for several months.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-1-2022-news-latest-updates-injury-lists-supercoach-team-whispers/news-story/256988c194b6173cf89cfb189d3d47b2
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Dimma previewing the Carlton game:
WATCH: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1077699/hardwick-previews-carlton?videoId=1077699&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1647305443001
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Richmond’s Dylan Grimes set to play in round 1 but co-captain Toby Nankervis stuck in health and safety protocols
Mark McGowan
The Australian
15 March 2022
Richmond’s triple premiership defender Dylan Grimes is poised to play in round 1 barely a week after thumb surgery, but his fellow co-captain hasn’t trained for the past week.
Toby Nankervis is due out of the AFL’s health and safety protocols on Wednesday – a day before the Tigers do battle with Carlton – but coach Damien Hardwick said he was a certain starter.
Josh Gibcus will make his AFL debut and Ivan Soldo is in for his first match since round 17, 2020, but Nick Vlastuin (hamstring) has suffered a setback.
Jack Graham (hamstring) will try to push his case at training on Tuesday, while Kane Lambert (hip) has dodged surgery but there is no return timeline for him.
“Dylan’s responded really well. We probably thought he’d be in some form of doubt for the round 1 game but he trained strongly Sunday and he’ll hopefully train strongly again (on Tuesday),” Hardwick said.
“‘Nank’ won’t train today because he’s in health and safety protocols, but he’ll be available to play on Thursday, which is a great result.
“He went in last Wednesday (but hasn’t been able to train) … so you can imagine what his house is like. He’d be running through walls and hopefully his house needs a bit of demo work.
“I’m tipping he’ll be fired up when he gets out. So, it’s going to be a challenge but I’m sure all clubs are going through it at this stage.”
Grimes’ likely availability is a boon for Richmond, given Vlastuin will miss multiple matches to start the season and with former Kangaroo Robbie Tarrant and top-10 draftee Gibcus still learning the defensive system.
But Hardwick plans to stick with swingman Noah Balta in a three-pronged tall forward line, alongside veterans Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch.
“We’ve trained him as a forward this year, with the eye of what he can possibly offer,” he said.
“That’s not to say that at some stages he won’t play down back but it’s always good to have options as a coach, where you can stuff the magnets and push a guy forward or push a guy back when you need him.
“Bringing in Robbie Tarrant has certainly helped with a bigger body down there also, and the emergence of Josh Gibcus, our first-round pick, has allowed us to move a few things around.”
Hardwick remains bullish about the Tigers’ season prospects despite missing finals last year but acknowledged they had some catching up to do.
“Our expectations are high, so we expect to play some good footy for a long period of time, but there are some sides that have gone past us,” he said.
“We’ve got to make sure we continue to play our very best footy and put our best foot forward.
“The greatest thing about an AFL coach and all coaches is you’re always trying to be the underdog – and we are that this year, so that’s our challenge.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/afl-richmonds-dylan-grimes-set-to-play-in-round-1-but-cocaptain-toby-nankervis-stuck-in-health-and-safety-protocols/news-story/75748643280ad4ab383a324a72051a22
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The Ticketek website only has M1, Q7-12 and Q53-57 available in the public reserve.
https://premier.ticketek.com.au/events/CARLT0122/venues/MCG/performances/EMCT0000022A/tickets
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Whereas the MCG website has:
GENERAL ADMISSION SEATING
Great Southern Stand
Q1-Q6
Ponsford Stand
Q29-Q36
Olympic Stand
Q49-Q55 (rows AA-MM)
Please note that general admission areas are subject to change.
Look out for updates on available general admission areas on a match day via the MCG's Twitter page.
Public ticket sales will be available from Gates 1 and 3.
CHEER SQUAD ALLOCATIONS
Carlton - M3 rows A-V
Richmond - M33 rows A-S
Opening times - Gates
Public 5.00pm
AFL Reserve 5.00pm
MCC Reserve 5.00pm
Parking
Gate 3: Closed
Gate 5: 4.00pm*
Gate 6: Closed
Gate 7: 12.00pm*
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https://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2022/march/afl-round-1---carlton-v-richmond-march-17-2022
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I know some people don't rate him but no Kmac is a big loss on a wing as he's a two way runner. So who comes in as a winger? Pickett? :-\
If Grimes plays then it's as a KPD as it involves less tacking than playing on a small forward.
My current guess at our 22 for round 1:
B: Broad Grimes Gibcus
HB: Short Tarrant D.Rioli
C: Edwards Prestia Pickett
HF: Bolton Balta Baker
F: Castagna Lynch Riewoldt
R: Nankervis Cotchin Martin
Int: Soldo Graham Ralphsmith Ross
23rd man sub: Aarts
Injured: Vlastuin, Lambert, McIntosh.
Once again I wouldn't have Aarts in the 23 but I think Dimma will pick him. I would rather Brown or Dow.
If Grimes doesn't come up then I'd expect Balta will go back (he trained today with the backs) and we bring in another mid/small.
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That’s a cracking forward line
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Jack Graham available to play on Thursday night according to Peter Burge.
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Round 1 Team:
B: Broad Tarrant Grimes (C)
HB: Short Gibcus D.Rioli
C: Ralphsmith Prestia Graham
HF: Edwards Balta Bolton
F: Baker Lynch Riewoldt
R: Nankervis (C) Cotchin Martin
Int: Soldo, Pickett, Ross, Castagna
23rd: Aarts
Emg: Brown, Caddy, Miller, Dow
:gotigers
Injured: Vlastuin, Lambert, McIntosh
Does Richmond have vice-captains???
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Interestingly the club and new recruits rate McIntosh highly as a gut running player who sacrifices his own game for the benefit of the club, let’s see who the runners are without Macca and Lambert
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Hmmm the anticipation is building !!
I actually haven’t been this excited since the start of 2017 tbh.
Even though we have retained a lot of players, there are also many changes.
Baker and balta up forward.
Tarrant and gibcus down back.
2 new captains.
Cotchin looking refreshed already.
Teague’s influence.
Soldo looking surprisingly impactful.
Interested to see how the likes of Bolton, Graham, Balta progress this year because they are the future.
Also RCD, Sonsie, Brown.
Want to see Stack return to that great form he had. Watched that bump on viney the other day.. never gets old.
I think Tom Lynch is also due for a huge year.
Plenty to be excited about.
GO TIGES.
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"You're not going to see that this year."
Ross Lyon breaks down where the Blues look to have already improved under Michael Voss.
