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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 29, 2009, 05:09:27 AM
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The whisper from Anthony Hudson last night on SEN is that Wilbur will make his debut this week.
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Interesting
Would think if true, he'd replace Vickery who really struggled with the tempo yesterday against the really BIG boys ;D
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Bring him on I reckon. Let's have a look at the kid. And if he were to come in it'd have to be for Oakley-Knickerwetter who shouldn't even have been out there in the first place. I thought Vickery was okay. Does anyone remember that bit of play on the wing when he ran down the Saint player who dropped the ball like a hot potato, and the umpire balled it up. From the stoppage they went forward and goaled. Yeah,nice one. Earlier Vickery was tackled, handballed the ball away, and was pinged for holding the ball.It happened to Rance too.Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a "bad umpiring decisions" thread. I could start a 10-page thread on the bad calls that went against us last night alone.
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I would like to see Vickery kept in for the experience, as RR said put Post in instead of JON, I know we are tanking but JON is just to painful to watch.
As for the umpiring yes we better not go there as we will look like sore losers as shockingly one sided as it was.
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Bring him on I reckon. Let's have a look at the kid. And if he were to come in it'd have to be for Oakley-Knickerwetter who shouldn't even have been out there in the first place. I thought Vickery was okay. Does anyone remember that bit of play on the wing when he ran down the Saint player who dropped the ball like a hot potato, and the umpire balled it up. From the stoppage they went forward and goaled. Yeah,nice one. Earlier Vickery was tackled, handballed the ball away, and was pinged for holding the ball.It happened to Rance too.Anyway, I don't want this to turn into a "bad umpiring decisions" thread. I could start a 10-page thread on the bad calls that went against us last night alone.
Why not? We had 4 free kicks after 1/4 time, 3 of those in the last quarter.
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Hopefully he will.
Would love to see Vickery and Post in the same side.
I thought Vickery struggled a bit yesterday but he was playing against one of the top 2 sides for the year and that would have taught him alot. Play him against Adelaide another disciplined team and he will learn there too. I think someone like JON needs to get dropped. Vickery Post Rance Riewoldt should play for the rest of the year regardless of form and results. It will be the steepest learning curve.
Look at the Saints in 2001 and 2002 copped some frightful beltings playing the kids but by the end of 2003 they were ready to take the next step.
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I would like Post & Vickery in the same side.
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Source at training earlier today was told Postie is definitely playing on Saturday night :thumbsup
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Good!
just take marks Postie!
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Excellent, well done Post, great to see!!
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McRae EOTT report on Post:
"Played clearly his best VFL game to date. Picked up 20 possessions (11 kicks, 9 handballs) and took nine marks, five of them contested, in a variety of roles across the ground. Is playing VFL football at an AFL standard."
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
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Tigers name another cub
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen 5:01 PM Thu 02 July, 2009
THREE weeks, three debutants.
That's the scenario for Richmond coach Jade Rawlings, with Jayden Post into the side this week, following Ty Vickery and Jarrod Silvester who had their first cracks in the past two rounds.
Post was Richmond's second selection (26 overall) in the 2008 NAB AFL Draft and is a key-position player, who used his athleticism to take the most contested and uncontested marks in the TAC Cup last year.
Richmond football manager Ross Monaghan said Post had quickly worked his way up to the AFL.
"He started off the season slowly – first year in the system – and had to work his way through playing some games with the Coburg reserves," he told richmondfc.com.au.
"He did well enough at that level for the selectors at Coburg to think he deserved a game in the seniors. He's been consistent for a few weeks in a row, and last week he had a breakout game with Coburg.
"In a side which was struggling, last week he really put his hand up, worked really hard, and has been rewarded with selection this week."
Monaghan said the 18-year-old was able to play in a range of positions.
"He was originally drafted as a tall defender who could also play forward, but he's also played on the wing with Coburg," he said.
"So he's had a range of experiences and each one he's handled really well and we've been really pleased with his progress."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/79878/default.aspx
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Congrats to Postie. Good luck to him in his debut.
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Not a too bad debut so far. He's a least one positive. Reading the play well and getting the ball on the spread on the way out of the backline.
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What did we all think of Postie's debut?
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good size, good run, showed confidence, kicking problematic at times but overall alot to work with :thumbsup
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Positive stuff, a bit of the old theory - don't think, just do. Lets hope he can he can keep it up.
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Not too bad, first handball was a cracker.
Have to keep him and Vickery in for the experience regardless of how they go.
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Post showed enough...
Keep him and Vickery in till the end of the year, regardless of form. They need to aclimatise to the speed of AFL.
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Post showed enough...
Keep him and Vickery in till the end of the year, regardless of form. They need to aclimatise to the speed of AFL.
Agreed play both of them with Graham for the rest of the year regardless of form and results. Post showed some good signs and Vickery did some nice things too.
Hopefully Connors can be given an opportunity to string half dozen or so games at this level also as I believe he can make it if he gets his head right.
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Post showed some great qualities in awareness, agility and solid mark...needs strength and experience...I liked Vickerys game has shown real improvement with signs he's starting to believe in himself at the level :thumbsup
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He's already 88kg. You'd expect his AFL playing weight when he's in his 20s will be mid-90s. At 6' 5" he's going to be a handful for opposition teams playing wing or key position if his footy ability is as good as his athleticism.
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He's already 88kg. You'd expect his AFL playing weight when he's in his 20s will be mid-90s. At 6' 5" he's going to be a handful for opposition teams playing wing or key position if his footy ability is as good as his athleticism.
Hmmm, could've posted the same thing about 16 years ago.....
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He's already 88kg. You'd expect his AFL playing weight when he's in his 20s will be mid-90s. At 6' 5" he's going to be a handful for opposition teams playing wing or key position if his footy ability is as good as his athleticism.
Hmmm, could've posted the same thing about 16 years ago.....
:thumbsup
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/swapcards/bulluss/richo_1994.jpg)
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A very impressive second half from Postie. The main positive to come out of today's game. Also pleasing he didn't suffer second game blues and actually improved. He looks very comfortably out there for such a young player.
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Ws on my flight last Sunday coming abck from Gold Coast and couldnt believe his size for his age.
Puts others to shame.
Second best thing to come out today. First was Vickery. Gee he looked good today. Post and Vickery are the next big things wait and see
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Vickery's ruckwork is soft as butter. Hope this improves as he gets bigger.
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Vickery's ruckwork is soft as butter. Hope this improves as he gets bigger.
If he doesnt work out as a ruckman he'll be ok as a forward anyway. Vickery will be ok.
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Vickery's ruckwork is soft as butter. Hope this improves as he gets bigger.
He's a kid rucking against men, he shouldn't really be rucking in his first year anyway
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Post just looked to be tossed about by the defenders today, but it was nice to see him put some tackles on.
Vickery was very exciting up forward, very encouraging.
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Vickery and Post are future gems. :pray
Loved their effort and perseverance. Both have shown abit of class. :thumbsup
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Bit excited about this guy :pray
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Vickery's ruckwork is soft as butter. Hope this improves as he gets bigger.
He's a kid rucking against men, he shouldn't really be rucking in his first year anyway
Kruzer did so in his first year and look at him shine now.
Vickery is growing by the week as a forward/ruckman. He will be a gem im sure of it.
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Vickory will get rising star nomination this week surely?
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looks like a forward to me
no need to play him backline
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A couple of big guys in this draft to give us some options and some much needed class in the midfield and we will be back on track.
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looks like a forward to me
no need to play him backline
Postie played mostly in defence in the U18s as a tall marking rebounder but I agree he looked very comfortable playing up forward in the 2nd half yesterday. That mark over the top of the pack was as Bruce would say "special" and his leading inside forward 50 looked very good too. He was able to get clear of his direct opponent to mark in space.
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vickery is improving at a better rate than I thought he would, the next 7 games will do his confidence the world of good and another pre season to add some beef, LOOK OUT :o
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I linked Post in the forwardline but he was certainly lacking in confidence when had to kick for goal. He handed off 2 of the 3 shots at goal when he was in range. Probably just nerves but he needs the self belief if he is to become a true forward.
Stripes
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vickery is improving at a better rate than I thought he would, the next 7 games will do his confidence the world of good and another pre season to add some beef, LOOK OUT :o
Reminds me of Kosi
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Vote for Postie's speckie on the AFL site
http://www.afl.com.au/competitions/mark/mark.aspx
Liam Jurrah (Melbourne) - gigantic leap and mark
Michael Gardiner (St Kilda) - another strong pack mark
Jayden Post (Richmond) - spectacular ride and impressive mark
Walls tonight gave the best mark to Post btw.
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Some exciting signs again yesterday from Postie plus another speckie. The main thing he needs to work on obviously is his goalkicking on the run. A bit like Richo he seemed to think too much about it and shanked the kicks. All 3 shots were gettable. That run and 3 bounces down the wing and inside 50 for a shot on goal was fantastic (apart from the finish) from a 194cm tall :o.
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Could we have found ourselves another Richo?
(Unfortunately) right down to the kicking.
He loves to fly for a mark, loves a run. I hope he can get a Richo-like engine and improve his kicking.
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Could we have found ourselves another Richo?
(Unfortunately) right down to the kicking.
He loves to fly for a mark, loves a run. I hope he can get a Richo-like engine and improve his kicking.
The difference between Richo and POst now may all come down to the coachig they recieve. Richo was allowed a lot of allowances due to his amazing offensive ability that in retrospect he probably shouldn't have recieved.
Post needs to be taught to value the defensive side of the game as much as his offensive side. He needs a development/forward coach to work with his now on set shots, confidence (using the same kicking process regardless of where you are kicking for goal) and screening, blocking, shepherding and dummy leading for other forwards.
If Postie can be taught to be a team player and learn to kick the same way where-ever he goes for goal then we will have a fantastic forward on our hands.
Confidence will be a crucial part to whether he reaches his potential just like it will be for the majority of our young list.
Stripes
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Vote for Postie's speckie on the AFL site
http://www.afl.com.au/competitions/mark/mark.aspx
Liam Jurrah (Melbourne) - gigantic leap and mark
Michael Gardiner (St Kilda) - another strong pack mark
Jayden Post (Richmond) - spectacular ride and impressive mark
Walls tonight gave the best mark to Post btw.
Btw Post won last week's mark of the week with 57% of the vote.
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His mark on the weekend was a ripper as well. Good old fashioned pack grab.
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Could we have found ourselves another Richo?
(Unfortunately) right down to the kicking.
He loves to fly for a mark, loves a run. I hope he can get a Richo-like engine and improve his kicking.
The difference between Richo and POst now may all come down to the coachig they recieve. Richo was allowed a lot of allowances due to his amazing offensive ability that in retrospect he probably shouldn't have recieved.
Post needs to be taught to value the defensive side of the game as much as his offensive side. He needs a development/forward coach to work with his now on set shots, confidence (using the same kicking process regardless of where you are kicking for goal) and screening, blocking, shepherding and dummy leading for other forwards.
If Postie can be taught to be a team player and learn to kick the same way where-ever he goes for goal then we will have a fantastic forward on our hands.
Confidence will be a crucial part to whether he reaches his potential just like it will be for the majority of our young list.
Stripes
Couldn't help yourself Stripes, you must like repeating yourself about Richo. :whistle
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Big unit. Great contested mark. Loves a contest. Jusry still out on his kicking. I think his kicking style is better than Richo's (Richo dosn't guide the ball right down to his foot and loses it midway, hence the reason why he sprays them). Will be a player.
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I'm not too concerned about his kicking. Mechanically it's sound and the ball spins correctly, he just needs some time to ajust to the tempo of the game and gain confidence.
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Could we have found ourselves another Richo?
(Unfortunately) right down to the kicking.
He loves to fly for a mark, loves a run. I hope he can get a Richo-like engine and improve his kicking.
The difference between Richo and POst now may all come down to the coachig they recieve. Richo was allowed a lot of allowances due to his amazing offensive ability that in retrospect he probably shouldn't have recieved.
Post needs to be taught to value the defensive side of the game as much as his offensive side. He needs a development/forward coach to work with his now on set shots, confidence (using the same kicking process regardless of where you are kicking for goal) and screening, blocking, shepherding and dummy leading for other forwards.
If Postie can be taught to be a team player and learn to kick the same way where-ever he goes for goal then we will have a fantastic forward on our hands.
Confidence will be a crucial part to whether he reaches his potential just like it will be for the majority of our young list.
Stripes
Couldn't help yourself Stripes, you must like repeating yourself about Richo. :whistle
Sorry bigtone - I love the guy but he, like the rest of us, is far from perfect. I just wish Richo had recieved the coaching I described. Can you imagine the players he would have been - just mindblowing :o
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The Postmaster must be getting close to a rising star nomination. He may miss out this week to Beams but Postie must be getting very close. Those two marks and goals came at a critical time in the game so we could wrestle back the momentum going into 3/4 time. After fluffing his shots last week it was good to see his first go straight through the middle off the boot :thumbsup.
We haven't had a rising star nomination this year despite all the cubs we've played since Rawlings took over. Collo was probably close then unfortunately got injured.
