One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 13, 2006, 01:52:38 AM
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It's probably rubbish but there's a thread on BF that says we may convince Polak to put a 1-year 600k contract on his head so we can get him in the PSD and stuff Freo altogether and then re-sign Polak for 150k for 2 years in 2007 so the overall deals average out to be 300k per season over 3 years. Similar to what Hawthorn wants to do with Thorton. Royal heading off to Perth midweek to see Polak and the fact Tuck has subsequently been taken off the trade table has got tongues wagging.
In the paper today the AFL say that sort of thing is legal and it's not draft-tampering to frontload contracts. Because we are only paying the bare 92.5% minimum in TPP, we supposedly can fit the 600k within our salary next year but spread the payments over the 3 years so we don't go over budget.
Your thoughts?
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do it...keep pick 8 and get him anyway :cheers
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Well there goes that idea lol.
Who will we now pick up in the PSD? Apart from Thorton there's no one else obviously available or at least who will still be around by our pick 8. Will we pass on the PSD altogether? ???
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What about this Perry dude fron North Melbourne.
You can never have too many KP players, would put pressure on players like Sarge and Razor
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What about this Perry dude fron North Melbourne.
You can never have too many KP players, would put pressure on players like Sarge and Razor
No idea what happened with Perry. A week ago we supposedly had offered him a 2-year deal when North had only offered him one. By midweek there was only "minor interest" and today not a word ???. If he wanted out of North you'd thought he and especially North would have looked to trade him this week.
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Perry is meant to out of contract.
Seen on the news that north started training today.
Does anyone know if Perry fronted up? He maybe someone we are after for the PSD?
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Perry . LMO
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The following names were mentioned in The Australian today. Any interest from us here for the PSD?
Brisbane's Tim Notting, who has only been offered a one-year-deal by Brisbane;
Essendon's Adam McPhee, who is yet to agree on terms with the Bombers,
Adelaide forward Scott Welsh who remains in contract dispute with the Crows;
Kent Kingsley, who quit the Cats during the VFL finals series;
Geelong midfielder Tim Callan,
Hawthorn's Nick Ries and Josh Thurgood, two of six Hawks delisted yesterday.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20592816-36035,00.html
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Kent Kingsley, who quit the Cats during the VFL finals series;
I've said it before and I'll say it again I can see some merit in getting Kingsley - he'd be bloody cheap and decent back up if we suffer some injuries and Schulz has to go down back
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Kent Kingsley, who quit the Cats during the VFL finals series;
I've said it before and I'll say it again I can see some merit in getting Kingsley - he'd be bloody cheap and decent back up if we suffer some injuries and Schulz has to go down back
i agree!
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Tim Notting goes alright.
A hell of alot better than Tivendale.
27yoa, 150+ games,
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What about Makepeace, a bit small but would provide great experience
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Slim pickings so far from the delistings. No wonder there are fewer and fewer trades and PSD pick-ups :-\.
2006 Delistings and retirements
Adelaide: Ben Hart (retired), Hayden Skipworth, Chad Gibson, Alan Obst, Tom Redden (rookie)
Brisbane: Clark Keating, Jayden Attard, Marty Pask (rookie), Luke Forsyth (rookie)
Carlton: Luke Livingston, Cory McGrath, Trent Sporn, Ian Prendergast, Troy Longmuir, Jesse Smith (rookie), Daniel Batson (rookie)
Collingwood:
Essendon: Joel Reynolds, Aaron Henneman, Tristan Carteldge, Ben Jolley (rookie), Tim O'Keefe (rookie)
Fremantle: Daniel Haines, Jack Juniper, Joe Krieger, Toby Stribling
Geelong:
Hawthorn: Matthew Ball, Luke Brennan, Ben Kane, Harry Miller, Nick Ries, Josh Thurgood
Kangaroos: Troy Makepeace, Chad Jones, Cameron Thurley, Mark Powell, Justin Perkins (rookie)
Melbourne: Shannon Motlop, Phillip Read, Nick Smith
Port Adelaide: Matthew Bishop, James Ezard, Elijah Ware, Ben Eckerman, Peter Walsh, Aaron Shattock, Tom Looby (rookie), Tom Rischbieth (rookie)
Richmond: Greg Stafford (retired), Mark Chaffey (retired), Andrew Kellaway, David Rodan, Tom Roach, Jeremy Humm (rookie)
St Kilda: Mark McGough, Allan Murray
Sydney:
Western Bulldogs: Kieran McGuinness, Brad Murphy, Jesse Wells, Tom Davidson (rookie)
West Coast: Travis Gaspar
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After looking at a history of the pre-season draft, I think Richmond would be better off not picking anyone, or using the pick on a youngster who missed out in the National Draft (Matt White).
That is where most of the success seems to come from.
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After looking at a history of the pre-season draft, I think Richmond would be better off not picking anyone, or using the pick on a youngster who missed out in the National Draft (Matt White).
That is where most of the success seems to come from.
I hope we go that way too wayne and give a youngster a chance. Why pick up another recycled dud like a Weller or Marsh and just waste a spot on our list :help.
Miller said today that we will have 5 choices in the draft this year. So that may means 4 in the National draft and one in the PSD.
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I think we may take 5 in the national draft, unless we can entice someone uncontracted that fits into the PSD. Cannot see anyone worth taking from the current list above. (Kingsley was rumoured to be coming to Richmond about 2 months ago though. :-\ )
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Defender and No. 4 pick in the 2000 draft, Luke Livingston has been delisted by the Blues along with utility Cory McGrath.
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Defender and No. 4 pick in the 2000 draft, Luke Livingston has been delisted by the Blues along with utility Cory McGrath.
Honestly not a surprise about Livingstone. Didn't they give him Kernahan's old number?
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Defender and No. 4 pick in the 2000 draft, Luke Livingston has been delisted by the Blues along with utility Cory McGrath.
Honestly not a surprise about Livingstone. Didn't they give him Kernahan's old number?
Yep ;).
Carlton stuffed up big time in the 2000 draft when they had 3 picks in the top 20 - Livingstone, Sporn and Wiggins. One of the rare drafts we actually did well in with Pettifer and Cogs in the top 25 below plus Hyde, Krak and Newman.