#9FootyClassified | Watch @Channel9
https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1503702607411490820
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Team looks good.
I wanted to see Mansell maybe.
Otherwise very excited to see a taller forward line and backline, plus Bolton + Baker + Edwards to lock the ball in F50.
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Round 1 Team:
B: Broad Tarrant Grimes (C)
HB: Short Gibcus D.Rioli
C: Ralphsmith Prestia Graham
HF: Edwards Balta Bolton
F: Baker Lynch Riewoldt
R: Nankervis (C) Cotchin Martin
Int: Soldo, Pickett, Ross, Castagna
23rd: Aarts
Emg: Brown, Caddy, Miller, Dow
:gotigers
Injured: Vlastuin, Lambert, McIntosh
Does Richmond have vice-captains???
This the official team? I don't doubt it but we normally have a Official them thread.
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Fresh faces
The Tigers have announced first-round draft pick Josh Gibcus will debut against the Blues after impressing through the pre-season. Former Kangaroo Robbie Tarrant will be standing right alongside the youngster, also wearing yellow and black for the first time. Tom Brown is not far off a senior chance, but COVID issues have hampered his pre-season and spoiled any hopes of a round one call up. - Howard Kimber
https://www.afl.com.au/news/719039/who-s-sore-who-s-new-every-club-s-injury-watch-and-fresh-faces
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Kane Cornes trolling us once again by being the only one on the AFL website not to tip us.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/719203/who-wins-r1-two-flag-fancies-get-donuts-kane-s-tiger-pain
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This the official team? I don't doubt it but we normally have a Official them thread.
Nah FT, that's just torch's guessimate.
Having said that my 'Spy' says the 23 both torch and MT have plus Dow, Mansell & Parker will make the up the squad of 26 based on training today in the Captain's Run.
So that's Grimes, Prestia, Dusty, Ross, Tarrant, Baker, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Edwards, Castagna, Short, Aarts, D.Rioli, Lynch, Soldo, Balta, Nankervis, Dow, Gibcus, Bolton, Mansell, Graham, Broad, Parker, Ralphsmith, Pickett.
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Ticketek update:
Level 1 sections M9, M10 & Level 4 sections Q8-10, Q14-15, Q54-56 still available.
https://premier.ticketek.com.au/events/CARLT0122/venues/MCG/performances/EMCT0000022A/tickets
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If there's going to be any rain then it will be interesting if that affects team selection as far as playing 3 tall forwards and 2 rucks.
Melbourne weather - Thursday 17 March
Summary
Min 18
Max 29
Possible shower.
Possible rainfall: 0 to 2 mm
Chance of any rain: 40%
Melbourne area
Humid. Partly cloudy. Medium (50%) chance of showers, most likely in the morning and early afternoon, then again at night. The chance of a thunderstorm, less likely in the afternoon. Winds north to northeasterly 25 to 35 km/h tending north to northwesterly 20 to 30 km/h in the middle of the day then becoming light in the evening.
http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
Edit: Jane Bunn said the storm will be hit and miss. Most areas will be dry but there's a threat of a possible storm at the 'G tomorrow night.
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Tigers’ burning question: Are the dethroned premiers back to their best?
There’s been nothing but good signs from Richmond this pre-season after the side’s fall from grace in 2021. While there were departures at the end of last season, the acquisition of Robbie Tarrant has bolstered the defensive post and allowed Noah Balta to swing forward, while the likes of Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin have had some solid preparation for the season ahead. One gets the feeling there’s at least one last push in this dynasty side. Defeating Carlton to start the season would be the first step in a bid to restore the status quo and, given the optimism around the Blues, send a message to the rest of the competition.
Blues’ burning question: Will Mitch McGovern hold up when the real stuff starts?
Mitch McGovern’s pre-season in defence looked to be paying dividends given his impressive performance against Melbourne in the AAMI Community Series. His ability to play in that position effectively will be put to the test in a big way on Thursday, with Richmond’s forward line set-up of Jack Riewoldt, Tom Lynch and Noah Balta looking very ominous. Jonathan Brown told On The Couch: “I’m looking at Mitch McGovern going: ‘How didn’t this happen two years ago and sent down to defence by David Teague and the staff there to play the same position his brother has become an All-Australian dominant defender in? He looked like a real natural there, he reads the play beautifully and jumps at the ball.” How much McGovern will be able to play with freedom will be an interesting watch given the caliber of forward firepower the Tigers have; if it works, his five-year deal on an average of $800,000 could look quite a bit better.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-round-1-2022-tipping-afl-fixture-preview-the-blowtorch-tips-predictions-fox-footy-commentators-analysis/news-story/5e90e919012446219dda40a6bbc4016f
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Umps tomorrow night:
8 - Brett Rosebury
14 - Hayden Gavine
22 - Nathan Williamson
https://aflua.com.au/wp-content/uploads/AFL-Round-1.pdf
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No late changes for tonight's clash at the G'.
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1504359325975736322
7news said both Nank and Grimes was out there in the warm-up.
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Hugo is the sub.
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NO LATE CHANGES
MEDICAL SUBS
Richmond: Hugo Ralphsmith
Carlton: Tom Williamson
https://www.afl.com.au/news/720311/blues-out-to-voss-the-boss-tigers-subs-locked-in-live-from-7-25pm-aedt
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Carlton will be pumped up at the start with a new coach and all. Need to be at least with them at quarter time so we're not chasing. The focus will be around the clearances especially centre clearances. We have an advantage in the ruck with Nank, Soldo and Balta. We need to nullify their mids and have enough forward line pressure for repeat entries to expose their backline. Obviously, we also have to take our chances in front of goal as we've done through the preseason.
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Carlton will be pumped up at the start with a new coach and all. Need to be at least with them at quarter time so we're not chasing. The focus will be around the clearances especially centre clearances. We have an advantage in the ruck with Nank, Soldo and Balta. We need to nullify their mids and have enough forward line pressure for repeat entries to expose their backline. Obviously, we also have to take our chances in front of goal as we've done through the preseason.
I feel from Carlton what I felt from us at the start of 2017. Very exciting young team.
But we are the old cool heads. I wouldn’t be surprised if Carlton get out to a 4-5 goal lead early and we claw our way back.
Going to be a great game
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Should add no injuries please either (touchwood) :pray.
:gotigers
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Good transition from defence.
Bolts goals :gotigers
Rich 1.0-6
Carl 0.1-1
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Well done Grimesy :clapping.
