Trade talk, rumours & innuendo 2025

[ajGreen]

Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.

On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.

This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.

Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.

Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.

Maric played 0 games and 3 the previous season.
Rance was 27 on grand final day.

Maric was a good leader but that's the point there were very few in the lead up to the first flag.

Your argument for leadership and culture is Aaron Edwards and Troy Chaplin? Oh boy. Including deledio is rather funny. We have certainly revised history and the narrative from 2016/2017 to today.

The incoming expansion teams is more reasons to invest in young assets now not be nostalgic to a 32 year old. Not less.

It's very debatable if Vlastuin is fast tracking our rebuild. He will be very hard to replace whenever it happens. 

[ajGreen]

Leadership and culture is largely rubbish.

Richmond won three flags with very little mature players for a long time leading into 2017 with mostly duds as the older players.

Look at how young the list.

If you have an opportunity to find an 18 year old Vlastuin to add to pick 2 and 3 + the current group very silly to overlook that

Genuinely honest question, are you actually a Tiger supporter? Don't mind either way, just actually curious.

Leadership and culture are critical items in a rebuild with so many young kids. Being a good player doesn't mean you're a leader and being a leader doesn't mean you're a good player (see Maxwell, Pies captain. Harley, Cats captain. Modest players IMO).

I also don't think any club is going to offer a top 10 or even 15 pick for Vlastuin at his age. Maybe they'd be offering 15-20+ but with this draft reportedly not that deep, and the amount of kids we've already drafted, I wouldn't be entertaining it unless it was an offer too good to refuse. Of which we haven't received any yet.

Like I said. Who were the old leaders in the 17 flag? And the years before.  The tigers had very few mature players bar a couple like maric and Newman. The leadership was developed from within the young core; cotchin, Vlastuin etc.

That resulted in a young list and winning three times and only finished when it was mishandled at the end.

Vlastuin at 32 is a champion but he is stopping the development of a young player and the back 6 is too old with broad. Short. Floss.

It's be very short sighted to reject a proper top20 selection for him.

You didn't answer my question.


What's your own question specifically? Do you want to know who our experienced leaders were prior to the dynasty/development of our 4 key players?


The 2020 list was actually very mature and I'm somewhat in agreement with the theory that the shorter games in 2020 suited that aspect of our list to be honest.


Vlastuin IMHO is not stopping anyone's development. Nor is Broad. Who should be taking their spots this year? Short might be, yes, I said I'm agreeable to trade him.

I didn't answer your question because it was dumb. I know who the mature players and leaders were in 2017 and say the ten years leading up to it were.

No one wants short. He has no value.

Broad is keeping out blight. Gray. And now gibcus. So your comment is completely untrue. Also forcing Trainor to play out of his natural position.

Btw we are discussing who Vlastuin will keep out next season - with a new batch of kids and hopefully a better injury run.

2020 is irrelevant.

[Tiger Khosh]

So who is he keeping out you say….. blight, gray and Gibcus…..

Gibcus has at no point been fit enough to play a game this season, when he is, like I said I’d imagine he is straight in.

Blight is not a like for like replacement for Vlas. He would not come in even if Vlas got injured. Same albeit to a lesser extent with Gray (who has been injured most of the season). They are key position defenders. The players that are keeping them out are Miller, Young and Balta. And stuff me, even if they were, we really talking about trading Vlas so we can prioritise playing a couple of mid season rookie list players……?

We have 2 picks in this years draft and neither of which will be used on a kpd so that is unlikely to change next season and by the end of that broad will retire which will open a spot for anyone who is good enough to come in.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

We did our trading last year. Lots can go wrong but this year’s crop of draftee’s is the best I have ever seen at the club. The overall draft is already throwing up the potential to be one of the best ever. The on field leadership will accelerate their development. Period. You either buy into it or you don’t. The last half dozen flag winning teams ARE older. Much older. The game has well and truly moved on since 2017.

[Go Richo 12]

Anyone who thinks that Vlastuin is stopping development at our club needs to think of Melbourne’s rebuild under Mark Neeld.

[Andyy]

Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.

On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.

This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.

Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.

Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.

 

[Francois Jackson]

Vlastuin should never be traded under any circumstances. On the verge of an AA cap and some are happy for him to go for a pick who most likely will be a dud in a dud draft.

On field leaders, Maric, Grigg, Bachar, Rance, all were or would have been 29 plus i'm pretty sure by our first flag. Before that we saw chapman, edwards, daniel jackson, lids, J King, roll around.

This argument doesn't take into consideration tassy and the compromised draft that we are heading into.

Vlas isn't stoping anyone developing. In fact he is fast tracking our rebuild.

Crazy to suggest otherwise IMO.

Maric played 0 games and 3 the previous season.
Rance was 27 on grand final day.

Maric was a good leader but that's the point there were very few in the lead up to the first flag.

Your argument for leadership and culture is Aaron Edwards and Troy Chaplin? Oh boy. Including deledio is rather funny. We have certainly revised history and the narrative from 2016/2017 to today.

The incoming expansion teams is more reasons to invest in young assets now not be nostalgic to a 32 year old. Not less.

It's very debatable if Vlastuin is fast tracking our rebuild. He will be very hard to replace whenever it happens.

You mentioned leaders but you also said we had very little mature players and I pointed them out.

Vlas is more valuable now than ever.

I would not only retain him but offer him a further 2 year contract.

[one-eyed]

Rosas auditioned for us in the VFL game. Kicked 4 goals.

17 disposals (10k, 7h, 6c, 11u, 70.6% eff.)
7 marks
1 tackle
1 clearance
4 inside 50s
3 intercepts
6 score involvements
4 goals
2 behinds

[ajGreen]

Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?

[Andyy]

Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?

You want to trade away our best player lmao

We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.

[ajGreen]

Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?

You want to trade away our best player lmao

We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.

I can assure you I have watched it.

The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.

Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent

[Andyy]

Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?

You want to trade away our best player lmao

We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.

I can assure you I have watched it.

The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.

Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent

Maybe it will become apparent to you.

It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.

[ajGreen]

Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?

You want to trade away our best player lmao

We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.

I can assure you I have watched it.

The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.

Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent

Maybe it will become apparent to you.

It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.

But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.

For leadership and culture reasons...

Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?

Got it. Super sound argument.

[Andyy]

Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?

You want to trade away our best player lmao

We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.

I can assure you I have watched it.

The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.

Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent

Maybe it will become apparent to you.

It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.

But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.

For leadership and culture reasons...

Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?

Got it. Super sound argument.

You sound like someone still trying to navigate high school.

Not going to waste any more time explaining basic things to you.

[wayne]

Zero goals at half time today. A direct result of all that leadership and culture?

You want to trade away our best player lmao

We can all be sure that you're not even watching it, just checking the scores on your phone etc.

I can assure you I have watched it.

The best player will be gone sooner rather than later either way.

Then the reality of the rebuild will be apparent

Maybe it will become apparent to you.

It's not lost on the rest of us who have been paying attention all year.

But you'd keep him. Ahead of a good draft pick.

For leadership and culture reasons...

Which have resulted in one goal for the team in today's game?

Got it. Super sound argument.

Norf is proof that trading/delisting everyone doesn't work