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Title: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 09, 2024, 06:04:17 PM
AFL Round 14

RICHMOND vs Hawthorn


Saturday, 15th June @ the M.C.G.

Start time:  4:35 pm


Odds: (Sportsbet)
Richmond  $2.51
Hawthorn  $1.53

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6011
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Andyy on June 09, 2024, 07:49:59 PM
$2.51 worth a punt and I'm not punter.

Reckon the boys will get up for dusty.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 09, 2024, 08:10:39 PM
There's very few excuses for our members and supporters not to pack out the MCG on Saturday
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Diocletian on June 10, 2024, 12:05:59 AM
Need to redeem themselves after the disgraceful turnout for Cotch's 300th.... >:(
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Knighter on June 10, 2024, 12:35:38 AM
$2-50 v the Wees and Poos with Lunch back. Load up.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mat073 on June 10, 2024, 10:30:22 AM
I think we will give a good performance however the Hawks are one of the form teams at the moment. They have been brilliant for over a month.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 10, 2024, 11:40:56 AM
agree Matt,

a mate was telling me last night that the hawks are going to really make a big deal of dusty's 300th  to take our mind off the job.

lets hope it has the opposite effect.

NaNk may have a second string ruckman again, so lets hope he performs again




Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Diocletian on June 10, 2024, 12:53:59 PM
Dawks remind me of us in the old days when we'd have a good run all the way to 9th....got some very good players but no real out & out stars ...and this will be another year when they won't finish low enough to get a good draft hand.....will be interesting to see what they'll do during trade week , can totally see them overrating the list and trading picks for a bunch of b & c graders again.... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 10, 2024, 01:25:08 PM
100% agree.

What truly elite players do they have on their list? I’d say the only clear standout is Sicily who will be 30 at the start of next season.

Other than that they’ve got some good players like Day and Newcombe that can look very very good on their day, but imo that list has nowhere near enough elite talent to start contending in the next 2-3 seasons.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 11, 2024, 07:35:27 AM
Dawks remind me of us in the old days when we'd have a good run all the way to 9th....got some very good players but no real out & out stars ...and this will be another year when they won't finish low enough to get a good draft hand.....will be interesting to see what they'll do during trade week , can totally see them overrating the list and trading picks for a bunch of b & c graders again.... :shh

Chol being the barometer. Great when there’s nothing to lose and then goes missing in the big games
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: lamington on June 11, 2024, 09:54:59 PM
Their surge in form coincided with the return of will day. I personally highly rate him and with Day playing like he’s the next captain in waiting we are at a risk of getting rolled.

That being said if lynch lines up and is fit I actually think we comfortably win
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: jezza on June 12, 2024, 07:31:54 PM
Ticketing question - now the game is fully ticketed and it appears there are no general admin tickets available, if I wanted to sit with some friends that have general admin tickets, what is the best option? Can I get standing room and then still go into the general admin seating areas?
Only options showing up for me are level 1 wing, level 4, restricted view and standing room.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 12, 2024, 08:05:45 PM
Ticketing question - now the game is fully ticketed and it appears there are no general admin tickets available, if I wanted to sit with some friends that have general admin tickets, what is the best option? Can I get standing room and then still go into the general admin seating areas?
Only options showing up for me are level 1 wing, level 4, restricted view and standing room.

question best directed to the Membership Dept.

But as it is now ticketed then I doubt you will be able to go and sit in GA seating.

But as i said contact the Membership dept, I am sure they have got a better handle on this than the last 2 that were a shambles (ANZAC eve & Dreamtime)
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: jezza on June 12, 2024, 08:11:35 PM
Thanks WP, have shot them an email.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 12, 2024, 09:55:46 PM
Round 14 v Hawthorn Ticketing Information

Round 14 v Hawthorn (Dustin Martin's 300th match) is in HIGH demand. All members with general admission access will now have to upgrade their seat or redeem standing room for our Round 14 match v Hawthorn. Members with general admission access, including Roaming Tiger members, must upgrade to a reserved ticket by entering their barcode on the Ticketek website

What is a full ticketed match?

Fully ticketed matches are games that have the potential to reach full capacity.