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Excellent Rioli. Two bounces and well weighted pass to George 30 out. Misses :scream.
7 - 1
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Was that Aarts with the turnover in the middle? :banghead
Then Balta dropped a sitter :scream.
Gift goal to them :banghead
7 - 7
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So Aarts and Castagna still use the ball at under 9s level.
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Pickett started ok
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So Aarts and Castagna still use the ball at under 9s level.
both liabilities
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Poor kick by Pickett on the wing but we got away with it. Graham hands to Edwards great pass to Baker 25 out on an angle. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 2.1-13
Carl 1.1-7
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Rioli with another turnover. To Jack at HF who finds Bolts (good mark) on an angle 35 out. Misses though.
14 - 7
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So much for delay of game 50?
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Bolts is A-grade class :bow :gotigers.
Weaves and beats 3 Carlton defenders :bow :bow
Rich 3.2-20
Carl 1.2-8
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Bolton is a superstar
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Graham held at the centrebounce. Hands to Short running past who kicks long and Lynch marks b/w goals and points post. Misses. Should have kicked that.
21 - 8
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We get it back from the kick-in. Cotch to the hot spot and Lynch takes the pack mark. Gets this one. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 4.3-27
Carl 1.2-8
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We can put them to the sword here. Need to put them away now.
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Very lucky Aarts. The free was there but the fumble before that almost turned it over. Misses.
28 - 9
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Soldo punches it forward from the stoppage at HF. Nank gathers quickly to Jack who cops a high one. Jack misses though.
Another gettable chance :scream.
Quarter time
Richmond 4.5-29
Carlton 1.3-9
Goals: Bolton 2, Lynch, Baker.
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Hopefully we can put them away this quarter.
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We've nullifed most of the stoppages. Shows how much we've missed Soldo. A couple of clearances where we allowed the Blues to get out the defensive side but they turned it over so it wasn't costly. Need to watch that.
Turnover game working well.
Need to make the most of our inside 50s which we dominated that quarter 17 - 9 . Missed at least 3 gettable set shots.
Credit where it's due to Pickett. Doing well on his wing so far keeping his width.
Bolton is unbelievable.
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Riewoldt with some right hand injury according to Abby?
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Poor manning up to start this quarter.
Poor kicks too. Soldo set up there. Needed to be in front of him.
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Dumb frees and 50s :banghead. Gifting them possession and field position when we have them stuck in our forward line :banghead.
29 - 23
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Weve Wasted our first quarter lead.
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Prestia stuffed again
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Prestia subbed out. Soft tissue injury :(.
Hugo subbed on.
Geez we're playing crap this qtr :scream.
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What was Soldo doing there? :P
Our intensity has dropped away. We're half asleep.
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Trade Prestia after this year. Had enough.
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Some horrible mistakes here, atrocious
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Poor footy and we've just thrown away out lead.
29 - 30
It's an intensity and workrate problem. 2nd to the ball across the park.
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Too many Tigers panicking and getting sucked into the honeypot allowing free Blues players outside.
Too many mistackles too :banghead.
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And that's why I hate the stand rule! That had no effect on Docherty playing on :banghead
Another gifted goal to them :banghead.
29 - 37
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Why are we always on the wrong side of 50’s
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And that's why I hate the stand rule! That had no effect on Docherty playing on :banghead
Another gifted goal to them :banghead.
29 - 37
It was paid for running in the protected zone wasn’t it ?
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Wtf 🤬 these umpires
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You know the rules Tiges as stupid and technical as they are now :banghead.
Brainless out there :help.
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Pickett should have kept going. Kick to Bolton needed to be better too. Bolts misses.
30 - 39
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50 to Grimes. It gets to George on the boundary 35 out. Misses and rushed.
31 - 39
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Why kick it 1 (Pickett) vs 3?
Dumb footy this qtr :banghead
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Going to be a looooong year
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Idiot netball I can’t watch it. Give ‘em bibs with there positions
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Can't stand the rules but we do not help ourselves at all...
The Grimes one was the only one there me thinks.
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Couple of standout points after half a game.
Rioli is no defender, soft.
Ive been a Castagna fan but enough is enough. With that snap in 2nd quarter he gave himself zero percent chance of kicking the goal. Time for another.
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Half-time
Richmond 4.5 4.7-31
Carlton 1.3 5.9-39
Goals: Bolton 2, Lynch, Baker.
Pathetic brainless footy! :banghead
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Trade Prestia after this year. Had enough.
Wouldn't get a second rounder IMO.
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Prestia?
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We got pinged for 2 50 mtrs for being a millimetre over the mark which cost us goals, but when George marks in the pocket the umpire called out to the Carlton player on the mark to get back a metre. Three times he called out ‘back a metre’ but the Carlton player never moved …. Soooo …. what happens next? A 50 mtr penalty for the obvious? Or make George shoot from the boundary line? Hmm …. :-\
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Can we fumble, miss tackles (pin the arm FFS!), miss open teammates by hand and foot and make any more mistakes if we tried? :banghead
Can we give away anymore dumb frees and 50s if we tried? The rules are stupid and umps screw us as it is without making it easy for the umps to pay decisions against us :banghead.
First 15 minutes of that quarter was just lazy as team. No intensity, pressure or team workrate. Gifted them the momentum on the inside and outside. The remainder we did lift and start getting our hands on it but we then stuffed up everything we touched :scream.
Where's our crumbers front and centre to Lynch and Jack by the way?
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Prestia?
Hammy.
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Like last night it’s a game of momentum. A few missed marks or bad kicks and all of a sudden you’re 4 goals down. Just need to keep the intensity and focus up.
Very soft quarter that.
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Prestia?
Hammy.
Has hamstrings made of fairy floss :banghead
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Prestia?
Hammy.
Has hamstrings made of fairy floss :banghead
Unfortunate but hard to believe he was cherry ripe if he does his hammy rd 1
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Time to mothball the meatball. How can you play him with any confidence?
