One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 31, 2025, 11:30:10 PM
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The bloke, who spent all last year claiming Dusty would be playing for the Gold Coast, is now claiming Richmond is one of four Victorian clubs after Zak Butters.
"There are now four Victorian clubs who are aware that his head may be turned, not next year during free agency, but at the end of this season."
Sam McClure with some big news on contracted Port star Zak Butters.
VIDEO: https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1906651953813196996
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Four Victorian powerhouse clubs in race to sign under contract Port Adelaide superstar
Nic Negrepontis
Nine
March 31, 2025 - 9.40pm
Four Victorian powerhouse clubs will attempt to lure Port Adelaide superstar Zak Butters this year, despite being contracted for 2026.
The back-to-back Power best and fairest winner becomes a free agent at the end of 2026, and Footy Classified's Sam McClure says Essendon, Richmond, Hawthorn and Collingwood believe he is gettable this year.
"There are now four Victorian clubs who are aware that his head may be turned not next year during free agency, but at the end of this season," McClure told Nine's Footy Classified.
"Now there is a myriad of reasons why they think that the Bacchus Marsh boy may do that. One being that Port Adelaide might not be the powerhouse that Zak Butters was hoping they would be, particularly going into this year.
"The second crucial element of this is that Zak Butters is one of a select few at Port Adelaide who has developed an extremely close bond to Ken Hinkley.
"Hinkley is leaving at the end of the year. It's not to say he doesn't have a good relationship with Josh Carr, but those four clubs think that he might be on the chopping block as soon as this year."
McClure added that the Power may be more likely to let go of Butters this year, given the significant compensation they would receive via a trade, as opposed to free agency.
"(They may let him leave) If Port don't have the year that they were hoping for and all of a sudden you're getting offered high-end draft picks, particularly by the likes of Richmond and Essendon, both of whom have two first round picks in the upcoming draft," he said.
Butters has missed the start of the season after undergoing knee surgery and is expected to miss up to another month.
He has also previously been linked with the Western Bulldogs.
https://www.nine.com.au/sport/afl/news-2025-footy-classified-trade-zak-butters-port-adelaide-collingwood-richmond-hawthorn-essendon-20250331-p5lo21.html
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No thanks. List is nowhere near where it needs to be to have the luxiary of trading multiple first rounds picks. We should be using all our first round picks for the foreseeable future.
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No thanks. List is nowhere near where it needs to be to have the luxiary of trading multiple first rounds picks. We should be using all our first round picks for the foreseeable future.
100% agree
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I stopped reading after I saw Mc lovins name
Move on.
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Rowell on the other hand...
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
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Reid is the only player I would even consider giving up those picks for.....Butters fmd....good player but not two early first round picks good... :shh
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
Just depends on where your list sits. We are at rock bottom atm. Absolutely does not make sense to burn 2-3 real top end first rounders to trade a player in regardless of how good they are. For sides needed to take the next step then trading in talent is absolutely worth it. Freo and GC (although I’ll die on the hill that no half back is worth 2 first round picks) wont be complaining and neither were we with all our ins around the 2016-2020 years.
We should be hitting the draft hard over the next few years with all our first rounders and target free agents and players we can trade in with 2nd rounders and beyond imo.
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
Just depends on where your list sits. We are at rock bottom atm. Absolutely does not make sense to burn 2-3 real top end first rounders to trade a player in regardless of how good they are. For sides needed to take the next step then trading in talent is absolutely worth it. Freo and GC (although I’ll die on the hill that no half back is worth 2 first round picks) wont be complaining and neither were we with all our ins around the 2016-2020 years.
We should be hitting the draft hard over the next few years with all our first rounders and target free agents and players we can trade in with 2nd rounders and beyond imo.
Agree with a lot of that TK
Was more in response to what Mint said, which I thought was mostly nonsense.
We should be hitting drafts hard. One thing I will say is that I'd have no problem trading draft assets for players that fit the timeline, like Reid etc.
Zero point in trading for older players currently.
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Richmond will be one of the clubs monitoring Henry Hustwaite’s availability if his playing time situation doesn’t improve by seasons end.
The midfielder has been in electric form in the VFL and will find it hard for a seniors place in the midfield.
Richmond were big admirers of Hustwaite in his draft year but went in another direction
One to watch!
#GoTiges
https://x.com/CameronHicks__/status/1906912666045890922
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Just go to the draft again, let the others teams fight over players for now.
The time to bring in players will be 5 years time and via free agency, not trades.
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Richmond will be one of the clubs monitoring Henry Hustwaite’s availability if his playing time situation doesn’t improve by seasons end.
The midfielder has been in electric form in the VFL and will find it hard for a seniors place in the midfield.
Richmond were big admirers of Hustwaite in his draft year but went in another direction
One to watch!
#GoTiges
https://x.com/CameronHicks__/status/1906912666045890922
I really dont know why anyone pays any attention to what this blokes says... he spins a lot, repeats things that are posted on socials and then claims it as inside info and his own
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Pass on Henry and Rosas from GCS
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Trading older players, I thing WCE and FREO are seeing the folly in this with Graham and Bolton, Baker is going OK and Dan Rioli is struggling.
Personally while we will have a lot of pain to come I prefer our modus operandi.
Pity about Davidson as he is looking to be pretty handy.
Rioli struggling ??? Can’t be serious.
As for Bolton, he’s been injured and just getting rolling.
Give them more than 3 minutes before assessing.
As for the folly of trading for older players. Shame the Nank, Lynch, Prestia, Caddy etc experiment crashed and burned so badly. If only we won some flags to make it less of a folly. Oh, hang on.
Damo, I don’t want to get into a statistics fight over this
As Denuto said it’s a vibe thing, and it really doesn’t matter because those ex RFC guys will only get worse, plug it has happened and better to put a positive read on it than a glass half empty.
But respectfully take your comments on board
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10 AFL players on the fringes at their clubs… and why rivals could soon circle
Foxsports
3 April 2025
ALEX DAVIES (Gold Coast Suns)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pre-listed rookie, 2020
AFL games: 32
Contract status: Signed until 2026
NED MOYLE (Gold Coast Suns)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pick 5, 2021 mid-season draft
AFL games: 10
Contract status: Signed until 2028
JAKE RICCARDI (GWS GIANTS)
Age: 25
Drafted: Pick 51, 2019
AFL games: 69
Contract status: Signed until 2026
LEEK ALEER (GWS GIANTS)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pick 15, 2021
AFL games: 12
Contract status: Signed until 2025
LEWIS HAYES (Essendon)
Age: 20
Drafted: Pick 25, 2022
AFL games: 0
Contract status: Signed until 2026
HENRY HUSTWAITE (Hawthorn)
Age: 20
Drafted: Pick 37, 2022
AFL games: 6
Contract status: Signed until 2026
Jon Ralph says: “He’s a fascinating one. He’s in an interesting position there – 38 possessions (in the VFL against North Melbourne) and as we saw in the summer documentary: ‘Do you think I can play half-back, coach? Where can I play?’ The issue is not that he won’t get a chance at some stage, but James Worpel is out of the side and he’s still not in at the moment. It’s just that he’s probably that player who’s a bit slower – an inside mid who’s not a great spreader – and they’ve already got James Worpel, Cam Mackenzie is not an identical player but reasonably similar, Conor Nash is a bid-bodied inside mid, we know about Jai Newcombe. I think if he forecasts his next five years, I’m sure he’s thinking to himself: ‘I’m not sure I have that role in that team.’ And I don’t think he can play half-back. He’s contracted until next year, I’m sure he’d love to stay at that club, but I’m sure he’d have his head turned by some big offers with three and four-year deals at clubs who desperately need young inside midfielders of his potential.”