The Club, the venue (MCG) and the AFL make the decision to fully ticket games to give our members the best possible experience at the biggest and most beloved matches of the year. By fully ticketing games, it means general admission members will have secured their seat in advance and do not risk being turned away at the gates.

By having every patron in an assigned seat, it also helps with the significant logistical issues that a crowd of over 70,000 people presents, such as smooth entry and exit. We want all members and supporters to have a great experience at these incredibly special matches, which is why this decision is made. Therefore, all members must secure their seat in advance by following the below processes (excluding those who already have a reserved seat included in their membership).

Simply follow the steps below to secure your seat.

GENERAL ADMISSION MEMBERS:

All general admission members must upgrade to a seat (paid) or redeem a $0 standing room ticket. You will NOT be able to scan in via your general admission membership on game day.

SECURE TICKETS: Click here (https://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM1424).

Further information and your barcode has already been sent via email, if you need help from our membership team please call (03) 9426 4400 or contact membership@richmondfc.com.au.

https://membership.richmondfc.com.au/member-faq/member-basics
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 14, 2024, 05:30:12 PM
Richmond v Hawthorn Preview

Lachlan Geleit
SEN
14 June 2024


This clash will be a huge celebration of one of the greatest Tigers of all time – Dustin Martin - who plays game 300.

And it’s come at a good time for the Tigers who have rallied to find some form after a disastrous start to the season, battling well in losses to Essendon and Geelong before knocking off the Crows in Adelaide.

The only thing though, is that Hawthorn has quickly become one of the most in-form sides in the competition, winning five of their last six. Their only loss in that patch came by one point to Port Adelaide, a game they should have won on all measures.

It won’t be easy for this Richmond side to stop the Hawthorn train, particularly in the middle as the Hawks have begun to motor in that area since the return of Will Day.

If the Tigers are to win, it won’t have to be just on the back of a defensive performance, given Tom Lynch is set to return to bring some forward line firepower alongside Martin and Shai Bolton.

While there’s no doubt the Tigers will be up for it to honour their legendary teammate, it’s simply too hard to pick against a Hawthorn side that’s in form… particularly against a side that’s still 17th on the ladder.

Tip: Hawthorn by 19 points.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/06/13/who-will-win-and-why-the-tips-and-predictions-for-afl-round-14-1/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2024, 02:13:18 AM
Tigers’ burning question: How significant will the Milestone Martin factor be?

You sense it’ll be massive. Dustin Martin — one of the greatest players of the century and arguably the best finals performer the game has ever seen — on Saturday will play his 300th game in what is sure to be a landmark day with a massive crowd. The Tigers are languishing near the bottom of the ladder, but such is Martin’s popularity and standing that the Tigers will have a big emotional, even spiritual, boost on Saturday. The key for Richmond will be restricting Hawthorn’s offence as they’ve kicked 85 points or more in five of their six wins this season (they kicked 8.10 (58) in their other win … against St Kilda). Should the Tigers be strong defensively, they can ride an emotional, Dusty-inspired wave to victory.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2024-the-blowtorch-round-14-preview-every-clubs-burning-question-analysis-fox-footy-commentators-tv-guide-fixture/news-story/b0dccb88f98afaa63d3424a948e75d59
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Simonator on June 15, 2024, 08:03:44 AM
They better give 100% for dusty today
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 15, 2024, 11:08:18 AM
anyone know if Punt Road will be buzzing after the vfl game and selling food and merch?

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 15, 2024, 11:44:48 AM
anyone know if Punt Road will be buzzing after the vfl game and selling food and merch?

Store is open rom 10am until the first bounce of the AFL game Frankie

Will re-open after the AFL finishes for a couple of hours
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 15, 2024, 03:42:03 PM
McAullife the sub again  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2024, 03:55:36 PM
Yep WP, it makes no sense especially with Prestia out and the Hawks being one of the top contested ball teams this year.

