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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 15, 2008, 04:37:46 PM
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Adam Thompson of Port has asked to be traded after limited opportunity.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494303
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Adam Thompson of Port has asked to be traded after limited opportunity.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494303
I hope we already know about this. Could be a bargain buy if we play our cards right. Tough as nails and would bring real tackling ability to the team.
At least worth enquiring about imo.
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Adam Thompson of Port has asked to be traded after limited opportunity.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494303
I hope we already know about this. Could be a bargain buy if we play our cards right. Tough as nails and would bring real tackling ability to the team.
At least worth enquiring about imo.
Ive raised the Issue of Thomson plenty times before on the forum, my opinion is that I think that whilst his kicking isnt the best (this was the big issue raised against him being sought by other posters), that he could be turned into a very very decent run with/tagger type player. As you said, tough as nails, good tackling ability, good pace for a run with player. Also would bring in another in and under option.
Id have Thomson in before blokes like King and afew others who are currently on our list.
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Pass. Modern footy is a good kicking skills game especially under pressure. We don't need anymore dud kicks. If you couldn't get a game at Port this year there's something wrong.
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Midfielder keen to leave Port
Michael Gleeson | September 16, 2008
PORT ADELAIDE midfielder Adam Thomson has told the Power he wants to be traded, most likely to Victoria, and several clubs are interested in the uncontracted former first-round draft pick.
After managing only seven games in Port’s horrid year, Thomson, taken with pick 11 in the 2004 national draft, has said he wants out.
‘‘We are pretty disappointed because we have put a fair bit of work into him since taking him as a firstround draft pick,’’ Port football manager Peter Rohde said.
‘‘We have rated him but he just hasn’t been able to get much of a go because, even though we did not win a lot of games this year, our midfield has actually been quite strong, with (Steven) Salopek and (Travis) Boak having really good years and then the Burgoynes (Peter and Shaun). He has not been delisted. He has asked to be traded and I would imagine he will get a contract again with us if a trade does not work out.
‘‘We would be reluctant to lose him but he is out of contract and wants a trade, so we are not in a strong position to do much about it.’’
Rohde said discussions would be held with several clubs later in the week.
Geelong small forward Shannon Byrnes is out of contract but as yet has not declared whether he wishes to consider a move.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/midfielder-keen-to-leave-port/2008/09/15/1221330747367.html
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Pass. Modern footy is a good kicking skills game especially under pressure. We don't need anymore dud kicks. If you couldn't get a game at Port this year there's something wrong.
Mitch Morton wasn't getting a game at West Coast
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Adam Thomson should get a job on the docks....
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Thank goodness Mundy stayed at Freo. Stops us from doing anything silly like trading a good pick for a player type we already have too many of.
LOL at the Bombers wanting a first round pick in return for Lovett. Talk about dreaming.
Pass. Modern footy is a good kicking skills game especially under pressure. We don't need anymore dud kicks. If you couldn't get a game at Port this year there's something wrong.
Mitch Morton wasn't getting a game at West Coast
True Gracie but Mitch was always a good kick :thumbsup. Thomson is a goer but can't kick. Think of a slower version of Jake King. Other clubs will be very interested but we shouldn't be IMO.
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Thank goodness Mundy stayed at Freo. Stops us from doing anything silly like trading a good pick for a player type we already have too many of.
LOL at the Bombers wanting a first round pick in return for Lovett. Talk about dreaming.
Pass. Modern footy is a good kicking skills game especially under pressure. We don't need anymore dud kicks. If you couldn't get a game at Port this year there's something wrong.
Mitch Morton wasn't getting a game at West Coast
True Gracie but Mitch was always a good kick :thumbsup. Thomson is a goer but can't kick. Think of a slower version of Jake King. Other clubs will be very interested but we shouldn't be IMO.
What are you basing the cant kick claim on? The Port websites I read said little about any kicking deficiency, they did mention the pace issue. They also talked about how good an in and under player he is and he has strong abilty to extract the ball. No 1 in clearances in the AFL for time on ground
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Thank goodness Mundy stayed at Freo. Stops us from doing anything silly like trading a good pick for a player type we already have too many of.
LOL at the Bombers wanting a first round pick in return for Lovett. Talk about dreaming.
Pass. Modern footy is a good kicking skills game especially under pressure. We don't need anymore dud kicks. If you couldn't get a game at Port this year there's something wrong.
Mitch Morton wasn't getting a game at West Coast
True Gracie but Mitch was always a good kick :thumbsup. Thomson is a goer but can't kick. Think of a slower version of Jake King. Other clubs will be very interested but we shouldn't be IMO.
What are you basing the cant kick claim on? The Port websites I read said little about any kicking deficiency, they did mention the pace issue. They also talked about how good an in and under player he is and he has strong abilty to extract the ball. No 1 in clearances in the AFL for time on ground
Port fans I know and from Port games I've seen him play in. He handballs almost twice as much than he kicks because of it.
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Thank goodness Mundy stayed at Freo. Stops us from doing anything silly like trading a good pick for a player type we already have too many of.
LOL at the Bombers wanting a first round pick in return for Lovett. Talk about dreaming.
Pass. Modern footy is a good kicking skills game especially under pressure. We don't need anymore dud kicks. If you couldn't get a game at Port this year there's something wrong.
Mitch Morton wasn't getting a game at West Coast
True Gracie but Mitch was always a good kick :thumbsup. Thomson is a goer but can't kick. Think of a slower version of Jake King. Other clubs will be very interested but we shouldn't be IMO.
What are you basing the cant kick claim on? The Port websites I read said little about any kicking deficiency, they did mention the pace issue. They also talked about how good an in and under player he is and he has strong abilty to extract the ball. No 1 in clearances in the AFL for time on ground
Port fans I know and from Port games I've seen him play in. He handballs almost twice as much than he kicks because of it.
Or does he handball twice as much as he kicks as he is on the ground getting the ball out???
I don't know I haven't seen him myself just relying on internet posts
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Port Adelaide midfielder Adam Thompson appears likely to be snapped up by Richmond after North Melbourne showed interest in the midfielder, who was originally a first-round selection, at No11 overall, in the 2004 national draft.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24443021-5012432,00.html
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Port Adelaide midfielder Adam Thompson appears likely to be snapped up by Richmond after North Melbourne showed interest in the midfielder, who was originally a first-round selection, at No11 overall, in the 2004 national draft.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24443021-5012432,00.html
I know people dont rate him but I feel he could be a good run with player/shut down type of player. He wont cost alot and Johnson is probably 12 months from retirement ... depending on the deal (pick 58) should just about do it.
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Dont think we need taggers with Jackson & Polo still in the side ????????????????????????
4th round pick only nothing more.
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Dont think we need taggers with Jackson & Polo still in the side ????????????????????????
4th round pick only nothing more.
Lots of rumours around that Polo is on the outer.
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A couple of youtube clips of Thomson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2xpl9w-LzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKvsGrkWRxg&feature=related
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Great another club's offcast :scream.
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Big V clubs in hunt for Thomson
Andrew Capel | The Advertiser | Saturday 4th October 2008
Adam Thomson is in demand.
Unwanted by Port Adelaide and searching for a new AFL club, midfielder Thomson is being courted by three teams in the lead-up to next weeks exchange period.
However, Adelaide, it seems, is not on his radar.
All three of Thomson's suitors are Victorian clubs, according to his manager, Justin Reid.
"There's been alot of interest in Adam from across the border," Reid said.
"You're never quite sure what will happen in trade week."
"But with the interest that's been shown - some clubs really seem to rate him - we're pretty confident Adam will have a new home by the end of the week.
"Thomson, 22, is seeking a trade after a lack of opportunities at Port, which played him just seven times this season despite starting a rebuilding program midway through the year. The Power is seeking a third-round draft pick for the hard-nosed, inside midfielder.
But it is likely to have to settle for a fourth-round pick, given Thomson is a free agent and can nominate for the pre-season draft, where Port would lose him for nothing.
Despite playing just 28 matches for the Power in four seasons after being selected at pick 11 in the 2004 national draft, Thomson has not lost faith in his ability to make it at AFL level, according to Reid.
"He's confident he's got what it takes to take his game to another level and become a regular AFL player," Reid said.
"Adam's never doubted his ability but the cards haven't fallen his way."
"He was starved of opportunities at Port and not really used to his strengths."
"He's an inside midfielder who can dish the ball out to running team-mates but Port - which drafted him as a replacement for Josh Carr - played him more as an outside player with an emphasis on kicking goals.
"If he is used the right way, I'm sure he'll have a lot of good footy in front of him.
"Reid said the Crows had not shown any interest in Thomson who had a standout season for Sturt in the SANFL.
"They've got a few players like Adam, so I think they're looking for more leg speed," he said.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/sport/football/
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Richmond FC will never learn.
They only got one right(morton) out of how many screwups
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Richmond FC will never learn.
They only got one right(morton) out of how many screwups
yep scew ups, you and jack are experts on screw ups.
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Doesnt sound like he has the greatest foot skills, if this is the case we should stay away.