1 Nick Riewoldt St Kilda
2 Justin Koschitzke St Kilda
3 Alan Didak Collingwood
4 Luke Livingston Carlton
5 Andrew McDougall West Coast
6 Dylan Smith Kangaroos
7 Laurence Angwin Adelaide
8 Daniel Motlop Kangaroos
9 Kayne Pettifer Richmond
10 Jordan McMahon Western Bulldogs
11 Trent Sporn Carlton
12 Shaun Burgoyne Port Adelaide
13 Ashley McGrath Brisbane Lions
14 Daniel Harris Kangaroos
15 Simon Wiggins Carlton
16 Scott Thompson Melbourne
17 James Davies Essendon
18 Daniel Kerr West Coast Eagles
19 (F/S) Jason Cloke Collingwood :lol
20 Kane Cornes Port Adelaide
21 Nick Ries Hawthorn
22 Richard Hadley Brisbane Lions
23 Drew Petrie Kangaroos
24 Luke Ablett Sydney Swans
25 Mark Coughlan Richmond
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Yep ;).
Carlton stuffed up big time in the 2000 draft when they had 3 picks in the top 20 - Livingstone, Sporn and Wiggins. One of the rare drafts we actually did well in with Pettifer and Cogs in the top 25 below plus Hyde, Krak and Newman.
1 Nick Riewoldt St Kilda
2 Justin Koschitzke St Kilda
3 Alan Didak Collingwood
4 Luke Livingston Carlton
5 Andrew McDougall West Coast
6 Dylan Smith Kangaroos
7 Laurence Angwin Adelaide
8 Daniel Motlop Kangaroos
9 Kayne Pettifer Richmond
10 Jordan McMahon Western Bulldogs
11 Trent Sporn Carlton
12 Shaun Burgoyne Port Adelaide
13 Ashley McGrath Brisbane Lions
14 Daniel Harris Kangaroos
15 Simon Wiggins Carlton
16 Scott Thompson Melbourne
17 James Davies Essendon
18 Daniel Kerr West Coast Eagles
19 (F/S) Jason Cloke Collingwood :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
20 Kane Cornes Port Adelaide
21 Nick Ries Hawthorn
22 Richard Hadley Brisbane Lions
23 Drew Petrie Kangaroos
24 Luke Ablett Sydney Swans
25 Mark Coughlan Richmond
We didn't do too bad with Petts eventually, god there were some steals in that draft, Kerr, Cornes, Burgoyne, Ablett..... all interstate teams as well.
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Tigers plan for pre-season draft
9:09:08 AM Mon 23 October, 2006
Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
“We took a mature-age player in Trent Knobel two years ago (in the pre-season draft) and then went for a youngster in Matty White last year, so we’re certainly prepared to look at all options,” said Richmond coach Terry Wallace.
“We’re more than comfortable to add a senior player to our list via the pre-season draft.
“If we think that a player can have an impact on games for us, we’ll go after him.
“It’s something we’ll just weigh up over the next few weeks as we see who’s available.”
Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=featurestories&spg=display&articleid=304639
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That article says we have 6 picks, 13, 26, 58, 60, 74 and 90
It says we will most likely take 5 in the national draft and 1 in the psd.
If that is the case, is it just Staff, Chaff, K2, Rodant, Humm and Roach gone?
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Humm was a promoted rookie so he didn't take up a senior list spot. So with Staff, Chaff, Chubba, Rodan and Roach gone and Howat promoted unofficially that leaves 4 free spots on our senior list. If we want to use six picks (5 National + 1 PSD) then 2 more have to be delisted. If Richo as a vet is moved outside the senior list then just one more has to go. The latter would leave us with 4 rookie list spots.
Rumour has it that the one of those next to be delisted will be rookie listed if not picked up by another club.
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I can't believe Carlton poached Ackland from St Kilda and gave him a 3-year :o contract. Geez they are desperate lol.
1. Carlton - Cain Ackland (St K)
2. Essendon
3. Kangaroos - Hayden Skipworth (Adel)?
4. Brisbane
5. Port - Harry Miller (Haw)?
6. Hawthorn
7. Geelong
8. Richmond
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Geelong has delisted Kent Kingsley as well as Matthew McCarthy, Paul Koulouriotis and rookies Will Slade, Nick Batchelor and Tim Sheringham.
Do you guys think we'll be interested in Kingsley in the PSD?
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Anyone think Luke Brennan can turn it around?
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Ramps i always thought Brennan was going to be a good player but at the wrong club
maybe a new club will bring out his full potential wouldnt be the 1st time its happened to a recycled player
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Geelong has delisted Kent Kingsley as well as Matthew McCarthy, Paul Koulouriotis and rookies Will Slade, Nick Batchelor and Tim Sheringham.
Do you guys think we'll be interested in Kingsley in the PSD?
yep, down here in geelong word is that kingsley will def be a tiger next yr
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We should definitely look at Austin Lucy.
Tall, strong and very athletic.
Bit of a project type but could definitely play full back
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Anyone think Luke Brennan can turn it around?
Nup. As a midsized footballer you would have expected him at 21 y.o. to have come on by now given he went so early in the draft.
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Humm was a promoted rookie so he didn't take up a senior list spot. So with Staff, Chaff, Chubba, Rodan and Roach gone and Howat promoted unofficially that leaves 4 free spots on our senior list. If we want to use six picks (5 National + 1 PSD) then 2 more have to be delisted. If Richo as a vet is moved outside the senior list then just one more has to go. The latter would leave us with 4 rookie list spots.
Rumour has it that the one of those next to be delisted will be rookie listed if not picked up by another club.
But didn't we go one short on the senior list in 2006 ??? - that's why we were able to promote Humm without having a long term injury IIRC - so that's a spot, plus Staff, Chaff, Rodan and Roach - 5 by my count if we don't keep Howat on the senior list and out him bac on the rookie list then that's 6.
If we keep graham and Howat as rookies then we have 2 free rookie spaces
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We should definitely look at Austin Lucy.
Tall, strong and very athletic.
Bit of a project type but could definitely play full back
Essendon wouldn't have got rid of him, and be prepared to pay out his 2007 contract, if he was worth getting. He'd need to prove himself next year at vfl/sanfl before you'd consider looking at him.
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Humm was a promoted rookie so he didn't take up a senior list spot. So with Staff, Chaff, Chubba, Rodan and Roach gone and Howat promoted unofficially that leaves 4 free spots on our senior list. If we want to use six picks (5 National + 1 PSD) then 2 more have to be delisted. If Richo as a vet is moved outside the senior list then just one more has to go. The latter would leave us with 4 rookie list spots.