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Stats to half-time:
Disposals: 166 - 186 .... ( contested: 57 - 63 ; uncontested: 101 - 120 )
Turnovers: 33 - 31 :banghead
Marks: 46 - 51
Clearances: 12 - 15 ..... ( centre: 7 - 3; stoppages: 5 - 12 )
Inside 50s: 23 - 28 ..... ( 6 - 19 in 2nd qtr) :help
Marks in50: 6 - 5
Tackles: 14 - 21
Tackles in50: 0 - 5
Hitouts: 9 - 12
Frees: 11 - 14
Short 13
Dusty 12
Grimes 10
Pickett 10
Prestia 10 ... ( subbed off )
Castagna 9
Ross 9
Kennedy 17
Cripps 16
Docherty 15
Hewett 13
Cerra 12
Setterfield 12
McDonald 11
https://www.afl.com.au/matches/3809#player-stats
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Stats to half-time:
Tackles: 14 - 21
Tackles in50: 0 - 5
That's an indictment right there. Just 14 tackles in a whole half of footy. Soft as!
Zero tackles inside F50 is not us 2017-2020. Small forwards need a kick up the backside from Dimma.
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Once again no smalls at ground level :banghead.
Pickett long and it's rushed.
32 - 39
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We get it back from the kick-in. Ross hits up Sheds 40 out. Misses.
33 - 39
Our set shot kicking tonight has been rubbish.
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Dusty long. Weitering gets caught under the ball. Lynch marks and goals :gotigers.
Scores level :o.
Rich 5.9-39
Carl 5.9-39
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Balta moved forward.
Dumb trying a low % shot from there btw.
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We get it back. George to Aarts who is legged 35m out directly in front. Goal! :gotigers
We're in front! :o
Rich 6.9-45
Carl 5.9-39
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Protect the defensive side of the stoppage Tiges!
45 all.
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Soldo free at the centrebounce. Goes long and Balta marks in the front of the pack 30 out. Goal! :gotigers
We get it straight back.
Rich 7.9-51
Carl 6.9-45
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Another unnecessary free (Graham) :banghead
Lucky they miss.
51 - 46
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LOL @ the 7 commentators saying that front on contact to Hugo wasn't a free. The Carlton player didn't look at the ball.
Hugo missed everything though :scream.
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Ross to George who has lifted this qtr. Finds Balta on the boundary 35 out. WOW! GOAL! :gotigers
Rich 8.9-57
Carl 6.10-46
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Balta moved forward.
Dumb trying a low % shot from there btw.
Easy to say that but he is the kind of player to pull it off.
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Ross doing well this qtr. Off to the Graham. Goes long towards Lynch. Hits the turf and Jack is held 30m out. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 9.9-63
Carl 6.10-46
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Brainfades keeping them it. We were out there before Balta and Aarts stuffed it and then gave away 50 :banghead.
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Commentators are loving the Blues
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How many soft 50s do they want to give them?
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Aarts out for good
Prestia out
Ralph I think has been poor
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Why didn't Hugo take a bounce? :huh
Baker free. Goes long and Dusty is held in the contest 30 out. Goal! :gotigers
Important goal before 3/4 time.
Rich 10.9-69
Carl 7.12-54
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3/4 time
Richmond 4.5 4.7 10.9-69
Carlton 1.3 5.9 7.12-54
Goals: Balta 2, Bolton 2, Lynch 2, Aarts, Baker, Martin, Riewoldt.
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I actually think we've had a handful of soft free tonight. Some of them in F50. Umpiring poor both ways.
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I actually think we've had a handful of soft free tonight. Some of them in F50. Umpiring poor both ways.
Holding seems to be the rule of the week
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Aarts out for good
Prestia out
Ralph I think has been poor
Aarts? been one of the best I reckon.
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How many 50s have they got so far
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Frustrating game. A mix of the very good and the mindboggling stupid.
Balta being moved forward made a massive difference. Credit to Dimma.
Some credit goes to Gibcus for the last goal to Dusty. That 30m spoil on the wing turned defence into attack.
Ross and George much better that quarter. Working harder.
Hugo needs to back himself and his pace when he is out in space. Been too indecisive.
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Dusty to Ross on the wing to HF. Sheds taps it out to Bolts who gathers and runs in and kicks the goal :gotigers
Rich 11.9-75
Carl 7.13-55
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Fumble :banghead
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We make too many mistakes.l especially in defence.
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Also carlton get the contested ball to easily. That has to be sorted out quick smart
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How many frees or 50’s resulting in a goal. Need to get our act together.
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That was a free for taking out the legs of Sheds :banghead.
That's why Graham threw it to Sheds you muppet umpire ::).
Ump goal to Carlton :banghead
75 - 67
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Aarts out for good
Prestia out
Ralph I think has been poor
Aarts? been one of the best I reckon.
He tries hard but I think his ceiling is too low and we have kids to blood.
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Shocking kick Ross.
ps. Yes we've missed tackles but no HTB to us tonight. So much for the new strict interpretation.
75 - 73
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Are we trying to lose?
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Yes
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Jack Ross is costing us the game.
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Getting smashed out of the middle.
Panic footy clearing out of defence (Gibcus did well though).
That two errors now by Ross that has turned over the ball.
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Why spend all summer telling us that the HTB rule will be stricter and then allow Carlton players to be spun around 360 degrees in the tackle ::).
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Midfield getting indecently assaulted.
This is why we needed to draft mids, no HBFs
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Our inability to nullify them at centre bounce clearance is a disgrace.
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Gets Aarts off please!
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Theyre one goal away from winning i reckon.
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Aarts, Ross, Castagna can't play next week.
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Aartz Ross Castagna shouldnt be in the side. If we lose we lost it on selection night.
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Hardwick loves battlers he wont drop them.
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This is a repeat of the 2nd qtr. They are working harder as a group getting numbers to the ball and going in harder in the contest.
75 - 91
This has been soft by us.
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Has Rioli done anything tonight?
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Based on tonight i doubt we make finals. Our work in clearance contests is amateurish at best.
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We finally breakout of our their forward line. Dusty to jack. Shots from 50. Misses.
76 - 92
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Based on tonight i doubt we make finals. Our work in clearance contests is amateurish at best.
I agree. 20 odd tackles. 1 tackle inside 50
Our clearance work is non existent especially without Prestia who has strings made of fairy floss
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We need 5 goals cant see it.
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Aarts again fumbles :banghead
Then we give away two 50s :banghead
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Dimma was to arrogant and cute with selection Aarts , Graham Ross.Hugo was flying preseason and Dow should have come in even Miller.
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We look slow.
And obviously our players didn’t get the memo from AFL about the stricter rules and 50 metre penalties. I think everyone else knew though.
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Jack Graham dropped next week.