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Very excited about the potential of the big Post as a FF. He seems to have the marking and kicking skills to be a tremendous target for years to come. Get him in the Gym and that 'Hawkins-like' baby fat will turn into the sort of muscle he needs to smash the pacts.
A lot of upside to Postie :thumbsup
Stripes
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yep lots to like, he got a bit of a towelling from fletcher today but still contributed with some nice marks and 2 goals when they counted too...we need to perservere with him :thumbsup
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Our Recruiting dept has been widely criticized in the past (with good cause)....But whoever is responsible for getting this kid to Punt Rd
at pick 26-WELL DONE.
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Our Recruiting dept has been widely criticized in the past (with good cause)....But whoever is responsible for getting this kid to Punt Rd
at pick 26-WELL DONE.
Amen to that he certainly looks the goods at this stage.
Had to laugh at his first goal, he was looking to pass off a couple of times and I thought this is going anywhere, but he slotted it right through.
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Our Recruiting dept has been widely criticized in the past (with good cause)....But whoever is responsible for getting this kid to Punt Rd
at pick 26-WELL DONE.
I think there was criticism when we picked Postie as well.
McKernan and a few others were still available.
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This article from the local Hobson Bay rag is a month old but some interesting comments from Postie on Jade, Terry and Cuz....
Jayden Post has roar appeal
13 Jul 09 @ 02:44pm by Terry Mallinder
“At the moment, just because we’re pretty well off for key backs, they’re using me up forward with Jack Riewoldt as a second tall marking option,” he said.
“Hopefully I can keep the ability to keep swinging forward or back, it’s something else for my game. If I’m not playing well up forward I can go down back and do something or vice versa.”
Post earned his Tiger stripes with a stand-out performance for VFL affiliate Coburg the week before the Crows clash.
“I knew because Jade (Rawlings) was coaching I wasn’t going to just get given an opportunity, you’d have to deserve it,” he said.
“I started the season in the Coburg reserves, and I thought playing an (AFL) game is still a mile away for me.
“(But) I got my chance in the (VFL) seniors and haven’t looked back since.”
While Post is just enjoying being apart of the AFL and, in particular, the Richmond Football Club, it has been a tumultuous season at Punt Rd, with head coach Terry Wallace stepping aside last month and being replaced by Jade Rawlings, the Coburg coach and Tigers assistant.
``We’ve just had to keep our head down and get on with our footy as per normal,” Post said. “You do take notice of it, but it’s out of your control.
“Because I wasn’t in the (senior) team when Terry was around, I would only speak to him once every two weeks or month or so.
“Because I already had a bit more to do with Jade when he was coaching Coburg, I already had that bit of familiarlarity with him.
Post is confident things will pick up for the club in the very near future.
“There’s a lot more younger guys coming in,” he said. “Bringing in a lot more enthusiasm. I reckon all the guys who are coming into the side are coming into it with the right mind-set.”
Post has also now had the chance of playing alongside former West Coast skipper and Brownlow Medalist Ben Cousins.
“He’s pretty quiet around the club, but then he just grows an extra leg game day,’’ he said. “It’s unbeilevable.
“He’s such a leader. On game day he’s full of encouragement. When he talks you listen. Game day it’s a massive change. He doesn’t shut up.’’
Post admits the queries about the club’s controversies from family and friends have been “monotonous, but it’s a small price to pay I suppose.”
Full story at:
http://hobsons-bay-leader.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/jayden-post-has-roar-appeal/
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Jayden Post has roar appeal
13 Jul 09 @ 02:44pm by Terry Mallinder
“Because I wasn’t in the (senior) team when Terry was around, I would only speak to him once every two weeks or month or so.
Post has also now had the chance of playing alongside former West Coast skipper and Brownlow Medalist Ben Cousins.
“He’s pretty quiet around the club, but then he just grows an extra leg game day,’’ he said. “It’s unbeilevable.
“He’s such a leader. On game day he’s full of encouragement. When he talks you listen. Game day it’s a massive change. He doesn’t shut up.’’
This makes things a bit more clearer doesn't it. If TW barely spoke to the young players when did he spend the time to develop their game? Who built up their confidence? Who taught them where to run, kick to, play a role etc. Without sufficient development coaches or direction it sounds like our young players have had to find their own way for far to long with TW. Disappointing for a coach I rated so highly for so long really.
Interesting with Cuz as well regarding his change of attitude and voice on game day compared to during the week. I think Cuz should be given more opportunities to teach and add voice during the week particularly at training where he can help develop the midfield. We need to embrace our strengths and correct our weaknesses and using Cuz's passion and experience should be a priority.
Stripes
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“Because I wasn’t in the (senior) team when Terry was around, I would only speak to him once every two weeks or month or so."
Poor effort TW. Don't you take any credit for young Jayden's development now will you. ::)
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i hope you play the final two matches Jayden UP FORWARD!!!
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This article from the local Hobson Bay rag is a month old but some interesting comments from Postie on Jade, Terry and Cuz....
“Because I wasn’t in the (senior) team when Terry was around, I would only speak to him once every two weeks or month or so.
oh my goodness
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This article from the local Hobson Bay rag is a month old but some interesting comments from Postie on Jade, Terry and Cuz....
“Because I wasn’t in the (senior) team when Terry was around, I would only speak to him once every two weeks or month or so.
oh my goodness
That says it all dont it, Wallace destroyed the playing list & the club. it was his unfinished buisness.
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I better start this thread off but putting it on the table that I have been very critical of the defensive side of Post's game for some time. More to the point it is actually it is the lack of the defensive side to his game that for mine is the issue.
As I posted a couple of weeks back I for one was not surprised at all that he wasn't playing seniors for a number of the practice games as I just dont think he works hard enough when he hasn't got the ball
Can I also say I have been thinking about this for a while now and have been wondering if it is just me and am I being to hard on the kid? I think he has enormous upside but he he has to tighten up defensively IMHO
I am interested to know what others think because today I was bitterly disappointed with his efforts.
I thought he was lucky to remain in the team this week and was probably only saved by the suspension of a couple of others. With that in mind I just thought today was the day to make a statement and he didn't
It appears he is unwilling to chase or more to the point and to borrow from the Hardwick "mantra" he seems unwilling to go in hard when it is his turn to go. At times he almost seems disinterested. When he was moved forward today Melbourne deliberately cleared out of the D50 through him - well that's how it seemed
So what do we do?
Do we set him certain defensive goals every week to get him to improve his defensive mindset?
I am really interested to know how we go about turning this around because as I said there is a lot of upside in the long term but for now defensively it is major worry
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play him in defence all game and tell him he has a job !!!! defend at all cost!!!! do the 1%ers
and play mguane up forward
just try it
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He seems very slow. Not sure if that's to do with a lack of fitness or whether he's just not trying.
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lack of confidence i think. Probably time to go back to Coburg where hopefully he can get hold of the pill a bit and get some confidence back
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He seems very slow. Not sure if that's to do with a lack of fitness or whether he's just not trying.
maybe both
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Slow, tentative and a little lost.
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sometimes jayden doesnt look like a footballer, Astbury - 1st game, he looks like a footballer and seems to know how to play, I cant say that I see that in Posty but maybe Im wrong.
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i though he actually looks more comfortable in the back hald, admittedly wasn't looking closely at his 1%ers, who was he on? he really looks lost up forward and if that's his bag then Im sorry folks he wont make it...he hasn't taken a mark I50 all year, perhaps 1 but no more :-\
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2nd year blues perhaps
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Coburg until he shows he can play at AFL level
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Post isn't going 100% at the ball everytime or at very least is too reactive. In the couple of games he's played so far this season he's too often looked hesistant expecting someone else to get their first. Hardwick's rule wasn't it that when it's your time to go you go.
I don't blame Postie 100% btw. Club tried to manufacture and pigeon hole him over summer into a KP backman rather than developing his whole game both forward, back and say on a wing. When he finally gets called up a couple of weeks back he's picked as a forward despite spending the previous 4 months solely with the backline group learning their new structures. His confidence looks knocked around. Needs a spell at Coburg to get his hands on the footy.
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Struts around like he is a "'movie star"' outside football,
Got way to ahead of himself,.
A month down in the two,s at Coburg will do the trick !
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WP,
I know you've picked up on teh lack of most youngsters defensive side to their games.
Its all education. No-one picks up a footy at the age of 10 and wants to play AFL by minding another players backside. Everyone wants the ball and to be involved. Post and many others wil learn that their role in the side is to not only get your hands on the footy and keep possession but stop the opposistion getting it at all costs and get it back off them when they have it.
It's just footy education. 2nd year he's a baby, needs to be taught the right lessons.
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at Coburg for six weeks and playing at CENTRE HALF FORWARD!
no where else and only one position!
>:(
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Struts around like he is a "'movie star"' outside football,
Got way to ahead of himself,.
A month down in the two,s at Coburg will do the trick !
Jayden "Pauly Shore" Post should be his nickname untill he actually gets better!
:)
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He's played 10 games.
That obviously enough to predict he wont make it. Delist him.
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He's played 10 games.
That obviously enough to predict he wont make it. Delist him.
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exactly poor bastard needs to be able to get a fair run of consecutive games in one position imo...it has been like a carousel for a few blokes and they get judged harshly on it. This kid has some talent, he just needs to get a fair go.
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Second half today for Coburg was better from Postie. At least involving himself in the play albeit going by the tv vision more as a tall mid/wingman than as a strict KPP. Still needs to show more intensity and purpose.
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tbh I thought he was a better mark than what he has demonstrated...didnt he take like most marks in TAC, sheesh could have fooled me ...I rarely see him clunk a mark when anyone is within spitting distance...Must do a lot more..needs a spell at VFL to really go up a notch before returning to afl level
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did a couple of good things today...
Can't wait till he uses his body as the weapon it should be, busting packs and what not.
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Post looks good in defence and lost up forward. Should have left him in the team. If he's left in defence he'll quickly learn he has to be urgent becuase he'll get goals kicked on him 8)
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if he becomes a CHB then that would be a bonus, right now, Im not confident that he'll be a senior player. Has the size and ability- but theres not alot of aggression or passion or anything that gives you confidence that he likes the contest.
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Post isn't going 100% at the ball everytime or at very least is too reactive. In the couple of games he's played so far this season he's too often looked hesistant expecting someone else to get their first. Hardwick's rule wasn't it that when it's your time to go you go.
I don't blame Postie 100% btw. Club tried to manufacture and pigeon hole him over summer into a KP backman rather than developing his whole game both forward, back and say on a wing. When he finally gets called up a couple of weeks back he's picked as a forward despite spending the previous 4 months solely with the backline group learning their new structures. His confidence looks knocked around. Needs a spell at Coburg to get his hands on the footy.
Forward, back, wing, just like Dean Putt, that worked well, fact is we CAN'T develop talls, Petterson Putt, Hughes, now Rance and Post, you wonder why more mature players like Taylor, Silvagni, Barlow and others have an instant impact, they've been playing 1 position at VFL AND WAFL for 3 or 4 years they actually know what they are doing, we send our young KPPs up and down the ground then have unreal expectations of their capabilities, Post is far to slow to be a key forward,(started the year training with the forwards) needs to be left a CHB at VFL or AFL level and learn that position.
Also 2 years in the gym lifting weights can effect the flexability of talls much more so then mids, Post has a great future if well managed, something we have'nt been good at lately
Our Rucks are also a huge concern in the past 3 years
Putt.......very good 1st year at VFL level, described by Francis Jackson at the end of 2008 as a rd 4 draft gem, delisted in 2009
Vickery...good first year at VFL and ok at AFL level has really struggled to have any impact this year
Browne...good 1st year at VFL level has gone backwards this year, must have given away a dozen kicks in the ruck really stuggling
Graham...good 2008 at VFL level good 2009 at AFL level gone dramaticlaly backwards this year took 1 mark at the 25 min mark of the
last qtr against Frankston
Looks like a very bad pattern developing
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Forward, back, wing, just like Dean Putt, that worked well, fact is we CAN'T develop talls, Petterson Putt, Hughes, now Rance and Post, you wonder why more mature players like Taylor, Silvagni, Barlow and others have an instant impact, they've been playing 1 position at VFL AND WAFL for 3 or 4 years they actually know what they are doing, we send our young KPPs up and down the ground then have unreal expectations of their capabilities, Post is far to slow to be a key forward,(started the year training with the forwards) needs to be left a CHB at VFL or AFL level and learn that position.
Also 2 years in the gym lifting weights can effect the flexability of talls much more so then mids, Post has a great future if well managed, something we have'nt been good at lately
Our Rucks are also a huge concern in the past 3 years
Putt.......very good 1st year at VFL level, described by Francis Jackson at the end of 2008 as a rd 4 draft gem, delisted in 2009
Vickery...good first year at VFL and ok at AFL level has really struggled to have any impact this year
Browne...good 1st year at VFL level has gone backwards this year, must have given away a dozen kicks in the ruck really stuggling
Graham...good 2008 at VFL level good 2009 at AFL level gone dramaticlaly backwards this year took 1 mark at the 25 min mark of the
last qtr against Frankston
Looks like a very bad pattern developing
Taylor, Silvagni & Barlow were all mature age recruits, Taylor more than any I think he was 22-23 when he was selected. I was disappointed in Putt's development, however he had no hunger for the contest, was far too timid.