JEDD BUSSLINGER (Western Bulldogs)
Age: 21
Drafted: Pick 13, 2022.
AFL games: 0
Contract status: Signed until 2026
DEVON ROBERTSON (Brisbane Lions)
Age: 23
Drafted: Pick 22, 2019
AFL games: 43
Contract status: Signed until 2025
ED ALLAN (Collingwood)
Age: 20
Drafted: Pick 19, 2022
AFL games: 3
Contract status: Signed until 2026
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2025-midweek-tackle-nominated-10-fringe-players-possibly-up-for-grabs/news-story/b8ec2c063f49372ecddc3f1a20e395e9
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I'd take Riccardi while the boys develop
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I'd take Riccardi while the boys develop
Pass. It'd be Aaron Edwards & Brad Miller all over again. :shh
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We need midfield depth while the young guns get to 50 games.
Sam Berry is one who seems out of favour.
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"They'll be in the Harley Reid chase"
Cal Twomey on Richmond (via Gettable).
https://x.com/CalTwomey/status/1912296298503631290
https://x.com/aflratings/status/1912307249747488920
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"They'll be in the Harley Reid chase"
Cal Twomey on Richmond (via Gettable).
https://x.com/CalTwomey/status/1912296298503631290
https://x.com/aflratings/status/1912307249747488920
Tell him to re-sign at the eagles then we can go for him in FA. We need all our early picks to build our list out.
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I seriously don’t want Reid, his cost will be far too high. He isn’t gauranteed to be a good long term player either, atleast if we keep the picks which we get 2 or more likely 3 chances at getting it right
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I seriously don’t want Reid, his cost will be far too high. He isn’t gauranteed to be a good long term player either, atleast if we keep the picks which we get 2 or more likely 3 chances at getting it right
He's a good a guarantee of being a long term gun as we've seen from a kid in the last decade. His form this year is irrelevent, a mere blip. :shh
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
Grigg in 2017
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
Your correct FJ, TDK leaving wont impact us unless the blues finish below us.
Based only on sides I could realistically see finishing below us or the kangas (since we have their pick), in terms of free agents I think we only have to worry about Oscar Allen and Sam Draper potentially leaving as compos which could slide our picks.
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
Grigg in 2017
Touché
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Sorry FJ misread your post - thought you wanted us to get the Cassette. :shh
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Guys if TDK leaves blues what's the best draft pick they will receive? I think the formula is draft pick after their one, though they may change it to suit themselves Z
I feel our second pick this year may not be until the mid 20's once all things are considered. We need to find another first rounder.
We don't have a second rounder this year. Traded it to Freo.
Either way we shouldn't be giving up high picks for a ruck, most overrated position in the game. Gawn the last ruck to be the difference in a flag - before that who? Simon Madden? :shh
Grigg in 2017
Touché
We weren't winning no flags with Hampson
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Sorry FJ misread your post - thought you wanted us to get the Cassette. :shh
No all good
Don't want him or any ruck.. We need a second rounder if we have traded it out. Short has to go at the very least.
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Would anyone have a dip at Rowell?
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Would anyone have a dip at Rowell?
Not for me, he would cost too much and our new drafted mids would be left in the cold, IMVHO
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GUn but not really the point of difference we require. Need speed & footskills now. (Unless it's another Dusty/Lalor like Reid -who ain't slow, can play forward and is only a year older than our draftees.) :shh
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Would anyone have a dip at Rowell?
Reckon he's a gun
But no from me, I'm backing in our kids now and the ones we get this year.
So many greenshoots so far this season, just going to enjoy the ride
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I am not sure we need to go after a gun mid - if Hotten and Smillie end up as hits then we should have the weapons in there. If not, I would target this draft. We need a ruck to replace Nank and ideally a gun key forward in free agency. Lynch’s game on the weekend proved a mature key forward is absolutely critical to our forward 50 entries
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I am not sure we need to go after a gun mid - if Hotten and Smillie end up as hits then we should have the weapons in there. If not, I would target this draft. We need a ruck to replace Nank and ideally a gun key forward in free agency. Lynch’s game on the weekend proved a mature key forward is absolutely critical to our forward 50 entries
Definitely need pace. Hopefully Hotton or Alger can do that.
And I agree on the ruck situation although I'm worried drafting one now will leave us with a period after Nank's retirement where we won't have a decent mature one.
As for the key forward situation, I've seen lots from Faull and Armstrong to be happy about. I'm hoping that Lynch can go another year and maybe Lefau can just fill the big body role until they're ready. Chasing an established one will be difficult and expensive.
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Sorry Andy, I meant trade for a ruck and go for key position through fa. Gut says they went large of key position talent as they know it’s probably not worth another throw at the stumps this year (unless they go for that 200cm kid).
In 2-3 years, we’ll have a good line of sight on the 4 we picked up in this draft plus whether we will end up seeing the best of Gibcus.
So, draft for mids and pace, trade or FA for the proven key position talent and rucks
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Sorry Andy, I meant trade for a ruck and go for key position through fa. Gut says they went large of key position talent as they know it’s probably not worth another throw at the stumps this year (unless they go for that 200cm kid).
In 2-3 years, we’ll have a good line of sight on the 4 we picked up in this draft plus whether we will end up seeing the best of Gibcus.
So, draft for mids and pace, trade or FA for the proven key position talent and rucks
Yeah agree re: ruck.
Not against FA forwards but who are the options? You'd want someone with 5+ years available in them but I suppose we have the opportunity to front load a contract with our young lost and Lynch coming OOC.
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Realistically the only decent KPF FA this year is Allen and it looks like the pressure has gone to his head
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Reid is all we Neid. :shh
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Realistically the only decent KPF FA this year is Allen and it looks like the pressure has gone to his head
I’d be waiting a couple if years to see who’s available.
Jamara, Tilthorpe are the top picks from that draft but both most likely won’t be available.
Olly Lord might be a good option by 2028.
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Jamarra?
Makes Sydney Stack look like a good boy
No thanks ..
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Realistically the only decent KPF FA this year is Allen and it looks like the pressure has gone to his head
I’d be waiting a couple if years to see who’s available.
Jamara, Tilthorpe are the top picks from that draft but both most likely won’t be available.
Olly Lord might be a good option by 2028.
Hard no on JUH. He's clearly a tosser.
Thilthorpe no chance.
I said years ago we should go after Fogarty but he's realising his potential now and also will be off the table for sure.
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Jamarra?
Makes Sydney Stack look like a good boy
No thanks ..
:clapping :clapping
Reid is all we Neid. :shh
:lol :lol you're obsessed with Harley
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Forget about JUH. He won’t be playing AFL ever again
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It’s not my decision I know but I feel we will go to the draft again, Reid would cost us 3 first round picks and that just doesn’t stack up. A club who thinks their close to winning a flag will pay well over for him in a bidding earn, if he goes.