-----------------------

NO LATE CHANGES

SUBSTITUTES
Richmond: Kane McAuliffe
Hawthorn: Luke Breust

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1149941/finals-chasing-dogs-dockers-open-super-saturday-live-from-145pm-aest
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Knighter on June 15, 2024, 03:58:12 PM
McAullife the sub again  :banghead

Sack Yze the flog
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger_In_Sicily on June 15, 2024, 04:00:51 PM
McAullife the sub again  :banghead
Effing ridiculous..
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 15, 2024, 04:48:49 PM
Cumberland on scrimshaw is a terrible matchup. I don't know how many scrimshaw has had but he's just killing Cumbo at the minute.  :help
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 15, 2024, 05:10:14 PM
Cumberland on scrimshaw is a terrible matchup. I don't know how many scrimshaw has had but he's just killing Cumbo at the minute.  :help
With Cumberland being a forward, our coaches can’t really control that match up.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Knighter on June 15, 2024, 05:10:18 PM
Lynch held off the contest and 4 umps can’t see a thing. It’s BS
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mightytiges on June 15, 2024, 05:12:29 PM
Quarter time

Richmond   2.3-15
Hawthorn   4.3-27

Goals: Martin, Taranto


They are just smashing us in the centre (and why McAuliffe should have started) as well as feeding off us rebounding with ease out of F50. Our small forwards and half-forwards have been useless.

Freak goal by Taranto btw.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 15, 2024, 05:13:28 PM
Cumberland on scrimshaw is a terrible matchup. I don't know how many scrimshaw has had but he's just killing Cumbo at the minute.  :help
With Cumberland being a forward, our coaches can’t really control that match up.
Maybe the players should stop kicking it to him and focus kicking to leading forwards.
So lynch would have to lead sometimes.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Damo on June 15, 2024, 05:17:58 PM
Anybody thinking Dow is or will be a better player than Sonsie is in fantasy land
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Damo on June 15, 2024, 05:28:00 PM
Campbell in the lead up to the Bolton goal

WOW

The hands , the vision , the disposal

Can’t teach that
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 15, 2024, 05:29:29 PM
Cumberland again getting his pants pulled down.

I actually feel sorry for him now it's embarrassing.  :help :help
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Damo on June 15, 2024, 05:32:04 PM
Hawthorn players attack contests head first in the hope of a free kick
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 15, 2024, 05:36:16 PM
Their foot skills are tearing us to pieces. It’s just all too easy and predictable, we’re cooked.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: julzqld on June 15, 2024, 05:37:31 PM
Why is it so hard to get the ball into our forward 50 but so easy for the opposition to do so :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 15, 2024, 05:38:54 PM
How the stuff was that a free kick?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: julzqld on June 15, 2024, 05:42:03 PM
Bolton looks like he’s down on confidence
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: JP Tiger on June 15, 2024, 05:45:00 PM
Gees, they are a bunch of duckers these Hawks!  Every tackle gets shrugged up & they just expect a free for it ... 
The Ginnivan Football Club ...      :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mightytiges on June 15, 2024, 05:51:34 PM
Half-time

Richmond   2.3    4.5-29
Hawthorn   4.3    7.6-48

Goals: Martin, Taranto, Koschitzke, Bolton


Lucky to be 'only' 3 goals down. Playing like the VFL team earlier today. So many passengers ballwatching it's not funny.

You're not going to win games getting smashed 3-9 in centre clearances and mostly having to start attacks from D50 with no structure or connection in the forward half.
 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 15, 2024, 05:52:35 PM
Bunch of fake tough guys in that hawks forward line. Wanna get in players faces then duck and stage for free kicks at every opportunity.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mightytiges on June 15, 2024, 05:53:11 PM
Gees, they are a bunch of duckers these Hawks!  Every tackle gets shrugged up & they just expect a free for it ... 
The Ginnivan Football Club ...      :thumbsdown
They'll keep doing it as long as the blue muppet umpiring in their forward line keeps falling for it and paying them frees right in front of the sticks >:(.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mat073 on June 15, 2024, 05:53:15 PM
Hawthorn playing like a team that has won 5 of their past 6 ( and should have been 6) .

We are trying hard but their rebuild is well advanced of where we’re at.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 15, 2024, 05:55:34 PM
At the ground and their speed is extremely noticeable in contrast to how slow we look especially when the ball is in a congested situation they seem to get it out of clearance at breakneck speed compared to us.

Also they are killing us in the air but that's because our forward entries are ridiculously poor.