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i think Thomson can be good run with type and very handy at the stoppages. hes not the best midfielder, but he could probably do a decent job on opposition mid.
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Richmond FC will never learn.
They only got one right(morton) out of how many screwups
yep scew ups, you and jack are experts on screw ups.
for once id like to see you post a comment, not replying to mine.
Loser
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Sounds like we might be giving up pick 58 for Thomson as we might not be using that pick anyway. I hope we have more than just 3 picks in this draft though :-\.
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Adam Thomson
Details:
Club: Murray Bridge/Sturt
DOB: 21 August 1986 Hgt: 183cm Wgt: 82kg
Position: Onballer
Natural Foot: Right
Honours:
South Australia 2004
National Draft Camp 2004
Strengths: Adam is a tough in and under midfielder who thrives at the clearances. He is very adept at getting a quick slick handball out of a pack to a waiting teammate, and was ranked in the top 10 for agility at the draft camp.
He has played a few senior games in the SANFL, and although he didn't gather many possessions he impressed with his commitment and defensive work. Thomson is also handy around the goals and a good set shot.
Weaknesses: Nothing outstanding about his game, and was slightly overshadowed by his higher profile teammates at the carnival. Lacks a bit of pace.
Footydraft.com comment: Clubs looking for an inside midfielder could do a lot worse than Thomson.
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4 years ago
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If we do get Thomson we have had a fair crack at the 2004 draft pool:
- Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Polo, Morton, Thomson
- Thursfeild, Pattison, McGaune
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would surely consider him with a 4th rounder, got nothing to lose really, after the 3rd round (or even 2nd round) the draft is a bit of a lottery
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would surely consider him with a 4th rounder, got nothing to lose really, after the 3rd round (or even 2nd round) the draft is a bit of a lottery
im certain we wouldnt snare a 22yo with a r4 selection, mayve a R3 , I fear they would ask a R2. I would think perhaps Polo is being hawked around
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would surely consider him with a 4th rounder, got nothing to lose really, after the 3rd round (or even 2nd round) the draft is a bit of a lottery
im certain we wouldnt snare a 22yo with a r4 selection, mayve a R3 , I fear they would ask a R2. I would think perhaps Polo is being hawked around
simply going by the article quoted above man...
Thomson, 22, is seeking a trade after a lack of opportunities at Port, which played him just seven times this season despite starting a rebuilding program midway through the year. The Power is seeking a third-round draft pick for the hard-nosed, inside midfielder.
But it is likely to have to settle for a fourth-round pick, given Thomson is a free agent and can nominate for the pre-season draft, where Port would lose him for nothing.
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im certain we wouldnt snare a 22yo with a r4 selection, mayve a R3 , I fear they would ask a R2. I would think perhaps Polo is being hawked around
Gawd you'd hope not :banghead
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would surely consider him with a 4th rounder, got nothing to lose really, after the 3rd round (or even 2nd round) the draft is a bit of a lottery
im certain we wouldnt snare a 22yo with a r4 selection, mayve a R3 , I fear they would ask a R2. I would think perhaps Polo is being hawked around
No chance, he's out of contract and can't make the side of a bottom 4 side. 4th rounder at best.
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Hughes for Thomson and an exchange of 2nd round draft picks would be nice. :thumbsup
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we need an attacking midfielder.
no to Thomson
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Hughes for Thomson and an exchange of 2nd round draft picks would be nice. :thumbsup
Sorry Darth, I have to disagree on this one. IMO the only other person who would think that's nice is Mark Williams lol. The swapping of picks 22 and 26 isn't much of a muchness as you'll get a similarly decent kid at both picks and Port gets a 21 y.o. KPP in exchange for offloading a 22 y.o. dime a dozen small mid on the fringe whose a dodgy kick. Read on the AFL site how important Williams rates kicking these days. That's why Thomson is on the outer and is no loss to Port.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68656
To me that trade reads us offloading Hughes when we lack KPPs just to move 4 spots up the draft in the 20s. No deal sorry.
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Hughes for Thomson and an exchange of 2nd round draft picks would be nice. :thumbsup
Sorry Darth, I have to disagree on this one. IMO the only other person who would think that's nice is Mark Williams lol. The swapping of picks 22 and 26 isn't much of a muchness as you'll get a similarly decent kid at both picks and Port gets a 21 y.o. KPP in exchange for offloading a 22 y.o. dime a dozen small mid on the fringe whose a dodgy kick. Read on the AFL site how important Williams rates kicking these days. That's why Thomson is on the outer and is no loss to Port.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68656
To me that trade reads us offloading Hughes when we lack KPPs just to move 4 spots up the draft in the 20s. No deal sorry.
agree with you completely there MT. hughes is important for us and worth much more than thomson. we're not desperate for thomson, be nice to have for a low pick (4th rounder or something) but nothing more. Dun understand the logic of some posters wanting to trade off hughes when KPP is a need of ours
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from today's Age...
...the Tigers lead the race for Port's uncontracted midfielder Adam Thomson.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/hawthorn-to-meet-swan-okeefe/2008/10/06/1223145262706.html
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Hughes for Thomson and an exchange of 2nd round draft picks would be nice. :thumbsup
Sorry Darth, I have to disagree on this one. IMO the only other person who would think that's nice is Mark Williams lol. The swapping of picks 22 and 26 isn't much of a muchness as you'll get a similarly decent kid at both picks and Port gets a 21 y.o. KPP in exchange for offloading a 22 y.o. dime a dozen small mid on the fringe whose a dodgy kick. Read on the AFL site how important Williams rates kicking these days. That's why Thomson is on the outer and is no loss to Port.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68656
To me that trade reads us offloading Hughes when we lack KPPs just to move 4 spots up the draft in the 20s. No deal sorry.
agree with you completely there MT. hughes is important for us and worth much more than thomson. we're not desperate for thomson, be nice to have for a low pick (4th rounder or something) but nothing more. Dun understand the logic of some posters wanting to trade off hughes when KPP is a need of ours
they are the same fools who would be happy if we drafted away our draft picks for Seaby.
Darth you have no stuffin idea you really dont
Hughes is what we need for this side. We should put all our time and effort in trying to develop him.
Understand you idiot???
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Hughes for Thomson and an exchange of 2nd round draft picks would be nice. :thumbsup
you're an absolute flog!!!!!
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Thomson trade close
Herald-Sun | October 7, 2008
PORT Adelaide wants Richmond and North Melbourne to put offers of a third-round draft pick for midfielder Adam Thomson in writing by noon today.
And the door is open for two other Victorian-based clubs -- presumably Melbourne and Essendon, which have third-round draft picks ahead of the Tigers and Kangaroos -- to trump the frontrunners for the 22-year-old.
"It's OK, it is what the market says," Port football operations manager Peter Rohde said of the offers for Thomson.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24458158-19742,00.html
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Why would anyone put up a 3rd round pick for someone who is likely to be delisted anyway ::).
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Why would anyone put up a 3rd round pick for someone who is likely to be delisted anyway ::).
because your name is the RFC.
They will never get understand we need to keep our picks not get rid of them for players who cant get a game with a club who finished 4th last.
what a stuffin joke we are
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Why would anyone put up a 3rd round pick for someone who is likely to be delisted anyway ::).
because your name is the RFC.
They will never get understand we need to keep our picks not get rid of them for players who cant get a game with a club who finished 4th last.
what a effin joke we are
Hopefully it's only just some journo making up deals in their head to fill up a story. We've made no trades so far.
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Why would anyone put up a 3rd round pick for someone who is likely to be delisted anyway ::).
because your name is the RFC.
They will never get understand we need to keep our picks not get rid of them for players who cant get a game with a club who finished 4th last.
what a effin joke we are
no mate
the only joke here is you, and jack
but thats the same person anyway right ;)
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they are the same fools who would be happy if we drafted away our draft picks for Seaby.
Darth you have no effin idea you really dont
Hughes is what we need for this side. We should put all our time and effort in trying to develop him.
Understand you idiot???
No need for the insult >:( the comment before about developing was all that was needed
And back to the topic.....
Why would anyone put up a 3rd round pick for someone who is likely to be delisted anyway ::).
Or would you bother trying to trade a Polo and then just go an collect another mid-fielder went it was ruckman & KPP we are asupposedly after
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A snippet from Sportal
07/10/2008 8:11 PM
Paul Gough
Cameron was more confident of coming up with a trade deal to secure Port youngster Adam Thomson, who has struggled to get a regular game with the Power having played just 28 games over the past four years.
Cameron said the deal was not yet finalised but was hopeful the Tigers could secure the 22-year-old for their third round selection - pick 42 overall.
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/tigers-seaby-deal-unlikely-58181
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A snippet from Sportal
07/10/2008 8:11 PM
Paul Gough
Cameron was more confident of coming up with a trade deal to secure Port youngster Adam Thomson, who has struggled to get a regular game with the Power having played just 28 games over the past four years.
Cameron said the deal was not yet finalised but was hopeful the Tigers could secure the 22-year-old for their third round selection - pick 42 overall.