Vickery is developing fine, he's only a 2nd year ruck and is well ahead of schedule, judge him when he's 23 not 19-20
Browne is from the rookie list and also only in his 2nd year, look at how long Sandilands was in the game before he came good, it doesn't happen overnight. He played well on the weekend for Coburg and was named in the bests, so he may not be too far away from replacing Simmonds.
Post played as a forward all last year at AFL level, then trained in defence all preseason, then was selected and played forward. Is now playing down back again for Coburg. He's getting used to a new game plan and is only in his 2nd year. Stop expecting our kpps to be superstars in their 2nd year. Riewoldt was up and down in his first two years and is starting to come good now, even he's still got a couple more years of development left.
Graham may be a lost cause, shame as he played some half decent games last year. Will be lucky to be on the list if he doesn't pull his finger out.
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Forward, back, wing, just like Dean Putt, that worked well, fact is we CAN'T develop talls, .........Looks like a very bad pattern developing
Jack Riewoldt - Best of the piuck of KP's from 2006. Ahead of Gumbleton, Reid, Brown etc. All players selected before him.
McGuane - Pick 36. Will Thursfield - Rookie, Kel Moore - Rookie
Actually we develop talls as well as anybody. Just got to get enough through the system.
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Actually we develop talls as well as anybody. Just got to get enough through the system.
AND BE PATIENT WHILE THEIR BODIES DEVELOP!!!
I don't know how often some people need to be reminded of this
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post really needs to spend 4-8 weeks at VFL focus on a few areas of his game like contesting, and backing himself to take a grab..before I wanna see him in seniors...
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Lack of pace a worry.
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Post has put on about 7 kilo in the offseason.
It is affecting his agility at the moment.
We have to give him a chance to grow into his body, showed some improving form in the second half last week.
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Moonlighting: Jayden Post
afl.com.au
By Nat Edwards Sat 08 May, 2010
JAYDEN Post was recruited to the Tigers as a 19-year-old in the 2008 NAB AFL Draft. Overlooked in the draft the year before, Post was lucky enough to be handed a second chance by the Western Jets in the under-19s where he proved his talent.
"I never really played football to be the best that I could. I always just played it because I enjoyed it and playing AFL was always a dream, but you never think it could be a reality. I suppose when I got to the Jets I probably didn't play as well as what my talent suggested. Then I started playing on a few good players who got through to that draft year and I got a second chance in the under-19s and I thought this was something that I could do, so I really gave it all that year."
Unsure whether he would get drafted as a 19-year-old, Post turned his focus to university but soon realised a career in football was what he desperately wanted.
"I started uni for six months doing a double degree in exercise science and human movement with sport and recreational management but I ended up deferring that to try and focus on footy. I had a 50-50 chance of being drafted and I thought a career in footy was best and what I wanted."
Local footy was a big part of Post’s childhood. He would spend Saturdays watching the Altona Vikings go around in the Western Region Football League and kicking the footy with his mates.
"I would always be at the local footy on a Saturday because my uncle was a coach of the local senior team at the time and I would always be doing water or running the boundaries so I was always pretty heavily focused on footy. The people I played footy with then are still my best mates today and it’s those kinds of things you get out of it, not just the on-field stuff. I just love the game and enjoy playing it."
As a child, Post followed the rest of his family in supporting the Western Bulldogs, so it's no surprise that Chris Grant was his boyhood hero.
"I had Chris Grant’s number on my back and had all his posters on my wall so I was a big Chris Grant fan. He was always such a presence on the field. I suppose he was like the Rolls Royce of the Bulldogs and he came so close to winning a Brownlow so many times. He could go back, he could go forward, take screamers, kick goals, he just had it all."
Football may be a big part of Post’s life but it’s not his only passion. His love for music has inspired him to take up DJing and start mixing a few tunes.
"I really like music and a few of my friends were thinking about getting some equipment so I thought why not as it's something that is pretty enjoyable. A few of us went out to Dandenong to DJ City and bought three sets of equipment and for the first couple of months I had them I was on them three to five hours a day. I was always pretty independent, trying to teach myself. I'm not very good though, but I can at least mix two songs together."
The 20-year-old lives with new teammates Dustin Martin and Ben Nason and while they all share the cooking duties, Post claims he is the master chef of the house.
"My signature dish would have to be baked beef risotto. I probably make it every two weeks at least. I got the recipe out of one of the AIS cook books. I enjoy cooking and I've got a few dishes that are really easy and simple to make and don't take too long. We usually have got stuff for lunch also for the next day."
Master chef isn’t the only title Post holds. He is always looking for new rivals to take him on at FIFA 10 on PlayStation as Martin and Nason aren’t always willing.
"Pretty much just FIFA 10, that's all we ever really play. I have to add in that I've got the crown at the moment. Ben pretty much refuses to play now because he can't get close to me or Dustin. But Dustin's got a really short attention span so he struggles to sit down for any extended period of time. He's always got to be up and doing stuff. I can never get him to sit down and play PlayStation for long."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/93843/default.aspx
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Will struggle to make it IMHO.
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Will struggle to make it IMHO.
Do you think a lot of his problem is in the mind? Ramps
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Will struggle to make it IMHO.
Do you think a lot of his problem is in the mind? Ramps
In my opinion i would say its 95% of the problem. He appears to have a real confidence issue, amd gets so lost. I really think they need to nail down whether he plays forward or back and leave him there. Having said that maybe a run in the ruck to get comfortable with contact... Im really unsure where he is at this year.
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Will struggle to make it IMHO.
Do you think a lot of his problem is in the mind? Ramps
personally I dont know where he is at, last year he showed really good signs, this year hes struggling really badly, problem of the mind? Only he knows but at the moment he isnt doing anything thats giving us any confidence at all.
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I think must play FF.
His asset is his hands and set shots. Make the most of it at FF at VFL reserves.
No point having him FF at RFC or Coburg where the ball wont be. Have him dominate this year in the VFL reserves.
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Post has put on about 7 kilo in the offseason.
It is affecting his agility at the moment.
We have to give him a chance to grow into his body, showed some improving form in the second half last week.
spot on, his running capacity has been affected which is perfectly natural, someone from the footy department(cant recall who) said as much near the start of the season, when asked why Post wasnt playing he replied he needs to keep working on his repeat running. big frame, good hands, was agile, just down on confidence, once he grows into his body, he'll grow in confidence and show something, but as it stands this season dont expect much
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Will struggle to make it IMHO.
Do you think a lot of his problem is in the mind? Ramps
personally I dont know where he is at, last year he showed really good signs, this year hes struggling really badly, problem of the mind? Only he knows but at the moment he isnt doing anything thats giving us any confidence at all.
no dont agree ramps, Post can play. we should put all our energy into developing him properly
rance on the other hand is for the tip
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Don't worry, Posty, I'll dominate you in FIFA.
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He gained 7kg in preseason, I think it's affected his mobility
Typical 2nd year blues
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He gained 7kg in preseason, I think it's affected his mobility
Typical 2nd year blues
Maybe he just needs another good pre-season under his belt getting accustomed to his heavier frame, I hope he doesn't try to cut down too much though, maybe 2-3 Kilo's.
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How did we all see Post's first game back in the seniors this year?
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Mate of mind I went with can't stand Post and highlighted everything he did wrong. Thought he presented well took a nice mark, unfortunatly didn't convert. His shank OTF wasn't a shot at goal it was a mis guided chip kick he was trying to centre to Jack, didn't kick through it.
His ruck assists I thought were handy as well, having 2 part time ruckman fwds looks a good shape IMO. Especially in the last where Vickery was moved on the ball and was able to have the legs to run off Bellchambers.
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I like his ruckwork. Needs time to adjust to AFL pace.
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S\He says s/he only wanted to play football to enjoy it.
That says it all to me.
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His ruck assists I thought were handy as well, having 2 part time ruckman fwds looks a good shape IMO. Especially in the last where Vickery was moved on the ball and was able to have the legs to run off Bellchambers.
well Articulated
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he looked better than he did last year when he got a game, needs to build on this though, it is only glimpses, cant build a career on that
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Rance is for the tip hey Daniel?
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How did we all see Post's game today in his return to the seniors?
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showed a bit today.
didn't look lost like he has at times previously.
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Looked a lot better down back. Has a nice left foot on him as well. CHB for the rest of the season
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Two thumbs up
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Yep. If McGuane plays before him again then someone should be arsed.
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His other games were reasonably good too. Pretty hard to dominate when you are a sub too. Today was another positive. Should have never been dropped after Dreamtime :thumbsup
Rance had only played 20 games after 3 seasons. Post will have 20 games after this season(his 3rd). He should have a similar rise next year with another 20 games in 2012
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Thought he played well and really put in
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How did we all see Post's game today in his return to the seniors?
I watched the game on the idiot box, but I couldn't work out who the Mailman played on. Can somebody enlighten me please?
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Went alright, worth another shot.
McGuane was ok early for the Burg but faded
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I thought he did what was required plus a bit more. Seems to have all the attributes and is the sort of player who will develop nicely. CHB rest of the season fo sho/ :thumbsup
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How did we all see Post's game today in his return to the seniors?
I watched the game on the idiot box, but I couldn't work out who the Mailman played on. Can somebody enlighten me please?
LRT. The only way to make him better is with games. Leave him in for last 3 games. Let him become our full time CHB next year. Looks like Gourdis and Mcguane will be on the way out. Thursty and Moore will provide good back up.
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I Thought Thursfield played very well competed hard and was solid in his delivery.
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Thursty is out of contract in 3 games whilst McGuane has another year on his (at 400k I might add).
Would anyone dare keep both on the list next year?
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I'd keep Thursty, purely as a depth player.
Maguane should go.
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What happened to Willy's bed time stories?
The Glove has done well in recent weeks.
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Getting better week after week.He made a couple of blews with a hospital handpass and kick on the full,but then did well.Took some awsome grabs in packs and his defending was good to.Work in progress but like what I see and could be like Rance just need's time.I think he just need's to gain confidence.
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Getting better week after week.He made a couple of blews with a hospital handpass and kick on the full,but then did well.Took some awsome grabs in packs and his defending was good to.Work in progress but like what I see and could be like Rance just need's time.I think he just need's to gain confidence.
Being at the game I have to say he did himself no favours yesterday.
I thought he was very poor indeed. Decision making was poor which results in him slowing down the play far too much
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Getting better week after week.He made a couple of blews with a hospital handpass and kick on the full,but then did well.Took some awsome grabs in packs and his defending was good to.Work in progress but like what I see and could be like Rance just need's time.I think he just need's to gain confidence.
Being at the game I have to say he did himself no favours yesterday.
I thought he was very poor indeed. Decision making was poor which results in him slowing down the play far too much
He made couple of blews but he needs to gain confidence and settke down back just as Rance has.
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he's a dumb-ars.
Next!
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Getting better week after week.He made a couple of blews with a hospital handpass and kick on the full,but then did well.Took some awsome grabs in packs and his defending was good to.Work in progress but like what I see and could be like Rance just need's time.I think he just need's to gain confidence.
Being at the game I have to say he did himself no favours yesterday.
I thought he was very poor indeed. Decision making was poor which results in him slowing down the play far too much
Must admit i watched him pretty closely yesterday after thinking maybe i have been to quick to write him off. But yesterday he was as bad as ever. His man (a kid with 10 odd games to his name) kicked five goals that could have easily been seven or eight.
To be totally honest i don't think he has much of an idea. As a backman he gets lost in play and is only good for one effort. Has to play forward if anywhere.
To be fair should be give one last year next year to turn it around but will go on record and say he will not make it.
Happy to be proven wrong of course. :pray
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should be given one more year. Like someone has said on here each young player should be given 2-3 years before they are moved on.
Rance has shown that it can be turned around. 12 Months ago some of us, me included, would include Post and Rance in the same category of would not make it.
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should be given one more year. Like someone has said on here each young player should be given 2-3 years before they are moved on.
That was me ;D
And Post been in the system 3 years now
was very disappointe din his game yesterday
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What do we do with the kid, Wilma? Should hang onto him next year and give him more games, IMO. Could click. Has too much talent to not get another crack
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2 year deal, low dollars.
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I thought he was really poor to be honest. Struggling atm Id trade him out but if no one takes him keep him on for another 12 months on the minimum salary as per AFL rules.
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What do we do with the kid, Wilma? Should hang onto him next year and give him more games, IMO. Could click. Has too much talent to not get another crack
Right at the moment I reckon he fits into the category of too good for VFL but just short of AFL standard.
He's a very contested mark but his decision making in today's game is just where it needs to be to succeed in this comp. I haven't seen iny improvement in him since his first handful of games in 2009 to be honest. IMO he went backwards last year but right now he is where he was in 2009 and that's not enough (again just my opinion)
What I would do is this: we go to trade week and see if we can land a key back, if we do then we have to seriously look at moving him (could see GWS taking him for a 3rd rounder) or we keep him for another year of insurance but I dont' see him as a long termer
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People expect 2 much 2 soon from KPP's.