Rumour has it that the one of those next to be delisted will be rookie listed if not picked up by another club.
But didn't we go one short on the senior list in 2006 ??? - that's why we were able to promote Humm without having a long term injury IIRC - so that's a spot, plus Staff, Chaff, Rodan and Roach - 5 by my count if we don't keep Howat on the senior list and out him bac on the rookie list then that's 6.
If we keep graham and Howat as rookies then we have 2 free rookie spaces
I've heard we were "one short" a number of times too WP but it doesn't make sense to me either ???. The AFL rules state that all clubs must fill every spot on their senior list. We had 38 + 1 outside veteran (Gas) in 2006. Unless they are counting the fact that Richo as a veteran could have gone outside the senior list too then we weren't one short. I thought Humm came in for Thursfield?
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I've heard we were "one short" a number of times too WP but it doesn't make sense to me either ???. The AFL rules state that all clubs must fill every spot on their senior list. We had 38 + 1 outside veteran (Gas) in 2006. Unless they are counting the fact that Richo as a veteran could have gone outside the senior list too then we weren't one short. I thought Humm came in for Thursfield?
:lol who knows them - I am confused ;D
All will be revealed on Tuesday I guess when we have to do the 1st list lodgement :-\ ;D
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Both Jason and Cameron Cloke have been given the flick from the Pies. Scotty Burns said as much last night on SEN when asked about them and both weren't at the Pies training session yesterday.
McPhee have re-signed for 3-years :o with the Bombers so that's one less option in the PSD.
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Now the 1st lot of de-listings are through - I reckon we defintely look at someone in the PSD
Go for 5 in the National Draf tand save 1 for the pre-season
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You're correct WP. We now have 6 spots to fill on our senior list so we'll have at least one PSD pick.
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Yeah, it seems pretty clear they'll use pick 74 in the draft, and then pick up someone in the PSD, possibly a surprise experienced player.
I'm glad they'll have the 6 picks.
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Every clubs' delistings are here:
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=305271
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Heard some bloke on SEN while driving home say that Jason Cloke is training with Richmond at the moment :gobdrop :nope please NO :pray :'(
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What are peoples thoughts on Julian Rowe?
I thought he showed a little bit a couple of years ago.
Seems to have gone AWOL.
I think Kent Kingsley could be a good option for a year or two.
Wouldnt get the best backmen with Richo, Brown and Petts also playing forward.
Should be able to tear up a 3rd or 4th defender. Kingsley @ FF Brown in a pocket
Petts at Half Forward and Richo CHF.
Would also allow Sarge to play back when required and add that little bit of depth.
Creating more competition for players like Hall, Sarge, Polak, Kingsley(if drafted), Patto, Hughes
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In regards to Kingsley, any player that can kick 8 goals in a game can obviously play, worth a chance
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I personally reckon we should look at Trav Gaspar.
May be injury proned but plenty of unfilfilled talent that Wallace and co might be able to unlock a la Paddy Bowden
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Heard some bloke on SEN while driving home say that Jason Cloke is training with Richmond at the moment :gobdrop :nope please NO :pray :'(
I hope that's BS :help. Cloke was only useful as a loose man in defence. Once opposition coaches made him accountable to a man he got spanked week in week out. One of the few recruiting decisions Spud and Beck actually got right.
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What are peoples thoughts on Julian Rowe?
I thought he showed a little bit a couple of years ago.
Seems to have gone AWOL.
Not saying we should pick Rowe up as he's just an average footballer but yeah I was surprised too Bully to see the Pies had delisted him. I didn't think he was one of their worse in the games I saw him play. Plenty of other overrated duds at Collingwood :yep.
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Richmond were close to drafting Rowe 2 years ago, apparently. He had a good first year. I don't know what happened to him this year.
Kingsley might be a short-term option. It may depend on how much we'd have to pay him.
Gaspar - you'd want to know that he was over his injury troubles. Too risky, IMO.
I wonder if they're still interested in Jeremy Clayton, and whether he's also keen to re-start.
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My preference is not to take a discard from another side, history has shown just how few of them go on to be decent selections. However if we were to pick someone up, I would be looking at addressing some areas where we are perhaps a bit light on, such as rucks and key defenders. I will probably get shot down, but if his shoulders are found to be ok, Cameron Cloke could be cheap insurance as a backup ruck/tall. Also Nick Smith may be worth looking at, was a junior defender, still very young. I'm not really interested in anyone over 25.
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I wonder if they're still interested in Jeremy Clayton, and whether he's also keen to re-start.
Clayton will probably be on a AFL list next year but it's going to be difficult for us to get him now. I've heard Port are now keen on drafting him.
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My preference is not to take a discard from another side, history has shown just how few of them go on to be decent selections.
We did the right thing last year picking up Matty White. As you say Jezza, very few decent recycled players end up in the PSD.
2006
1 Dylan McLaren
2 Sam Iles
3 Brent Guerra
4 Scott Camporeale
5 Matthew White - Richmond
6 Ben Fixter
7 Cameron Thurley (delisted)
8 Matt Thomas
9 Jason Porplyzia
10 Chris Heffernan
2005
1 Trent Knobel - Richmond
2 Blake Caracella (retired - neck injury)
3 Eddie Betts
4 Lance Picioane (delisted)
5 Jarrad Schofield (retired)
6 Ty Zantuck (delisted)
7 Elijah Ware (delisted)
2004
1 Jade Rawlings (retired)
2 Nick Stevens
3 Phillip Read (delisted)
4 Ben Marsh (delisted) - Richmond :banghead
5 Paul Koulouriotis (delisted)
6 Shane Harvey (delisted)
7 Doug Scott (delisted)
8 Michael Johnson :-\
9 Pass
10 Jacob Surjan
11 Luke Weller (delisted) - Richmond
12 Josh Mahoney
2003
1 Stephen Powell (retired)
2 Pass - Richmond
3 Craig Bolton
4 Brent Moloney
5 Guy Rigoni (delisted)
6 Pass
7 Luke Mullins (delisted)
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With Lucy he may be a risk but at the very least deserves a rookie spot.
Was very highly rated last year and has the tools.