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/tigers-seaby-deal-unlikely-58181
i swear to god I am in love with this guy.
CC explained the situation perfectly.
Basically, we are interested in both seaby and thomson and hamish, but are not willing to offer our first two picks . They are off limits.
I love this strategy. Basically he is telling nth and west coast, take one our tradeable players and we can do a deal, otherwise
forget it.
I know its early days but I encouraged by cc's manner enormously.
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A snippet from Sportal
07/10/2008 8:11 PM
Paul Gough
Cameron was more confident of coming up with a trade deal to secure Port youngster Adam Thomson, who has struggled to get a regular game with the Power having played just 28 games over the past four years.
Cameron said the deal was not yet finalised but was hopeful the Tigers could secure the 22-year-old for their third round selection - pick 42 overall.
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/tigers-seaby-deal-unlikely-58181
I dont mind this trade we need to add bigger bodied mids into our mix of GF sprinters if we are to take a step up, I like the way they are thinking .. :gotigers
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I still think a 3rd rounder is too much for a player that could just walk into the PSD
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I still think a 3rd rounder is too much for a player that could just walk into the PSD
that may well be the case however we would be no chance of securing him, he adds another dimension to our midifeld that is a genuine gap right now ..that is size....Lids, Foley, Cotchin tucky , tambling...they're not big...we really need to address this to take the next step...I realise there's no guarantees with this kid, but there NEVER is with pick 42 :shh
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A snippet from Sportal
07/10/2008 8:11 PM
Paul Gough
Cameron was more confident of coming up with a trade deal to secure Port youngster Adam Thomson, who has struggled to get a regular game with the Power having played just 28 games over the past four years.
Cameron said the deal was not yet finalised but was hopeful the Tigers could secure the 22-year-old for their third round selection - pick 42 overall.
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/tigers-seaby-deal-unlikely-58181
i swear to god I am in love with this guy.
CC explained the situation perfectly.
Basically, we are interested in both seaby and thomson and hamish, but are not willing to offer our first two picks . They are off limits.
I love this strategy. Basically he is telling nth and west coast, take one our tradeable players and we can do a deal, otherwise
forget it.
I know its early days but I encouraged by cc's manner enormously.
be very happy with picking up adam thomson, obviously i'd rather if we only give 4th rounder but i won't cry over giving up 3rd rounder.
in my opinion, i dont' think our first 2 picks are off limits. pick 8 certainly is i'd say but i think we'd be willing to part with pick 26, not for seaby, but for mcintosh we'd certainly take it i reckon. hope CC thinks the same
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I still think a 3rd rounder is too much for a player that could just walk into the PSD
that may well be the case however we would be no chance of securing him, he adds another dimension to our midifeld that is a genuine gap right now ..that is size....Lids, Foley, Cotchin tucky , tambling...they're not big...we really need to address this to take the next step...I realise there's no guarantees with this kid, but there NEVER is with pick 42 :shh
Adds another dimension? I thought slow midfielders who can't kick were catered for on our list already.
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The Australian says the trade may happen as early as today.
"The Tigers may trade pick 42 to Port Adelaide today for mid-fielder Adam Thompson."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24462814-2722,00.html
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I still think a 3rd rounder is too much for a player that could just walk into the PSD
that may well be the case however we would be no chance of securing him, he adds another dimension to our midifeld that is a genuine gap right now ..that is size....Lids, Foley, Cotchin tucky , tambling...they're not big...we really need to address this to take the next step...I realise there's no guarantees with this kid, but there NEVER is with pick 42 :shh
Adds another dimension? I thought slow midfielders who can't kick were catered for on our list already.
100% correct.
im sick to death of recruiting players who cant stuffin kick.
big no to this dud
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This was posted on YnB by Crows, who is an Adelaide supporter, about Thomson
Guys, Adam Thomson has the potential to be a very good, bordering on great, AFL player IMO. He still racked up pretty decent possessions counts despite not recieving much game time and in the SANFL he's had some monster games. Ideally he could have been more consistent in the SANFL and by his 4th year on an AFL list he should have perhaps been more dominant than he was. But at the end of the day he is only 22 and has shown he can play at the highest level.
He’s an excellent in and under midfielder who can get first hands on the ball on a regular basis. His disposal by hand is superb but slightly questionable by foot as he sometimes picks poor options and he doesn’t have the most penetrating kick. He is also very dangerous around goals and has had many multiple goal games in the SANFL. He is a strong tackler, very courageous and is always willing to apply blocks and shepherds. He would be an absolute steal for a 3rd rounder make no mistake about that.
link: http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=8579&page=176
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This was posted on YnB by Crows, who is an Adelaide supporter, about Thomson
Guys, Adam Thomson has the potential to be a very good, bordering on great, AFL player IMO. He still racked up pretty decent possessions counts despite not recieving much game time and in the SANFL he's had some monster games. Ideally he could have been more consistent in the SANFL and by his 4th year on an AFL list he should have perhaps been more dominant than he was. But at the end of the day he is only 22 and has shown he can play at the highest level.
He’s an excellent in and under midfielder who can get first hands on the ball on a regular basis. His disposal by hand is superb but slightly questionable by foot as he sometimes picks poor options and he doesn’t have the most penetrating kick. He is also very dangerous around goals and has had many multiple goal games in the SANFL. He is a strong tackler, very courageous and is always willing to apply blocks and shepherds. He would be an absolute steal for a 3rd rounder make no mistake about that.
link: http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=8579&page=176
i dont care about anything except the line "questionable by foot"
we should never recruit anyone who cant kick. no stuffin way
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As much as I hate agreeing with daniel, just look at the Hawks drafting mantra
They won't draft someone who can't kick, they've made a couple of exceptions with McEntee on the rookie list, but he's a ruckman and a speculative selection.
For a 4th rounder I wouldn't mind as we probably won't use it anyway, but not for a 3rd rounder, that's a waste.
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I still think a 3rd rounder is too much for a player that could just walk into the PSD
that may well be the case however we would be no chance of securing him, he adds another dimension to our midifeld that is a genuine gap right now ..that is size....Lids, Foley, Cotchin tucky , tambling...they're not big...we really need to address this to take the next step...I realise there's no guarantees with this kid, but there NEVER is with pick 42 :shh
Adds another dimension? I thought slow midfielders who can't kick were catered for on our list already.
100% correct.
im sick to death of recruiting players who cant effin kick.
big no to this dud
well considering you and jack are absolutely clueless, and have zero ( actually negative) football knowledge, you not wanting him is probably as good a reason as any to go all out to get him.
He is tough and an extraction machine, perfect age 21-22. Frees up, and provides a little protection for lids and cotch, sounds logical and cheap. Again don't expect you to get that because youre an idiot. Keep flaming though bud, its very predictably entertaining
Just went through his draft camp results.
Runs 20 metres in 3.01 seconds = above average
top 10 in agility tests
good endurance
big leap
thomson is elte by hand, and sound by foot, he is not duncan kellaway. He can kick, but his disposal efficiency is down, because when he gets the ball, he is usually in the middle of the pack under intense pressure. Pick 42 if it gets done is a bargain.
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This was posted on YnB by Crows, who is an Adelaide supporter, about Thomson
Guys, Adam Thomson has the potential to be a very good, bordering on great, AFL player IMO. He still racked up pretty decent possessions counts despite not recieving much game time and in the SANFL he's had some monster games. Ideally he could have been more consistent in the SANFL and by his 4th year on an AFL list he should have perhaps been more dominant than he was. But at the end of the day he is only 22 and has shown he can play at the highest level.
He’s an excellent in and under midfielder who can get first hands on the ball on a regular basis. His disposal by hand is superb but slightly questionable by foot as he sometimes picks poor options and he doesn’t have the most penetrating kick. He is also very dangerous around goals and has had many multiple goal games in the SANFL. He is a strong tackler, very courageous and is always willing to apply blocks and shepherds. He would be an absolute steal for a 3rd rounder make no mistake about that.
link: http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=8579&page=176
i dont care about anything except the line "questionable by foot"
we should never recruit anyone who cant kick. no effin way
Let me see one Nathan Foley had question marks over his kicking at one point
In any case Thomson is an improvement on our current "can't kick" players as he can tackle block and get his hands on the ball
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Is Adam Thomson Port's version of our Meyer. Not in body types or player types, but a high draft pick that hasn't come good ...yet?
If Thomson is any good, why then did Williams not play him in a rebuilding year.
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At some stage Richmond has to make sure that Deledio, Cotchin and Foley get some added protection. They cant allow especially Cotchin and Deledio to take all the heat. You need some blokes who will take some hits for them, Tuck plays this role well, Thomson could be a second, Coughlan if he comes back a 3rd. In 2011 and 2012 I want Deledio and Cotchin to be able to do the business, if we havent protected them as we should, then that would be a mistake. I am on the Thomson to Richmond bandwagon. Have been for months.
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Is Adam Thomson Port's version of our Meyer. Not in body types or player types, but a high draft pick that hasn't come good ...yet?