Rance, Vickery etc
He will improve significantly next year. Ive always seen him as being very backwards in personality, but I thought one thing stood out like dogs balls with him yesterday.
The way he walked into the room to sing the song and his confidence in the group, i just instantly thought, wow, he is ready to really mature and kick on big next year.
Massive attitude change
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Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too
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should be given one more year. Like someone has said on here each young player should be given 2-3 years before they are moved on.
That was me ;D
And Post been in the system 3 years now
was very disappointe din his game yesterday
issue is with Post is that he is completely worthless so another year of minimal salary could not hurt.
You got to remember we dont have much back up in the forward line. Lose Jack, Vickery and Griff doesnt come up and we are stuffed if we have to rely on the fantasy island crew to kick our goals.
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Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too
Surely Big G is getting the ass? He's contracted for 2012 but surely is it a similar contract to Tucks? Or have I given Craig Cameron too much credit here? ;D
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Greek glutes has improved this year.
Keep.
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Buckthorn :lol
I was on Big Gs bandwagon for a few years. even was his advocate for a few years on Beige ;D Seems they've given up on the big fella.
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To harsh on the kid needs time to built confidence and let's be honest first time he has been settled in one position and not moved.There is alot to work with and Leppa will do that.All those 5 goals werent kicked on him by the way and some were free kicks by other players.
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Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too
Gourdis is over rated
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Greek glutes has improved this year.
Keep.
LOL
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Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too
Gourdis is over rated
LMAO, by who?
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To harsh on the kid needs time to built confidence and let's be honest first time he has been settled in one position and not moved.There is alot to work with and Leppa will do that.All those 5 goals werent kicked on him by the way and some were free kicks by other players.
So how much time do you give him? He's had 3 years? DO we waint unitl he has had 5 years?
He is going 22 yo (in Dec) and have you ever asked why he wasn't drafted in the first year he was eligible? We took him in the 2008 draft when he could have been taken the year before. I just wonder a kid of his size why wasn't he taken?
As I said I was at the game on Sunday and I thought he was poor. His decision making slow, his disposal under pressure poor, his ability to hit a team mate by foot when he wasn't under pressure the greatest concern. He played mainly on Gunston and Gunston had running around in circles a lot...
There's a lot of question and right at the minute I cannot see many answers
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Can I add that if it is a choice between keeping Post or Gourdis I'd keep Post in heartbeat and that may be what it comes down too
Gourdis is over rated
LMAO, by who?
By most people, if he was any good, he would have had a regular place in our team.
Dont forget we havent had Moore or Connors all year, Astbury injured, Post out of form, Thursfield struggled early,. Any good he would of played
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What do we do with the kid, Wilma? Should hang onto him next year and give him more games, IMO. Could click. Has too much talent to not get another crack
Right at the moment I reckon he fits into the category of too good for VFL but just short of AFL standard.
He's a very contested mark but his decision making in today's game is just where it needs to be to succeed in this comp. I haven't seen iny improvement in him since his first handful of games in 2009 to be honest. IMO he went backwards last year but right now he is where he was in 2009 and that's not enough (again just my opinion)
What I would do is this: we go to trade week and see if we can land a key back, if we do then we have to seriously look at moving him (could see GWS taking him for a 3rd rounder) or we keep him for another year of insurance but I dont' see him as a long termer
These bigger bodied players take time to mature, (at 195 cm and 93kg and at 22 years old) plus he is relatively mobile. So if we ditch him now we have wasted 3 years. This is the sort of stuff we do, pick up a player at No 26 in the draft and when he is not a superstar or we become impatient we delist them, this would be a very bad decision. He has shown plenty this year, and Dimma finally seems to have decided where Post should play. We have been saying play youth /play youth, this is what happens when you play youth, they learn stuff and they do make mistakes.
We have invested 3 years, PLUS look at how Rance turned the corner this year. I reckon he has plenty and I would endorse a further 2 years.
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What do we do with the kid, Wilma? Should hang onto him next year and give him more games, IMO. Could click. Has too much talent to not get another crack
Right at the moment I reckon he fits into the category of too good for VFL but just short of AFL standard.
He's a very contested mark but his decision making in today's game is just where it needs to be to succeed in this comp. I haven't seen iny improvement in him since his first handful of games in 2009 to be honest. IMO he went backwards last year but right now he is where he was in 2009 and that's not enough (again just my opinion)
What I would do is this: we go to trade week and see if we can land a key back, if we do then we have to seriously look at moving him (could see GWS taking him for a 3rd rounder) or we keep him for another year of insurance but I dont' see him as a long termer
These bigger bodied players take time to mature, (at 195 cm and 93kg and at 22 years old) plus he is relatively mobile. So if we ditch him now we have wasted 3 years. This is the sort of stuff we do, pick up a player at No 26 in the draft and when he is not a superstar or we become impatient we delist them, this would be a very bad decision. He has shown plenty this year, and Dimma finally seems to have decided where Post should play. We have been saying play youth /play youth, this is what happens when you play youth, they learn stuff and they do make mistakes.
We have invested 3 years, PLUS look at how Rance turned the corner this year. I reckon he has plenty and I would endorse a further 2 years.
Yep. :cheers
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Can't see Gourdis make it though it would be a shame given his athletism, speed and smoking hot missus, ;D Jackstar is correct - given the state of our defense this year, if he has not been able to break into the back 6 in 2011 he will have little chance when all our defenders return and begin to develop and fight for places. We really need his spot for additional midfield depth now.
Post has far more upside than Gourdis. Post actually reminds me a bit of Rance the way he seems so nervous and makes the silly mistakes which turns the ball over. His deficencies are mainly due to nerves and inexperience. Given the same time and development opportunites that Rance took, he could easily be just as good. The big indicators is though, has he the determination to seek out help, put in the extra time and fight for his future like Rance did???
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I disagree Sripes.
My biggest concern with Post is his speed. Rance has never been lacking in this department.
I do agree that many of his mistakes are due to a lack of confidence, however if you're a slow KPP, you wanna be seriously skilled in other departments. Not sure if Posty has the tools. But i'm preferred to give him another year. Lets see how he goes this weekend.
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If Rance can improve his kicking anyone can.
This time last year amny were willing to write Rance off. He has come on.
I think Post is a similar type of player. He deserves another year to see what he is worth.
His contested marking from kickouts on the weekend was great.
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Looked good again last night nice grabs and spoiling was great.Alot to work with need's a big preseason and I reckon we got a player.
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Looked good again last night nice grabs and spoiling was great.Alot to work with need's a big preseason and I reckon we got a player.
Yep a couple of good contested marks, granted
But the same old same old, poor & slow decision making, his opponent running off too easily...
I don't think we have a player
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Looked good again last night nice grabs and spoiling was great.Alot to work with need's a big preseason and I reckon we got a player.
Yep a couple of good contested marks, granted
But the same old same old, poor & slow decision making, his opponent running off too easily...
I don't think we have a player
I took more positives than negatives out of his performance tbh. Thought he showed good reading of the play on several occassions. But was dissapointing he was allowing that first gamer to be so influential early on. Still small steps and he is very raw. Needs a big preseason, still looks like a raw ungainly colt out there
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I took more positives than negatives out of his performance tbh. Thought he showed good reading of the play on several occassions. But was dissapointing he was allowing that first gamer to be so influential early on. Still small steps and he is very raw. Needs a big preseason, still looks like a raw ungainly colt out there
Look I know I am harsh on the kid but I think he deserves it.
He was drafted a year later than most of his peers and I have no doubt now that there was a reason and it sadly shows = far too many question marks, very few answers
this was his 3rd season and I don't think he has improved from his first season when he showed a lot of promise.... I wonder if he is a bit like Tucky in that he struggles we getting his head around all the structures, team plays etc
DOnt' know but I think it again comes back to how long do you give someone
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Would rather give Post another year than anyone like Hislop Jako Farmer.
At least Post has a dip and does some nice things.
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Might survive the cull purely because of the amount of crap we have and the limited talent we can bring in.
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Might survive the cull purely because of the amount of crap we have and the limited talent we can bring in.
yep that could apply to a few I reckon
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I see Post being a slow version of Sam Fisher. Fills the whole and is a really reliable mark in packs and as 3rd man up. Saints go to either a McEvoy or Fisher every time from kickouts. Post could really help us improve that area with his marking ability on half back.
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If Astbury steps up alone with Grimes he may be struggling for a place in the side next year. At present though, he is ahead of Astbury but we'll see after the preseason.
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Not sure if Post ahead of Astbury. Post is a good mark. Needs to work on other aspects of his game. Won't delist him this year.
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post wasnt slow at decision making, the team were slow at giving him options as most times he had nothing rEALLY to go to
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post wasnt slow at decision making, the team were slow at giving him options as most times he had nothing rEALLY to go to
But what aobut the time they did give him options, the times Lids and Houli ran for him and he just kept looking, eventually kicks it or handballs to a contest.
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Couldn't be happier with Post lately. Dunno what anyones problem is in here. He's not as quick as Rance, but he's alot better in the air. I see him improving like Rance in 2012
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I think his disposal is very average. Not sure on the stats but I can hardly recall him hitting a target.
He is a good mark and if he can spend the summer absorbing some of Rance's determination, desperation and work rate, then he could be a keeper. Agree with most that I would give him another year. But they need to give him a decent run in the seniors so that he can build some confidence.
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I think his disposal is very average. Not sure on the stats but I can hardly recall him hitting a target.
He is a good mark and if he can spend the summer absorbing some of Rance's determination, desperation and work rate, then he could be a keeper. Agree with most that I would give him another year. But they need to give him a decent run in the seniors so that he can build some confidence.
He's a pretty good kick on both feet. Future is on the rise
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post wasnt slow at decision making, the team were slow at giving him options as most times he had nothing rEALLY to go to
But what aobut the time they did give him options, the times Lids and Houli ran for him and he just kept looking, eventually kicks it or handballs to a contest.
lids and houli weer both covered at the time, would have been a mistake going to them, i recall that vividly, and post is following th egame plan , unlike many of his team mates thats why he seems to stop
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jpost37 Jayden Post twitter
"I've got one more year on the contract... hopefully another 8 or so after that :)"
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jpost37 Jayden Post twitter
"I've got one more year on the contract... hopefully another 8 or so after that :)"
Hope Posty makes it. Needs to continue to develop next year.
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Will be an excellent player for many years to come.
TBR said it, so mark it down.
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Heard on SEN rumour mill that the Bulldogs are interested in Post.
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To pee on?
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Snip! Enough of the toilet humour people :banghead
The dags can have Post for Roughhead
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dont the bullies have a compo pick. I would trade him for their compo pick.
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dont the bullies have a compo pick. I would trade him for their compo pick.
O.K Adelaide :lol :lol :lol
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dont the bullies have a compo pick. I would trade him for their compo pick.
O.K Adelaide :lol :lol :lol
Buy Low and Sell High Tassieboy but whatever you do dont ever buy high and sell low. In other words we tell Adelaide to get stuffed but tell the bullies that Posty is the best key position weve had in years and therefore he costs - alot :lol
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Will be an excellent player for many years to come.
TBR said it, so mark it down.
x 2
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Will be an excellent player for many years to come.
TBR said it, so mark it down.
x 2
Needs to do alot of work to just become a handy player let alone an excellent player. A long long way to go - hopefully though he gets there.
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Heard on SEN rumour mill that the Bulldogs are interested in Post.
I'd believe this as they were very keen on drafting post when we picked him up. They kept close tabs on him when he was tearing it up for the jets.
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Heard on SEN rumour mill that the Bulldogs are interested in Post.
Straight swap for Roughhead.....???
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Heard on SEN rumour mill that the Bulldogs are interested in Post.
Straight swap for Roughhead.....???
No chance - Roughead is worth a lot more
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Heard on SEN rumour mill that the Bulldogs are interested in Post.
Straight swap for Roughhead.....???
No chance - Roughead is worth a lot more
We need to get it done then :lol :lol
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Former Western Jets teammate Jayden Post is another example of how hard getting to the professional level can be.
In 2007, the Western Jets key defender nominated for the draft and missed out.
He was given the chance to come back for another year as an overage player with the Jets.
Post was eligible for the draft in 2007 but never thought about nominating. He never considered himself a realistic chance.
“I hadn’t spoken to any clubs, been to state screenings or necessarily played that well,” Post said.
“Shane Sexton called me and said I may as well put a nomination in and see what happens.”
For Post, AFL never seemed to be on the radar.
“I suppose growing up you always want to play AFL but I never really thought I was good enough so it was never really much a dream of mine to play AFL,” Post said.
“Once I got to the Jets and had this practice match where I played really well and felt that if I can play well at this level and people can see it and notice and I can do it consistently I might get lucky enough”
“My first year was disappointing at the Jets and my second year started off disappointing but then they moved me to centre-half back and I started slowly progressing and getting more confident each week.”
“Then when I was overlooked I had an inkling that I was going to get a shot as a 19 year old. I just thought if I was going to have one more go as a 19 year old I may as well give it my best shot.”