Can't let that slide
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Cerra has had at least 5 free kicks from falling forward
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We’ve blown this in the centre square. Our mids are non competitive and our rucks have been flogged in the centre bounces and around the ground all night. I think some people on here overestimate Soldo’s ability and impact.
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Thrown under the bus yet again! :banghead
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Based on tonight i doubt we make finals. Our work in clearance contests is amateurish at best.
I agree. 20 odd tackles. 1 tackle inside 50
Our clearance work is non existent especially without Prestia who has strings made of fairy floss
Agree, were not that good
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Game over!
Disgraceful last quarter.
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Game has really gone past some of our blokes.
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Jack Graham dropped next week.
Can't let that slide
Agree
That was an absolute disgrace
We are so badly disciplined, and those complaining about the umpires or 50m count are dreaming
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They gave up, appalling effort in the last
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Skills look poor as last year ,tackling and pressure non existing and clearances when a we going to learn.
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Dimma and co. Have to realise its over for this group. They wont contend with this group of players.
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There's the two different rules ::).
Sheds gets his legs taken out and it's a free to Carlton. Kennedy gets his legs taken out and it's a free to Carlton.
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Graham not fit.
Ross not AFL standard
Not enough midfielders.
We aren’t fast any more poor old Cotchin can only play 60% game time now.
I didn’t see them but by the look of our vfl today we have some issues with our newbies too.
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Well thats ruined my week.
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Jack Graham dropped next week.
Can't let that slide
Ended Caddy's career so yeah you'd think there'd be some follow up
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Dimma needs to let go of the players not performing to cute in selections.
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Call off the search party, I just spotted Cotch in the last quarter.
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Graham not fit.
Ross not AFL standard
Not enough midfielders.
We aren’t fast any more poor old Cotchin can only play 60% game time now.
I didn’t see them but by the look of our vfl today we have some issues with our newbies too.
What happebned in the reserves
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The game as we know it is officially dead.
Umpiring playing too big a part
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Graham not fit.
Ross not AFL standard
Not enough midfielders.
We aren’t fast any more poor old Cotchin can only play 60% game time now.
I didn’t see them but by the look of our vfl today we have some issues with our newbies too.
What happebned in the reserves
We got smashed by 100
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Prestia is a massive loss. Clearance numbers turned after he went off. The 3rd quarter lead was built more through controlling the ball and playing tempo footy. Cotch can't play midfield full time anymore, Graham was underdone and when you've got Aarts as a mid then you know you're in trouble. Ross was solid in the 3rd qtr but his skills cracked under pressure in the last. Can't play mids with footskill deficiencies.
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Dimma needs to let go of the players not performing to cute in selections.
Poor effort in the box tonight. But i will say the rules have ruined this once great game. So hard to watch- like last year, not sure I'll be watching much until things change in the executive team for the AFL. Gil is pathetic!!
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Not an umpire basher, usually hate it when blokes on here carry on. But this quarter has been poorly umpired. 50m penalties were there but some seriously bad calls
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What happebned in the reserves
No one putting pressure on spots in the ressies. As pmac said we were smashed.
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FFS HOW MANY. 50’s is that?
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Well whilst it appears the reign is well and truely over ( if it wasn’t last year ) don’t write off the club to turn things around this year. I believe we can still finish top 4. Unfortunately as made evident tonight, we rely heavily on a healthy list at the best of times.
A couple of injuries and we are pretty screwed.
I’m excited by the development of the next gen tigers and that’s what I’ll be focusing on this year as a supporter. Finals is a plus and if we turn things around I’ll be stoked.
One striking thing I noticed tonight was lack of hunger for the contest from too many players.
Players backing off waiting for someone else to get the hard ball whilst Carlton just went and got it.
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Prestia is a massive loss. Clearance numbers turned after he went off. The 3rd quarter lead was built more through controlling the ball and playing tempo footy. Cotch can't play midfield full time anymore, Graham was underdone and when you've got Aarts as a mid then you know you're in trouble. Ross was solid in the 3rd qtr but his skills cracked under pressure in the last. Can't play mids with footskill deficiencies.
To cute he was for me in selections Graham underdone,Ross no skills ,why a we trying to fit Aarts in the 22 , Hugo and Dow better selections.
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Final Score
Richmond 4.5 4.7 10.9 11.10-76
Carlton 1.3 5.9 7.12 14.17-101
Goals: Bolton 3, Balta 2, Lynch 2, Aarts, Baker, Martin, Riewoldt.
20 pts up in the last and we caved coughing up 7.4 to 0.1. A repeat of the Collingwood game last year. Soft!
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Not an umpire basher, usually hate it when blokes on here carry on. But this quarter has been poorly umpired. 50m penalties were there but some seriously bad calls
This is the point, the rules have ruined the game. Number 5 for them falls flat on his guts all the time in a tackle, momentum takes the tackler with him, and it's a push in the back? Please
And what is with all the other pathetic rules in place? The 50 meter penalty rubbish rules...I'm done :shh
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Where is RCD, what’s going on with this bloke?
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Well done Carlton…what else can you say?
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The game as we know it is officially dead.
Umpiring playing too big a part
:bow thank god i am not alone
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Tackles inside 50. 14-1 their way.
Says a bit
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Only 3 blokes could manage 20+ touches.
Short the most with 22.
Midfield weak as pee.
Time for some change, need to get rid of some plodders.
Soldo injured also?
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Did Bolton attend a centre bounce in the last quarter?
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To much faith in some of the old warrior's the guard has to change for Dimma.
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Yeah midfield is screwed without Prestia and lambert. Not to mention an underdone Graham. Those 3 are crucial. No hard in rcd for ross at this stage.
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Did Bolton attend a centre bounce in the last quarter?
I saw him once in there. But yeah not sure why he wasn't used earlier.
Likewise Balta could've been thrown in the ruck to try to do something to curtail their centre clearance dominance.
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Yeah midfield is screwed without Prestia and lambert. Not to mention an underdone Graham. Those 3 are crucial. No hard in rcd for ross at this stage.
Prestia has been on one leg since 2019 and Lambert is also old and struggling to get on the park. Their days are very numbered. Cotchin even worse, Edwards also ageing.
And yet we drafted 1 potential mid in Sonsie. I'd have liked 3 mids and 2 talls. Instead we stocked up on half back flankers.
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Claw is gonna have a field day…
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We didn't look that fit either just quietly
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RCD was below par in the seconds I hear,
I suspect our old blokes will break down this year and we will struggle this year. Hope I’m wrong
Without the senior players we are an average side at this stage
Fitness is a worry as we couldn’t even run out the game,
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Claw is gonna have a field day…
He would have loved it
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Did Bolton attend a centre bounce in the last quarter?