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It seems the rumour over the past one or two months about Kingsley ending up a Tiger is growing.
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We have no delisted AFL players training with us. At least we know now there's no Clokes near Punt Rd :thumbsup.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=305631
Btw, I heard there are a few Coburg boys that are training with us. Does anyone here know who they are?
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Btw, I heard there are a few Coburg boys that are training with us. Does anyone here know who they are?
Whispers I've heard say the Coburg boys are:
(actually Brian Royal named them at Club80 the other week :rollin)
Jake King :clapping
Sam Robertson (as Jack mentioned earlier in the week)
Nick Carnell
Shaun Huy
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Btw, I heard there are a few Coburg boys that are training with us. Does anyone here know who they are?
Whispers I've heard say the Coburg boys are:
Jake King :clapping
Sam Robertson (as Jack mentioned earlier in the week)
Nick Carnell
Shaun Huy
Thanks WP :cheers
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We have no delisted AFL players training with us. At least we know now there's no Clokes near Punt Rd :thumbsup.
In this game you play your cards close to your chest 8)
You do not let the opposition know who you are interested in :thumbsup
you train them secretly away at another venue :shh
It's CLOKE and dagger stuff if you know what I mean ;D
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In this game you play your cards close to your chest 8)
You do not let the opposition know who you are interested in :thumbsup
you train them secretly away at another venue :shh
It's CLOKE and dagger stuff if you know what I mean ;D
Don't do it Richmond :help
Even if secretly hidden away they still are both duds ;D.
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In this game you play your cards close to your chest 8)
You do not let the opposition know who you are interested in :thumbsup
you train them secretly away at another venue :shh
It's CLOKE and dagger stuff if you know what I mean ;D
Don't do it Richmond :help
Even if secretly hidden away they still are both duds ;D.
Remember the wartime slogan"loose lips sink ships" :thumbsup
Remember the John Coleman incident :(
We don't want to miss out on a wonderful opportunity to recruit well again :banghead
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In this game you play your cards close to your chest 8)
You do not let the opposition know who you are interested in :thumbsup
you train them secretly away at another venue :shh
It's CLOKE and dagger stuff if you know what I mean ;D
Don't do it Richmond :help
Even if secretly hidden away they still are both duds ;D.
Remember the wartime slogan"loose lips sink ships" :thumbsup
Remember the John Coleman incident :(
We don't want to miss out on a wonderful opportunity to recruit well again :banghead
Just like Shane Morrison starring at Richmond because the "only" reason he was not getting a game at the Lions was because of Jonathan Brown :scream.
If the RFC is a ship, the two eldest Clokes are more like icebergs ;D.
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Speaking of ex-Tigers, I read on BF that according to SEN Zantuck is training with Carlton. A perfect match lol.
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Speaking of ex-Tigers, I read on BF that according to SEN Zantuck is training with Carlton. A perfect match lol.
Yep it's true showed him on the Channel 7 news (or was it ch 10 :P) - he will fit right in down there with Fev as a mentor :clapping
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As mentioned by Miller today, Kingsley is training with us.
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Kent Kingsley An Option For Richmond
aflinsider.net
November 8th 2006 04:51
Former Geelong full forward Kent Kingsley may have found a new team. The Tigers will have Kingsley training with them and he could be an option for Richmond in one of the drafts.
Kingsley averaged 49 goals per year from season 2002 to 2005. In 2006 his total from 9 AFL games was 10 goals. He also played 12 games for Geelong's VFL side and kicked 39 goals.
While a lot of people will wonder why Richmond would consider an older player like Kingsley, it does make sense in some aspects of it. Richardson has always been a forward who often finds himself on the wing, he gets the ball on one of his long leads and sometimes doesn't have many options to kick to in the forward area. In the past his team has been successful with another full forward playing with him. The Tigers do have some young players who may be able to fill this role but for next year Kingsley might be a better option. Richardson kicked 45 goals in 2006, Pettifer had 31 and Simmonds 25. The Tigers also lose Stafford's 15 goals. A player who is a proven goalkicker is something that Richmond needs.
Another reason why Kingsley is a reasonable option is the price, both in salary and draft picks. Kingsley would not be expecting a big contract, and Richmond would not offer one anyway, while the price to acquire him would be a preseason pick or maybe pick 60 in the AFL National Draft.
Richmond probably don't draft Kingsley, but if they do it will be a low-cost, short-term deal that might provide the Tigers with a few more goals and a push into the finals.
http://www.aflinsider.net/kent-kingsley-an-option-for-richmond/
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A player who is a proven goalkicker is something that Richmond needs.
What we need more is to get game time into young players. That’s what the next two seasons should be about.
Young players I can be patient about, not Kent Kingsley. Haven’t we had enough of this type?
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Latest Permission to Train List
From footygoss.com
Posted Nov 09, 2006 - 15:12 PM
Richmond
Nick Carnell, Coburg;
Shaun Huy, Coburg;
Jake King, Coburg;
Sam Robertson, Coburg
Kent Kingsley, Geelong;
Dean Limbach, Richmond;
James Podsiadly, Werribee;
Rodan is training with the Bombers.
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If Limbach is still training with us I guess he is a strong chance of being picked up as a rookie.
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Here's the full list of unlisted players training at AFL clubs. No Kellaway or Roach listed out of curiosity.