Post considers himself lucky that he was given a second chance. TAC Cup clubs are only given two spots for 19 year olds each year but the Jets were given four being the smallest region.
Never being part of Western Jets development squads in previous years there’s no doubt recruiters believed Post would see continual development as a player. After all, key position players usually take time.
As time went by at the Jets, Post continued to progress and develop as a player. He started to believe he could be a realistic chance.
In one Jets final Post had 35 touches and took 18 marks. Some say he was drafted on the back of this one game. Post said that he met with about 10 or 11 AFL clubs not long after that final.
“A lot of people talk about the final. It was just one of those days where everything sort of bounces your way but I did have a consistent year and it wasn’t just the one game,” Post said.
In 2008 he lead the TAC Cup in contested and uncontested marks. There’s no doubt Jayden Post had arrived. He also won the club best and fairest in 2008.
Post puts a lot of his improvement down to the help of his personal trainer. He was training like a professional AFL athlete in his TAC Cup year. The strength and power training was invaluable.
“It snowballed from there, once I played a good game I’d back it up and I knew it wasn’t a one off again, and I started believing I was too good even for the TAC,” Post said.
The penny dropped for Jayden when Essendon told him that he would be drafted. Post was skeptical.
“No one ever makes you promises like that, I’ve heard so many stories” Post said.
“They said they’d guarantee that they’d take me even if I was still available at their last pick.”
Post became confident that he would be picked up. On draft day he listened on the radio with family and close friends at the footy club.
Post would become a Tiger. Richmond selected him with pick 26 in the AFL National draft.
“When they call out your names, they call your player number first and I was the only one that knew my player number. It was just that split second before everyone else I knew I was going to the Tiges,” as Post reflects on draft day.
Post has played 22 games for Richmond.
http://thefinalsiren.com/2011/11/04/the-afl-journey-is-a-difficult-one-at-the-best-of-times/
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...sounds like he has a history of "not believing" he's going to make it - which seems to have carried on to AFL level (granted one game in/2 games out doesn't help confidence)...hopefully the penny drops and he realises he has the attributes to be a key contributor (or at the very least a solid player)...continues to show enough glimpses to tease but yet to kick on...he & Griff could have a big say in our future....
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Did post stand out in the TAC because he was a year older than most opponents and had a personal trainer, ensuring his fitness was also greater than most? :huh :-\
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Postie turns 22 today :birthday
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Postie turns 22 today :birthday
Hope he has a ripper 2012 :birthday
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Under the Tigerscope with Jayden Post....
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/?nvId=423052
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If Postie can reproduce last night's form most weeks in the real stuff then we're finally looking at him having that breakout season we've been waiting for. He looked more self-assured playing down back last night as shown by those couple of those crucial contested marks which saved goals. Well done Postie and keep it up that standard from now on. Although Rance was a bit off last night it looks like the key posts in the backline come round 1 will be Post and Rance with Grimes as the 3rd tall.
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We need to persevere with our young talls. I see promise in all of : Rance/Grimes/Post/Astbury. Well done to Posty last night.
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We need to persevere with our young talls. I see promise in all of : Rance/Grimes/Post/Astbury. Well done to Posty last night.
I would add Kelvin Moore as a possibility as well.
And Newman, Batch and Houli as the other permanent backmen.
:cheers
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Post has a great leap and mark. He'll be a spoiling machine
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Post has a great leap and mark. He'll be a spoiling machine
Yep. Play Post over McGuane. The kid showed last night that he could be a lot more valuable than McGuane.
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If Postie can reproduce last night's form most weeks in the real stuff then we're finally looking at him having that breakout season we've been waiting for. He looked more self-assured playing down back last night as shown by those couple of those crucial contested marks which saved goals. Well done Postie and keep it up that standard from now on. Although Rance was a bit off last night it looks like the key posts in the backline come round 1 will be Post and Rance with Grimes as the 3rd tall.
Post also took some strong marks as a target coming deep out of defence which you really need from your CHB.
Still early days yet for him, but some good signs last night
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Agree. McGeebanger and One-Shoe Shaun should be shipped off to naru.
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Post was great last night. Looked really good. Streets ahead of McGuane on last nights effort.
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best Ive seen of Posty, a lock for CHB in R 1 ..i like the boy :shh
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No worries moonface
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No worries moonface
whats with thwe name calling you idiot :lol
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Thats great to hear about Post, I really hope he carries this form into the season, we have put so much faith and time into this kid, lets hope it's pay back time.
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dunno about time and faith. been here 3 seasons and gets dropped at the first sign of trouble while Hardwicks favourites get an armchair ride
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Moonface, Bert Newton, he said "I like the boy" to Mohammed Ali (and nearly got his block knocked off lol)
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Owl sees everything :o
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best Ive seen of Posty, a lock for CHB in R 1 ..i like the boy :shh
I see Owls joke, :lol
Posty, he looks good a bit of the time so :shh, it would improve our back line if he was good some of the time :thumbsup but I'd be pumped if he was good a lot of the time :santa :birthday
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Moonface, Bert Newton, he said "I like the boy" to Mohammed Ali (and nearly got his block knocked off lol)
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ok, :lol...yeah you got it in one
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...thought posty was really solid last night - still got a few areas to improve but was a step up on McG & got to the right spot in contests...hopefully a breakout year for the kid - could be real important to our development (add Astbury, Grimes, Rance & we have some solid/good key talls)...
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Postie could be playing for his future today. For our sake he's going to have to shutdown one of Hansen or Tarrant and maybe even get some time on Petrie depending on how Rance goes.
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Postie could be playing for his future today. For our sake he's going to have to shutdown one of Hansen or Tarrant and maybe even get some time on Petrie depending on how Rance goes.
What if we play him forward?
Doesn't have the skills to play back.
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Reckon if posty plays back we are in serious trouble today.probably have to go with moore and rance,maybe McGuane can help too if things really get bad down back.As coburg showed yesterday this cupboard is well and truly bare for talent at the moment.i remember the first game of the season against carlton,the blues were obviously under instructions to play through posty,they took him appart that night .
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Will be permanently attached to the goal posts
Great camera
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You goto wonder if we picked beams and the pies picked Post if the future would look any different now.
We might be kicking ourselves for not picking up a power KPP over a hack fringe player who can't cement a regular game.
I guess we'll never know.
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Up to half time, he's doing OK against North
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Did ok today.
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We probably need to wait for the WP report on Postie, but on the box, he didn't do too badly. You just can't see his work off the ball and his positioning outside the viewfinder. I didn't see him provide a long option down the line today, or a target for a kick out, but maybe that wasn't his instructions..
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Trade at seasons end IMHO.
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I think he played well. Will be in the team next week.
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I think he played well. Will be in the team next week.
Played well and was competitive. Plenty of others had lesser impact on the game.
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We probably need to wait for the WP report on Postie, but on the box, he didn't do too badly. You just can't see his work off the ball and his positioning outside the viewfinder. I didn't see him provide a long option down the line today, or a target for a kick out, but maybe that wasn't his instructions..
agreed. On the box he looked ok. Took some good contested marks. But disposal let him down a few times.
Other than that probably best game he's played for the club.
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Yep was okay today and took some nice marks but needs to do alot more.
Yep possible trade to the Dogs as they were interested last trade period.
What do they have that we would want? If nothing a second rounder possibly?
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Terrific just terrific
That's all, really what's the point
:outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow
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Terrific just terrific
That's all, really what's the point
:outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
:lol
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I think WP is on the trade him bandwagon :gotigers
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Terrific just terrific
That's all, really what's the point
:outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
:lol
I have nothing to say on this matter
Terrific, just terrific ;D
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Yeah Post was serviceable.
Still seems a long way away. Needs to take the next step. Think next year will be a make or break for Posty, this was probably his last year of having the 'development youth' excuse for not holding down a spot in the best 22.
Will be 23 in next pre season. 5th year in the system needs to get some consistency.
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Played well today.
Tracking nicely for a young big bloke I reckon.
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Terrific just terrific
That's all, really what's the point
:outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
:lol
I have nothing to say on this matter
Terrific, just terrific ;D
Seriously, spit it out. From what I saw, he didn't get a goal kicked on him and he was able to help a team mate out several times by going 3rd man up. His spoil (late in the 3rd I think) was sensational. He made some great spoils yesterday.
What was your problem with his game? No doubt he can improve on his decision making. He also needs to take those marks if he's decided not to spoil. Other than that Posty can be alright.
What you think of Rancey's last term?
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agree played okay
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Seriously, spit it out. From what I saw, he didn't get a goal kicked on him and he was able to help a team mate out several times by going 3rd man up. His spoil (late in the 3rd I think) was sensational. He made some great spoils yesterday.
What was your problem with his game? No doubt he can improve on his decision making. He also needs to take those marks if he's decided not to spoil. Other than that Posty can be alright.
What you think of Rancey's last term?
to both questions
Terrific, just terrific
Seriously I am not here nor there with his game, yep some nice spoils (couple should have been marks) but his intensity in the contest is still a major concern (have as look at his chase (jog) in the final 5 minutes when he was up forward and you'll see what I mean) but as I said I am not here nor there; soimply have no view one way or another
So instead of being critical of any of them I'll just leave it at
Terrific, just terrific
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I think we should keep him for another year,he's a confidence player. He could be a handy swingman. When his confidence is up he will take those marks down back. If he drops one early then he might decide to spoil for most of the day. I think we need to stick with the kid and give him one more year. Plenty to work on but there's a few that need to go before Jayden. I thought his attack on the footy was reasonable yesterday.
There might just be room for 9 Posts on a footy field. Hopefully.
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Given an easier task than round 1 and did ok. Still not convinced but should play again next week to see if he can redeem himself for his last disaster against the Blues.
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Terrific just terrific
That's all, really what's the point
:outtahere
:eyebrow :eyebrow
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
:lol
I have nothing to say on this matter
Terrific, just terrific ;D
Seriously, spit it out. From what I saw, he didn't get a goal kicked on him and he was able to help a team mate out several times by going 3rd man up. His spoil (late in the 3rd I think) was sensational. He made some great spoils yesterday.
What was your problem with his game? No doubt he can improve on his decision making. He also needs to take those marks if he's decided not to spoil. Other than that Posty can be alright.
What you think of Rancey's last term?
Rance was beaten by a better and bigger player for 15 minutes in the last quarter. Otherwise he was very good. Weve always known that we needed a bigger type defender. Grimes missing also plays a part, his ability to go up and spoil would have been great yesterday.
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No doubt Rance was good for 3 quarters. he is a good player. He's just not quite good enough to play on the best forwards 1 on 1 deep.
Merrett.
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Gun. Give him 5 years
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:banghead
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Seriously, spit it out. From what I saw, he didn't get a goal kicked on him and he was able to help a team mate out several times by going 3rd man up. His spoil (late in the 3rd I think) was sensational. He made some great spoils yesterday.
What was your problem with his game? No doubt he can improve on his decision making. He also needs to take those marks if he's decided not to spoil. Other than that Posty can be alright.
What you think of Rancey's last term?
to both questions
Terrific, just terrific
Seriously I am not here nor there with his game, yep some nice spoils (couple should have been marks) but his intensity in the contest is still a major concern (have as look at his chase (jog) in the final 5 minutes when he was up forward and you'll see what I mean) but as I said I am not here nor there; soimply have no view one way or another
So instead of being critical of any of them I'll just leave it at
Terrific, just terrific
I'd love Posty to succed, and I think he showed better signs than what he has, but he is still too far off the mark. I liked that after one spoil he got into his opponent for not marking it, that looked to show he was getting some passion into his game, but after that there wasn't enough.
I can recall a few good spoils over the top, but some double fisted ones that kept me thinking, if you can get 2 hands to the ball to spoil, why the hell cant you mark the thing? For year 4-5 (??) in the club, just hasn't given enough to stay on beyond this year IMO.
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Agree with double fisting. Leave that to Elton John
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was decent thats for sure. surely we by we i mean the club got it wrong in not playing this bloke a bit more this yr. rnd 1 was not the disaster most made it out to be but this bloke has been made to wait 15 weeks before we see him again. in the mean time we play badly out of form and injured blokes like vickery. hacks like miller who have no future. and mcguane the chronically underperforming 9 yr player who we have surely seen enough of.
while im on this topic. most are ripping into a maric. personally id give him another season there is good signs along with the bad . got afeeling when he thinks he belongs at this level he will go up a few levels. i like the look of him in most areas more than some of the regulars.
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A superstar in the making, that's for. We just some more blokes like Post, Miller and A. Maric and woah look out. I saw Post spoil once. Have even seen Miller lead once. Can't believe the morons at our club keep getting it WRONG by not playing these kids :banghead
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A superstar in the making, that's for. We just some more blokes like Post, Miller and A. Maric and woah look out. I saw Post spoil once. Have even seen Miller lead once. Can't believe the morons at our club keep getting it WRONG by not playing these kids :banghead
Why are you being such a pain? Can you give us your thoughts on Post? Obviusly you think he's a donkey with the way you're replying to these posts but you won't outline your reasoning. Why?