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Reid would be brilliant, but I would sell the farm for him. Maybe one of the first rounders and maybe a future 1st. But certainly not 3 and not our two picks from 1 draft.
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It’s not my decision I know but I feel we will go to the draft again, Reid would cost us 3 first round picks and that just doesn’t stack up. A club who thinks their close to winning a flag will pay well over for him in a bidding earn, if he goes.
Agree 100%
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I'd be keen on Reid if we can get it done for our two top-10 picks this year.
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I'd be keen on Reid if we can get it done for our two top-10 picks this year.
Not going to lie, I'd be interested too tbh.
He doesn't look happy other there. Suspect once he's back in Vic and settled he will take off.
How's this year's draft crop looking?
We might not be so lucky to get 2&3. We could end up finishing higher if there's FA compo or WCE get a priority pick. If WCE gets both they will have picks 1 + 2 + 3 and we'd have 4 + 5, and I reckon they'd look at their chances of taking the top 5 kids for their rebuild and say see ya HR.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrC2F2baQAEFvcH?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://x.com/gettable_afl/status/1923237257269428369
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I would be joining the dots on a Harley Reid play AND a free agency on a year or two later.
With Harley, maybe we get Butters a year later at free agency.
Having Lalor, Hotton and Harley join Taranto and Hopper in the midfield sounds a lot more appealing to a free agent.
That midfield surely wins 7-8 games and make our future look a hell of a lot brighter than a 3rd consecutive bottom 3 finish to a player like Butters
We then hit 2027 with a stacked midfield, hopefully a fully fit Gibcus partnering Balta and Trainor down back.
Tom Brown and potentially Seth Campbell on the wings and Armstrong, Faull and Sims up forward.
Presents well for a top 8 push that year.
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Elijah Tsatas (Essendon)
Jon Ralph says: ‘When he does get in (to the Bombers’ AFL team), he plays as a flanker. He played against Adelaide and had those seven clearances. He looked electric, he looked so fantastic. My message to you, Elijah Tsatas: Find a way out of that football club. You need to find somewhere that values you.’ I understand they did a lot of work with him through David Rath on his kicking efficiency. He might not be an amazing kick, but he’s a clearance beast. Now Sam Durham is about to come back into that side, Will Setterfield – who’s only 27 – is playing great football and maybe does things off the ball that’s better than Elijah Tsatas. But he’s a Pick 5, he absolutely has talent and you’ve got to find a club – wherever that is, whether that’s North Melbourne or Richmond – that would say: ‘We value you and we’ll give you some elite centre square opportunities.’”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2025-midweek-tackle-tackle-the-headline-looks-at-14-fringe-players-who-could-be-in-rivals-sights-elijah-tsatas-jedd-busslinger/news-story/ec17263f63885edc7a7f4d1ee70ed074
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No thanks.
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He tears it up in the VFL but doesn't seem to get on the park enough?
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Pretty sure they've done one of these not so long ago but here's their latest offering.
Five trade targets for EVERY AFL team: Richmond Tigers
Having opted for list regeneration, what are some young acquisitions the Tigers can make for a limited cost?
Harrison McIlwaine
zerohanger.com
July 9, 2025
With the most successful era in the club's history rapidly shrinking in the rearview mirror, those at Tigerland must turn their attention to architecting their next flag tilt.
This process began with an historic draft haul in 2024, and Richmond boast another two selections at the pointy end of the 2025 draft.
With a young core proving far more competitive than most predicted, and a coach stamping an identifiable game style on his impressionable group, there is reason for excitement at the club.
Who are some potential trade targets the Tigers can feasibly acquire without sacrificing their strong draft hand? We take a look...
1. Elijah Tsatas
Essendon's top five draft pick from 2022 has amassed less than 30 disposals only once at VFL level this season, but knocks on his ball use continue to plague the Oakleigh Chargers product.
Finding the football has proven no issue at the top level either, with 25 disposals and 11 clearances from just 63% game time against Adelaide in Round 3 supporting this. The upside with the 187cm midfielder is glaring.
Contracted until the end of 2026, the Tigers could conceivably pinch Tsatas from under Essendon's nose for a meagre return at the trade table. If they can improve his disposal, it presents as a low-risk, high-reward acquisition for a Tigers side rather obviously prioritising youth under second-year coach Adem Yze.
It also doesn't hurt that Tsatas grew up as a Richmond supporter.
2. Campbell Chesser
The Sandringham Dragons product is yet to feature at AFL level for the West Coast Eagles this season, after 32 appearances across 2023 and 2024, in what is a contract year.
Last season particularly, Chesser treated long-suffering Eagles fans to glimpses of the line-breaking athleticism that characterised his draft profile, but issues pertaining to his body have dogged the 22-year-old in his career's early sledding, with ankle surgery delaying the commencement of his 2025 campaign.
In his last WAFL outing, a 30-point victory over Subiaco, Chesser amassed 24 disposals and had five inside 50s, showcasing his ball-winning ability. This, coupled with a motor that saw him handed significant opportunity on a wing at AFL level last season, earmark him as another cheap potential acquisition to the Tigers' engine room.
3. Angus Sheldrick
AFL.com'sh Gabelich recently reported that the Sydney Swans have tabled an offer to keep 'Gus' Sheldrick in the Harbour City for another two years, having seemingly carved out a place for himself in Dean Cox's 23.
Amidst contract talks, the Claremont native has drawn significant interest from the Tigers, and fellow cellar-dwellers West Coast. The hard nut is a much-loved member of the Bloods' young core, and the ball-winning midfielder appears likely to sign with the Swans, but his services would be welcomed at Punt Road, especially for the relatively low asking price he would likely command.
Since being freed of the shackles of substitution in Round 16, Sheldrick has averaged just under 20 disposals and four clearances a game, despite failing to register more than 74% game time in each contest in that period.
His strength is feeding handballs to Sydney's suite of outside runners, and his disposal by foot can be patchy, but for his ball-winning alone, it would be remiss of Blair Hartley and co. to not have a throw at the stumps.
4. Sam Flanders
The versatile Suns utility has the longest tenure remaining at his current club of any player on this list, but the Gippsland native would also represent the largest coup of any of these potential acquisitions.
Contracted until the end of 2027, Flanders has excelled in a myriad of roles since his 2020 debut, most notably, in a distributing role off half-back, in 2024.
The 446 metres gained per game he registered last year would go some way to filling the void created by the departure of Flanders' current teammate Dan Rioli, from Tigerland, at the end of last season.
His clean ball use also presents a point of difference to other potential targets on this list, registering no seasons below 70% disposal efficiency since his rookie year.
5. Xavier O'Halloran
Playing a blend of midfield and high half-forward, Xavier O'Halloran has made a name for himself at AFL level.
Selected late in the first round of the 2018 National Draft, O'Halloran averages three score involvements a game across his 82-game career, in an often thankless position.
In 2025, the St Bernard's junior is averaging career highs in disposals and metres gained per game in a contract year. If the Tigers can turn his head, he presents as another cheap acquisition, and at just 24, with his prime approaching, O'Halloran could anchor their midfield mix for the next decade.
https://www.zerohanger.com/five-trade-targets-for-every-afl-team-richmond-tigers-2-164963/5/
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Do they want us to get even worse? :rollin
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Richmond coach Adem Yze says the Tigers aren’t in the market for West Coast’s Harley Reid despite draft hand
Paywall: https://thewest.com.au/sport/richmond-tigers/richmond-coach-adem-yze-says-the-tigers-arent-in-the-market-for-west-coasts-harley-reid-despite-draft-hand-c-19401184
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Charlie Curnow wanting out
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
:cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
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Charlie Curnow wanting out
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
:cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
Source?