The hawks defenders have taken about 20 marks between them with scrimshaw absolutely killing it every single time and Cumberland can't seem to get a hand on it.

The hawks ball movement looks pretty good and they seem to have good skills by foot by that's also due to our lack of effort to pressure the ball carrier probably because we can't even catch them out of the stoppage and our tackle technique is atrocious.

Taranto is dominating possession but except for that goal he isn't really damaging the hawks with his possessions.

I don't think we are really working hard enough at the minute the players not working off the ball to pressure them as we would like to see.


We are still in it but we have a lot of work to do

Thanks Dusty.  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 15, 2024, 05:56:13 PM
Put Mcauliffe on. Everyone playing midfield not named Taranto is getting well beaten.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2024, 06:02:20 PM
Stats to HT:

Taranto  20 disposals
Rioli    14
Short  13
Dow    12
Bolton  11
Kmac  10
Baker   9
Dusty  8
Graham 8
Sonsie  8
Floss  8
Campbell 7
Hugo  6
Kosi  6
Miller 6
Balta 5
Broad 4
Brown 4
Mansell 4
Nank 4
Cumberland 2
Lynch 2

Going at just 35% efficiency inside 50  :thumbsdown.

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6011#player-stats
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 15, 2024, 06:03:34 PM
Sam Mitchell just said we're unlucky not to be in front :huh3.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Buddysucks on June 15, 2024, 06:08:58 PM
Struggling to cope with perceived pressure and our decision making and disposal is atrocious.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Buddysucks on June 15, 2024, 06:13:08 PM
What the hell was the free against us for in the goal square ???
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: julzqld on June 15, 2024, 06:20:42 PM
A lot of our players have no sense of awareness :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Buddysucks on June 15, 2024, 06:22:02 PM
Getting smashed in the midfield and around the ground…. Any thought of making a tactical substitution…. Cumberland 2 touches…Just sayin!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: julzqld on June 15, 2024, 06:25:50 PM
Too easy and a Richmond reject rubs salt into the wound
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 15, 2024, 06:28:36 PM
Our ball movement is atrocious  :help
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Buddysucks on June 15, 2024, 06:28:53 PM
Geez we’ve got some lazy and non-competitive players. Short is nothing but a ball watcher.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Andyy on June 15, 2024, 06:29:08 PM
Why haven't we got McAuliffe on yet?

Plenty of blokes having a dog night.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Buddysucks on June 15, 2024, 06:33:45 PM
Talk about a dirty afternoon for most. Not interested after the first 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger_In_Sicily on June 15, 2024, 06:34:50 PM
THIS HAS BEEN A TOTALLY DISGRACEFUL AND EMBARRASSING EFFORT..
McAuliffe still not in shows YZE is not up to it
Cumberland still playing, shows YZE must stand down.

Just all-round PATHETIC.
NEED A MIRACLE IN THE LAST QTR

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mightytiges on June 15, 2024, 06:36:41 PM
3/4 time

Richmond   2.3    4.5     5.8-38
Hawthorn   4.3    7.6    12.10-82

Goals: Martin, Taranto, Koschitzke, Bolton, Campbell


Smashed all over park. So much for stepping up for Dusty's milestone game. A pathetic meek 'effort'.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 15, 2024, 06:37:50 PM
Considering the significance of the game to have so many not fire shot tonight is disgraceful

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger_In_Sicily on June 15, 2024, 06:38:59 PM
Considering the significance of the game to have so many not fire shot tonight is disgraceful
Yep
Dusty after this teams effort tonight should hang up the boots. For them not to lift for him is unforgivable
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mightytiges on June 15, 2024, 06:41:31 PM
Cumberland subbed off and McAuliffe finally on. 3 quarters too late.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: georgies31 on June 15, 2024, 06:42:04 PM
14 senior players out there  :banghead how many performing and how many coasting around that's not on Yze. Brain fades mistakes everything. Not working hard enough hawks want it more.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Andyy on June 15, 2024, 06:48:31 PM
Dusty clearly injured.