If Thomson is any good, why then did Williams not play him in a rebuilding year.
It's an unknown.
The Port board on BF were on the Thomson wagon and made his SANFL form sound more than adequate for a spot in the team, but seems to think like our own with Polo, Chocco wasnt a big fan of Thomson.
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I agree that you need someone to take the hits, block etc for our 'sillky mids' in Cotchin Foley and Lids. But that someone can be Tuck, Cogs (if he makes it back) and Jackson who is big bodied enough.
What will happen is this kid will play games and then be maligned mercilessly due to his 'questionable' fot skills. We don't need another mid turning it over by foot. Unless you say this kid will be like diesel williams and will fire out bullet handballs and hardly kick the thing.
I havent seen him play but other reports say that his kicking is questionable as (a) he doesnt hit his targets and (b) his kicks lack penetration. At 22 yo it is too young to be doing a Harvey and just kicking it 20 to 30 metres.
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I still think a 3rd rounder is too much for a player that could just walk into the PSD
that may well be the case however we would be no chance of securing him, he adds another dimension to our midifeld that is a genuine gap right now ..that is size....Lids, Foley, Cotchin tucky , tambling...they're not big...we really need to address this to take the next step...I realise there's no guarantees with this kid, but there NEVER is with pick 42 :shh
Adds another dimension? I thought slow midfielders who can't kick were catered for on our list already.
100% correct.
im sick to death of recruiting players who cant effin kick.
big no to this dud
well considering you and jack are absolutely clueless, and have zero ( actually negative) football knowledge, you not wanting him is probably as good a reason as any to go all out to get him.
He is tough and an extraction machine, perfect age 21-22. Frees up, and provides a little protection for lids and cotch, sounds logical and cheap. Again don't expect you to get that because youre an idiot. Keep flaming though bud, its very predictably entertaining
Just went through his draft camp results.
Runs 20 metres in 3.01 seconds = above average
top 10 in agility tests
good endurance
big leap
thomson is elte by hand, and sound by foot, he is not duncan kellaway. He can kick, but his disposal efficiency is down, because when he gets the ball, he is usually in the middle of the pack under intense pressure. Pick 42 if it gets done is a bargain.
Thomson is now 22 and is a dime a dozen fringe midfielder. He's hardly going to get much better than he is now as a small. His draft camp athletic results as a 17 year old are irrelevant to whether he can kick or not. No way is he a sound kick. Fact is he handballs twice as much as he kicks which shows he's not confident by foot. Sure he kicks better than Duncan did but that's only because everyone does lol. A clearance player still needs to be able to kick well in general play especially as the game moves more and more towards footpassing through sophisticated zoning and more defensive pressure all over the ground. We have enough turnover merchants by foot as it is ::).
Btw Thomson was 15th in average clearances at Port this year. Averaged just over 1 clearance (1.4) per game in his 7 matches. Sure he would have had limited game time but he's hardly a clearance machine. And please don't give me that stat from 2007 of his clearances per minute. At 22 you're either up to it or not and he's not especially for us to offload a decent pick for him :scream. I could accept a 4th round pick for him (basically getting him for nothing) but you don't give up a 3rd round pick in a strong deep draft for someone who was likely to be delisted anyway :banghead.
Will Thomson be part of our next premiership side? No!
Will just 2 picks in the top 50 of a superdraft add more quality to our list compared to our competitors? No!
Good clubs seek more decent picks not less and place their (educated) faith in the draft. Enough of these temporary measures and wishfully thinking more experienced fringe players from other clubs will become stars once they slip on a Tiger guernsey :help.
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Thomson set to be announced a Tiger
RICHMOND is set to announce the first trade of trade week, sending its third-round draft pick to Port Adelaide in exchange for Adam Thomson.
The 22-year-old inside midfielder has spend the past four years at the Power, but has played just 28 games in that time, and only managed seven this year.
Richmond's general manager of football, Craig Cameron, said the deal was almost done, with pick 42 likely to be the price.
"It's progressed a fair way – I think it's just a matter of us sorting it out with Port Adelaide, which I don't think is going to be a sticking point," he said.
"Probably he'll be for our third-round pick."
Ruckmen are the big talking point of the week so far, with West Coast's Mark Seaby looking for more game time and Dean Laidley throwing Kangaroo Hamish McIntosh into the mix, but Cameron said the asking price was looking too high in the current environment.
"I think that the clubs are looking to see if they can get first-round picks for the ruckmen they're trying to trade, and we'd like to hang onto our first selection.
"I don't know if anything will loosen up as the week goes on, but I think it's going to be very difficult for them to move ruckmen for first-round picks.
"Everyone wants to go to this draft."
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68769
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AFL site is saying deal to be announced soon and it will be the first
Thomson to the Tigers for Pick 42 (3rd round pick) :-\
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Are we trying to own the 2004 draft with Deledio, Tambling, Meyer, Pattison, Polo, McGuane, Morton, Thursfield, Foley (rookie) & now Thomson (pick 11).
In effect as Morton would have gone top 10 if not father-son we had Picks 1, 4,10, 11, 12, 16, 20 & Thursfield and McGuane.
Maybe we should get rid of Polo & Meyer just to even things out a little????
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Pick 42 is always going to be a 'speculator', even in a 'superdraft'. He's young, was a top 10 draft pick (edit: sorry, 11 - thought he was a bit lower but no real difference), has good SANFL form, and can get the ball a bit. Who knows why he didn't make it at Port - maybe he was no good or maybe he just had a personality clash with the coach/club - it happens all the time but either way we aren't risking too much with pick 42. We can only hope that the club did enough research and homework on him to justify the decision to take him at all, whether it be with pick 1 or pick 100. I don't have much of an opinion one way or the other at this pick - if we had used a 2nd round pick then I would have been very concerned.
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I don't mind this one. He might turn out to be a "Brett Kirk" style player for us. A hard in and under who tackles well is pretty good for a 3rd rounder. I say well done CC!! :thumbsup
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Thomson suffered from OP this year.
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/News/NewsArticle/TabId/6038/default.aspx?newsId=61429
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I still think a 3rd rounder is too much
Guess this club will never learn, we always seem to over pay for trades
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If he was a tiger with a record like that since 2004 people would be asking for him to be delisted. :shh
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Article on Thomson about himself from July...
On the rise: Adam Thomson
By Katrina Gill
Thu 24 July, 2008
ADAM Thomson knows he’s not the magician holding the wand in Port Adelaide’s midfield, but he’s confident he can become a pretty handy assistant.
The hard-nosed 21-year-old struggled to break into the Power line up last year, as the team felt the need for speed, but demanded selection earlier this season with a string of stand-out performances for Sturt.
Thomson, who models his game on Hawthorn skipper Sam Mitchell, is a tough, in-and-under type-player, determined to take his SANFL dominance to the next level.
“I guess I’m not the quickest bloke in the AFL, but you try to play to your strengths and, for me, that’s definitely my ‘inside’ ability. I just try to get it out to the blokes like Danyle Pearce and Shaun Burgoyne, who do all the magic,” Thomson said with a laugh.
“At Sturt I played that in-and-under role from under 17s all the way through. It’s just how I started playing, I don’t know why, but I don’t really know any other way.”
Thomson has played 28 games in nearly four years with the Power, prompting a former teammate and media commentator to call for the shy lad from Murray Bridge to seek a trade out of Alberton.
But Thomson, who has dreamed of playing AFL footy since he was a boy, believes he’s good enough to cement a place in the Port Adelaide line up.
“There has been a fair bit in the press about me leaving and doing the same thing as Brad Symes [going to Adelaide], but I really enjoy it here at Port. I want to play here as long as I can and prove to the coaching staff and the players that I’m good enough to be a regular AFL player,” he said.
“I’m not a big personality, so I can’t really march up to Choco’s [Mark Williams’] office and demand to know [why I’m not in the side] or anything like that. I prefer to try and suss it out and I already know what I have to improve on.
“The past couple of years have been frustrating, but this is what I really want to do, so I have to take it one week at a time, as they say, and whether I’m playing with the Power or at Sturt, I just have to play as well as I can.”
Thomson has battled groin soreness, which the club feared was the early sign of osteitis pubis, this season, but with Port Adelaide committed to auditioning players for next year, he’s likely to receive more opportunities.
The prolific ball winner, who started his career with the Ramblers Football Club in Murray Bridge, has worked on several areas of his game with midfield coach Matthew Primus, including his disposal and offensive actions.
“I’ve played a bit of a different role this year, moving across half forward and trying to crumb a few goals,” he said.
“This year I’ve kicked more goals than any other year, which is another string to my bow, instead of just being able to play in the middle and, hopefully, it will hold me in good stead to stay in the [Port Adelaide] team this season.”