Wouldn't go there myself. Worried about knee.
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Charlie Curnow wanting out
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
:cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
Source?
Wouldn't go there myself. Worried about knee.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-2025-charlie-curnow-wants-to-play-for-gold-coast-suns-carlton-refuse-to-put-him-up-for-trade-contracted-until-end-of-2029-key-forwards-latest-news/news-story/20aaa290a5e5c9374a1d6fabcb41feb4
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TIGERS LEAD CHASE FOR SUNS FORWARD
– Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
30 July 2025
Richmond is leading a growing number of clubs interested in pursuing out-of-contract Gold Coast small forward Malcolm Rosas jnr.
Rosas jnr has struggled for regular games under Damien Hardwick, playing just three times in 2025.
The Tigers are keen to lure the 24-year-old to Punt Road to join their dynamic mix of small forwards that includes Seth Campbell, Maurice Rioli jnr and Steely Green.
Sydney also has interest in Rosas jnr, who has had a strong back half to his VFL season for the Suns, which has included small stints in the middle of the ground.
Drafted from Gold Coast's Academy at the end of 2019, through its Darwin zone, Rosas jnr has kicked 46 goals from his 48 career games.
The left-footer was told he could explore his options at the end of last season, with Brisbane taking a glance, before he returned to Carrara for a sixth season.
Hardwick has not settled on a regular small forward this year, with draftee Leo Lombard, Rosas jnr, Connor Budarick and Nick Holman all given opportunities.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2025/07/24/508500aa-5db1-4f95-9686-08aa4a4c567c/4oDxu7D3.jpg?width=1064&height=600)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1376728/inside-trading-tigers-in-hunt-for-sun-pies-offer-swans-look-to-lock-in-duo
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Another small fwd that barely touches the ball and minimal impact? If we get him may as well trade mansell, don’t need a clone
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Everyone gets so excited we're linked to any player.
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Another small fwd that barely touches the ball and minimal impact? If we get him may as well trade mansell, don’t need a clone
Are there many small forwards who get a lot of the footy? The position in it of itself does not call for high volume of touches. Exception would be the mid/fwd hybrid who share time btw those 2 lines.
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Everyone gets so excited we're linked to any player.
I’ll get excited when we are linked to a ruckman.
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I’ll get excited when we get linked to a proper footballer
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Another small fwd that barely touches the ball and minimal impact? If we get him may as well trade mansell, don’t need a clone
Are there many small forwards who get a lot of the footy? The position in it of itself does not call for high volume of touches. Exception would be the mid/fwd hybrid who share time btw those 2 lines.
Well as I eluded to in my post, if you don’t get a lot of footy you want to have a lot of impact atleast.
Pretty much all the best small fwds are like that and have been traditionally like that.
Rosas carer avg 0.3 goals a game.. guys can turn it around and it’s not all about stats, but that’s pretty bleak
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Another small fwd that barely touches the ball and minimal impact? If we get him may as well trade mansell, don’t need a clone
Are there many small forwards who get a lot of the footy? The position in it of itself does not call for high volume of touches. Exception would be the mid/fwd hybrid who share time btw those 2 lines.
Well as I eluded to in my post, if you don’t get a lot of footy you want to have a lot of impact atleast.
Pretty much all the best small fwds are like that and have been traditionally like that.
Rosas carer avg 0.3 goals a game.. guys can turn it around and it’s not all about stats, but that’s pretty bleak
Yeah I get that. Thought you were just going off possession numbers and was just trying to point out that I dont think any player in that position is a high volume possession winner.
If Rosas walked past me on the street I wouldn’t know who he was and to be honest while we can definantly upgrade some of our players in that position, I wouldn’t be wasting any picks or list spots (especially as we are maxed out already) on it at this stage of the rebuild.
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Over his career he's a goal/game player in a poor side.
Still not impressed though. Would need to be effectively a free acquisition for me to bother. No draft capital.
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An example of a player who can’t get a game at his current club but is expected to be a star at our club. A likely list clogger imho . I would rather we go to the draft and develop our own unless they are A or B graders getting a game at their current club and we get them at a fair price.
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Yeah obviously. That's how trades work is it not?
For a top20 pick I could drive him to gc or Brisbane
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.
If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.
If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision
He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.
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I wouldn't trade Vlastuin unless he asked for it and there was a top 10 pick on offer.
Would rather he just retired
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.
If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision
He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.
Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
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I wouldn't trade Vlastuin unless he asked for it and there was a top 10 pick on offer.
Would rather he just retired
Did hodge going to Brisbane hurt his legacy ? No
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.
If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision
He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.
Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
Ask North if it's rubbish, they're desperately trying to get experienced players.
We'd be stupid to trade the best one on one defender in the game.
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Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.
Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).
I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.
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Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.
Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).
I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.
Like I said. Who were the old leaders in the 17 flag? And the years before. The tigers had very few mature players bar a couple like maric and Newman. The leadership was developed from within the young core; cotchin, Vlastuin etc.
That resulted in a young list and winning three times and only finished when it was mishandled at the end.
Vlastuin at 32 is a champion but he is stopping the development of a young player and the back 6 is too old with broad. Short. Floss.
It's be very short sighted to reject a proper top20 selection for him.
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.
If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision
He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.
Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
Ask North if it's rubbish, they're desperately trying to get experienced players.
We'd be stupid to trade the best one on one defender in the game.
So your only example is one bad team that'll likely be better next season?
Why not comment on the top8 teams with young lists
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You need a spell AJ. Some horrendous takes from you
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You need a spell AJ. Some horrendous takes from you
Apart from, not being bent on keeping a 32 year old...at all costs. In year 1 of a rebuild...
Where the club is going 'well' (3rd last trending downwards ) , due to the mature players carrying the club in the middle (nank, prestia, tt, hop, McIntosh ) and back (Vlastuin, broad, short) along with Lynch being the only focal point in the first half of the year.
And the list having massive holes in the mid-age sections that'll come to bite sooner rather than later (24-28)
Which other takes got your panties in a twist?
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The hun discussing trading Vlastuin.
I am among his biggest fans but for a first rounder you'd have to do it for a 32 year old.
For a first rounder. This stage of the rebuild.
does Nick get a say in the matter?
If he was chasing another flag he'd have left with the other lot last year.
Not trading Vlas. Would take more than a single first rounder to make me reconsider that even at his age especially in this upcoming draft and then the next drafts all being compromised by Tassie.
If he's not playing in the next grand final you should make a business decision
He is worth more to us providing some experience and helping mentor and drive culture for the next generation then a single 1st rounder especially when it would be a late first rounder at best in a weak draft this year and a compromised draft next year.
Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
Ask North if it's rubbish, they're desperately trying to get experienced players.
We'd be stupid to trade the best one on one defender in the game.
So your only example is one bad team that'll likely be better next season?
Why not comment on the top8 teams with young lists
Well they’d better hope they’re better next season given them finished last or second last for the past 7 seasons.
