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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 31, 2025, 11:30:10 PM
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The bloke, who spent all last year claiming Dusty would be playing for the Gold Coast, is now claiming Richmond is one of four Victorian clubs after Zak Butters.
"There are now four Victorian clubs who are aware that his head may be turned, not next year during free agency, but at the end of this season."
Sam McClure with some big news on contracted Port star Zak Butters.
VIDEO: https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1906651953813196996
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Four Victorian powerhouse clubs in race to sign under contract Port Adelaide superstar
Nic Negrepontis
Nine
March 31, 2025 - 9.40pm
Four Victorian powerhouse clubs will attempt to lure Port Adelaide superstar Zak Butters this year, despite being contracted for 2026.
The back-to-back Power best and fairest winner becomes a free agent at the end of 2026, and Footy Classified's Sam McClure says Essendon, Richmond, Hawthorn and Collingwood believe he is gettable this year.
"There are now four Victorian clubs who are aware that his head may be turned not next year during free agency, but at the end of this season," McClure told Nine's Footy Classified.
"Now there is a myriad of reasons why they think that the Bacchus Marsh boy may do that. One being that Port Adelaide might not be the powerhouse that Zak Butters was hoping they would be, particularly going into this year.
"The second crucial element of this is that Zak Butters is one of a select few at Port Adelaide who has developed an extremely close bond to Ken Hinkley.
"Hinkley is leaving at the end of the year. It's not to say he doesn't have a good relationship with Josh Carr, but those four clubs think that he might be on the chopping block as soon as this year."
McClure added that the Power may be more likely to let go of Butters this year, given the significant compensation they would receive via a trade, as opposed to free agency.
"(They may let him leave) If Port don't have the year that they were hoping for and all of a sudden you're getting offered high-end draft picks, particularly by the likes of Richmond and Essendon, both of whom have two first round picks in the upcoming draft," he said.
Butters has missed the start of the season after undergoing knee surgery and is expected to miss up to another month.
He has also previously been linked with the Western Bulldogs.
https://www.nine.com.au/sport/afl/news-2025-footy-classified-trade-zak-butters-port-adelaide-collingwood-richmond-hawthorn-essendon-20250331-p5lo21.html
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No thanks. List is nowhere near where it needs to be to have the luxiary of trading multiple first rounds picks. We should be using all our first round picks for the foreseeable future.
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No thanks. List is nowhere near where it needs to be to have the luxiary of trading multiple first rounds picks. We should be using all our first round picks for the foreseeable future.
100% agree
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I stopped reading after I saw Mc lovins name
Move on.
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Rowell on the other hand...
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
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Reid is the only player I would even consider giving up those picks for.....Butters fmd....good player but not two early first round picks good... :shh
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
Just depends on where your list sits. We are at rock bottom atm. Absolutely does not make sense to burn 2-3 real top end first rounders to trade a player in regardless of how good they are. For sides needed to take the next step then trading in talent is absolutely worth it. Freo and GC (although I’ll die on the hill that no half back is worth 2 first round picks) wont be complaining and neither were we with all our ins around the 2016-2020 years.
We should be hitting the draft hard over the next few years with all our first rounders and target free agents and players we can trade in with 2nd rounders and beyond imo.
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
Just depends on where your list sits. We are at rock bottom atm. Absolutely does not make sense to burn 2-3 real top end first rounders to trade a player in regardless of how good they are. For sides needed to take the next step then trading in talent is absolutely worth it. Freo and GC (although I’ll die on the hill that no half back is worth 2 first round picks) wont be complaining and neither were we with all our ins around the 2016-2020 years.
We should be hitting the draft hard over the next few years with all our first rounders and target free agents and players we can trade in with 2nd rounders and beyond imo.
Agree with a lot of that TK
Was more in response to what Mint said, which I thought was mostly nonsense.
We should be hitting drafts hard. One thing I will say is that I'd have no problem trading draft assets for players that fit the timeline, like Reid etc.
Zero point in trading for older players currently.
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Richmond will be one of the clubs monitoring Henry Hustwaite’s availability if his playing time situation doesn’t improve by seasons end.
The midfielder has been in electric form in the VFL and will find it hard for a seniors place in the midfield.
Richmond were big admirers of Hustwaite in his draft year but went in another direction
One to watch!
#GoTiges
https://x.com/CameronHicks__/status/1906912666045890922
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Just go to the draft again, let the others teams fight over players for now.
The time to bring in players will be 5 years time and via free agency, not trades.
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Richmond will be one of the clubs monitoring Henry Hustwaite’s availability if his playing time situation doesn’t improve by seasons end.
The midfielder has been in electric form in the VFL and will find it hard for a seniors place in the midfield.
Richmond were big admirers of Hustwaite in his draft year but went in another direction
One to watch!
#GoTiges
https://x.com/CameronHicks__/status/1906912666045890922
I really dont know why anyone pays any attention to what this blokes says... he spins a lot, repeats things that are posted on socials and then claims it as inside info and his own
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Pass on Henry and Rosas from GCS
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
Damo, I don’t want to get into a statistics fight over this
As Denuto said it’s a vibe thing, and it really doesn’t matter because those ex RFC guys will only get worse, plug it has happened and better to put a positive read on it than a glass half empty.