Latest Permission to Train List
footygoss.com
Posted Nov 09, 2006 - 15:12 PM
Brisbane Lions – Timothy Brown, Geelong Falcons; Leonard Clark, Brisbane Lions Rookie; Will Hamill, Brisbane Lions Rookie
Carlton – Ross Young, Northern Bullants; Ty Zantuck, Zillmere Eagles
Collingwood - Martin Clarke, County Down Ireland
Essendon – Matthew Firman, Essendon; Ben Jolley, Essendon; Justin Maddern, Bendigo Bombers; Tim O’Keefe, Essendon; David Rodan, Richmond
Geelong – Adam Iacobucci, Collingwood; Joel Reynolds, Essendon
Hawthorn - Troy Armstrong, Box Hill Hawks; Marcus Crook, Box Hill Hawks; Sam Gibson, Box Hill Hawks; Pat Hassett, Box Hill Hawks; John Holmes, Box Hill Hawks; Cameron Hunter, Box Hill Hawks; Brad Kelleher, Box Hill Hawks; David Marcius, Box Hill Hawks; Cameron Pedersen, Box Hill Hawks; Tom Pollett, Box Hill Hawks; Matthew Foster, Glenelg; Jonathon Wynne, Norwood; Tristan Cartledge, Essendon; Ben Kane, Hawthorn; Luke Brennan, Hawthorn; Josh Thurgood, Hawthorn; Stefan Garrubba, Sydney Swans
Kangaroos - Ian Callinan, Tasmania VFL; Aaron Edwards, Frankston
Port Adelaide – Nick Batchelor, Geelong; Bryce Campbell, Norwood; Adam Cockshell, Norwood; James Ezard, Port Adelaide; Brad Geddes, Eagles (SA); Nick Gill, North Adelaide; Matthew Graham, Glenelg; Kyle Jenner, Port Magpies; Jack Juniper, Fremantle; Brodie Lomas, Eagles (SA); Harry Miller, Hawthorn; Adam Pepe Port Magpies; Tom Rischbieth, Port Adelaide; Hayden Skipworth, Adelaide; Josh Willoughby, Sydney Swans
Richmond – Nick Carnell, Coburg; Shaun Huy, Coburg; Jake King, Coburg; Kent Kingsley, Coburg; Dean Limbach, Richmond; James Podsiadly, Werribee; Sam Robertson, Coburg
West Coast – Ben Sharp, West Perth; Brad Smith, Subiaco; Ashley Thornton, Peel Thunder; Beau Wilkes, Claremont
Western Bulldogs - James Allan, Werribee; Robert Castello, Werribee; Brett Robinson, Werribee; Wayde Twomey, Werribee; Samuel Wormald, Werribee; Jarrod Young, Werribee
http://www.footygoss.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=31231&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0&POSTNUKESID=79118419981664bdb50f6ce661899bf4
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Is Kellaway training anywhere?
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Is Kellaway training anywhere?
I think he's training by himself LT. That's what he said when he was interviewed a week or so ago. It didn't sound as if he had a particular club interested in drafting him though.
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Tommy Roach is training with the Saints as is Coburg's Alister Neville.
From footygoss.com:
St Kilda - Cathal Corr, St Kilda; Chais Dunne, Casey Scorpions; Matthew Ferguson, St Kilda; Ben Fraser, Casey Scorpions; Ed McDonnell, St Kilda; Alister Neville, Coburg; Tom Roach, Richmond; James Tyquin, St Bedes Mentone; Luke Van Rheenan, Scoresby
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Delistings just reported on SEN:
Tristen Walker (Collingwood)
Anthony Corrie (Brisbane)
Aaron Henneman (Essendon)
Troy Schwarze (St Kilda)
Michael West (Bulldogs)
Brent LeCras (Kangaroos)
Joel Perry (Kangaroos)
Ben Schwarze (Kangaroos)
Tom Lonegan (Geelong) - although promised a rookie spot
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Gee that Anthony Corrie is a good player.
Did something happen with him that i cant recall?
Did he go off the rails?
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Delistings just reported on SEN:
Troy Schwarze (St Kilda)
Ben Schwarze (Kangaroos)
Certainly not a good week for the brothers Schwarze ;D
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Gee that Anthony Corrie is a good player.
Did something happen with him that i cant recall?
Did he go off the rails?
He did his knee pretty badly.
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Tim Notting goes alright.
A hell of alot better than Tivendale.
27yoa, 150+ games,
Notting and Copeland are still out of contract apparently.
Any interest from us here?
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Is us picking Kingsley up in the PSD now a foregone conclusion?
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Id prefer a kid i saw a list yesterday of the young kids who hadnt been selected theres still some quality around. Id like us to pick a kid.
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Is us picking Kingsley up in the PSD now a foregone conclusion?
I just don't know
I haven't seen any lists of young blokes still available, but by my calculations the following are still there for the taking, and worth a look:
Adams
Collier
Prismall
Sheringham
Grose
Jacobs
Some may be too young for the rookie list (eg Prismall). Grose will be gobbled up by brisbane for their rookie listing if not taken in the PSD.
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Is limbach still training with us ?
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Is limbach still training with us ?
As of last Friday - yep
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Id prefer a kid i saw a list yesterday of the young kids who hadnt been selected theres still some quality around. Id like us to pick a kid.
I'm with you there Ramps :thumbsup
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I haven't seen any lists of young blokes still available, but by my calculations the following are still there for the taking, and worth a look:
Adams
Collier
Prismall
Sheringham
Grose
Jacobs
Some may be too young for the rookie list (eg Prismall). Grose will be gobbled up by brisbane for their rookie listing if not taken in the PSD.
Lucky Brisbane :-\.
We've also got Tas Clingan, Limbach and a few Coburg boys training with us who would be in the mix.
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PSD order now after the National draft
ROUND 1
1. Carlton (Cain Ackland)
2. Essendon (Mal Michael)
3. Port Adelaide
4. Hawthorn
5. Richmond
6. St Kilda
7. Collingwood
ROUND 2
8. St Kilda
ROUND 3
9. St Kilda
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Going to be a few careers at AFL level coming to an end
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Now for the Rookie Draft
Mon 27 November, 2006
Matt Burgan
afl.com.au
Here are 10 names to watch out for in upcoming 12 December Rookie Draft
Leigh Adams: Prolific ball winner who captained Vic Metro in NAB AFL U18 Championships to title, winning All-Australian honours (averaging 24 disposals per match). Quick, tough, a fine leader and clever around goals. NAB MVP Player for Vic Metro at NAB AFL U18 championships. From Woori-Yallock F.C.
Nathan Batsanis: Small midfielder with good skills. Possesses a penetrating kick. Oakleigh Chargers best and fairest for 2006 completing an outstanding year which included representing Vic Metro in U18 Championships and selection in the TAC Cup Team of the Year.
Daniel Dzufer: Left footed midfielder/forward who is good overhead and smart around goal. Won McLean medal (Division two - U16s) in 2004 and All-Australian U18 honours this year. AIS/AFL Academy graduate.
Gavin Grose: Rebounding full-back with plenty of dash and excellent left foot kick. Queensland U18 representative in 2006 and impressive for U18 Allies.
Tom Hurley: Small midfielder who is a genuine ball winner. Captain of South Australian U18 team at NAB AFL U18 championships. Played 16 league games for Sturt in the SANFL in 2006.