We’ve been down the bottom for 2 seasons now. Getting a pick in the 20s for vlas is not going to accelerate that and make us worse in the short term.
Don’t compare us currently to that list rebuild that led to the dynasty. Within that rebuild we drafted some generational talents and all time greats of the club. Will see in 5 years time if our current crop can even touch the heights of that team.
And come off it. Vlas is not stopping the development of any young player. Who is he currently keeping out of the side that deserves to come in, unless you think Blight is that player….. Gibcus has just started returning from injury and once he’s ready to go I’m sure he will be straight back in. Broad will retire at the end of next season, he has already stated that which will open up another defensive spot if we chose to draft anymore defenders.
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Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.
Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).
I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.
Like I said. Who were the old leaders in the 17 flag? And the years before. The tigers had very few mature players bar a couple like maric and Newman. The leadership was developed from within the young core; cotchin, Vlastuin etc.
That resulted in a young list and winning three times and only finished when it was mishandled at the end.
Vlastuin at 32 is a champion but he is stopping the development of a young player and the back 6 is too old with broad. Short. Floss.
It's be very short sighted to reject a proper top20 selection for him.
You didn't answer my question.
What's your own question specifically? Do you want to know who our experienced leaders were prior to the dynasty/development of our 4 key players?
The 2020 list was actually very mature and I'm somewhat in agreement with the theory that the shorter games in 2020 suited that aspect of our list to be honest.
Vlastuin IMHO is not stopping anyone's development. Nor is Broad. Who should be taking their spots this year? Short might be, yes, I said I'm agreeable to trade him.
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Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.
On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.
This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.
Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.
Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.
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Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.
On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.
This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.
Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.
Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.
Maric played 0 games and 3 the previous season.
Rance was 27 on grand final day.
Maric was a good leader but that's the point there were very few in the lead up to the first flag.
Your argument for leadership and culture is Aaron Edwards and Troy Chaplin? Oh boy. Including deledio is rather funny. We have certainly revised history and the narrative from 2016/2017 to today.
The incoming expansion teams is more reasons to invest in young assets now not be nostalgic to a 32 year old. Not less.
It's very debatable if Vlastuin is fast tracking our rebuild. He will be very hard to replace whenever it happens.
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Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.
Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.
Look at how young the list.
If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that
Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.
Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).
I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.
Like I said. Who were the old leaders in the 17 flag? And the years before. The tigers had very few mature players bar a couple like maric and Newman. The leadership was developed from within the young core; cotchin, Vlastuin etc.
That resulted in a young list and winning three times and only finished when it was mishandled at the end.
Vlastuin at 32 is a champion but he is stopping the development of a young player and the back 6 is too old with broad. Short. Floss.
It's be very short sighted to reject a proper top20 selection for him.
You didn't answer my question.
What's your own question specifically? Do you want to know who our experienced leaders were prior to the dynasty/development of our 4 key players?
The 2020 list was actually very mature and I'm somewhat in agreement with the theory that the shorter games in 2020 suited that aspect of our list to be honest.
Vlastuin IMHO is not stopping anyone's development. Nor is Broad. Who should be taking their spots this year? Short might be, yes, I said I'm agreeable to trade him.
I didn't answer your question because it was dumb. I know who the mature players and leaders were in 2017 and say the ten years leading up to it were.
No one wants short. He has no value.
Broad is keeping out blight. Gray. And now gibcus. So your comment is completely untrue. Also forcing Trainor to play out of his natural position.
Btw we are discussing who Vlastuin will keep out next season - with a new batch of kids and hopefully a better injury run.
2020 is irrelevant.
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So who is he keeping out you say….. blight, gray and Gibcus…..
Gibcus has at no point been fit enough to play a game this season, when he is, like I said I’d imagine he is straight in.
Blight is not a like for like replacement for Vlas. He would not come in even if Vlas got injured. Same albeit to a lesser extent with Gray (who has been injured most of the season). They are key position defenders. The players that are keeping them out are Miller, Young and Balta. And stuff me, even if they were, we really talking about trading Vlas so we can prioritise playing a couple of mid season rookie list players……?
We have 2 picks in this years draft and neither of which will be used on a kpd so that is unlikely to change next season and by the end of that broad will retire which will open a spot for anyone who is good enough to come in.
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We did our trading last year. Lots can go wrong but this year’s crop of draftee’s is the best I have ever seen at the club. The overall draft is already throwing up the potential to be one of the best ever. The on field leadership will accelerate their development. Period. You either buy into it or you don’t. The last half dozen flag winning teams ARE older. Much older. The game has well and truly moved on since 2017.
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Anyone who thinks that Vlastuin is stopping development at our club needs to think of Melbourne’s rebuild under Mark Neeld.
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Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.
On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.
This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.
Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.
Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.
:clapping :clapping
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Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.
On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.
This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.
Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.
Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.
Maric played 0 games and 3 the previous season.
Rance was 27 on grand final day.
Maric was a good leader but that's the point there were very few in the lead up to the first flag.
Your argument for leadership and culture is Aaron Edwards and Troy Chaplin? Oh boy. Including deledio is rather funny. We have certainly revised history and the narrative from 2016/2017 to today.
The incoming expansion teams is more reasons to invest in young assets now not be nostalgic to a 32 year old. Not less.
It's very debatable if Vlastuin is fast tracking our rebuild. He will be very hard to replace whenever it happens.
You mentioned leaders but you also said we had very little mature players and I pointed them out.
Vlas is more valuable now than ever.
I would not only retain him but offer him a further 2 year contract.
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Rosas auditioned for us in the VFL game. Kicked 4 goals.
17 disposals (10k, 7h, 6c, 11u, 70.6% eff.)
7 marks
1 tackle
1 clearance
4 inside 50s
3 intercepts
6 score involvements
4 goals
2 behinds
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
I can assure you I have watched it.
The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.
Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
I can assure you I have watched it.
The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.
Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent
Maybe it will become apparent to you.
It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
I can assure you I have watched it.
The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.
Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent
Maybe it will become apparent to you.
It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.
But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.
For leadership and culture reasons...
Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?
Got it. Super sound argument.
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
I can assure you I have watched it.
The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.
Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent
Maybe it will become apparent to you.
It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.
But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.
For leadership and culture reasons...
Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?
Got it. Super sound argument.
You sound like someone still trying to navigate high school.
Not going to waste any more time explaining basic things to you.
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
I can assure you I have watched it.
The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.
Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent
Maybe it will become apparent to you.
It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.
But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.
For leadership and culture reasons...
Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?
Got it. Super sound argument.
Norf is proof that trading/delisting everyone doesn't work
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
I can assure you I have watched it.
The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.
Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent
Maybe it will become apparent to you.
It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.
But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.
For leadership and culture reasons...
Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?
Got it. Super sound argument.
Norf is proof that trading/delisting everyone doesn't work
No. North is not proof of anything. Outside of one bad rebuild. And it might have looked a lot different with better drafting trading coaching. Etc
Richmond has shown it's possible to win with very few older players and leaders leading up to the flag - cousins? Maric? Newman? Not much else.
There's a numbers of young list and teams in the top 8 currently.
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If we aren’t looking for decent free agent mids we’re in trouble for a while. Smilie hasn’t debuted so essentially will be a first year player next year. Lalor is more forward than mid right now. Those 2 first round picks need to be ‘ready to go’ mids.