I saw him once in there. But yeah not sure why he wasn't used earlier.
Likewise Balta could've been thrown in the ruck to try to do something to curtail their centre clearance dominance.
The days of Cotch attending every centre bounce are gone. We need to change things up in there big time. Bolton & Edwards need to be in there more. Even when Cotch gets it, he rarely turns it into a quality clearance these days.
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The sun will come up but Hardwick needs to make an early season statement at selection this week.
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The other thing that killed us tonight was our inability to stop them disposing of the ball to advantage in a tackle. We lost a lot of disputed ball because we couldn't halve contests. Was a problem last season too.
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We didn't need ball magnets in our glory years, but we could do with a couple now.
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We didn't need ball magnets in our glory years, but we could do with a couple now.
We didn't need them as our post-clearance work use to be our strength but now it's a liability. We just look lost for ideas especially when the opposition get a run on. We're flat-footed, reactive and don't function as a midfield group. We too often panic and our numbers get sucked into the honey pot which leaves the opposition with numbers on the rim of contests to win the clearances. It wasn't just tactical and stats. Carlton were just harder at the footy inside and our tackling was poor. Which is why we gave away too many frees. Sad to say but we were soft tonight. Just 32 team tackles for a whole game is 1.5 per Tiger. That's pathetic. Not good enough!
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I sensed this coming. We don’t have enough young midfield talent. We are relying on aging warriors while other teams are getting better, like Carlton with Cerra and Hewitt. It’s not surprising though. We haven’t had access to good picks because we’ve been challenging for flags. The system is designed this way. Three flags is a great return. It looks like we need to rebuild now which is completely understandable.
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Missed Lambert’s and Macca’s team running / lock down roles
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We looked gassed in the last half of that Q. We really need some younger guys to push players like Aarts and Castagna out of the side if there is any chance of beating sides in the top 8.
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Sometimes you can overthink things. In my view, we were outhunted - both for the pill and the man when the Blues had possession. Our lowest tackle count since 2015 says it all really.
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We played like dumb, arrogant twats, didn't tackle, conceded roughly 13 goals in two bursts of about 12 minutes each and yet we were leading by 20 points with 20 minutes to go. Not all doom and gloom.
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We played like we did last year. Like our best is past us…
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Not the best of nights up in the coaches box.
We're getting smashed on the centre in the final qtr and Dusty is watching on from the F50.
Edwards, Bolton hardly took a centre ball up. But Aarts did, I mean seriously?
Cotch sadly was a liability at times in the middle. Jack R was MIA for most of the game
The Soldo up forward while Nank was in the ruck simply didn't work.
And just on Nank, not a good game for our new skipper.
It was a really poor night on so many fronts.
Will be interesting to see what they do at the selection table
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Team Stats:
Disposals: 307 - 364 ..... ( contested: 114 - 135 ; uncontested: 188 - 225 )
Efficency%: 74 - 74
Kicks: 181 - 207
Handballs: 126 - 157
Turnovers: 66 - 60
Marks: 81 - 84 ..... ( contested: 8 - 4 )
Tackles: 32 - 42 :thumbsdown
Clearances: 22 - 40 ..... ( centre: 12 - 14 ; stoppages: 10 - 26 ) :help
Inside 50s: 40 - 64 :help
In50 eff.% 58 - 50
In50 marks: 10 - 11
In50 tackles: 1 - 14 :thumbsdown
Hitouts: 29 - 26
Bounces: 13 - 17
One %ers: 48 - 44
Frees: 20 - 28
Individual possies:
Martin 21
Short 21
Ross 20
Broad 18
Pickett 18
Bolton 16
Castagna 16
Aarts 14
Baker 14
Cotchin 14
Edwards 14
Graham 14
Grimes 14
Nankervis 13
D.Rioli 13
Tarrant 11
Balta 10
Gibcus 10
Prestia 10 .... ( subbed off 2nd qtr )
Ralphsmith 10 ... ( subbed on 2nd qtr )
Riewoldt 6
Lynch 5
Soldo 5
https://www.afl.com.au/matches/3809#player-stats
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Nearly everything that gave us premierships is non existent.
Pressure gone, tackling gone, forward 50 tackling gone. :help
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Not the best of nights up in the coaches box.
We're getting smashed on the centre in the final qtr and Dusty is watching on from the F50.
Edwards, Bolton hardly took a centre ball up. But Aarts did, I mean seriously?
Cotch sadly was a liability at times in the middle. Jack R was MIA for most of the game
The Soldo up forward while Nank was in the ruck simply didn't work.
And just on Nank, not a good game for our new skipper.
It was a really poor night on so many fronts.
Will be interesting to see what they do at the selection table
Great take WP. My thoughts exactly.
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As pee weak in the contest as I've seen since the nadir of the bad old days...and our tackling issues still haven't been addressed....a lot of things wrong, not to mention disturbingly familiar to the second half of last year, about this loss....but even with all that, if Prestia doesn't get injured we still would've won and quite comfortably...so stuff Carlton ... :shh
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Still think our smalls in out forward line big issue not enough goals or pressure and harassment.Defence looked good and talls up forward.
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Carlton +38 contested possessions, +18 clearances, +24 inside-50s and tackles I50 were 14-1. That was a mauling.
https://twitter.com/Adrian_Poly/status/1504413258219868166
:P
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The game was lost at the selection table eg selection of Aarts. We need to get games into the younger players eg Rioli Jnr, Dow, RCD, Miller. We were smashed in the middle. Kicking it long to a crowded a forward line where we can't trap the ball in after it goes to ground is a major problem. Need x factor of Stack.
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Did Bolton attend a centre bounce in the last quarter?
Yep, Bolton attended 4 centre bounces in the last quarter.
Like his teammates he didn't win a centre clearance either :-\.
Centre Bounce Attendances after Bolton's goal (our last):
Rucks: Nank 4, Soldo 2, Balta 1.
Mids: Cotch 5, Baker 5, Bolton 4, Graham 3, Dusty 2, Edwards 2.
1. Nank Cotch Dusty Graham ..... Dusty gathers but kicks into Cerra. Stoppage (ball up).
2. Nank Cotch Edwards Graham .... Free against Edwards (paid kicking in danger). 50m against Graham.
3. Nank Cotch Edwards Baker ..... Cotch gathers but kicks into Hewett. Cripps clearance kick.
4. Soldo Cotch Bolton Baker ...... Carlton first hands via all 3 mids. Cripps hands to Hewett hands to Kennedy clearance kick.