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/News/NewsArticle/TabId/6038/default.aspx?newsId=64031
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well done RFC for stuffin another draft up and trading picks away.
fuckheads
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well done RFC for effin another draft up and trading picks away.
effheads
Maybe, just maybe, this guy is better than the guys we might pick up at 42. Sure we could fluke a good one but the recuiters should know best. The draft is supsosed to be good but only those in the know would be able to judge it it good at pick 42. You never know, pick 42 might be just as speculative as pick 58 in this draft so what would be the difference. Another possiblity is we could have a kid thats gone under the radar in mind that we could get just as easy at 58. WE as supporters just dont know these things.
Mr Daniel, you dont have a crytal ball and neither do I (well one that tells the future anyway). So how about we let these guys do the job and then bash them if they are proven wrong. Its not the same guys doign the job this year so we cant give them greif over previous years.
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well done RFC for effin another draft up and trading picks away.
effheads
i agree with you "daniel161" ... a waste of space, a lost opportunity for an 17/18 year old.
you draft 17/18 year olds and give them an opportunity, not players like Thomson who's manager said "his style didn't suit what Williams wanted." ... well hello ... you play were your told and its the AFL ... you should be as much versitle as possible. i'm very quick to judge, but i do not believe in giving an recycle player a second chance against an 17/18 year old who hasn't got an opportunity to show.
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well done RFC for effin another draft up and trading picks away.
effheads
Maybe, just maybe, this guy is better than the guys we might pick up at 42. Sure we could fluke a good one but the recuiters should know best. The draft is supsosed to be good but only those in the know would be able to judge it it good at pick 42. You never know, pick 42 might be just as speculative as pick 58 in this draft so what would be the difference. Another possiblity is we could have a kid thats gone under the radar in mind that we could get just as easy at 58. WE as supporters just dont know these things.
Mr Daniel, you dont have a crytal ball and neither do I (well one that tells the future anyway). So how about we let these guys do the job and then bash them if they are proven wrong. Its not the same guys doign the job this year so we cant give them greif over previous years.
Theres lots of logic here from Fluff. People should give Thomson a go. FFS PICK 42 IS NOT THE SAME AS GIVING AWAY SAY 19 FOR MCMAHON. Thomson will provide good service for a P42 PICK.
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A bit more info just in case we happen to end up with him. This is a post from a post but all contributors and sources are acknowledged.
http://www.voy.com/51976/26076.html
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For anyone thats interested, here's Colin Wisbey's draft profile of the
player
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Adam Thomson (Sturt)
183/82 mid-age right foot (has other foot if nec).
*STYLE LIKE: Fairly pacy version of Simon Black
*TRADEMARK:
- Clean hands get under great pressure inside traffic then lightning,
often look-away, feed straight to team mate in the clear.
*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:
- Is defined by his ability inside traffic. Brilliant. Great hands -
getting & delivering, typically inside traffic under great pressure,
often look-away. Extremely clean, reliable & creative. Very rarely gets
impeded from delivering an accurate feed. A Simon Black type with
similar efficiency, more pace. The best hands, vision, decision-making
and efficiency in-close that I have seen in the past few years.
- I rate him very highly. In fact I have him at 8. He won't go that
early but I expect him to go around early 2nd round. Definite AFL. If I
had any pick after #7 I would take him with it ... in a heartbeat.
*HURT FACTOR (Offensive/Defensive/Negative):
- All excellent.
*DISPOSAL:
- Very high Hurt Factor, especially by hand.
- Predominantly feeds.
- Brilliant by hand - extremely quick, accurate and displays incredible
vision. Dynamite. Also master of the accurate look-away feed.
- Kicking is also quite reliable although not in the same league as his
feeds
- Good power and depth in his kicks.
- Kicking style is reasonable, although he tends to fall back a fair way
when he kicks. Fairly economical action.
- Not a noted goalkicker but is reasonably reliable at goal without
being a sure thing.
*DECISION-MAKING, SMARTS:
- Terrific inside traffic, especially centre bounce, even under the
greatest of pressure. Clean to get, quick, clean, reliable and creative
to feed off. Exceptional "6th sense" vision and quick decision-making
response to same. In short, extremely efficiently creative.
- Excellent poise. "Always" looks for an option.
- Reads both play and ball very well. Roves the ruck contest and the
spill well.
- Officially only credited with only 3 HBGs for the entire U18 Champs
but, by my definition of HBG being a possession gained under great
pressure, a very high percentage of his possessions are HBG.
- Very unselfish Occasionally too much so, looking for a team mate when
he might be better advised to carry the ball or shoot for goal himself.
- Never seems to lose his cool. Is controlled, no-fuss professional.
*HANDS:
- Very clean, all levels. Shines under great pressure and inside
congestion.
*OVERHEAD MARKING:
- Not a feature of his game but he is reliable and has good judgement.
U18 Champs stats have him at no contested marks out of 11 but that stat
is not representative. He can be relied upon to take at least a 50/50
contested mark.
*ATHLETICISM:
- Good pace, although he seldom uses it and is not super quick. Not a
noted ball carrier.
- Very agile.
- Covers plenty of ground yet doesn't look peak fit, just looking at his
body. I suspect he has a fair bit of scope to harden his body and lift
his fitness even further, perhaps even improving his already fairly good
speed a bit in the process. Nevertheless he runs a game right out.
- Good recovery agility.
- Good reflexes.
- Very good balance. When tackled, keeps his arms free and keeps his
feet. Rides a bump well.
- Evasion is good although he feeds off so quickly and doesn't often try
to carry the ball, so it isn't on show very often.
- Displays a huge unaided leap on occasions.
*INTENSITY, ETHIC:
- Covers a lot of ground and at good energy.
- Attacks both man and ball well.
- Fierce and effective tackler. Does often tend to throw himself to the
ground with the tackle though. Does quite a few smothers.
- Although first and foremost a play-creator, he is also very good
defensively within traffic, especially centre bounce, often stifling an
opponent's attempted clearance. I don't have a handle on his
accountability in a stuff role but he is certainly accountable to the
nearest opponent.
- Does the 1%ers eg will run in from 15m away to lay a very physical
block.
- Courageous.
*CONSISTENCY:
- Very consistent, both game to game and within a game.
*AFL VERSATILITY:
- Is a natural inside onballer, with better pace than those types
usually have, so you would want to make the most of his attributes in
that role. I think he can even play that role in his first year. He is
gifted in that role. Other than that, could play anywhere down the
flanks. Could potentially be a good AFL BP but you would lose the
benefit of his superior prime attributes if you didn't play him onball.
*SCI (SCOPE FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT):
- Normal.
*QUERY:
- Nothing of significance.
*SOME STATS:
- Stats summary '04 U18 Champs:
Averaged 16 disposals and 3.7 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 19).
Kicks to feeds: 18-29 (1:1.6).
Kicks long vs short: 9-4 (2.3:1).
Kicking accuracy: 5/18 ineffective incl 3 clangers.
Handball accuracy: 2/29 ineffective incl 0 clangers.
Total accuracy: 7/47 ineffective incl 3 clangers.
Gets own ball?: 20/47TD were HR. 3 HBG.
S.P. clearances: 8 incl 7 BU incl 6 CBC.
Tackles: 6
Marking: 0 of 11 were contested.
*OTHER STUFF:
- Reserves '04.
- Had been listed as 180/78 but '04 DC measured 183/82
http://www.voy.com/51976/26076.html (http://www.voy.com/51976/26076.html)
edit: added original source link
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Adam Thomson (Sturt)
183/82 mid-age right foot (has other foot if nec).
So now we know he's about 40 something and has both legs :thumbsup
One would have to take him,surely.................... :whistle
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... and has both legs :thumbsup
Yeah but there's something not quite right about the left one :-\
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Some pics of Thomson:
(http://mm.afl.com.au/portals/0/port_player_profiles/2008_thomson_adam_lrg.jpg)
http://aflphotos.com.au/photography/results/?q=Adam+Thomson&sub_code=15084000&x=31&y=12 (http://aflphotos.com.au/photography/results/?q=Adam+Thomson&sub_code=15084000&x=31&y=12)
Height: 184 cm
Weight: 84 kg
DOB: 21-08-1986
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Reported on Channel 9 Adelaide that Danny Myer could be part of this trade
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Reported on Channel 9 Adelaide that Danny Myer could be part of this trade
Hope you're wrong on that one. I think Meyer will have a good year in 2009.
Good to see you floating around this forum camboon!
Stripes
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well done RFC for effin another draft up and trading picks away.
effheads
Maybe, just maybe, this guy is better than the guys we might pick up at 42. Sure we could fluke a good one but the recuiters should know best. The draft is supsosed to be good but only those in the know would be able to judge it it good at pick 42. You never know, pick 42 might be just as speculative as pick 58 in this draft so what would be the difference. Another possiblity is we could have a kid thats gone under the radar in mind that we could get just as easy at 58. WE as supporters just dont know these things.
Mr Daniel, you dont have a crytal ball and neither do I (well one that tells the future anyway). So how about we let these guys do the job and then bash them if they are proven wrong. Its not the same guys doign the job this year so we cant give them greif over previous years.
Theres lots of logic here from Fluff. People should give Thomson a go. FFS PICK 42 IS NOT THE SAME AS GIVING AWAY SAY 19 FOR MCMAHON. Thomson will provide good service for a P42 PICK.