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If we aren’t looking for decent free agent mids we’re in trouble for a while. Smilie hasn’t debuted so essentially will be a first year player next year. Lalor is more forward than mid right now. Those 2 first round picks need to be ‘ready to go’ mids.
People think we have enough mids to not draft sharp...
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Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?
You want to trade away our best player lmao
We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.
I can assure you I have watched it.
The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.
Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent
Maybe it will become apparent to you.
It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.
But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.
For leadership and culture reasons...
Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?
Got it. Super sound argument.
You sound like someone still trying to navigate high school.
Not going to waste any more time explaining basic things to you.
And you sound like a rocket scientist mate but the fact remains holding onto Vlastuin isn't going to benefit the club long term - bar his mystical leadership and culture that resulted in 1 goal for most of the game today.
To highlight the point further 2/3 good players to come in next week are almost cooked too. Lynch. Broad. Taranto.
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If we aren’t looking for decent free agent mids we’re in trouble for a while. Smilie hasn’t debuted so essentially will be a first year player next year. Lalor is more forward than mid right now. Those 2 first round picks need to be ‘ready to go’ mids.
People think we have enough mids to not draft sharp...
We have enough mids like sharp to not draft him, that’s obvious
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If we aren’t looking for decent free agent mids we’re in trouble for a while. Smilie hasn’t debuted so essentially will be a first year player next year. Lalor is more forward than mid right now. Those 2 first round picks need to be ‘ready to go’ mids.
People think we have enough mids to not draft sharp...
We have enough mids like sharp to not draft him, that’s obvious
Outside of hopper 29. Prestia. 33 ?
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If we aren’t looking for decent free agent mids we’re in trouble for a while. Smilie hasn’t debuted so essentially will be a first year player next year. Lalor is more forward than mid right now. Those 2 first round picks need to be ‘ready to go’ mids.
People think we have enough mids to not draft sharp...
We have enough mids like sharp to not draft him, that’s obvious
Outside of hopper 29. Prestia. 33 ?
Hopper, Taranto, Prestia, Ross
Pretty much the whole rotation of the midfield.
Not to mention Lalor and Smillie, whatever they become.
We need pace, class and spread. Grlj and cumming look more likely options
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cumming was apparently very poor today fwiw
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Thought he may have been injured today. Was bog last week with 20 disposals and 3 goals in the SANFL.. clearly has the ability
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I agree with AJ here (no not about vlas). We just have to take the best 2 players available at our picks. If that’s sharp then that’s it. Yes, I also have reservations about what a midfield with Smillie and Sharp looks like long term considering they seem very similar but that’s something to worry about down the track.
Prestia has 1 year tops left in him. TT and Hopper still have 4 years left on their deals but I doubt either are in our next flag side. If our next midfield group while we contend is Lalor, Hotton, Smillie, then we definetly have plenty of scope to draft 2 more high end mids this year.
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Just heard on the 7am news on the wireless (Gold 104.3) that we've approached Draper from Essendon.
I believe there is a story on today's Age about Adelaide wanting to meet with him and that we've approached him too
Thoughts?
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No thanks. All of his nuanes aren’t appealing to team football
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We need a plan for nank. Not sure he’s the answer
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Hard hard pass on Draper. One of the most uncoordinated players you’ll see.
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Just heard on the 7am news on the wireless (Gold 104.3) that we've approached Draper from Essendon.
I believe there is a story on today's Age about Adelaide wanting to meet with him and that we've approached him too
Thoughts?
I'd actually be interested if the price is right tbh.
Don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people bash him for being.
Much more agile than Nank despite being larger.
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Just heard on the 7am news on the wireless (Gold 104.3) that we've approached Draper from Essendon.
I believe there is a story on today's Age about Adelaide wanting to meet with him and that we've approached him too
Thoughts?
I'd actually be interested if the price is right tbh.
Don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people bash him for being.
Much more agile than Nank despite being larger.
He is very unskilled and has the footy IQ comparable to balta.
I swear most of his highlight plays are made to look much better because he is so unco it looks harder then it should.
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Just heard on the 7am news on the wireless (Gold 104.3) that we've approached Draper from Essendon.
I believe there is a story on today's Age about Adelaide wanting to meet with him and that we've approached him too
Thoughts?
I'd actually be interested if the price is right tbh.
Don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people bash him for being.
Much more agile than Nank despite being larger.
He is very unskilled and has the footy IQ comparable to balta.
I swear most of his highlight plays are made to look much better because he is so unco it looks harder then it should.
Yeah I just don't agree.
Not saying he's a world beater.
Just not as bad as you're suggesting.
Guy is big, gets to more taps and kicks goals quite regularly.
All depends on the price but he's an option while Nank is getting old and we have....who else exactly?
Ryan on one foot?
Sims the teenager?
Collina the spineless giant?
OHB?
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Just heard on the 7am news on the wireless (Gold 104.3) that we've approached Draper from Essendon.
I believe there is a story on today's Age about Adelaide wanting to meet with him and that we've approached him too
Thoughts?
I'd actually be interested if the price is right tbh.
Don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people bash him for being.
Much more agile than Nank despite being larger.
Agree Andyy
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Just heard on the 7am news on the wireless (Gold 104.3) that we've approached Draper from Essendon.
I believe there is a story on today's Age about Adelaide wanting to meet with him and that we've approached him too
Thoughts?
I'd actually be interested if the price is right tbh.
Don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people bash him for being.
Much more agile than Nank despite being larger.
He is very unskilled and has the footy IQ comparable to balta.
I swear most of his highlight plays are made to look much better because he is so unco it looks harder then it should.
Yeah I just don't agree.
Not saying he's a world beater.
Just not as bad as you're suggesting.
Guy is big, gets to more taps and kicks goals quite regularly.
All depends on the price but he's an option while Nank is getting old and we have....who else exactly?
Ryan on one foot?
Sims the teenager?
Collina the spineless giant?
OHB?
Yeah it needs to be addressed just do not rate him 1 bit. As much as I hate drafting rucks, if CDT doesn’t get picked by WC, I don’t think he makes it past us. So you’ll have someone to presumably take over from nank in a few years time.
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Just heard on the 7am news on the wireless (Gold 104.3) that we've approached Draper from Essendon.
I believe there is a story on today's Age about Adelaide wanting to meet with him and that we've approached him too
Thoughts?
I'd actually be interested if the price is right tbh.
Don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people bash him for being.
Much more agile than Nank despite being larger.
He is very unskilled and has the footy IQ comparable to balta.
I swear most of his highlight plays are made to look much better because he is so unco it looks harder then it should.
Yeah I just don't agree.
Not saying he's a world beater.
Just not as bad as you're suggesting.
Guy is big, gets to more taps and kicks goals quite regularly.
All depends on the price but he's an option while Nank is getting old and we have....who else exactly?
Ryan on one foot?
Sims the teenager?
Collina the spineless giant?
OHB?
Yeah it needs to be addressed just do not rate him 1 bit. As much as I hate drafting rucks, if CDT doesn’t get picked by WC, I don’t think he makes it past us. So you’ll have someone to presumably take over from nank in a few years time.
Do you think Nank has a few (3?) years left?
He's 31 next week.
I'd want to be moving away from him as the primary ruck/sole option next year or definitely the one after at the latest.