Sam Jacobs: Developing ruckman who progressed to senior level football in SA this year and was a state U18 representative. Sound in the air and has a good awareness and football sense. From Adrossan F.C.
Alex Lee: Naturally athletic, versatile player who has had a frustrating run with injuries this year curtailing his development. AIS/AFL Academy Graduate.
Haydyn Kiel: Run with type who can play as a small forward or ball winning midfielder. Hard at the ball and well balanced. QLD U18 representative in 2005/2006.
Chris Smith: Enthusiastic and versatile type who made an impact in NAB AFL U18 Championships as a medium forward on the lead. Can also played midfield or defence.
Nick Smith: Left footed, courageous player who wins plenty of the football. Athletic and versatile player who makes good decisions. Vic Metro U18 representative in 2006. From Scotch College.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=307816
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Possible PSD picks... ?
1. Carlton - Cain Ackland
2. Essendon - Mal Michael
3. Port Adelaide - Harry Miller (Haw)?
4. Hawthorn - Tristian Cartledge (Ess)? He's training with the Hawks.
5. Richmond - Kent Kingsley
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The 4 players below will all be available to Brisbane prior to the actual rookie draft
Daniel Dzufer: Left footed midfielder/forward who is good overhead and smart around goal. Won McLean medal (Division two - U16s) in 2004 and All-Australian U18 honours this year. AIS/AFL Academy graduate.
Gavin Grose: Rebounding full-back with plenty of dash and excellent left foot kick. Queensland U18 representative in 2006 and impressive for U18 Allies.
[Haydyn Kiel: Run with type who can play as a small forward or ball winning midfielder. Hard at the ball and well balanced. QLD U18 representative in 2005/2006.
Chris Smith: Enthusiastic and versatile type who made an impact in NAB AFL U18 Championships as a medium forward on the lead. Can also played midfield or defence.
[bhttp://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=307816
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Going to be a few careers at AFL level coming to an end
Chubba could still end up a Saint given they have 3 picks plus there defensive holes.
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Grose, Prismall, R.Anderson and Prismall should all be looked at. Plenty of talent left.
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Now we've got Riewoldt, Sarge and Clever as young key forwards, I'd rather us pick up Grose in the PSD than Kingsley.
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THE PRE-SEASON DRAFT SCENARIOS
Stephen Rielly
The Age
November 28, 2006
CARLTON: Committed first pick to ruckman Cain Ackland and will make a second selection in wake of 11th-hour departure of Chris Bryan.
COLLINGWOOD: One selection, likely to be used on Bryan, who has been made a two-year offer.
ESSENDON: Committed only pick available to former Lion Mal Michael.
HAWTHORN: Has one pick which, a month ago, was being set aside for Carlton full-back Bret Thornton.
KANGAROOS: Likely. One further change to the list may be made that will give the Kangaroos the first live pick in the draft. Carlton and Essendon before them have already made their selections.
PORT ADELAIDE: One selection to make and has invited ex-Saint Troy Schwarze, among others, to train at the club.
RICHMOND: Chose not to use last pick in the national draft to keep options open. Has interest in former Cat Kent Kingsley.
ST KILDA: Has up to three vacancies on its list but seems certain to select no more than two players, the final number depending on salary-cap considerations. Interest in ruckmen including Clark Keating and Tristan Cartledge.
OUT: Adelaide, Brisbane Lions, Fremantle, Geelong, Melbourne, Sydney, West Coast, Western Bulldogs.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/11/27/1164476135381.html
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There is a rumour that Perry is training at the Tigers at the moment. Can anyone attending training tomorrow find out?
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Tigers yet to decide PSD direction
4:52:28 PM Wed 29 November, 2006
Angus Morgan
richmondfc.com.au
Richmond coach Terry Wallace is reluctant to reveal whether the Tigers will opt for youth or experience in the upcoming pre-season draft, preferring to declare that the club will choose the best player available with its single selection.
Kingsley is the highest profile player of that group, but according to Wallace, neither he nor the others have been made any promises.
"We won’t bring them in unless we're considering them, but that won’t give him any more right of way than anyone else that's in a delisted position at this point in time," Wallace said.
"We're not in a hurry to make the decision. Obviously we're monitoring players that are training at other clubs as well.
"If someone jumps out and is a standout, we're in this for the long-term regardless and we'll pick what we believe is the best player for the Richmond Football Club."
Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=308177
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From the Age:
Wallace is set to add one more player to the Tigers' senior list in the December 12 pre-season draft, but is uncertain whether he will go for youth or experience.
The Tigers drafted three forwards among the five youngsters claimed in last weekend's national draft, lessening the prospects for ex-Geelong forward Kent Kingsley to be picked up.
Richmond sprung a surprise last year by taking youngster Matthew White in the pre-season draft - a move Wallace is considering again this year.
The Tigers have brought in six undrafted youngsters to join Kingsley and perennial VFL goalkicker James Podsiadly, who are also training with the Tigers in the hope of being drafted.
"We don't bring them in unless we're considering them," Wallace said.
"Last year we brought in Matt White ... and he shone over that two-week period and we said we can't afford to lose him, so we ended up drafting him in the main draft."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Richmonds-Brown-underestimated-injury/2006/11/29/1164777650366.html
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The Hawks have put a limit of 23 years of age on their PSD recruit so they won't be after Kingsley.
The Tigers have brought in six undrafted youngsters to join Kingsley and perennial VFL goalkicker James Podsiadly, who are also training with the Tigers in the hope of being drafted.
Does anyone know who the 6th youngster is?
Dean Limbach
Nick Carnell, Coburg;
Shaun Huy, Coburg;
Jake King, Coburg;
Sam Robertson, Coburg;
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I think Tas Clingan was only down for last week. Rumours on BF have it that Batsanis is training with us but the AFL site apparently has him training with the Hawks. Also heard that Zac Millar is now down at RFC training ???
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Does anyone know who the 6th youngster is?
Dean Limbach
Nick Carnell, Coburg;
Shaun Huy, Coburg;
Jake King, Coburg;
Sam Robertson, Coburg;
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It seems Sammy & Nick are back at Coburg going by the AFL site:
Richmond –
Zac Hier, Woodville West Torrens;
Shaun Huy, Coburg;
Jake King, Coburg;
Kent Kingsley, Geelong;
Dean Limbach, Richmond
Full article/list
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=308182
BTW Only lists 5 not 6 :-\
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Just did some reading on Zac Hier, 18, 190cm 88kg. Plays as a 3rd defender, according to reports, very composed, debuted this season for WWT. Good reports around the place and put some decent players out of business in games. Hes the smoky, but hes a chance- stats remind me of Thursfield. So who knows- anyone else have any more.