But respectfully take your comments on board
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10 AFL players on the fringes at their clubs… and why rivals could soon circle
Foxsports
3 April 2025
ALEX DAVIES (Gold Coast Suns)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pre-listed rookie, 2020
AFL games: 32
Contract status: Signed until 2026
NED MOYLE (Gold Coast Suns)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pick 5, 2021 mid-season draft
AFL games: 10
Contract status: Signed until 2028
JAKE RICCARDI (GWS GIANTS)
Age: 25
Drafted: Pick 51, 2019
AFL games: 69
Contract status: Signed until 2026
LEEK ALEER (GWS GIANTS)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pick 15, 2021
AFL games: 12
Contract status: Signed until 2025
LEWIS HAYES (Essendon)
Age: 20
Drafted: Pick 25, 2022
AFL games: 0
Contract status: Signed until 2026
HENRY HUSTWAITE (Hawthorn)
Age: 20
Drafted: Pick 37, 2022
AFL games: 6
Contract status: Signed until 2026
Jon Ralph says: “He’s a fascinating one. He’s in an interesting position there – 38 possessions (in the VFL against North Melbourne) and as we saw in the summer documentary: ‘Do you think I can play half-back, coach? Where can I play?’ The issue is not that he won’t get a chance at some stage, but James Worpel is out of the side and he’s still not in at the moment. It’s just that he’s probably that player who’s a bit slower – an inside mid who’s not a great spreader – and they’ve already got James Worpel, Cam Mackenzie is not an identical player but reasonably similar, Conor Nash is a bid-bodied inside mid, we know about Jai Newcombe. I think if he forecasts his next five years, I’m sure he’s thinking to himself: ‘I’m not sure I have that role in that team.’ And I don’t think he can play half-back. He’s contracted until next year, I’m sure he’d love to stay at that club, but I’m sure he’d have his head turned by some big offers with three and four-year deals at clubs who desperately need young inside midfielders of his potential.”
JEDD BUSSLINGER (Western Bulldogs)
Age: 21
Drafted: Pick 13, 2022.
AFL games: 0
Contract status: Signed until 2026
DEVON ROBERTSON (Brisbane Lions)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pick 22, 2019
AFL games: 43
Contract status: Signed until 2025
ED ALLAN (Collingwood)
Age: 20
Drafted: Pick 19, 2022
AFL games: 3
Contract status: Signed until 2026
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2025-midweek-tackle-nominated-10-fringe-players-possibly-up-for-grabs/news-story/b8ec2c063f49372ecddc3f1a20e395e9
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I'd take Riccardi while the boys develop
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I'd take Riccardi while the boys develop
Pass. It'd be Aaron Edwards & Brad Miller all over again. :shh
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We need midfield depth while the young guns get to 50 games.
Sam Berry is one who seems out of favour.
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"They'll be in the Harley Reid chase"
Cal Twomey on Richmond (via Gettable).
https://x.com/CalTwomey/status/1912296298503631290
https://x.com/aflratings/status/1912307249747488920
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"They'll be in the Harley Reid chase"
Cal Twomey on Richmond (via Gettable).
https://x.com/CalTwomey/status/1912296298503631290
https://x.com/aflratings/status/1912307249747488920
Tell him to re-sign at the eagles then we can go for him in FA. We need all our early picks to build our list out.
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I seriously don’t want Reid, his cost will be far too high. He isn’t gauranteed to be a good long term player either, atleast if we keep the picks which we get 2 or more likely 3 chances at getting it right
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I seriously don’t want Reid, his cost will be far too high. He isn’t gauranteed to be a good long term player either, atleast if we keep the picks which we get 2 or more likely 3 chances at getting it right
He's a good a guarantee of being a long term gun as we've seen from a kid in the last decade. His form this year is irrelevent, a mere blip. :shh
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
Grigg in 2017
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
Your correct FJ, TDK leaving wont impact us unless the blues finish below us.
Based only on sides I could realistically see finishing below us or the kangas (since we have their pick), in terms of free agents I think we only have to worry about Oscar Allen and Sam Draper potentially leaving as compos which could slide our picks.
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
Grigg in 2017
Touché
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Sorry FJ misread your post - thought you wanted us to get the Cassette. :shh
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
Grigg in 2017
Touché
We weren't winning no flags with Hampson
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Sorry FJ misread your post - thought you wanted us to get the Cassette. :shh
No all good
Don't want him or any ruck.. We need a second rounder if we have traded it out. Short has to go at the very least.
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Would anyone have a dip at Rowell?
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Would anyone have a dip at Rowell?
Not for me, he would cost too much and our new drafted mids would be left in the cold, IMVHO
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GUn but not really the point of difference we require. Need speed & footskills now. (Unless it's another Dusty/Lalor like Reid -who ain't slow, can play forward and is only a year older than our draftees.) :shh
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Would anyone have a dip at Rowell?
Reckon he's a gun
But no from me, I'm backing in our kids now and the ones we get this year.