5. Soldo Graham Bolton Baker ..... Carlton first hands.
Tigers all drawn to Cripps but gang tackle fails to stop overhead handball.
Hewett clearance kick.
6. Balta Dusty Bolton Baker ...... De Koning grabs ball out of ruck and gets the clearance kick.
7. Nank Cotch Bolton Baker ...... Baker and Nank both chance of first hands but both fumble and are pressured out of it.
De Koning clearance kick.
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Yeah interesting. Dusty and Shedda only 2 bounces when we were getting routinely smashed in there. Cotch in at every bounce. We missed Prestia of course, but he is a non-factor now so we have to look closely at what we do in there.
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Pickett is another that could go to centre bounces. He's clever with his hands and isn't afraid to lay a big tackle.
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The biggest issue with our tackles is we don't pin arms. I lost count in 2nd half of how many times we'd tackle without pinning arms and Carlton were able to get a quick handball out.
This non pinning of the arms has been going on a while now.
And just on another issue I hate Carlton as much as the next person but I am not ashamed to say I was really happy for Sam Docherty especially after he kicked that goal.
Bloke's been through hell and to come back, well; is bloody good footy story
Very similar all those years back against N0rt when McCartney came back after the Bali bombings...
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We often got first hands on it in the centre bounces but gave it straight back...also another area affected by our peeweak tackling....Carlton win the ball we tackle them straight away but the either shrugged it off or still got the ball away...even with multiple tacklers on them....been killing us all over the ground for the last 12 months...also worth noting how many Carlton goals were either directly or indirectly from errors.... :shh
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The biggest issue with our tackles is we don't pin arms. I lost count in 2nd half of how many times we'd tackle without pinning arms and Carlton were able to get a quick handball out.
This non pinning of the arms has been going on a while now.
Agree, I raised that earlier in the thread. It goes back to having bigger bodies around stoppage - not sure what the fix is there, we just don't have the personnel. And bloody Cerra sucked in the umps about three times with this in the back while lying on the ground rubbish. Drives me crazy.
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Still staggers me that we don't/can't pin the arms in tackles....or watch the hips... :shh
Also annoying to see to two Richmond supporters in Cerra & Kennedy carving us up in Scum jumpers...horrible flashbacks to Wayne Harmes.... :help
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Voss and a couple of Carlton players (Jack Martin was one) who played last night have tested positive for covid.
Source: 7news.
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They had it before the game but carlton are scum and theyve put every plsyer on the field at risk.
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Has any in the media asked when and what the test were the day before the game
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Has any in the media asked when and what the test were the day before the game
on ch7 news said all yesterday's results were negative
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The biggest issue with our tackles is we don't pin arms. I lost count in 2nd half of how many times we'd tackle without pinning arms and Carlton were able to get a quick handball out.
This non pinning of the arms has been going on a while now.
We often got first hands on it in the centre bounces but gave it straight back...also another area affected by our peeweak tackling....Carlton win the ball we tackle them straight away but the either shrugged it off or still got the ball away...even with multiple tacklers on them....been killing us all over the ground for the last 12 months...also worth noting how many Carlton goals were either directly or indirectly from errors.... :shh
Both posts spot on. We've gone from being one of the best tackling teams to one of the worst. Technically we're ordinary, we're reactive and the intensity and hunger at and in the contest over 4 quarters is no longer there. Carlton mids wanted it more. They went in harder and lower, worked harder off the ball as a group and most of their tackles stuck.
ps. I mentioned our last main training session was sloppy and we weren't switched on properly. You often play as you train. It feels like standards have slipped over the past 12 months.
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Straight back in 2020 form I see. Just can’t understand how we can be wildly inconsistent within the 1 game. Q1 good, Q2 bad, Q3 good, Q4 horrible. We got smashed in the middle in Q2 and I thought without Prestia that would be the case for the rest of the night but then we came right back in Q3 only to not show up in Q4 :banghead Ahhhh well onto next week.
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Straight back in 2020 form I see. Just can’t understand how we can be wildly inconsistent within the 1 game. Q1 good, Q2 bad, Q3 good, Q4 horrible. We got smashed in the middle in Q2 and I thought without Prestia that would be the case for the rest of the night but then we came right back in Q3 only to not show up in Q4 :banghead Ahhhh well onto next week.
A mixture of fatigue, rule changes :thumbsdown, ill-discipline, age and hunger?
I felt we dominated Q1 when we were fresh, the first half of Q3 after the longer half-time break and we got the first goal of the last in the first 5 mins. We also played differently in Q3 with a more tempo style controlling possession. Carlton had more of the territory in the latter periods of Q3 and of course dominated Q2 & Q4. Yes our side is getting older but our ability to run out games has fallen away over the past 18 months as has our ability to stop opposition run ons. The Geelong (R8), West Coast and Collingwood games last year and now Carlton this year. Losing Rob Inness to the Swans was a big loss in hindsight.
Dumb costly yet preventable errors don't help either with giving the opposition the momentum of the game back and run ons which we are making more and more of. 5 of Carlton's 7 goals in the last quarter were off our own unforced errors :help. Two from 50m penalties (both by Graham although the first should've been a free to Sheds ::) ); Two from Ross turnovers in the back half; and then Gibcus' lose arm high contact free [first game and his only real mistake on the night so I'll cut him some slack]. They must have got at least 4 if not 5 goals from our 50m penalties across the night. That's the final margin right there.
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Playing 9 talls instead of the usual 7 means 1 or 2 less runners/mids , i wonder how much of an affect that had..
plus playing slow average players like aarts and ross on the wing..
Need a better structure , like melbourne
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Playing 9 talls instead of the usual 7 means 1 or 2 less runners/mids , i wonder how much of an affect that had..
plus playing slow average players like aarts and ross on the wing..
Need a better structure , like melbourne
True HB. Jack out (one less tall) and with Kmac back on a wing hopefully forces us into at least a better structure this week with the standard 2 KPFs, 2 KPDs & 2 Rucks.
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Yeah midfield is screwed without Prestia and lambert. Not to mention an underdone Graham. Those 3 are crucial. No hard in rcd for ross at this stage.
Prestia has been on one leg since 2019 and Lambert is also old and struggling to get on the park. Their days are very numbered. Cotchin even worse, Edwards also ageing.