Understand this Ramps.
Last year's draft was not deep at all but pick 19 in 2007 is the equivalent of pick 40 in this years draft. You should have a look at some players drafted around the pick 42 mark. Last year Chris Mayne pick 40- Great Player. Bachar houli, Robbie Warnock, Jesse Smith all around 42
Yes its hit and miss but its better than a player who cant even get a game with a bottom 4 side.
Why cant we just stuffin once keep the picks and actually put more money and focus on picking the right player.
We will be drafting another player with bad foot skills. 05 it was graham, in 06 it was Kingsley. 07 it was jordy. 08 its thompson.
We will never stuffin learn
Different year same result.
Well done RFC :thumbsup
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And for some of the reasons you mentioned re: kicking we should start the
SAVE DANNY MEYER CAMPAIGN!
Meyer has put on some weight, he can come good, we shouldnt be trading him now. Theres atleast 8 blokes who should go before Danny.
SAVE DANNY
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give them bowden ffs!
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Meyer has put on some weight, he can come good, we shouldnt be trading him now. Theres atleast 8 blokes who should go before Danny.
You reckon 8 Ramps.... hmm I can think of at least 4 ;D
And I agree Danny can kick..... SAVE DANNY, SAVE DEAN POLO :thumbsup
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Me 3 if Danny can kick then Danny should stay.
If we as a club have persevered with Danny in terms of his injuries and only now he has started to come through why would you want to trade him for a bloke who has the similar attributes but no footskill. Seems illogical.
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I think Meyer can become very good off half back and from a back pocket. He needs a big preseason, he needs to be injury free and he will come good.
Thomson for P42 is a Richmond win
Thomson and 38 for Meyer and 42 will become a Port win.
Just my opinion. Thats all.
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I think Meyer can become very good off half back and from a back pocket. He needs a big preseason, he needs to be injury free and he will come good.
Thomson for P42 is a Richmond win
Thomson and 38 for Meyer and 42 will become a Port win.
Just my opinion. Thats all.
In so many words Ramps
Meyer > Thompson
We need KPP's and Ruckmen not another mid/flanker.
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Meyer has put on some weight, he can come good, we shouldnt be trading him now. Theres atleast 8 blokes who should go before Danny.
You reckon 8 Ramps.... hmm I can think of at least 4 ;D
And I agree Danny can kick..... SAVE DANNY, SAVE DEAN POLO :thumbsup
Meyer yes, Polo not so much
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Meyer yes, Polo not so much
I suppose the question is?
Polo > Thomson
If the answer is yes then why trade for Thomson and shop Polo
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give them bowden ffs!
Bowden proved you wrong :lol :shh
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Done for pick 42.
http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68817
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give them bowden ffs!
Bowden proved you wrong :lol :shh
ur love of bowden shows ur lack of ability to grasp reality.
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Officially a Tiger for pick 42 according to AFL website !!!!!
Welcome to Tigerland son...
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Yes welcome to another 10 years of not palying finals.
trades like this are the reason we dont play finals.
you blind idiots cant see it and that is really sad.
The hawks are where they are because they mostly traded out players not traded in duds
we are stuffed.
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Meyer yes, Polo not so much
I suppose the question is?
Polo > Thomson
Thomson - pick #11
Polo - pick #20
good to have both.
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Dont think draft pick 42 in all seriousness is going to net us a premiership player. Long as we keep first two picks we are going along OK. If we can get Ziebell with 8 and then Roughead/Trengrove or Rockliff with 26 I will be stoked !!!!!!! Although Rockliff may have been available at 42 which somehow agree's with your argument.
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Yes welcome to another 10 years of not palying finals.
trades like this are the reason we dont play finals.
you blind idiots cant see it and that is really sad.
The hawks are where they are because they mostly traded out players not traded in duds
we are stuffed.
Dude its a 3rd round pick for a 22 year old.
Chill the stuff out.
Hawks have traded for many hacks - Gilham, Guerra, Dew etc.
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Last year's draft was not deep at all but pick 19 in 2007 is the equivalent of pick 40 in this years draft. You should have a look at some players drafted around the pick 42 mark. Last year Chris Mayne pick 40- Great Player. Bachar houli, Robbie Warnock, Jesse Smith all around 42
Yes its hit and miss but its better than a player who cant even get a game with a bottom 4 side.
How is it better? Just to help show how much hit and miss it really is, here are some players that have gone over 40 in recent years:
01 - Jarrad Waite 46, Andrew Welsh 47, Brad Miller 55, Paul Medhurst 56, Dane Swan 58, Adam Schneider 60, Brian Lake 71.
02 - Adam Selwood 53, Ryan Crowley 55, Robert Shirley 56, Nick Malceski 64, Brad Fisher 72.
03 - Amon Buchanan 45, Michael Pettigrew 46, Sam Fisher 55, Michael Rischetelli 61, Shane Tuck 73.
04 - Justin SHerman 45, Simon Taylor 53, Chris Knights 56, Mathew Egan 62, Daniel Pratt 74.
05 - Ryan Gamble 47, Joel Patfull 56, Clint Bartram 60, Mathew Stokes 61.
06 - Karl Reimers 47, Lindsay Thomas 53, Josh Hill 61, Tyson Goldsack 63, Justin Westhoff 71.
And here are some household names that all went under 30:
01 - Luke Molan 9, Ashley Watson 14, Daniel Elstone 20, Aaron Rogers 26, Tom Davidson 27, Mark Powell 28.
02 - Tim Walsh 4, Nick Smith 15, Kris Shore 18, Bo Nixon 21, Callam Urch 25, Darren Walsh 27, Luke Shackleton 29.
03 - David Trotter 9, Fergus Watts 14, Josh Willoughby 16, Billy Morrison 17, Llane Spaanderman 18, Daniel McConnell 26.
04 - John Meeson 8, Ryan Willetts 19, Jesse Wells 22, Matthew Little 26, Patrick Garner 27, Chad Gibson 28.
So really, whether we used pick 42 or 52 or 62 or 72 doesn't really make 2 parts of 5/8ths of stuff-all difference. It is soooooo hit and miss, especially when you get up into the 40+ area, that taking a ready to go ex-pick 11 is less of a gamble than taking an untried 18 year old. And to demonstrate what I mean, I will use the much vexed name of David Rodan. Wasn't going to get a go at Richmond (by his own admission) and when given a change of environment was able to apply himself successfully. Or should I mention the name Mitch Morton? Give the guy a chance before you condemn him.
Why cant we just effin once keep the picks and actually put more money and focus on picking the right player.
See above. Because sometimes that isn't the smartest thing to do.
We will be drafting another player with bad foot skills. 05 it was graham, in 06 it was Kingsley. 07 it was jordy.
None of those players had/have bad foot skills to my knowledge. I know you will blow off about McMahon but his foot skills are better than most in the team and certainly better than others that you would not consider ditching (Richo, Tuck, McGuane to name a few). All were recruited for a specific purpose and 2 of them have filled that purpose - 1 very well and 1 average/good (so far). 2 of them were recruited at minimal cost. 2 wins and 1 minimum cost failure does not constitute a history of bad decisions.
We will never effin learn
Different year same result.
I fear it is you who will never learn. Go outside and have a look upwards - tell me if the sky is any closer to falling on your head today than it was yesterday or will be tomorrow. No, its not falling in and our club will not live or die by our decision to trade pick 42 for Adam Thompson. Those at the club who are paid to make these decisions have a plan and a target result and are privy to much more information on which to base their decision regarding the potential risk vs benefit outcome, and all we can do as supporters is trust their decision and then judge in hindsight. Until then, save yourself from a heart attack and save us all from the repeat ramblings of your opinion. You are entitled to it just like us but we don't need to hear it in every post, every time.
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Dont think draft pick 42 in all seriousness is going to net us a premiership player. Long as we keep first two picks we are going along OK. If we can get Ziebell with 8 and then Roughead/Trengrove or Rockliff with 26 I will be stoked !!!!!!! Although Rockliff may have been available at 42 which somehow agree's with your argument.
I would agree.
Ziebell / Sidebottom / Hartlett / Yarren @ 8 = another promising midfeild type to thow into the bunch. Aka reckons you can never have too many mids.
- Deledio, Cotchin, Foley, Coughlan, Tambling, Tuck, White would be the long term core you would think.
Then toy have a '2nd tier' of - Ziebell, Connors, Morton, Edwards, Raines, Thompson, Polo, Meyer etc.
Outside Cogs & Tuck its a under 23 side.
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Officially a Tiger for pick 42 according to AFL website !!!!!
Welcome to Tigerland son...
Good result for us I reckon. Its good that Meyer is still with us to and not part of the Thomson trade. I hope both these two lads have great careers at Richmond.
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New recruit delighted with trade
RICHMOND recruit Adam Thomson says he can’t wait to start his new life as a Tiger.
Thomson, 22, managed just 28 games in four years with Port Adelaide and was lured to Punt Rd with the promise of greater opportunity.