I reckon right groin.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 15, 2024, 07:00:29 PM
Considering the significance of the game to have so many not fire shot tonight is disgraceful
Not fair, Mabior Chol did.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger_In_Sicily on June 15, 2024, 07:03:06 PM
SHORT easily best on ground. Another stratospheric performance by this champion
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Andyy on June 15, 2024, 07:11:25 PM
SHORT easily best on ground. Another stratospheric performance by this champion

92% DE honestly not bad.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Andyy on June 15, 2024, 07:16:06 PM
Out-coached

Outworked

Really disappointing.

Am expecting Dusty to miss games, looked lame in the second quarter onwards with a groin most likely, or hammy.

FMD why don't we play McAuliffe from the get go? I've seen enough of Dow, Graham, Sonsie (for now).

Bring Blight in, move Brown forward.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 15, 2024, 08:03:25 PM
Blow torch has to go on the senior players, especially the leaders (except for Taranto)

They were abysmal

**Lynch gets a free pass as it was clear as day he hadn't played for 10 weeks, way off the pace
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: skiddymcghee on June 15, 2024, 08:12:03 PM
THIS HAS BEEN A TOTALLY DISGRACEFUL AND EMBARRASSING EFFORT..
McAuliffe still not in shows YZE is not up to it
Cumberland still playing, shows YZE must stand down.

Just all-round PATHETIC.
NEED A MIRACLE IN THE LAST QTR

Imbecile....
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: georgies31 on June 15, 2024, 08:42:02 PM
No idea people blaming Yze laughable let me repeat 14 senior players out there with Sonie and Cumberland with them not performing. Lack of intensity,  intent just coasting around that's who the blow torch goes on.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Diocletian on June 15, 2024, 09:08:46 PM
Dow over KMac2....then waiting until the last to bring him in after been killed in the contest all day...... :facepalm
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 15, 2024, 09:14:31 PM
Dow over KMac2....then waiting until the last to bring him in after been killed in the contest all day...... :facepalm
Tend to agree, Dow has been given a solid set, maybe time to start KMac 3 on the field??
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: The Machine on June 15, 2024, 09:15:39 PM
Cumberland, what an absolute spud this bloke is. Not his fault he is on a list but he is absolutely hopeless. Runs around like a headless chook, has no awareness and can't read the play. For the love of god, never again :pray
I am not blaming his for the lose but we do play one short when he is on the ground. The way he is treated by the opposition is embarrassing- they know he has no idea :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger_In_Sicily on June 15, 2024, 09:38:16 PM
Cumberland, what an absolute spud this bloke is. Not his fault he is on a list but he is absolutely hopeless. Runs around like a headless chook, has no awareness and can't read the play. For the love of god, never again :pray
I am not blaming his for the lose but we do play one short when he is on the ground. The way he is treated by the opposition is embarrassing- they know he has no idea :shh
Oh how dare you say such things about the almighty slumberland.. you will now be ridiculed, name called, belittled.. just for stating the obvious..
How dare you have such opinions about this awesome elite football player lol
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: The Machine on June 15, 2024, 09:43:59 PM
Cumberland, what an absolute spud this bloke is. Not his fault he is on a list but he is absolutely hopeless. Runs around like a headless chook, has no awareness and can't read the play. For the love of god, never again :pray
I am not blaming his for the lose but we do play one short when he is on the ground. The way he is treated by the opposition is embarrassing- they know he has no idea :shh
Oh how dare you say such things about the almighty slumberland.. you will now be ridiculed, name called, belittled.. just for stating the obvious..
How dare you have such opinions about this awesome elite football player lol


 :snidegrin I’ve been dealing with this for years :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 15, 2024, 09:44:22 PM
Definitely was totally outmatched by Scrimshaw, the hawks defenders were having an easy day at the office with that match up Scrimshaw was just swallowing all the balls coming down there.
It was pretty obvious from about 5 minutes in.
 

Yze was pretty slow at making a move. Just let Scrimshaw do as he pleased.

We finally made some changes late but the game was already done and dusted.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 15, 2024, 10:06:30 PM
Our midfield looks slow and inept compared to the hawks.

Way off it at the minute. Just lack good mids and if anyone thinks Dow is any good just doesn't have any clue in my opinion.

Sonsie I don't think has it either. He doesn't even compete when he should but sits outside waiting and seems incapable of reading where the ball is going.