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Quote me where I said that. I called him a gun :shh
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Gun. Give him 5 years
Why give an unproven player a five year contract? Do you know anything?
:shh
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How dare you question me, partner :shh
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I hate you :shh
:outtahere
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Topic minus the personal insults people :banghead
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:banghead
:lol
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:banghead
:lol
terrific, just terrific
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:banghead
:lol
terrific, just terrific
30 years of things being terrific, just terrific :banghead
Oh FFS :banghead
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:banghead
:lol
terrific, just terrific
30 years of things being terrific, just terrific :banghead
Oh FFS :banghead
That's the spirit
Terrific, just terrific
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:lol
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What's with this 'played ok', or 'was serviceable' bullcrap. He played very well and should have been given many more games this year. Shouldn't have even been dropped after Round 1 imo. A young tall trying to get some experience do have some bad games. Why would you not want him on the list next year? Miller and Mcguane will probably be gone after this year. Post should be part of our spine from now on. Griffiths is the big defender, Rance and Grimes are the other tall defenders. Reiwoldt and Vickery are our 2 best tall forwards and Post is next best. Astbury and Elton are a while off still and Derrickx is 50-50 of being retained. We must keep Post. If we get 2 injuries to talls we're stuffed without Post. I believe Griffiths and Post should play every week and they should be rotating swingmen from forward to defence depending on our opponents. Post has deserved a game as much as Griffiths, Miller, Derrickx and Elton judging on their form at Coburg. Here's the 22 I'd like to see next season:
FB houli rance newman
HB grimes griffiths morris
C conca cotchin edwards
HF ohanlon post king
FF vickery reiwoldt nahas
FOLL maric martin deledio
INT foley grigg jackson ellis
Tuck will be in the 22 as long as he isn't planning on retiring
post/griffiths rotating spots
with delisting/retirements miller, moore, graham, mcguane, connors, macdonald
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
I reckon 30 years of crap has ruined your brain. You want 6 careys to form our spine and nothing less
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Post is like McGuane
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What's with this 'played ok', or 'was serviceable' bullcrap. He played very well and should have been given many more games this year. Shouldn't have even been dropped after Round 1 imo.
Seriously if you don't know why he was dropped after round 1 then you really need to get a copy of the game and watch it very closely. Because it is blatantly obvious, there for the world to see why he was dropped
But no
Terrific, just terrific
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What's with this 'played ok', or 'was serviceable' bullcrap. He played very well and should have been given many more games this year. Shouldn't have even been dropped after Round 1 imo.
Seriously if you don't know why he was dropped after round 1 then you really need to get a copy of the game and watch it very closely. Because it is blatantly obvious, there for the world to see why he was dropped
But no
Terrific, just terrific
Part of development mate. Playing on a 201cm jumping forward isn't easy. 7 goal loss, 3 goals to hampson. Not as bad as it sounds. He got caught by Gartless once. That's happened to alot of players too. How many times has Shoenmarkers been smashed like that in the last 18 months? 10 plus times. He's still getting games. Post has looked reasonably good in most of his richmond games apart from a couple only. The only way he'll improve is with more senior games. I'd much prefer him playing than Miller, Mcguane and Moore
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"8 posts on a footy field is enough . . ." :rollin
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
You think Post should be delisted? If so, who else goes with him? We can't delist all our average players in one go. I'd prefer Post gets another crack (as long as he performs for us for the rest of the season) over quite a few others.
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Part of development mate. Playing on a 201cm jumping forward isn't easy. 7 goal loss, 3 goals to hampson. Not as bad as it sounds. He got caught by Gartless once. That's happened to alot of players too. How many times has Shoenmarkers been smashed like that in the last 18 months? 10 plus times. He's still getting games. Post has looked reasonably good in most of his richmond games apart from a couple only. The only way he'll improve is with more senior games. I'd much prefer him playing than Miller, Mcguane and Moore
Your response just proves you don't know why he was dropped.
Development? Please give me a break
It had nothing to do with how many goals Hampson kicked or getting burnt off by Garlett - nothing.
As I said get a copy of the game and watch it closely and you will see the main reason and here's a hint it isn't pretty
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Developing for 4.5 years? Time to cut your losses.
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Developing for 4.5 years? Time to cut your losses.
Bit harsh on Vickery mate
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Developing for 4.5 years? Time to cut your losses.
Bit harsh on Vickery mate
TV has actually played decent games for the RFC . . . albeit in 2011 :shh
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You think Post should be delisted? If so, who else goes with him? We can't delist all our average players in one go. I'd prefer Post gets another crack (as long as he performs for us for the rest of the season) over quite a few others.
I suppose part of it will come down to who we target in Free Agency and trade for doesn't it?
If we manage to trade for or via Free Agency get a big bodied KPD then doesn't Post become expendable?
Alternatively, who do you place more value on Griffith or Post? Because I would think both are fighting for The same list spot.
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Part of development mate. Playing on a 201cm jumping forward isn't easy. 7 goal loss, 3 goals to hampson. Not as bad as it sounds. He got caught by Gartless once. That's happened to alot of players too. How many times has Shoenmarkers been smashed like that in the last 18 months? 10 plus times. He's still getting games. Post has looked reasonably good in most of his richmond games apart from a couple only. The only way he'll improve is with more senior games. I'd much prefer him playing than Miller, Mcguane and Moore
Your response just proves you don't know why he was dropped.
Development? Please give me a break
It had nothing to do with how many goals Hampson kicked or getting burnt off by Garlett - nothing.
As I said get a copy of the game and watch it closely and you will see the main reason and here's a hint it isn't pretty
I'm rating him on yesterdays game and his other solids richmond games. If he stayed in defence for the last quarter we probably would have won the game. He had tarrant removed from the game. Smashed him while helping Rance a heap on Petrie. If you can't see that you really don't know what you're on about. You can't see crap on a replay anyway. Being at the game shows everything which is up/downfield. Rating playings on tv is the biggest mistake. First game of the year players are rusty and struggle with the pace of a first real hitout
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You've got no idea what WP is on about, Madtugger. What is one thing that a bloke like Morris always brings to the table?? Give you a tip, it's something that was missing from Posty's game in a big way in round one.
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You've got no idea what WP is on about, Madtugger. What is one thing that a bloke like Morris always brings to the table?? Give you a tip, it's something that was missing from Posty's game in a big way in round one.
Thanks Coach
If the Mad one wants me to spell it out then I will
And just one more thing Madtiger, I go to all games. So what I am talking about regarding Post in round 1 was not something I saw on the Telly but what I saw first hand on the night. The fact that 15 weeks later I still remember it as clear as if it happened 10 mins ago highlights how bad it was
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You've got no idea what WP is on about, Madtugger. What is one thing that a bloke like Morris always brings to the table?? Give you a tip, it's something that was missing from Posty's game in a big way in round one.
Thanks Coach
If the Mad one wants me to spell it out then I will
And just one more thing Madtiger, I go to all games. So what I am talking about regarding Post in round 1 was not something I saw on the Telly but what I saw first hand on the night. The fact that 15 weeks later I still remember it as clear as if it happened 10 mins ago high
iChat's how bad it was
Post is softer than whipped butter.
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Part of development mate. Playing on a 201cm jumping forward isn't easy. 7 goal loss, 3 goals to hampson. Not as bad as it sounds. He got caught by Gartless once. That's happened to alot of players too. How many times has Shoenmarkers been smashed like that in the last 18 months? 10 plus times. He's still getting games. Post has looked reasonably good in most of his richmond games apart from a couple only. The only way he'll improve is with more senior games. I'd much prefer him playing than Miller, Mcguane and Moore
Your response just proves you don't know why he was dropped.
Development? Please give me a break
It had nothing to do with how many goals Hampson kicked or getting burnt off by Garlett - nothing.
As I said get a copy of the game and watch it closely and you will see the main reason and here's a hint it isn't pretty
I'm rating him on yesterdays game and his other solids richmond games. If he stayed in defence for the last quarter we probably would have won the game. He had tarrant removed from the game. Smashed him while helping Rance a heap on Petrie. If you can't see that you really don't know what you're on about. You can't see crap on a replay anyway. Being at the game shows everything which is up/downfield. Rating playings on tv is the biggest mistake. First game of the year players are rusty and struggle with the pace of a first real hitout
I'll go with WP on this. First game Post was rusty? It was the first game for everyone that night.
First game for Garlett who tackled him cold in Round 1 also.
Right now Post is just an average player at best.
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Posty has had poor efforts but I have seen him go back with the flighty too many times to label him as soft. At times he is (round one being a nightmare) but still think he could offer something. Frustrating player.
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Posty has had poor efforts but I have seen him go back with the flighty too many times to label him as soft. At times he is (round one being a nightmare) but still think he could offer something. Frustrating player.
Is more often cold than warm let alone hot, needs to go. I don't rate him as a depth player, and right now we are scraping the barrel for depth which is why he is getting a game.
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Posty has had poor efforts but I have seen him go back with the flighty too many times to label him as soft. At times he is (round one being a nightmare) but still think he could offer something. Frustrating player.
I suppose that's the issue isn't it Coach.
You obviously remember more of him going back with the flight of the ball. I have too many memories of him pulling out of contests or not going in for the ball. Round 1 being the most recent one but that wasnt the first unfortunately
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JP is 22 years 5 months old and listed at 195cm
TV is 22 years 1 month old listed at 200cm
I think I would be keeping JP in front of players like McGuane, Jackson, Newman, would love to have Grimes on the field every week but he isn't, moore is only jsu back in and who knows how he will go injury wise. Derrickx, Griffiths, Browne,
There are a lot of players who could go before JP.
We have persevered with TV this year, I think play posty every game for the rest pof the year, move him around.
Remember they were trying to handball Tuck last year, no one even picked him up in the ps draft now he is in our top 8.
JP needs a chance, 4.5 years and he goes now?? This would be a waste in my books. Nothing to lose for the year, play him Tom Derrickx every game, if no good bye bye if OK keep them both in front of other players.
At least his age is an upside and if you are talking about heart look at how shaw shirked it for Collingwood now he is pretty handy in Sydneys lineup.
I think posty has enough upside.
KEEP POST!!!
We need to drop our dud players now and put hopefuls in for the rest of the year. I don't care how we go from now but FFS stop playing the usual suspects and play some fresh hopeful players to give them experience. This crap of trying to get a win every week to appease supporters now counts for absolutely nothing. It's next year which is important now so lets start to works out our list and have a monty cleanout.
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Post has played less than 4 seasons. He should have played another 15 games. Club should have persisted earlier
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Post has played less than 4 seasons. He should have played another 15 games. Club should have persisted earlier
Agree 100%
What I cant understand is we have been giving easy games to Miller and MGaune and Post finally gets a crack on the weekend after rd 1.Alot more to work with him in the team.Confidence is what Post needs and that comes with game time !!!!.
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Post has played less than 4 seasons. He should have played another 15 games. Club should have persisted earlier
Agree 100%
What I cant understand is we have been giving easy games to Miller and MGaune and Post finally gets a crack on the weekend after rd 1.Alot more to work with him in the team.Confidence is what Post needs and that comes with game time !!!!.
Yeah I agree 150%
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There is no issue with his 'skill base', its his attack on the ball and the man. I don't think these are things that are developed either (so that excuse doesn't fly), unlike understanding the game plan and where to move the ball. He should have the 'grunt', so to speak, to go and attack the man and barge through some packs from before he was drafted. God knows he has the size to make an impact on field and instead he prefers to 'not get involved'.
Agree there are others to be moved on first, but he isn't safe if we get recruiting some players from other clubs through FA and trades.
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Gotta agree MM, thought his game was average at best. Better than his recent efforts but still nothing to make me think he will make it.
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You've got no idea what WP is on about, Madtugger. What is one thing that a bloke like Morris always brings to the table?? Give you a tip, it's something that was missing from Posty's game in a big way in round one.
Thanks Coach
If the Mad one wants me to spell it out then I will
And just one more thing Madtiger, I go to all games. So what I am talking about regarding Post in round 1 was not something I saw on the Telly but what I saw first hand on the night. The fact that 15 weeks later I still remember it as clear as if it happened 10 mins ago high
iChat's how bad it was
Post is softer than whipped butter.
Should package him with Gus as the Dairy Twins.
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Houli makes both of them look like Archer and Carey
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Part of development mate. Playing on a 201cm jumping forward isn't easy. 7 goal loss, 3 goals to hampson. Not as bad as it sounds. He got caught by Gartless once. That's happened to alot of players too. How many times has Shoenmarkers been smashed like that in the last 18 months? 10 plus times. He's still getting games. Post has looked reasonably good in most of his richmond games apart from a couple only. The only way he'll improve is with more senior games. I'd much prefer him playing than Miller, Mcguane and Moore
Your response just proves you don't know why he was dropped.
Development? Please give me a break
It had nothing to do with how many goals Hampson kicked or getting burnt off by Garlett - nothing.