So many greenshoots so far this season, just going to enjoy the ride
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I am not sure we need to go after a gun mid - if Hotten and Smillie end up as hits then we should have the weapons in there. If not, I would target this draft. We need a ruck to replace Nank and ideally a gun key forward in free agency. Lynch’s game on the weekend proved a mature key forward is absolutely critical to our forward 50 entries
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I am not sure we need to go after a gun mid - if Hotten and Smillie end up as hits then we should have the weapons in there. If not, I would target this draft. We need a ruck to replace Nank and ideally a gun key forward in free agency. Lynch’s game on the weekend proved a mature key forward is absolutely critical to our forward 50 entries
Definitely need pace. Hopefully Hotton or Alger can do that.
And I agree on the ruck situation although I'm worried drafting one now will leave us with a period after Nank's retirement where we won't have a decent mature one.
As for the key forward situation, I've seen lots from Faull and Armstrong to be happy about. I'm hoping that Lynch can go another year and maybe Lefau can just fill the big body role until they're ready. Chasing an established one will be difficult and expensive.
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Sorry Andy, I meant trade for a ruck and go for key position through fa. Gut says they went large of key position talent as they know it’s probably not worth another throw at the stumps this year (unless they go for that 200cm kid).
In 2-3 years, we’ll have a good line of sight on the 4 we picked up in this draft plus whether we will end up seeing the best of Gibcus.
So, draft for mids and pace, trade or FA for the proven key position talent and rucks
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Sorry Andy, I meant trade for a ruck and go for key position through fa. Gut says they went large of key position talent as they know it’s probably not worth another throw at the stumps this year (unless they go for that 200cm kid).
In 2-3 years, we’ll have a good line of sight on the 4 we picked up in this draft plus whether we will end up seeing the best of Gibcus.
So, draft for mids and pace, trade or FA for the proven key position talent and rucks
Yeah agree re: ruck.
Not against FA forwards but who are the options? You'd want someone with 5+ years available in them but I suppose we have the opportunity to front load a contract with our young lost and Lynch coming OOC.
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Realistically the only decent KPF FA this year is Allen and it looks like the pressure has gone to his head
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Reid is all we Neid. :shh
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Realistically the only decent KPF FA this year is Allen and it looks like the pressure has gone to his head
I’d be waiting a couple if years to see who’s available.
Jamara, Tilthorpe are the top picks from that draft but both most likely won’t be available.
Olly Lord might be a good option by 2028.
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Jamarra?
Makes Sydney Stack look like a good boy
No thanks ..
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Realistically the only decent KPF FA this year is Allen and it looks like the pressure has gone to his head
I’d be waiting a couple if years to see who’s available.
Jamara, Tilthorpe are the top picks from that draft but both most likely won’t be available.
Olly Lord might be a good option by 2028.
Hard no on JUH. He's clearly a tosser.
Thilthorpe no chance.
I said years ago we should go after Fogarty but he's realising his potential now and also will be off the table for sure.
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Jamarra?
Makes Sydney Stack look like a good boy
No thanks ..
:clapping :clapping
Reid is all we Neid. :shh
:lol :lol you're obsessed with Harley
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Forget about JUH. He won’t be playing AFL ever again
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It’s not my decision I know but I feel we will go to the draft again, Reid would cost us 3 first round picks and that just doesn’t stack up. A club who thinks their close to winning a flag will pay well over for him in a bidding earn, if he goes.
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Reid would be brilliant, but I would sell the farm for him. Maybe one of the first rounders and maybe a future 1st. But certainly not 3 and not our two picks from 1 draft.
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It’s not my decision I know but I feel we will go to the draft again, Reid would cost us 3 first round picks and that just doesn’t stack up. A club who thinks their close to winning a flag will pay well over for him in a bidding earn, if he goes.
Agree 100%
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I'd be keen on Reid if we can get it done for our two top-10 picks this year.
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I'd be keen on Reid if we can get it done for our two top-10 picks this year.
Not going to lie, I'd be interested too tbh.
He doesn't look happy other there. Suspect once he's back in Vic and settled he will take off.
How's this year's draft crop looking?
We might not be so lucky to get 2&3. We could end up finishing higher if there's FA compo or WCE get a priority pick. If WCE gets both they will have picks 1 + 2 + 3 and we'd have 4 + 5, and I reckon they'd look at their chances of taking the top 5 kids for their rebuild and say see ya HR.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrC2F2baQAEFvcH?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://x.com/gettable_afl/status/1923237257269428369
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I would be joining the dots on a Harley Reid play AND a free agency on a year or two later.
With Harley, maybe we get Butters a year later at free agency.
Having Lalor, Hotton and Harley join Taranto and Hopper in the midfield sounds a lot more appealing to a free agent.
That midfield surely wins 7-8 games and make our future look a hell of a lot brighter than a 3rd consecutive bottom 3 finish to a player like Butters
We then hit 2027 with a stacked midfield, hopefully a fully fit Gibcus partnering Balta and Trainor down back.
Tom Brown and potentially Seth Campbell on the wings and Armstrong, Faull and Sims up forward.
Presents well for a top 8 push that year.