We don't have anyone who can tackle properly.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: pmac21 on June 15, 2024, 10:11:09 PM
Agree, tackling is sadly lacking. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 15, 2024, 10:18:16 PM
Yep, Cumberland had a shocker. He's his own worst enemy at times. Early in the first he stood there admonishing himself rather than chasing. I thought to myself you've just stuffed all your good work of the last month

As I sad he had a shocker but so did most of the team. Few others lucky tjet could have been subbed out

Personally I would have pulled the trigger alot earlier with the sub and subbed out Dow or Mansell
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 15, 2024, 10:30:30 PM
Yep, Cumberland had a shocker. He's his own worst enemy at times. Early in the first he stood there admonishing himself rather than chasing. I thought to ,yself you've just stuffed all your good work of the last month

As I sad he had a shocker but so did most of the team. Few others lucky tjet could have been subbed out

Personally I would have pulled the trigger alot earlier with the sub and subbed out Dow or Mansell
Agree, probably Dow for me, he certainly turned it over a bit poor fella
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Diocletian on June 15, 2024, 10:41:47 PM
Dow is the worst player I've ever seen get gifted so many games and that's even going back to the days when virtually our whole list was just a spud farm and we had no choice ....say what you like about Cumberland at least he 's actually done things in games at some point in his career...Dow has offered absolutely nothing from the get go and shows no real signs of ever doing so or even being close to it....he genuinely looks like an overawed first gamer in every match at best or a schoolboy playing against men...it's actually beyond embarrassing now.......:shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Andyy on June 15, 2024, 10:48:52 PM
Dow is the worst player I've ever seen get gifted so many games and that's even going back to the days when virtually our whole list was just a spud farm and we had no choice ....say what you like about Cumberland at least he 's actually done things in games at some point in his career...Dow has offered absolutely nothing from the get go and shows no real signs of ever doing so or even being close to it....he genuinely looks like an overawed first gamer in every match at best or a schoolboy playing against men...it's actually beyond embarrassing now.......:shh

Agreed.

Even when get gets 20 odd disposals he does absolutely no damage and there's no authority in his game.

If I was the oppo I'd let him take the ball.

McAuliffe shows way more potential to hurt teams.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 15, 2024, 11:04:05 PM
Dow is the worst player I've ever seen get gifted so many games and that's even going back to the days when virtually our whole list was just a spud farm and we had no choice ....say what you like about Cumberland at least he 's actually done things in games at some point in his career...Dow has offered absolutely nothing from the get go and shows no real signs of ever doing so or even being close to it....he genuinely looks like an overawed first gamer in every match at best or a schoolboy playing against men...it's actually beyond embarrassing now.......:shh

Agreed.

Even when get gets 20 odd disposals he does absolutely no damage and there's no authority in his game.

If I was the oppo I'd let him take the ball.

McAuliffe shows way more potential to hurt teams.

Yze has lost the stuffin plot. How that dud gets a gig before KMcA is embarrasing.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: The Machine on June 16, 2024, 08:53:42 AM
Yep, Cumberland had a shocker. He's his own worst enemy at times. Early in the first he stood there admonishing himself rather than chasing. I thought to myself you've just stuffed all your good work of the last month

As I sad he had a shocker but so did most of the team. Few others lucky tjet could have been subbed out

Personally I would have pulled the trigger alot earlier with the sub and subbed out Dow or Mansell


Cumberland should have been subbed out at half time.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2024, 10:07:57 AM
GRADING EVERY PLAYER AS HAWKS SPOIL THE PARTY IN DUSTY'S 300TH

By Seb Mottram & Hugh Fitzpatrick
SEN
15 June 2024


Here’s how we graded every player.

RICHMOND

Tim Taranto: A+

Just his second game back from a lengthy injury break, you wouldn’t know from the way he played. A clear game-high in contested footy.

Jayden Short: A

Led the Tigers for metres gained and used the footy beautifully off half-back.

Nick Vlastuin: A

Another Tigers defender who consistently found himself under pressure. Vlastuin handled himself with aplomb as he typically does.

Noah Balta: B+

Spent most of his game opposed to Jack Gunston and taught the Hawks veteran a lesson in physicality.