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Dunno how long he’s got left, none of us do. But your probably right in that it’s more likely to be less than more given how beaten up he’s been.
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Dunno how long he’s got left, none of us do. But your probably right in that it’s more likely to be less than more given how beaten up he’s been.
Agree with that last sentiment and it's a real shame we've not secured a proper 2nd ruck role to give him a chop out. Sims is too young and we've never persisted with any other options.
I'm worried nank will fall off a cliff next year.
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Id be fine with Draper. He's not amazing but we have a huge hole in our side Ruckman wise post Nank. It's been a miracle with our injury list that Nank has been unaffected and played every game.
We have money in cap. Could do far worse.
My preference would be to go for one more in our next premiership window such as Madden from GWS, the boy from GC, even Heath from Saints since they have Dodson and TDK incoming.
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Id be fine with Draper. He's not amazing but we have a huge hole in our side Ruckman wise post Nank. It's been a miracle with our injury list that Nank has been unaffected and played every game.
We have money in cap. Could do far worse.
My preference would be to go for one more in our next premiership window such as Madden from GWS, the boy from GC, even Heath from Saints since they have Dodson and TDK incoming.
So true mate.
Imagine if Nank went down.
Sims a teenager. Ryan out long term. OHB and Colina injured too.
Even ruck forwards like Lefau out.
We should, no crap, literally be rucking the likes of Balta + Kossi. That's dire.
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Get TDK if saints gone off him
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Mihocek only being offered 1 year from the pies, if they don’t up the length he’ll move on. Now that’s something I’d be interested in, although if lynch re-signs, you’d have 2 veterans taking up spots of Sims/Armstrong/Faull. I guess you could just rotate the 5 of them btw the 3 weekly spots in the 22 assuming they are all fit which is pretty questionable lol
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Pass for me.
Not saying he isn't a good player, just don't see the point at this stage of our build unless Lynch retires - which he apparently won't be doing.
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Get TDK if saints gone off him
Jackson slaughtered him on Sunday. He is a B grader at best.
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Pass for me.
Not saying he isn't a good player, just don't see the point at this stage of our build unless Lynch retires - which he apparently won't be doing.
Yeah i tend to agree. If lynch were to retire it would be a different story. Although knowing our rate of injuries another body could help but then I guess you’ve got mkelti there too.
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Mihocek would be perfect - give him 3 years and by the time he’s ready to move on we have Armstrong, Faull and hopefully Sims into their 4 years
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3 years is excessive. He’ll be 33 by the start of next season. Missed 10+ games last season and another hand full this season.
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I don't see why you would want Mihocek if lynch is staying.
Faull. Armstrong. Sims.
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"The Tigers are leading the pack to sign Mally Rosas Jr." 🐯
- Riley Beveridge on Malcom Rosas Jr.'s future
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From the AFL web-site re the Forgotten Man Koschitzke
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Essendon's Jayden Laverde, Hawthorn's Sam Frost and Richmond's Jacob Koschitzke are some of the other names the Giants have been looking at.
Jayden Laverde during the round 23 match between Essendon and St Kilda at Marvel Stadium on August 15, 2025. Picture: AFL Photos
Laverde has played 12 games for the Bombers this year but is one of more than a dozen at Tullamarine in contract limbo. Frost has played only two senior games following the arrival of Tom Barrass and Josh Battle, while Koschitzke has played only twice under Adem Yze this year.
GWS is often in the market for low-cost players and has success over the journey, with the likes of Jesse Hogan, Matt de Boer and Toby Bedford all making big impacts at Engie Stadium. – Josh Gabelich
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1396363/inside-trading-swan-could-move-to-fifth-club-lion-weighs-up-future-docker-to-sign
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They can have Kossi, just pay his salary IMO.
As much as he seems top bloke.
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'Perfect fit': One realistic trade target for all 18 AFL teams this off-season
Nic Negrepontis
Nine
22 Aug 2025
Richmond
Target: Malcolm Rosas (Gold Coast)
Another Gold Coast player linked with a move out for greater opportunity, Rosas would be a great addition to Richmond's forward line.
The Tigers have Seth Campbell, Maurice Rioli and Steely Green, but Rosas would certainly be in their best side as a small forward and mix well with the existing group.
If not him: Davies, another Sun, would also make sense for Richmond in 2026 as they build out their list.
https://www.nine.com.au/sport/afl/trade-rumours-2025-predictions-one-realistic-target-all-18-teams-20250821-p5mowi.html
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They can have Kossi, just pay his salary IMO.
As much as he seems top bloke.
3 goals in a final against them
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Four
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allan to the lions so its pick 3 and 4 for us.
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They can have Kossi, just pay his salary IMO.
As much as he seems top bloke.
Nope we want a late third or 4th rounder for him. Opens up another spot in the draft may even be enough for Kellaway.
Keep saying it Tassie is coming and list turnover continues to be a big need.
For me 4 nd picks 2 f/a if possible a trade maybe and we utilise the rookie drafts PSSS, PSD, MSD and rookie draft targeting top performers in the state leagues with what will be the second pick in most of them.
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Foxfooty.com.au runs through which defenders the Dogs should target to help turn the club into a bona fide contender.
Nick Vlastuin (Richmond)
The triple-premiership Tiger has been a legit All-Australian contender this year as the cornerstone of Richmond’s defence, holding up superbly against bulk opposition inside 50s. More of a medium defender at 187cm, but as competitive as they come. The pitch from the Dogs would be pretty obvious. The 31-year old has been a great servant to the Tigers and given them everything, but he could still net the rebuilding club some value in a trade and finish off his career at a finals-caliber side, if not more. Not only did Vlastuin rank No. 5 in intercepts this year and No. 16 in rebound 50s, he also averaged 19.1 disposals per game. An unrestricted free agent next year.
Nathan Broad (Richmond)
Broad has long stayed fiercely loyal to the Tigers over the journey and throughout the recent slide. But like Vlasutin, Broad would be questioning if he’s going to play finals again. Though the triple-premiership defender ultimately might not care. Broad has admitted he considered a move to North Melbourne last year, while the 32-year old earlier this year said he plans to retire when his current contract expires at the end of 2026, with the lure of returning to Perth.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/western-bulldogs/afl-2025-western-bulldogs-defender-trade-targets-list-needs-luke-beveridge-loss-to-fremantle-latest-news/news-story/67018669f1905c77382b0b2520f58012
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So I wonder if saints would be offering anything up for either one of our picks to give to blues.
I assume the blues will match TDK?
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So I wonder if saints would be offering anything up for either one of our picks to give to blues.
I assume the blues will match TDK?
I'd be surprised if they match
The don't have the cap space
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So I wonder if saints would be offering anything up for either one of our picks to give to blues.
I assume the blues will match TDK?
I'd be surprised if they match
The don't have the cap space
So then it's a compo pick after the saints?
I'm all for the baggas getting rolled by the system, but that compo is just garbage.
As it stands now it's pick 10, before taking into consideration any academy picks.
Bad management by the blues to not be in a position to match and force a trade, therefore receiving a better hand.
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So I wonder if saints would be offering anything up for either one of our picks to give to blues.
I assume the blues will match TDK?
I'd be surprised if they match
The don't have the cap space
So then it's a compo pick after the saints?
I'm all for the baggas getting rolled by the system, but that compo is just garbage.