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Just one person's opinion but this was on a AFL site blog about Zac Hier:
Phill - 2/11/2006 10:49:00 AM
get this bloke first one of the best yound defenders I have seen for a long time. Zac Hier (WWT)unbeaten against top forwards in the games he played this year. He has everything but needs to improve on his kicking, as tuff as they come.
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=306764
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Richmond –
Zac Hier, Woodville West Torrens;
Shaun Huy, Coburg;
Jake King, Coburg;
Kent Kingsley, Geelong;
Dean Limbach, Richmond
BTW Only lists 5 not 6 :-\
No Podsiadly in that list either. Looks like drafting Riewoldt has put Pods out of our plans.
The Age had 6 young guys apart from Kingsley training with us so if they are right then there are two others ???
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According to BF, Nick Georgiadis is training with us now. 19 year old 180cm HFF from the Western Jets who has pace.
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Hes greek, he'll be a success lol.
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Hes greek, he'll be a success lol.
Ramps you remind me of a Greek kid I went to school with. He could rattle off every VFL player at the time who was Greek.
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pmsl...nah gotta say ive not seen the kid play at all, wouldnt know what he looks like but as a fellow australian hellene I thought id stick my nose in the clubs business and give the kid my support lol ;D
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The Roos have delisted Tim Hutchison so they can participate in the PSD. So we drop back to pick 6.
1. Carlton (Cain Ackland)
2. Essendon (Mal Michael)
3. Kangaroos
4. Port Adelaide
5. Hawthorn
6. Richmond
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A West Aussie poster on BF mentioned that the Tiges are one of 5 clubs showing interest in Dan Chartres (20 y.o., 194cm, utility/key defender) from Peel Thunder.
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he was mentioned several months ago- so it sounds about right.
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PSD possibilities around the traps.....
1. Carlton - C.Ackland
2. Essendon - M.Michael
3. Kangaroos - L.Adams
4. Port Adelaide - H.Miller, A.Kellaway or B.Hart
5. Hawthorn - T.Cartledge
6. Richmond - K.Kingsley
7. St.Kilda - M.Clarke
8. Collingwood - C.Bryan
9. Carlton - Jason or Cameron Cloke
10. St.Kilda - Pass
11. St.Kilda - Pass
Wonder if Chubba will get picked up.
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Tiges undecided on Kingsley
8:04:23 AM Tue 5 December, 2006
Jennifer Witham
Sportal for afl.com.au
The Tigers are far from decided on whether to take former Cat Kent Kingsley in the upcoming pre-season draft and will continue to look at the other options available before December 12.
While Kingsley has been training with the Tigers for almost a month, coach Terry Wallace said the club might yet move to recruit a different former player currently training at a rival club.
Full article:
http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=308753
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"(Kingsley) is training with us but really what you do at this stage is you have a look at the whole list of who's available, not only those training at your club but those training at other clubs as well," Wallace said on SEN on Tuesday morning.
Among other second-hand players currently training with rival clubs are Anthony Corrie, Ty Zantuck, Adam Iacobucci, Joel Reynolds, Luke Brennan, Tristan Cartledge, Ben Kane, Will Slade, Josh Thurgood, Joel Perry, Andrew Ericksen, Nick Batchelor, James Ezard, Harry Miller, Tom Rischbieth, Hayden Skipworth, Josh Willoughby, Jayden Attard, Tom Roach, Matthew Davis, Earl Shaw and Michael West.
Plough must mean untried youngsters as there's no one there we'd want.
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Possible Picks For AFL Preseason Draft
aflinsider.net
December 7th 2006 01:07
1 Carlton: C Ackland
2 Essendon: M Michael
3 Kangaroos: H Skipworth
4 Port Adelaide: T Hurley
5 Hawthorn: B Ross
6 Richmond: N Batsanis
7 St. Kilda: C Keating
8 Collingwood: C Bryan
9 Carlton: T Cartledge
10 St. Kilda: B Hart
11 St. Kilda: T Roach
Richmond may take Kingsley with their pick, or opt for another young midfielder. But if Clarke really does nominate for the preseason draft then Richmond might take him. Not just to annoy the Saints, although that might be one result, but Clarke would fill some of Stafford's role and Clarke was originally a Richmond player at the start of his career.
http://www.aflinsider.net/possible-picks-for-afl-preseason-draft/
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I have a hunch that dean limbach will be taken by Geelong in the rookie draft, whether we've decided to select him or not.Why?
1. Wheadon is now at Geelong, and he was a big fan of Limbach's eg he once compared him to a young Matthew Lloyd.
2.Geelong are always on the look-out for tall forwards, even though they've picked up Hawkins, and will re-select Lonergan.
3. Geelong's picks in the rookie draft are immediately before ours.
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From the AFL site:
Players to nominate for the draft on Friday besides (Cain) Ackland, (Matthew) Clarke and (Mal) Michael were Chris Bryan (Carlton), Anthony Corrie (Brisbane Lions), Ben Eckermann (Port Adelaide), Tim Hutchison (Kangaroos), Kent Kingsley (Geelong), Tom Lonergan (Geelong) and Brad Murphy (Western Bulldogs).
This is in addition to the delisted players that were overlooked in the recent NAB AFL draft, a list that includes Adelaide veteran Ben Hart, ex-Tiger Andrew Kellaway and Collingwood's Cloke brothers - Cameron and Jason.
Richmond is expected to select ex-Kangaroos and Geelong forward Kingsley at pick six
http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=309368
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1. Wheadon is now at Geelong, and he was a big fan of Limbach's eg he once compared him to a young Matthew Lloyd.
Wheadon would spend heaps of one-on-one time with Limbach working on his goalkicking at training. So you're spot on there GB.
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Ty is off to Princes Park apparently. Some clubs just never learn :rollin.
The Blues have already committed to ex-Saint Cain Ackland with the No. 1 pick and are likely to give former Richmond player Ty Zantuck another chance at No. 9.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20896363%255E20322,00.html
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Well I bagged Pat Bowden (Still to prove me wrong but doing ok so far), so I will also bag Kingsley.