“Port’s a good club with some great players and Choco’s a great coach I just had to move on to get an opportunity at AFL level,” he said.
“There were a few clubs we met with but we chose the Tigers because of the playing group coming through.
“They’ve got a good future and I think they won eight of their last 11 games, so that’s good.”
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68826
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(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images/AFL/AFL%20F-J/Thom_train246xWIM.jpg)
He's a bit of a Patto look-a-like
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Yes welcome to another 10 years of not palying finals.
trades like this are the reason we dont play finals.
you blind idiots cant see it and that is really sad.
The hawks are where they are because they mostly traded out players not traded in duds
we are stuffed.
those 3 are premiership players my friend
Dude its a 3rd round pick for a 22 year old.
Chill the eff out.
Hawks have traded for many hacks - Gilham, Guerra, Dew etc.
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Yes welcome to another 10 years of not palying finals.
trades like this are the reason we dont play finals.
you blind idiots cant see it and that is really sad.
The hawks are where they are because they mostly traded out players not traded in duds
we are stuffed.
those 3 are premiership players my friend
Dude its a 3rd round pick for a 22 year old.
Chill the eff out.
Hawks have traded for many hacks - Gilham, Guerra, Dew etc.
those 3 are premiership players my friend.
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Daniel,would u like to name your personal candidate for the pick 43
position,seeing as you are so protective of it.
When u do,tell us why we would be better off with that particular player,
otherwise,it seems u are merely whining.
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Daniel,would u like to name your personal candidate for the pick 43
position,seeing as you are so protective of it.
When u do,tell us why we would be better off with that particular player,
otherwise,it seems u are merely whining.
hehehehe
like she has any flipping idea
cmon jack tell us, who do you want instead of thomson for pick 42? :scream
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someone tell me who jak is now ?
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I think that they are refering to Jackstar, I could be wrong though.
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I think that they are refering to Jackstar, I could be wrong though.
Does anybody know if Jackstar has a job for next year?\\
:thumbsup
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I think that they are refering to Jackstar, I could be wrong though.
yeh,i meant is he now posting under another name...??
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Back to the topic folks ::). Leave all the other rubbish to PMs.
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He's a bit of a Patto look-a-like
Are you talking about the premiership cup handles on either side of his head?
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Not sure what to think of this one. Never really seen the bloke play and our record of recruitng players with AFL experience is only matched by Port's recent record of giving good players away for bugger all.
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The RFC site is quick with the photoshop job.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/Players/PlayerProfile/tabid/8473/Default.aspx?playerid=18531&typeid=2
It's disappointing we'll have only 2 picks inside the top 50 of a strong draft if we don't do another trade and I don't see how this trade helps address a deficiency of ours. We need more classy ballwinners as well as a big key forward and a ruckman.
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The RFC site is quick with the photoshop job.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/Players/PlayerProfile/tabid/8473/Default.aspx?playerid=18531&typeid=2
It's disappointing we'll have only 2 picks inside the top 50 of a strong draft if we don't do another trade and I don't see how this trade helps address a deficiency of ours. We need more classy ballwinners as well as a big key forward and a ruckman.
it certainly does address a deficiency MT , our midfield is made up of GF sprinters , by comparrison Hawthorn and Geelong are like King Kong...we need to add some bulk around the contest...this kid has a solid frame and if he stands up will shoulder alot of heavy work that will complement our speed in Foley, Lids, Whitey edwards and Tambling...a sensible move that hopefully assists in taking that next step in our quest for finals :thumbsup
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It's disappointing we'll have only 2 picks inside the top 50 of a strong draft if we don't do another trade and I don't see how this trade helps address a deficiency of ours. We need more classy ballwinners as well as a big key forward and a ruckman.
Yeah it's the loss of the pick that concerns me....
Have a sinking feeling that we aint done at the trade table yet :-\
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Daniel,would u like to name your personal candidate for the pick 43
position,seeing as you are so protective of it.
When u do,tell us why we would be better off with that particular player,
otherwise,it seems u are merely whining.
Right now your right i cant tell you what that pick is going to be, but what i can tell you is we stuffed up the draft again.
How do i know?? because we do it every stuffin year. 2004/5/6/7 and 2008. we are a stuffin rabble.
We are a stuffin very stupid football club which is why the likes of Petts and Hyde will leave for Zero value.
Throw in JON and Meyer as well. All Rubbish. Everyone knows they were and are pathetic footballers but we hold them till their worth nothing.
We stuff the draft up every year, last year with your mate Jordy, graham, kingsley etc etc
no finals in 25 years why the stuff do you think that is???????????????????????
Because of our drafting and development thats why. Pathetic!!
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Daniel,would u like to name your personal candidate for the pick 43
position,seeing as you are so protective of it.
When u do,tell us why we would be better off with that particular player,
otherwise,it seems u are merely whining.
Right now your right i cant tell you what that pick is going to be, but what i can tell you is we stuffed up the draft again.
How do i know?? because we do it every effin year. 2004/5/6/7 and 2008. we are a effin rabble.
We are a effin very stupid football club which is why the likes of Petts and Hyde will leave for Zero value.
Throw in JON and Meyer as well. All Rubbish. Everyone knows they were and are pathetic footballers but we hold them till their worth nothing.
We eff the draft up every year, last year with your mate Jordy, graham, kingsley etc etc
no finals in 25 years why the eff do you think that is???????????????????????
Because of our drafting and development thats why. Pathetic!!
not sure how you build an argument on our drafting performance in 1983, last years it was second to none..putting performance before any self serving misguided subjective judgement of Jordy Mc , it was an inspired choice :thumbsup
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The RFC site is quick with the photoshop job.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/Players/PlayerProfile/tabid/8473/Default.aspx?playerid=18531&typeid=2
It's disappointing we'll have only 2 picks inside the top 50 of a strong draft if we don't do another trade and I don't see how this trade helps address a deficiency of ours. We need more classy ballwinners as well as a big key forward and a ruckman.
it certainly does address a deficiency MT , our midfield is made up of GF sprinters , by comparrison Hawthorn and Geelong are like King Kong...we need to add some bulk around the contest...this kid has a solid frame and if he stands up will shoulder alot of heavy work that will complement our speed in Foley, Lids, Whitey edwards and Tambling...a sensible move that hopefully assists in taking that next step in our quest for finals :thumbsup
Issue of quality though bj. Thomson is nowhere in the same class as those mids who do the bullocking ballwinning work at Geelong and Hawthorn and he has noticeable limitations in kicking, pace and endurance. Probably why he stars at SANFL level where the speed of the game is much slower than at AFL level. Another Alistair Neville.
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Tigers offer run to Power midfielder
Courtney Walsh | October 10, 2008
NEW Tiger Adam Thomson was once a teen touted as a potential star.
Now after four virtually fruitless days of hawking footballers' flesh, the relatively anonymous midfielder stands as the only used-goods package in the AFL capable of satisfying both buyer and seller.
The only footballer to be traded, Richmond will no doubt be hoping the former Port Adelaide player, who was swapped for pick 42, proves a bargain by being the first to the ball in the middle of the ground next season.
Certainly that is the wish of coach Terry Wallace who, in the final year of a five-year contract, needs to find a mix that will assist him put the Tigers into the eight for the first time in his reign.
"Adam clearly fits the age criteria that we are developing and he will be a strong addition to our midfield," Wallace said.
"I believe Richmond supporters will enjoy watching Adam play as he is a tough player who wins his own ball."
That description of Thomson fits the profile that first attracted Port back in 2004. Then the power of the competition after toppling Brisbane to claim the club's first AFL flag, Port Adelaide officials were convinced the Murray Bridge kid would prove a hardened midfielder capable of winning the tough contest and feeding the ball out to speedier wingers.
But despite his ball-winning smarts, Thomson arrived at Port Adelaide's famed home at Alberton Oval with his share of pressure -- only classy midfielder Steve Salopek had ever been taken with a higher draft pick than the number 11 used by the AFL's new power to seize the Unity College student.
The early indications were good, with the 22-year-old playing two matches in his debut year and another 13 in 2006, an exposure greater than that received by all but the most talented youngsters.
But while Port Adelaide's star soared last season -- at least until its grand final mauling from Geelong -- Thomson managed only six games despite getting more of the ball than before.
After another season mired with SANFL club Sturt, Thomson decided to look elsewhere, despite Port's initial reluctance to release him, for fear he would always remain behind the brothers Cornes and Burgoyne, Salopek and promising youngster Travis Boak.
"Port's a good club with some great players and Choco (Mark Williams) is a great coach, but I just had to move on to get an opportunity at AFL level," Thomson said.
"I think it all comes back to the midfield. There are some pretty big names in there and it was pretty hard to get guys like the Burgoyne and Cornes brothers out of there."
Thomson, who once ditched boarding school in Adelaide because of home sickness, may not find the Richmond midfield any easier to crack given the talent of Nathan Foley, Trent Cotchin, Chris Newman and the returning Mark Coughlin, a similar type of player.
But there is little doubt Wallace will give Thomson the chance to live up to the former boom.