Dustin Martin: B

There’s no way in hell you can be critical of the champion in game 300 - even if it was one of his quieter outings. The sound of the MCG when he kicked the first goal of the game will be a memorable moment for those lucky enough to be in the presence of greatness and it was great to see the fans turn up for the king, all 92,311 of them!

Shai Bolton: B

It’s not hard to see why many believe he could be the best in the game. Another classic Bolton performance, with brilliance and disaster entwined to make a must-watch game.

Daniel Rioli: B

Plenty of silk distributing the footy off half-back.

Seth Campbell: B

Ben Miller: B

Jacob Koschitzke: B-

Nowhere near the full package just yet, but is starting to show signs he can make it at AFL level.

Nathan Broad: C+

Hugo Ralphsmith: C+

Starting to make a name for himself on the wing under Adem Yze. Makes a few mistakes but the energy and flair was there again on Saturday evening.

Tom Brown: C+

His right foot is quickly becoming one of the best in the competition. Now, Richmond just needs to get it into his hands more.

Kamdyn McIntosh: C

The ultra-consistent Tigers veteran played his role as that hard running defensive wingman. He finished the game with __ disposals and certainly wasn’t amongst Richmond’s worse.

Jack Graham: C

Albeit not your regular high possession getting midfielder, Graham was quiet for the Tigers today. At times Hawthorn’s younger midfielder made him look very slow out there and you get the feeling the body isn’t allowing Graham to play with complete freedom at the moment. His experience is priceless and crucial as this side goes through the rebuild phase.

Tyler Sonsie: C

To be fair to the 21-year-old, he played the grim role of a high forward in a team that got smashed and he managed to find a bit of it. Finished the game with 13 touches and 12 pressure acts.

Rhyan Mansell: C

Liam Baker: C-

Got involved in the midfield but wasn’t at his creative best. Only the three score invovlements.

Thomson Dow: D+

Is finding more of the footy in 2024 playing as a permanent inside midfielder, but too many clangers to be considered a positive impact.

Tom Lynch: D

Not much was expected in Lynch’s first game back from injury and not much was delivered.

Noah Cumberland: D

All the talent in the world, just can’t bring it to AFL level.

Kane McAuliffe: N/A

Came on in the final term as the sub.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/06/15/grading-every-player-as-hawks-spoil-the-party-in-dustys-300th/
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: georgies31 on June 16, 2024, 10:24:29 AM
Don't get fooled by Short game he was rubbish again.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 16, 2024, 10:30:49 AM
Jack Graham is the one who needs to be dropped.
He’s been around for a long time and his efforts seem to be getting worse. Looked disinterested at time.
Anyone under 23 or 50 games needs a long stretch of games - nothing ventured, nothing gained. We need to find out if they have what it takes to play regularly at senior level.
As an added bonus, it helps our draft position.
Game vs Kangaroos in a few weeks shaping up as an 8 pointer.
#topdraft pick #bigpicture
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Damo on June 16, 2024, 10:35:40 AM
Jack Graham is the one who needs to be dropped.
He’s been around for a long time and his efforts seem to be getting worse. Looked disinterested at time.
Anyone under 23 or 50 games needs a long stretch of games - nothing ventured, nothing gained. We need to find out if they have what it takes to play regularly at senior level.
As an added bonus, it helps our draft position.
Game vs Kangaroos in a few weeks shaping up as an 8 pointer.
#topdraft pick #bigpicture

You hashtag big picture and top draft pick

But want Graham dropped?????

I don’t understand what you’re actually after
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2024, 10:41:02 AM
Don't get fooled by Short game he was rubbish again.

I thought he was good from what I could see at the game, bar maybe a couple of bad clangers. 92% DE.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: mat073 on June 16, 2024, 12:50:41 PM
We all know a broken clock is correct twice a day , Cornes now claims Hawthorn is currently the second best team in the competition. I think this has some merit.

They have beaten Bulldogs , Brisbane , GWS - we all know what happened against Port . I think they play an exciting brand of football and hopefully we can aspire to be on a similar path in a couple of years .