Hopefully this makes him a good player also - but I doubt it. That's if we pick hi of course.
Don't know why, just have a funny feeling Limbach may bite us on the arse 3 or 4 years down the track :-\
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A quote from BF:
Richmond will use their pick for Jak Kennedy-Hunt.. he has been bragging that he will be selected in the pre-season becasue 'Richmond have already said so'.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6370553&postcount=112
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Here's some info on Kennedy-Hunt btw:
(http://geelongfalcons.footballvic.com.au/_content/image/00072603-image.jpg)
Club: Geelong Falcons
Recruited from: St Josephs FC
D.O.B: 12/10/1988
Height :183.8cm
Weight: 78.6kg
TAC Cup Stats:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/nf/team_info.cgi?player=Jak%20Kennedy-Hunt&action=PSTATS&pID=86107053&client=1-3020-0-40212-4413269
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Does anyone know if SEN is covering the PSD and rookie drafts or do we have to rely on the AFL site :-\ ?
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are we doing a big analysis tomorrow lol
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are we doing a big analysis tomorrow lol
You mean this type of in-depth analysis Ramps? ..... why did we pick up this Geelong DUD! Why did we rookie someone we delisted = DUD! Why did we pick up a VFL player = DUD! lol
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are we doing a big analysis tomorrow lol
You mean this type of in-depth analysis Ramps? ..... why did we pick up this Geelong DUD! Why did we rookie someone we delisted = DUD! Why did we pick up a VFL player = DUD! lol
That would be classified as concise analysis. :lol
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are we doing a big analysis tomorrow lol
You mean this type of in-depth analysis Ramps? ..... why did we pick up this Geelong DUD! Why did we rookie someone we delisted = DUD! Why did we pick up a VFL player = DUD! lol
Ummmmm YEP ;D
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Sounds good to me :rollin
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Does anyone know what was going on at Punt Rd tonight around 7.30? Seemed to be a fair few people training on the oval but they didn't look like cricketers. Not sure if it had anything to do with the rookie draft tomorrow.
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The Age's possible selections for the PSD:
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
10am today - AFL HOUSE
1. Carlton - Cain Ackland* (ex-St K)
2. Essendon - Mal Michael* (BL)
3. Kangaroos - Hayden Skipworth (Adel)
4. Port Adelaide - Troy Schwarze (St K)
5. Hawthorn - Tristan Cartledge (Ess)
6. Richmond - Kent Kingsley (Geel)
7. St Kilda - Matthew Clarke (Adel)
8. Collingwood - Chris Bryan (Carl)
9. Carlton - Cameron Cloke (Coll)
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/12/11/1165685619567.html
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Does anyone know what was going on at Punt Rd tonight around 7.30? Seemed to be a fair few people training on the oval but they didn't look like cricketers. Not sure if it had anything to do with the rookie draft tomorrow.
That would be Coburg training MT :thumbsup
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Does anyone know what was going on at Punt Rd tonight around 7.30? Seemed to be a fair few people training on the oval but they didn't look like cricketers. Not sure if it had anything to do with the rookie draft tomorrow.
That would be Coburg training MT :thumbsup
Cheers WP :cheers. They looked to athletic for cricketers :shh lol.
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Kingsley is offically a Tiger
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Good luck to him, hope he can turn around his patchy form and be a handy contributer.
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Full 2006 PSD:
1. Carlton - Cain Ackland
2. Essendon - Mal Michael
3. Kangaroos - Ben Ross
4. Port Adelaide - Adam Cockshell
5. Hawthorn - Josh Thurgood
6. Richmond - Kent Kingsley
7. St Kilda - Matthew Clarke
8. Collingwood - Chris Bryan
9. Carlton - Cameron Cloke
No Chubba.
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Is this the time we put the boots in? ;D
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Is this the time we put the boots in? ;D
Into other clubs yes lol.
The Saints picking up Clarke and not expecting him to take marks around the ground. Why did they get rid of Knobel then?! :wallywink
Hawks redrafting Thurgood - doh! :rollin
Carlton picking up a dud Cloke.
Good luck to Kingsley and welcome to Tigerland :clapping. The number 10 guernsey is his.
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Good luck to Kingsley and welcome to Tigerland :clapping. The number 10 guernsey is his.
What about No. 18 ;D
Absolutely no surprise with this selection.
I have no problem with it, can actually see the logic behind it - 3 forward option for Kent usually means he bags a few goals.
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With Kingsley now coming into the team I believe we now have a good balance of youth and experience. I think he will be a better contributor than some other mature types we have picked up in the past.(Marsh, Hudson, fleming, king, Houlidud...Need I go on??) Has a good lead and can take a strong mark when his confidence is up. Might be a good foil for Richo How could anyone have been confident at the cattery last season. Our potential forward setup for next season could really stretch some opposition backlines. I'm excited! :thumbsup
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I'm happy we've got Kingsley - I think it will be another Mark Graham situation, except hopefully we'll get more than a year out of Kent.
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Was going to unleash on this decision, but it does make sense for 1 year.
Get another leading tall into the forward line, release Richo to CHF, take a defender from Brown's area, and allow Cleve & McGuane an extra year to develop at Coburg where they can be brought in for a 2 to 3 game taste at intervals.
I have always maintained that a final is worth 10 H&A games, and with the addition to Kingsley more likely to result in an additional 30 to 40 goals next year, finals are the real aim.
Imagine Lids & Bling injury free in their 1st final :shh
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Looks like Ty didn't get picked up by Carlton :wallywink
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At 28 and 50 goals in 3 of the past 5 years if what SEN said was right Kingsley's not a complete hack. The question will be whether he and Richo can function in the same forward line together without getting in the way of each other. Kingsley's more your ordinary leading from the goalsquare forward while Richo is... well... Richo lol. Expect the unexpected. If they can click then with a fully fit Browny back and Petts with a 3rd or 4th defender and Simmo pushing forward we coud have a very dangerous forward line if the midfield can give all them enough decent footy.
I bet one game next year though we'll kick 20 behinds with that lot lol :shh.
Looks like Ty didn't get picked up by Carlton :wallywink
It must have been a hard choice for them between Ty and Cam Cloke. Do they take the dud or the dud :rollin.