As it stands now it's pick 10, before taking into consideration any academy picks.
Bad management by the blues to not be in a position to match and force a trade, therefore receiving a better hand.
If the blues matched whose to say that tdk would want a trade ?
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So I wonder if saints would be offering anything up for either one of our picks to give to blues.
I assume the blues will match TDK?
I'd be surprised if they match
The don't have the cap space
So then it's a compo pick after the saints?
I'm all for the baggas getting rolled by the system, but that compo is just garbage.
As it stands now it's pick 10, before taking into consideration any academy picks.
Bad management by the blues to not be in a position to match and force a trade, therefore receiving a better hand.
Blues compo is a pick after their ladder position, isn't it? So around P9 + slides?
Assuming that's how it works when you've traded out your first rounder.
Saints only have P7 anyway and tbh given they have Marshal I don't think they should trade for De Koning.
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Baggers paid their players on the assumption that they would win 5 flags in a row.
It actually works in reverse which is why Cats and Pies can continually go after free agents every year
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No way on earth Carlton would match that offer even if they could which they can’t. If they could offer anywhere near that crazy money that the saints are offering TDK would have re-signed months ago.
Blues will get band 1 compo which is the pick after their ladder position initially and then sliding back for each father son, academy and FA compos lol
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No way on earth Carlton would match that offer even if they could which they can’t. If they could offer anywhere near that crazy money that the saints are offering TDK would have re-signed months ago.
Blues will get band 1 compo which is the pick after their ladder position initially and then sliding back for each father son, academy and FA compos lol
Yeah so in this draft, easily P13+?
Suckers
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No way on earth Carlton would match that offer even if they could which they can’t. If they could offer anywhere near that crazy money that the saints are offering TDK would have re-signed months ago.
Blues will get band 1 compo which is the pick after their ladder position initially and then sliding back for each father son, academy and FA compos lol
Yeah so in this draft, easily P13+?
Suckers
Yeah you’d think it will fall somewhere around pick 15 lol
They can’t complain too much though as their own father son pickup will cause it to slide down.
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Harley Reid extended to the end of 2028 so we can finally stop posting about that now.
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“I sat down with Shane Dunne, their [Richmond's] CEO this week, and clearly this off-season is going to look very different to last year when you consider the retirements and the departures of so many premiership greats, plus the departure of (former CEO) Brendon Gale,” AFL.com.au journalist and SEN regular Josh Gabelich told SEN Crunch Time.
“This year, they go to the draft with pick two and pick three, that’s what they’ve got at the moment. They are not going to be aggressive – we don’t expect – in the trade period.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/08/31/afl-2025-richmonds-three-step-off-season-plan-redevelopment-selling-home-game)
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Would be madness for us to go trading now.
Happy to offload someone like Short.
If the correct offer for Balta came I'd consider that too given we have all of Miller, Young, Gibcus, Trainor, Faull, Sims, Armstrong.
That's about it.
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Hopefully we go to Port Adelaide with 2&3 for Butters.
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Hopefully we go to Port Adelaide with 2&3 for Butters.
Reckon that's enough? Not sure personally.
Would they send back 42 for Kellaway? Would slide to 50 or so probably.
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Hopefully we go to Port Adelaide with 2&3 for Butters.
Reckon that's enough? Not sure personally.
Would they send back 42 for Kellaway? Would slide to 50 or so probably.
Seeing Butters has said he will honour the final year of his contract and this all seems to be media driven I don't think it really matters TBBH
Also, and assuming he wants to leave the RFC could offer those picks but end of the day he needs to want to come to RFC and I doubt very much he'd want to
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Hopefully we go to Port Adelaide with 2&3 for Butters.
Reckon that's enough? Not sure personally.
Would they send back 42 for Kellaway? Would slide to 50 or so probably.
Seeing Butters has said he will honour the final year of his contract and this all seems to be media driven I don't think it really matters TBBH
Also, and assuming he wants to leave the RFC could offer those picks but end of the day he needs to want to come to RFC and I doubt very much he'd want to
If he’s interested in coming to Richmond then just wait a year and get him as a free agent. The time for trading will come but it’s not in the next couple of years.
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Would be madness for us to go trading now.
Happy to offload someone like Short.
If the correct offer for Balta came I'd consider that too given we have all of Miller, Young, Gibcus, Trainor, Faull, Sims, Armstrong.
That's about it.
I get your logic but neither have any trade value at the moment - Balta both because of the year he’s had and his contract. Might get a late second rounder which is nothing.
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Would be madness for us to go trading now.
Happy to offload someone like Short.
If the correct offer for Balta came I'd consider that too given we have all of Miller, Young, Gibcus, Trainor, Faull, Sims, Armstrong.
That's about it.
I get your logic but neither have any trade value at the moment - Balta both because of the year he’s had and his contract. Might get a late second rounder which is nothing.
What do you think Balta is worth?
Short I'd take a mid-late 2nd or even a 3rd, something to get Kellaway in the door tbh.
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Herald Sun article just made comment of young being chased by 3 clubs - north, dogs n eagles named.
Can't fully open article due to pay wall
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/north-melbourne-western-bulldogs-and-west-coast-chasing-richmond-defender-tylar-young/news-story/7941ed49030c3b2585c11111f3a7d710?amp
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Would do a trade for young
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I wouldn't
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I wouldn't
Everyone on the list
As in , every single player, is available
All comes down to what is offered .. some the offer would need to be utterly ridiculous obviously, but nobody is untouchable
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no way not for me. 2 more years. Offer wont be anything good and in a shallow draft. Pass
i cant believe we have signed up duds like dow, ross quicker in previous years and we are making TY wait.
ho showed promise i thought.
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I read somewhere, will confess can't remember where that Young has been offered a new deal
If that's the case then it's on him and hs8 management not the Club that he hasn't re-signed
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no way not for me. 2 more years. Offer wont be anything good and in a shallow draft. Pass
i cant believe we have signed up duds like dow, ross quicker in previous years and we are making TY wait.
ho showed promise i thought.
Agree with this. We’re not gonna get anything better than a second rounder in a shallow draft this year or a compromised draft next year. He’s more value to us on the list then trading.
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I think you’ll find he’ll be a free agent, so if he goes, we won’t get anything for him!
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I think you’ll find he’ll be a free agent, so if he goes, we won’t get anything for him!
Will only become a FA if we delist him (delisted FA). Outside of that he is not eligible for free agency
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Elijah Hollands has been told by Carlton to explore opportunities elsewhere.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/09/01/afl-2025-elijah-hollands-carlton-michael-voss-tdk
Not saying we should but would we show any interest given his dad played for us albeit only 8 games?
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Elijah Hollands has been told by Carlton to explore opportunities elsewhere.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/09/01/afl-2025-elijah-hollands-carlton-michael-voss-tdk
Not saying we should but would we show any interest given his dad played for us albeit only 8 games?
Pass, Voss was on the wireless yesterday and said he had been told to find a new home to not being able to get his off field issues sorted
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Elijah Hollands has been told by Carlton to explore opportunities elsewhere.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/09/01/afl-2025-elijah-hollands-carlton-michael-voss-tdk
Not saying we should but would we show any interest given his dad played for us albeit only 8 games?
Nah I think he sucks personally
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Don’t need troubled players at the club.