And yet we drafted 1 potential mid in Sonsie. I'd have liked 3 mids and 2 talls. Instead we stocked up on half back flankers.
Yep I couldnt agree more, I was staggered draft night with the selections.
And on top of that our most damaging mid in Bolton was hardly in there
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Cerra has had at least 5 free kicks from falling forward
Yep bloke has the weakest knees I’ve ever seen
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Cerra has had at least 5 free kicks from falling forward
Yep bloke has the weakest knees I’ve ever seen
yep- and the rules of the current game reward such acts... :banghead
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Playing 9 talls instead of the usual 7 means 1 or 2 less runners/mids , i wonder how much of an affect that had..
plus playing slow average players like aarts and ross on the wing..
Need a better structure , like melbourne
Melbourne normally go with 8 talls.
The thing that stands out for me is the number of smalls we play every week as many as 11 at times.
Melbourne go roughly
8 talls 8 mediums and 6 smalls.
We only have the one power house mid in dusty that is good height and big bodied 187/90. the next biggest is Cotchin at 185/85 he hardly what you would call a big mid.
It just seems to me we have our issues with bigger mids because we dont have the size to match up on them hence i think the missed tackle count or the ease they seem to get their hands free to off load.
Will look into it as best i can but that is the feel i get when i watch us.
Thought it was crazy to play two ruckmen when we had the extra key fwd and agree thursdays set up was too tall
A player type we really lack is 188 - 192cm tall fwds who can take a grab but are quick and agile.
Id have no problem with two key fwds a 188 - 190ish medium and a couple of goal kicking small as our fwd line set up but we dont have the players on the list to set up like that so its usually two talls 3 smalls and dusty and others rotating thru there.
Yeah midfield is screwed without Prestia and lambert. Not to mention an underdone Graham. Those 3 are crucial. No hard in rcd for ross at this stage.
Prestia has been on one leg since 2019 and Lambert is also old and struggling to get on the park. Their days are very numbered. Cotchin even worse, Edwards also ageing.
And yet we drafted 1 potential mid in Sonsie. I'd have liked 3 mids and 2 talls. Instead we stocked up on half back flankers.
Yep I couldnt agree more, I was staggered draft night with the selections.
And on top of that our most damaging mid in Bolton was hardly in there
Yep we have had this discussion. Maybe not staggered but definately had an opportunity to address some midfield issues .
Going to keep on copping crap for this next one but i still think Luke Dunstan would have been a good to get as a f/a on a short contract and minor wages. Getting him was the cover in case Prestia went down.
We lack inside and purely as an inside player he was the best available player to offer a bit of cover and depth for us in this.
His inside stats last yr went at the following
25.0 Disposals - he got plenty of ball
16.7 Effective disposals.
5.0 Tackles- lots of tackles so when he didnt get first hands on it he was applying plenty of pressure
6.0 clearances just what we lack
4.5 score involvements
366 metres gained.
While his offensive game is nothing grand for an inside mid its okay. His inside game was pretty darn good and with the outside players we have we would have got him for some competitiveness at stoppages.
When you look at the inside game of our youngsters and even a player like Graham, Dunstan would have been a great fit for us even if it was to only fill in when injury hit. Id say atm our vfl team could do with some grunt inside and a few more mature heads about the place.
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We had the lowest inside 50’s for round 1 with only 40 :banghead
Even West Coast had more inside 50’s than us and their list has been decimated.
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Robbo in the HeraldSun is calling us "Soft Tigers" to describe our round 1 'effort'.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-one-of-the-2022-afl-season/news-story/971a84483b1ef607f845091a71b64d64
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AFL Report Card: Round 1
Ben Cotton, David Zita, Catherine Healey and Max Laughton
Foxsports
21 March 2022
RICHMOND
Not the ideal start to the season for the Tigers in a rare Round 1 loss to the Blues. Richmond had control for a significant portion of the night, but got smashed in clearances 2-17 in the fourth quarter as Carlton’s midfield domination helped them run over the top of Damien Hardwick’s side. Adding to the Tigers’ woes were injury setbacks to Dion Prestia (hamstring) and Jack Riewoldt (suspected broken thumb). Despite sticking with — and even leading Carlton on the scoreboard for the majority of the night, there weren’t many positives. Although North Melbourne great David King did highlight the Tigers’ ability to switch gears and play more a measured game in addition to their chaos style.
In the votes
Shai Bolton (16 disposals, three goals) was brilliant for Richmond, particularly early, and showed he’s in for a big season, while Noah Balta kicked two goals after switching forward in the third quarter after keeping Charlie Curnow quiet. Unfortunately, not many others Tigers were up for the fight.
Room for improvement
There’s several things for the Tigers to work on, but being more competitive in the midfield is a clear priority. Carlton — even without Sam Walsh — smashed them inside the contest behind big outings from Matt Kennedy, Patrick Cripps, Adam Cerra and George Hewett. This makes the loss of Prestia that much harder to bear. Richmond will need wise heads Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin to take ownership on the ball and several others to step up.
Grade
D+
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-report-card-round-1-2022-afl-news-analysis-every-club-graded-best-and-worst-players-votes-reaction/news-story/819f4c3c3ecb36b17fbb2d0007e8f669
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Voss)
Carlton v Richmond
10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
8 Matthew Kennedy (CARL)
6 Adam Cerra (CARL)
4 George Hewett (CARL)
1 Sam Docherty (CARL)
1 Marc Pittonet (CARL)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/724536/coaches-votes-r1-big-guns-dominate-five-goal-debutant-rewarded
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The AFL website saying Carlton only got two goals from centre bounces to our one.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/724549/why-round-one-was-an-afl-6-6-6-special-and-goals-from-centre-clearances-rained
Not what it looked like :P.
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Jack on AFL360 talking about the loss.
- Looking at the game worm, we were 4 goals up twice in the game. We should have won.
- Really poor last quarter. Beaten by 15 in centre clearances. It's most frustrating when you get beaten by what you know you can be beaten by. We know Carlton are a fantastic contested ball side with a really good midfield in Cripps, Cerra, Hewett and with Sam Walsh to be added. We had to go with them in the middle of the ground and the contested ball especially in the centre of the ground. Disappointing loss.
- It's only round 1 and there's 21 round to go.
- Agree with Robbo that the lack of fight was disappointing.
Go to 9:00 min mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNYJl5Cllyc
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