As I said get a copy of the game and watch it closely and you will see the main reason and here's a hint it isn't pretty
I'm rating him on yesterdays game and his other solids richmond games. If he stayed in defence for the last quarter we probably would have won the game. He had tarrant removed from the game. Smashed him while helping Rance a heap on Petrie. If you can't see that you really don't know what you're on about. You can't see crap on a replay anyway. Being at the game shows everything which is up/downfield. Rating playings on tv is the biggest mistake. First game of the year players are rusty and struggle with the pace of a first real hitout
Couldn't of been helping Rance to well in the last when he got his run on. Was moved forward to swap for McGuane cause he got a run on
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Persevere with Posty.
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Houli makes both of them look like Archer and Carey
:lol
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Gotta agree MM, thought his game was average at best. Better than his recent efforts but still nothing to make me think he will make it.
How blind are you. His game was very good. You're one of those who don't want to see him play well and take his game as poor even before the game has been played
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Part of development mate. Playing on a 201cm jumping forward isn't easy. 7 goal loss, 3 goals to hampson. Not as bad as it sounds. He got caught by Gartless once. That's happened to alot of players too. How many times has Shoenmarkers been smashed like that in the last 18 months? 10 plus times. He's still getting games. Post has looked reasonably good in most of his richmond games apart from a couple only. The only way he'll improve is with more senior games. I'd much prefer him playing than Miller, Mcguane and Moore
Your response just proves you don't know why he was dropped.
Development? Please give me a break
It had nothing to do with how many goals Hampson kicked or getting burnt off by Garlett - nothing.
As I said get a copy of the game and watch it closely and you will see the main reason and here's a hint it isn't pretty
I'm rating him on yesterdays game and his other solids richmond games. If he stayed in defence for the last quarter we probably would have won the game. He had tarrant removed from the game. Smashed him while helping Rance a heap on Petrie. If you can't see that you really don't know what you're on about. You can't see crap on a replay anyway. Being at the game shows everything which is up/downfield. Rating playings on tv is the biggest mistake. First game of the year players are rusty and struggle with the pace of a first real hitout
Couldn't of been helping Rance to well in the last when he got his run on. Was moved forward to swap for McGuane cause he got a run on
His opponent was subbed out of the game. That's when he went forward. You notice that? Or you refuse to acknowledge it?
Instead of being blind and wanting him to fail and get delisted. Open your eyes and see his attributes and see were he will improve. You don't realise how required he is. Our 3 tall defenders are rance, griff and grimes. Our 3 tall forwards are jack, vickery and ???? If one of our backs go down, Post is next in line. He's ahead of derrickx, astbury and elton as a defender for sure. While Moore, Miller, Mcguane are as good as finished so he's ahead of them too. He's also capable of playing forward. Late last year against the bombers he did just as well as Griffiths up forward but didn't kick the goals. I reckon our perfect set up would be Griffiths in defence when we play the top 8 sides and Post up forward. The top 8 sides have a big forward such as Petrie which Griff would take. Griff's pace would be handy up forward against bottom 8 sides and Post in defence. Grimes hammys aren't too reliable either so Post may be in defence more often than expected
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Post is like McGuane
Pretty much Ox. Perhaps not quite as good hence why Luke was preferred on Petrie in the last.
You think Post should be delisted? If so, who else goes with him? We can't delist all our average players in one go. I'd prefer Post gets another crack (as long as he performs for us for the rest of the season) over quite a few others.
He's actually a pretty easy delisting. About 5th in line if all are fit and available who can play similar roles to the one he played on Sunday.
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Have we resigned post?
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Gotta agree MM, thought his game was average at best. Better than his recent efforts but still nothing to make me think he will make it.
How blind are you. His game was very good. You're one of those who don't want to see him play well and take his game as poor even before the game has been played
Not as blind as some apparently. Yes, that's what I do, list my best players pre-game. His game was average and that comes directly from my post-game summation.
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Gotta agree MM, thought his game was average at best. Better than his recent efforts but still nothing to make me think he will make it.
How blind are you. His game was very good. You're one of those who don't want to see him play well and take his game as poor even before the game has been played
Not as blind as some apparently. Yes, that's what I do, list my best players pre-game. His game was average and that comes directly from my post-game summation.
Well average is under rating his game so yeah you've got a chip on your shoulder mate. Lift your game
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Well average is under rating his game
In your opinion.
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Gotta agree MM, thought his game was average at best. Better than his recent efforts but still nothing to make me think he will make it.
How blind are you. His game was very good. You're one of those who don't want to see him play well and take his game as poor even before the game has been played
Not as blind as some apparently. Yes, that's what I do, list my best players pre-game. His game was average and that comes directly from my post-game summation.
Well average is under rating his game so yeah you've got a chip on your shoulder mate. Lift your game
My game is good and my rating is my opinion, just like yours. If Rance or Grimes played the same game as Post did then we would be saying they were average. I'm not rating him on potential or growth or man-love, I'm rating him on what he did for the whole game and I thought he was average, nothing more. Just like I thought Newman and Houli were poor to average.
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Gotta agree MM, thought his game was average at best. Better than his recent efforts but still nothing to make me think he will make it.
How blind are you. His game was very good. You're one of those who don't want to see him play well and take his game as poor even before the game has been played
Not as blind as some apparently. Yes, that's what I do, list my best players pre-game. His game was average and that comes directly from my post-game summation.
Well average is under rating his game so yeah you've got a chip on your shoulder mate. Lift your game
If Rance or Grimes played the same game as Post did then we would be saying they were average.
I wouldn't. No goals kicked on you and a poo load of spoils doesn't = an average game for a defender in my book. No errors with ball in hand either. Thought Posty was solid
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From where I was sitting, and what I could see I thought he was solid.
He did miss that first mark, but he managed to take some good ones latter, used his body in the contest and made some good spoils.
Kid still has a long way to go, but can build on what he has
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i've started to have doubts about whether post would make it, but i thought his game on the weekend was a solid base to build on.
still a way to go, but the jury's still out for me
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Light at the end of the post
Will make a good goal post cam
Eight posts on a footy field are a plenty :sleep
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Part of development mate. Playing on a 201cm jumping forward isn't easy. 7 goal loss, 3 goals to hampson. Not as bad as it sounds. He got caught by Gartless once. That's happened to alot of players too. How many times has Shoenmarkers been smashed like that in the last 18 months? 10 plus times. He's still getting games. Post has looked reasonably good in most of his richmond games apart from a couple only. The only way he'll improve is with more senior games. I'd much prefer him playing than Miller, Mcguane and Moore
Your response just proves you don't know why he was dropped.
Development? Please give me a break
It had nothing to do with how many goals Hampson kicked or getting burnt off by Garlett - nothing.
As I said get a copy of the game and watch it closely and you will see the main reason and here's a hint it isn't pretty
I'm rating him on yesterdays game and his other solids richmond games. If he stayed in defence for the last quarter we probably would have won the game. He had tarrant removed from the game. Smashed him while helping Rance a heap on Petrie. If you can't see that you really don't know what you're on about. You can't see crap on a replay anyway. Being at the game shows everything which is up/downfield. Rating playings on tv is the biggest mistake. First game of the year players are rusty and struggle with the pace of a first real hitout
Couldn't of been helping Rance to well in the last when he got his run on. Was moved forward to swap for McGuane cause he got a run on
His opponent was subbed out of the game. That's when he went forward. You notice that? Or you refuse to acknowledge it?
Instead of being blind and wanting him to fail and get delisted. Open your eyes and see his attributes and see were he will improve. You don't realise how required he is. Our 3 tall defenders are rance, griff and grimes. Our 3 tall forwards are jack, vickery and ???? If one of our backs go down, Post is next in line. He's ahead of derrickx, astbury and elton as a defender for sure. While Moore, Miller, Mcguane are as good as finished so he's ahead of them too. He's also capable of playing forward. Late last year against the bombers he did just as well as Griffiths up forward but didn't kick the goals. I reckon our perfect set up would be Griffiths in defence when we play the top 8 sides and Post up forward. The top 8 sides have a big forward such as Petrie which Griff would take. Griff's pace would be handy up forward against bottom 8 sides and Post in defence. Grimes hammys aren't too reliable either so Post may be in defence more often than expected
Show me where I said delist him. I rekon he played okay and if he can do it for a few more games this year give him another chance next year as his last chance to really step up. But another game like round 1 and he can bugger off
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Seems the acceptance of mediocrity is alive and well at Richmond.
One can only hope list managers from other clubs are as excited by what they saw from Post yesterday and we can trade him off before we're lumped with another ordinary player for 9 seasons.
Gotta agree MM, thought his game was average at best. Better than his recent efforts but still nothing to make me think he will make it.
How blind are you. His game was very good. You're one of those who don't want to see him play well and take his game as poor even before the game has been played
Not as blind as some apparently. Yes, that's what I do, list my best players pre-game. His game was average and that comes directly from my post-game summation.
Well average is under rating his game so yeah you've got a chip on your shoulder mate. Lift your game
If Rance or Grimes played the same game as Post did then we would be saying they were average.
I wouldn't. No goals kicked on you and a poo load of spoils doesn't = an average game for a defender in my book. No errors with ball in hand either. Thought Posty was solid
How did you think Moore played CD?
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Average. Made a couple of mistakes and cost us a goal by getting caught once. Didn't have anywhere near as many spoils as Post did. Wasn't bad but IMO he was average. Post was definitely better
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i've started to have doubts about whether post would make it, but i thought his game on the weekend was a solid base to build on.
still a way to go, but the jury's still out for me
I think we should give him as much a go as Vickery had this year.
Club hasn't given him the opportunity to string games together which can't help his confidence
What do we have to lose?
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i've started to have doubts about whether post would make it, but i thought his game on the weekend was a solid base to build on.
still a way to go, but the jury's still out for me
I think we should give him as much a go as Vickery had this year.
Club hasn't given him the opportunity to string games together which can't help his confidence
What do we have to lose?
Nothing, and that's exactly why we should give these guys a go
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lol at the Post haters saying he had an 'ok' game. Pull your head out of your asses
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shut up MT.
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lol at the Post haters saying he had an 'ok' game. Pull your head out of your asses
Surprised he didn't figure in the coach votes. ;D Maybe three votes for Posty in the Brownlow? :lol
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Average. Made a couple of mistakes and cost us a goal by getting caught once. Didn't have anywhere near as many spoils as Post did. Wasn't bad but IMO he was average. Post was definitely better
Yeah, reason I asked was that they both had almost identical stats across the board from the game, the only thing Post did significantly better in was 1%ers which would be as you called it - the spoiling. I didn't notice his spoiling that much apart from 1 very good spoil and a couple of regulation ones but I'm not disagreeing it was a strong point. I'm only basing my opinion on his actual output and still can't change my mind that his game was average, not good or bad, just like I believe Moore's was. Was it better than most of his previous efforts? Yes it was, and do I hope he continues on that vein? Absolutely, but at the end of the day he put out what he put out, an improved average game. All IMHO of course.
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No worries Smokey :thumbsup
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LOL at the post lovers saying had he had great game. Get your hand off it.
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lol at lol get your lol off your lol
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LOL at the post lovers saying had he had great game. Get your hand off it.
Very good is more like it.
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LOL at the post lovers saying had he had great game. Get your hand off it.
Very good is more like it.
Terrific, just terrific
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:lol
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LOL at the post lovers saying had he had great game. Get your hand off it.
Very good is more like it.
Passable at best.
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Yep passable/serviceable or whatever you want to brand it for mine on sunday. If he did that each week and added to it by years end I'd give him another year as I still think he offers good flexibility bit like Leigh Brown. Just needs to step it up. With Post i get the impression its lack of confidence not lack of desire
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L brown was rubbish at post age. Uber rubbish.
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wilbur looked a bit lost as the
ball came down in the first
quarter.
geez i would love to see some mongrel in this kid
limp as wet lettuce leaf.
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L brown was rubbish at post age. Uber rubbish.
exactly, was rubbish till he went to collingwood, took them a year to get the spudness out, last couple of years he was very very handy. Players that can swing both ends plus pinch hit in the ruck half decently are few and far between, id be doing everything i can to get Posty up to speed
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L brown was rubbish at post age. Uber rubbish.
He might be that Leigh Brown or McPhee type that doesn't get consistency until their late 20's, and makes plenty of errors along the way.
I liked Post's game last week, watching it made me angry that Miller has been getting games in front of him. I think Post should have 25 more games under his belt than he currently has, and we would be in a better position to know if he can make it. I'm still backing him.
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Post has more value than McGuane, Jackson, Miller ... Keep him Richmond, he is still a cub!
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L brown was rubbish at post age. Uber rubbish.
He might be that Leigh Brown or McPhee type that doesn't get consistency until their late 20's, and makes plenty of errors along the way.
I liked Post's game last week, watching it made me angry that Miller has been getting games in front of him. I think Post should have 25 more games under his belt than he currently has, and we would be in a better position to know if he can make it. I'm still backing him.
He should have played at least a dozen more games. He would have been more advanced and entreched in the 22 by now. He played a couple of decent games last year where he should have been kept and allowed to build on. But he was dropped. Did we expect him to star in his 13th or 14th game spread over his first 2 seasons?
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He's not a cub. Same age Schulzy was in his last season (and he was here 7 years). Still young enough to improve though. I'd give him another year if he can play decent footy for the rest of the season.