"They've got a good future and I think they won eight of their last 11 games," Thomson said. "Getting here's been a bit of a long process, but it's finally happened now and I can't wait."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24472467-5012432,00.html
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Adam Thomson goes to Richmond in Port Adelaide trade
Michelangelo Rucci | October 10, 2008
THE first deal of trade week was finally done yesterday when Richmond parted with draft selection 42 for Port Adelaide midfielder Adam Thomson.
Thomson signed a two-year deal with the Tigers after 28 games in four seasons at Port.
Richmond coach Terry Wallace said the 22-year-old, who was pick No. 11 in the 2004 draft, would help the club's ball-winning ability.
"Adam clearly fits the age criteria that we are developing and he will be a strong addition to our midfield," Wallace said yesterday.
"I believe Richmond supporters will enjoy watching Adam play as he is a tough player who wins his own ball."
Thomson is an inside midfielder who led the AFL in clearances per minute played in 2007.
He played seven games this year, the last in Round 16.
"There were a few clubs I met with," Thomson said.
"But we chose the Tigers because of the playing group coming through and they have a good future (as measured) by their winning eight of the last 11 games."
Thomson said he decided to leave Port after being overlooked at selection, even after coach Mark Williams declared he was thinking about 2009.
"When opportunity did not come my way at the end of the season, I decided to move on and look for that opportunity (elsewhere)," he said.
"I can't wait to get (to Richmond) and get some respect and a spot in their side.
"Port has a great midfield; there are some pretty big names there and they are hard to get out of the side.
"I tried to work as hard as I could, but I did not get the opportunity."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24473268-19742,00.html
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I actually think this could be a good deal. Thomson was take at 11, is 22 and is the hard bodied in and under type we are looking for around the club. We gave up pick 42 for the opportunity but any player we enlisted to our club with that choice could well of never made the cut the same as this fellow with the exception we know exactly what we are getting with Thomson.
I'm hoping he is a good replacement for Johnson in the middle when the captain retires soon.
Stripes
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I actually think this could be a good deal. Thomson was take at 11, is 22 and is the hard bodied in and under type we are looking for around the club. We gave up pick 42 for the opportunity but any player we enlisted to our club with that choice could well of never made the cut the same as this fellow with the exception we know exactly what we are getting with Thomson.
I'm hoping he is a good replacement for Johnson in the middle when the captain retires soon.
Stripes
to be honest thats the only part of this trade that i like.
Thomson being drafted means i wont have to see Captain pathetic for too much longer.
His days are nearly over.
goodbye shut the door on your way out
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I actually think this could be a good deal. Thomson was take at 11, is 22 and is the hard bodied in and under type we are looking for around the club. We gave up pick 42 for the opportunity but any player we enlisted to our club with that choice could well of never made the cut the same as this fellow with the exception we know exactly what we are getting with Thomson.
I'm hoping he is a good replacement for Johnson in the middle when the captain retires soon.
That would be what the club is hoping for.
I've never been a fan of the 'pick Y could turn out a dud anyway so trade for something you know' argument. I know 3rd round picks have about a 25% success rate of making it which is ordinary but by targetting the draft you also open yourself up to finding elite talent which as we've just seen is rarely on the market during trade week and even if it is it you pay over the odds in picks and $$$. There are always those who slip past the early rounds yet become top AFL footballers. Just look as all the successful rookies. There's also a salary cap issue trading for players. Even a Thomson type will take up at least twice as much TPP space as a newbie 18 year old. That's okay if the traded player is reborn and more than pays his way at his new club like Morton did this year. However if the player traded for becomes just another list clogger it hurts you later on both on and off-field (wasting the salary cap).
Anyway Thommo is now a Tiger. As someone else here mentioned (Bents?) we're filling up our list with 2004 draftees. All 9 of them :o ...
1. Lids
4. Blingers
11. Thommo
12. Meyer
16. Patto
20. Polo
36. McGuane
44. Morton
PSD 1. Thursty
We've also increased the number of first rounders on our list to 14 IIRC:
Lids, Polak, Browny, Riewoldt, Cotchin, McMahon, Petts, Morton, Meyer, Schulz, Patto, JON, Tambo, Thomson.
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Thomson has copped a couple of hits in his time...
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5psg7jj6LNI
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sRiEpTwUCA8
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Adam Thomson will head east to Richmond
The Murray Valley Standard
14/10/2008
FORMER Murray Bridge boy Adam Thomson is bound for the bright lights of Melbourne, after the AFL footballer was traded from Port Adelaide to Richmond last week.
Richmond acquired the tough midfielder and in return gave Port Adelaide its third round pick - number 42 - in the upcoming AFL Draft. The former Ramblers footballer said he was looking forward to the move.
“I’m pretty excited about it actually,” he said.
“It will be a great place to live.
“I can’t wait to get over there and give it a crack.”
Starved for game time at the Power, Thomson decided the best way to further his career was too look for another club. “My job is to play AFL and I wasn’t doing it at Port,” he said.
“There is no hard feelings towards them, it’s about getting the opportunities.”
Thomson said Richmond were an up and coming club with a young list.
“There is a good group coming through,” he said.
“Hopefully I can get in the side and stay there and have some success.
“I can’t wait to get over there and meet everyone and get to know them.”
Tigers football manager Craig Cameron said the inside onballer would suit the developing team well.
“We are impressed with what we have seen of Adam and believe his skills and attributes will be a good fit at Richmond,” he said.
“It is worth noting that Adam has averaged 14.7 disposals this year despite only 60 per cent game time.”
Coach Terry Wallace said he was excited about Thomson and believed he would help Richmond’s ball-winning ability.
“Adam clearly fits the age criteria that we are developing and he will be a strong addition to our midfield,” Wallace said.
“I believe Richmond supporters will enjoy watching Adam play as he is a tough player who wins his own ball.”
Thomson was selected by Port Adelaide with pick 11 in the 2004 AFL Draft - the same draft the Tigers secured top 10 picks Brett Deledio (number one) and Richard Tambling (number four).
http://murraybridge.yourguide.com.au/news/local/sport/basketball/adam-thomson-will-head-east-to-richmond/1332227.aspx
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We are attempting to bring through a strong group of talented players all around the same age which is what wins you premierships. Teams with good older and younger players but nothing inbetween struggle but teams with a mature midfield with depth at either end are hard to beat.
I hope Thomson is another Morton for us.
Stripes
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Adam Thomson to make Tigers debut
Jay Clark | August 20, 2009 02:05pm
OFFSEASON recruit Adam Thomson is poised to make his Richmond debut against Hawthorn on Saturday night.
The hardened midfielder is expected to be named in the Tigers' 22 this afternoon after displaying some encouraging form in the VFL in recent weeks.
If picked, Thomson will become the 10th Tiger to make his Richmond debut this season, continuing the new direction under caretaker coach Jade Rawlings.
It has been a tough season for the clearance specialist, who was traded from Port Adelaide for pick 42 last year.
It was hoped the onballer would add strength to the Tigers' midfield division but he has so far struggled to produce his best form on a consistent basis for Coburg in the VFL.
He made a flying start to the pre-season but was struck down by a chest problem that limited his training load.
However, the hard-nut, who turns 23 tomorrow, is tipped to get his chance to impress in Graham Polak's emotional comeback match at the MCG.
Thomson, taken with the 11th selection in the 2004 national draft, played 28 games at Port before last year's trade.
Players to make their Tiger debut this season are Jayden Post, Tyrone Vickery, Jarrod Silvester, Andrew Collins, Andrew Browne, Alex Rance, Tom Hislop, Ben Cousins, Robin Nahas.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25956579-19742,00.html
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fapfapfap
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Great news for Thomson and the club. :thumbsup I'm looking forward to see what he can offer, and given that he on our list at least for next year as well, hope he uses the experience to kick start his career and reward the club for their faith in him.
Regardless its good to see another new face in the team and another potential player for the future.
Stripes
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God I hope not. Has done very little at Coburg.
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God I hope not. Has done very little at Coburg.
Try reading the article, specifically the part about the chest injury
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God I hope not. Has done very little at Coburg.
Try reading the article, specifically the part about the chest injury
I'm quite sure Beren knows all about his chest injury.
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interesting to note that liam anthony was taken at pick 43... one pick later than what we traded to port for this bloke!
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God I hope not. Has done very little at Coburg.
Try reading the article, specifically the part about the chest injury
I'm quite sure Beren knows all about his chest injury.
Thanks mate. :)
Yes I do. ;)
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McRae on Thomson's game for Coburg last week:
"Adam Thomson
Came back into the side after missing the previous match due to illness. The week off seemed to boost his energy levels. He had 21 possessions, with seven clearances, and was dominant around the middle of the ground when he was in there. His best game for quite a few weeks."
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
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Good luck to him. :thumbsup
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David King was asked on 3aw about why Hislop and Thomson didn't play much this year. King said there were injury issues but Hislop got a good go. On Thomson he had a weird sternum injury which was painful but he could still play. King then said Thomson could/should have played more than he did.