It kills me to see Chol do so well , I always had high hopes for him.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Diocletian on June 16, 2024, 01:21:35 PM
Dawks are the only club to have won at least one flag in every (completed) decade since the 60's....still 5 and half seasons to go in this one so they're a fair chance to maintain that record.... :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 16, 2024, 01:44:34 PM
Don't get fooled by Short game he was rubbish again.

I thought he was good from what I could see at the game, bar maybe a couple of bad clangers. 92% DE.

Don't be fooled and seduced by his possession numbers and that 92% DE

I thought he was poor again. Just because he didn't consistently kick it straight to the opposition he simply adjusted and kicked long to contests that we never won. Or he went the short dinky kick. Didn't hurt the Hawks at all with his kicking

Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 16, 2024, 02:19:54 PM
Don't get fooled by Short game he was rubbish again.

I thought he was good from what I could see at the game, bar maybe a couple of bad clangers. 92% DE.

Don't be fooled and seduced by his possession numbers and that 92% DE

I thought he was poor again. Just because he didn't consistently kick it straight to the opposition he simply adjusted and kicked long to contests that we never won. Or he went the short dinky kick. Didn't hurt the Hawks at all with his kicking

While 100% true, can you name any of our players who didn’t do this? Sure there were a few dinky kicks but the play always ended up with a long kick down the line.

Short has been very poor this season and I’d like to see smith take his place, but it seems, and he does do it more than most granted, that he’s one of a few that gets criticised for doing it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: pmac21 on June 16, 2024, 08:47:49 PM
The Hawks seemed able to exit their def 50 with ease via the switch.  On the flip side we were forced long almost every time. 
Well drilled the Hawks, we were a shambles with not much of a game plan.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: one-eyed on June 18, 2024, 07:22:23 AM
Coaches' votes: (Yze and Mitchell)

Richmond v Hawthorn

10 James Sicily (HAW)
8 Jai Newcombe (HAW)
3 Joshua Weddle (HAW)
3 Mabior Chol (HAW)
3 Tim Taranto (RICH)
3 Jack Scrimshaw (HAW)

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1153821/coaches-votes-round-14-western-bulldogs-captain-marcus-bontempelli-surges-tagger-gets-10-votes
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: the claw on June 20, 2024, 01:28:22 PM
Don't get fooled by Short game he was rubbish again.

I thought he was good from what I could see at the game, bar maybe a couple of bad clangers. 92% DE.

Don't be fooled and seduced by his possession numbers and that 92% DE

I thought he was poor again. Just because he didn't consistently kick it straight to the opposition he simply adjusted and kicked long to contests that we never won. Or he went the short dinky kick. Didn't hurt the Hawks at all with his kicking

While 100% true, can you name any of our players who didn’t do this? Sure there were a few dinky kicks but the play always ended up with a long kick down the line.

Short has been very poor this season and I’d like to see smith take his place, but it seems, and he does do it more than most granted, that he’s one of a few that gets criticised for doing it.

The one and only reason he gets picked in the team, because he clearly does stuff all else. Is because he is supposed to be an elite kick and ball user.  Well he aint the one thing that gets him a game and he is using the ball shocking. hence he is being criticised quite rightly.
if he is not useing the ball well then he is a total liability and needs to go because he gives so little elsewhere.
Its actually not hard to bring in at worst a more rounded player like Smiffy or Trezise or god forbid a player almost as soft in Banks.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the M.C.G. --- Round 14, 2024
Post by: the claw on June 20, 2024, 01:34:19 PM
Don't get fooled by Short game he was rubbish again.

I thought he was good from what I could see at the game, bar maybe a couple of bad clangers. 92% DE.

Don't be fooled and seduced by his possession numbers and that 92% DE

I thought he was poor again. Just because he didn't consistently kick it straight to the opposition he simply adjusted and kicked long to contests that we never won. Or he went the short dinky kick. Didn't hurt the Hawks at all with his kicking

Always there for a kick in. Gets the ball usually looks left pretending to look for an option. usually ends up chipping the ball to the  right to the open short option, great for DE!!! then runs past for a handball recieve also great for stacking up the disposal count , is usually ignored because its dumb so he then runs to the boundary hopefully all by himself so he can get another easy kick. When it goes to him here which is way to often it mostly ends up a dump kick down the line that far too often comes back over his head.