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He's not a cub. Same age Schulzy was in his last season (and he was here 7 years). Still young enough to improve though. I'd give him another year if he can play decent footy for the rest of the season.
is still only in yr 4. was drafted 2008. only had 22 games to date. hes 22 for another 5 6 months. has showed good signs in a lot of the games hes played, hes also made a lot of mistakes.
personally id say if hes not a cub hes an adolecant (spelling). when you look at others on the list he is well worth giving another season. just seems the way hes been treated this yr hes on the oluter and likely gone.
schulzy had 7 yrs and 71 games when we cut him or traded him for nothing. at the time after 7 yrs and a total lack of consistency it had to happen.we had definately seen enough of schulz to make an informed opinion. dont think we have given post a decent run at it yet.
i was one who fought he had to go and thought that for two or three yrs before he did go. its funny because if i could take an ex richmond player back it would be schulz. dfinately a case of a change being of benefit.
i have two issues with post. one is a lack of aggresion and belief, dont think hes physically developed yet that accounts for the aggression and timidity bit. and two is a slight lack of pace. think his biggest problem is he doesnt believe he belongs at the level. plenty of games and some consistent good performances should fix that but to date it hasnt happened.
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Schulz is 5 years older. He was at the club for at least 3 more years
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Schulz was 24 when we traded him to Port, Post will be 23 at the end of this season.
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This is why miller being on the list is criminal.
L brown was rubbish at post age. Uber rubbish.
He might be that Leigh Brown or McPhee type that doesn't get consistency until their late 20's, and makes plenty of errors along the way.
I liked Post's game last week, watching it made me angry that Miller has been getting games in front of him. I think Post should have 25 more games under his belt than he currently has, and we would be in a better position to know if he can make it. I'm still backing him.
He should have played at least a dozen more games. He would have been more advanced and entreched in the 22 by now. He played a couple of decent games last year where he should have been kept and allowed to build on. But he was dropped. Did we expect him to star in his 13th or 14th game spread over his first 2 seasons?
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Every Richmond supporter who isn't stupid would agree post is ahead of derrickx, mcguane, Moore and miller as a key position for the next 6 weeks and beyond. So why on earth would anyone want him delisted? He's currently ahead of astbury and Elton which further strengthens this point
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Post...... So why on earth would anyone want him delisted? He's currently ahead of astbury and Elton which further strengthens this point
Well one would hope he would be seeing it's his 4th year in the system compared to Astbury's 3rd (but having missed over 12 months you could argue it's only his 2nd) and it's Elton 1st
So actually instead of "strengthening" your point it deflates it and makes your case for Post look foolish if the best you can do is have him ahead of 2 blokes who've been in the system less than him
:thumbsup
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Schulz is 5 years older. He was at the club for at least 3 more years
Schulz only just turned 27 I think. Posty is nearly 23 and has never played a good game at AFL level.
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Schulz is 5 years older. He was at the club for at least 3 more years
Schulz only just turned 27 I think. Posty is nearly 23 and has never played a good game at AFL level.
Aside from his 3 Brownlow votes last week. :lol
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;D
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
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I liked his desperate smother late when Betts tried to soccer it through.
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
His a stupid boy who plays cross country footy. A braindead dud
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
mixed grill for jayden tonight. agree with what you said, but at times... just leaves you scratching your head. that missed mark that sconed him was diabolical. two handed punches... :banghead just mark the effing thing
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Was less average than last week but I suppose that's my "Post-hating" glasses doing that. I can't workout why I shouldn't be seeing the match-winning attributes of his 5 possessions.
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:lol :rollin
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Work inprogress, i would keep him in front of others and FFS why dont they give derrickx a go?
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Work inprogress, i would keep him in front of others and FFS why dont they give derrickx a go?
cuz he had a go and was ass. but i suppose they're all ass anyway
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
mixed grill for jayden tonight. agree with what you said, but at times... just leaves you scratching your head. that missed mark that sconed him was diabolical. two handed punches... :banghead just mark the effing thing
Too scared to mark your 6 foot whatever. Mark it.
Summed him up well Al. :thumbsup
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Vegemite cheeks aint the answer.
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No
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
mixed grill for jayden tonight. agree with what you said, but at times... just leaves you scratching your head. that missed mark that sconed him was diabolical. two handed punches... :banghead just mark the effing thing
The coach is the problem!
Rance, Morris were double fisting the ball in the air too which obviously means the message was to do that!
Sack Leppitch and Hardwick
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rance misjudged 4 or 5 in the air again tonight but he never gets pulled up for it we do have our favorites.
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rance misjudged 4 or 5 in the air again tonight but he never gets pulled up for it we do have our favorites.
He made some mistakes but overrall he brings plenty to the table each week, or are you saying he offers as little as Post? With your history it wouldnt surprise.
Unlike yourself, some people have a balanced view and weigh up pros and cons of skillset as well as performances of a player. He has many flaws but also has many strengths, he is trending upwards very quickly and is already one of the better FB's in the comp. Some people also tend to forget hes 21
Yeah its all about having our favourites... FFS
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
mixed grill for jayden tonight. agree with what you said, but at times... just leaves you scratching your head. that missed mark that sconed him was diabolical. two handed punches... :banghead just mark the effing thing
The coach is the problem!
Rance, Morris were double fisting the ball in the air too which obviously means the message was to do that!
Sack Leppitch and Hardwick
this is the best comment ever
Why they punch when they can mark is unbelievable
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Quiet first half but was very good in second half. Took 3 important marks and made some nice spoils. Stopped Betts from kicking a late goal. Post needs to be fast tracked to 50 games. That is where a player really improves. He has the talent to be in the 22 but has been stuffed around for the last 2 years after being dropped a few times after a reasonable game like this. How's he meant to get better being treated like this. Keep him in and get him to 50 games quickly next year.
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
mixed grill for jayden tonight. agree with what you said, but at times... just leaves you scratching your head. that missed mark that sconed him was diabolical. two handed punches... :banghead just mark the effing thing
The coach is the problem!
Rance, Morris were double fisting the ball in the air too which obviously means the message was to do that!
Sack Leppitch and Hardwick
this is the best comment ever
Why they punch when they can mark is unbelievable
I wonder if it is the coaches fault that the dozen or so team mates around postie didn't talk?
It's about time the finger was pointed at the playing group as well.
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Was less average than last week but I suppose that's my "Post-hating" glasses doing that. I can't workout why I shouldn't be seeing the match-winning attributes of his 5 possessions.
Last week was a better game. This week was decent. You are seeing things backwards ;D
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Was less average than last week but I suppose that's my "Post-hating" glasses doing that. I can't workout why I shouldn't be seeing the match-winning attributes of his 5 possessions.
Last week was a better game. This week was decent. You are seeing things backwards ;D
After drowning my sorrows post-game I was seeing things in all manner of ways! ;D
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Was less average than last week but I suppose that's my "Post-hating" glasses doing that. I can't workout why I shouldn't be seeing the match-winning attributes of his 5 possessions.
Last week was a better game. This week was decent. You are seeing things backwards ;D
After drowning my sorrows post-game I was seeing things in all manner of ways! ;D
Posty is going upwards. Moore and Mcguane are going downwards. They all had similar amount of the ball but he's only 22 and the other two are 26-28. If he went for marks instead of punching he would have had 10 possessions 8)
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Posty is going upwards. Moore and Mcguane are going downwards. They all had similar amount of the ball but he's only 22 and the other two are 26-28. If he went for marks instead of punching he would have had 10 possessions 8)
I agree with this, I can't for the life of me work out was in the head of the defenders last night - it was almost like they were brainwashed into going for the spoil instead of marking. They were all guilty of it and it cost us time and time again. Then again, our marking was atrocious so maybe is was a confidence thing.
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How can you dismiss Moore.hes coming back after a long term carreer ending injury..we owe it to him and us to give him some more time
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Posty is going upwards. Moore and Mcguane are going downwards. They all had similar amount of the ball but he's only 22 and the other two are 26-28. If he went for marks instead of punching he would have had 10 possessions 8)
I agree with this, I can't for the life of me work out was in the head of the defenders last night - it was almost like they were brainwashed into going for the spoil instead of marking. They were all guilty of it and it cost us time and time again. Then again, our marking was atrocious so maybe is was a confidence thing.
Grimes and Batchelor have done the same last year. But they have started taking marks this year. Post will get better in every area. Gotta get him to 50 games nece and quick now
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i hope the boy makes it,but i very much doubt he will.he has no football smarts at all.
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Posty is going upwards. Moore and Mcguane are going downwards. They all had similar amount of the ball but he's only 22 and the other two are 26-28. If he went for marks instead of punching he would have had 10 possessions 8)
I agree with this, I can't for the life of me work out was in the head of the defenders last night - it was almost like they were brainwashed into going for the spoil instead of marking. They were all guilty of it and it cost us time and time again. Then again, our marking was atrocious so maybe is was a confidence thing.
Grimes and Batchelor have done the same last year. But they have started taking marks this year. Post will get better in every area. Gotta get him to 50 games nece and quick now
I can understand , and forgive young defenders, for punching at times when they should mark. I t is basically a judgment thing and erring on the side is of caution is better than trying to mark when you should punch.
...But i am driven to distraction watching a bloke get two fists to the ball. if you can get two hands to the ball, you attempt to mark the effing thing.
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If you notice last night game .Quite a few of the punches were when the Richmond player was under no pressure or limited pressure.really thats poor
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If you notice last night game .Quite a few of the punches were when the Richmond player was under no pressure or limited pressure.really thats poor
Yep, stood out last night.
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If you notice last night game .Quite a few of the punches were when the Richmond player was under no pressure or limited pressure.really thats poor
Yep, stood out last night.
Got to play Post for the rest of the season & build his confidence up. Access at seasons end
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Got to play Post for the rest of the season & build his confidence up. Access at seasons end
Assess at season's end maybe??
:lol
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you can take the teacher out of the school...........
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I thought post played ok tinight, had a dip, ran tackled and went for some good contests
mixed grill for jayden tonight. agree with what you said, but at times... just leaves you scratching your head. that missed mark that sconed him was diabolical. two handed punches... :banghead just mark the effing thing
Too scared to mark your 6 foot whatever. Mark it.
Summed him up well Al. :thumbsup
Yep nailed it al
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The coach is the problem!
Rance, Morris were double fisting the ball in the air too which obviously means the message was to do that!
Sack Leppitch and Hardwick
Great pickup.
WTF Is going on there when the defenders are drilled into reacting by double fisting - pardon the puns.
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Got to play Post for the rest of the season & build his confidence up. Access at seasons end
Assess at season's end maybe??
:lol
l'm sorry l pressed the wrong keys stuffing idiot
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You have some grammar issues in that latest post as well.
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Got to play Post for the rest of the season & build his confidence up. Access at seasons end
Assess at season's end maybe??
:lol
l'm sorry l pressed the wrong keys stuffing idiot
:lol
No you didn't, you just can't spell.
"Not that there is anything wrong with that"
A quote from who?
...or is that from whom?
:lol
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Access all areas, a lot more before post
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Keep playing him. See how he goes. Has been serviceable so far, in my opinion.
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Post was horrible last night.
He does not play like a man whose career is on the line. If he is the biggest defender which he was last night he needs to play like it. Mark it. Smash packs. Run through small forwards. Take over. Create doubt with your physical presence. Get some mongrel into ya Post!
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Post was horrible last night.
He does not play like a man whose career is on the line. If he is the biggest defender which he was last night he needs to play like it. Mark it. Smash packs. Run through small forwards. Take over. Create doubt with your physical presence. Get some mongrel into ya Post!
:clapping :clapping :clapping
terrific, just terrific
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shows no agression or want
for the contest in my book.
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Last 2 games he has shown a bit.He needs game time to get experience and build confidence.Posty hasnt played since Rd 1 .Others got a game instead of him that shown bugger all.Before you look at Posty look at Dea,Moore ,and McGuane all dont deserve to be in the side and made costly errors last 3 games.
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Got to play Post for the rest of the season
Are we tanking?
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Inb4 terrific, just terrific
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:lol
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inb4 Hardwick should be sacked for subbing out this jet after that one amazing mark in the goal square.
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Footscray lack a decent target up forward. With something like 2 top top 10 picks, what are the chances they will give us a half decent pick for him?
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posty has no confidence,he makes wrong decisions nearly all the time. cant play both griff and posty in the same team.neither get anywhere near the pill.
I really do believe teams target Posty and play through him,hes that bad
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probably gve him frees on purpose just so he can create a turnover in the back half
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Inb4 terrific, just terrific
Thanks for saving me the trouble
Terrific, just terrific ;D
Footscray lack a decent target up forward. With something like 2 top top 10 picks, what are the chances they will give us a half decent pick for him?
Perfect fit for the doggies lives out that way too :rollin
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posty has no confidence,he makes wrong decisions nearly all the time. cant play both griff and posty in the same team.neither get anywhere near the pill.
I really do believe teams target Posty and play through him,hes that bad
Post isnt AFL standard at least the other boy looks like he could be something very decent at AFL level. Just my opinion.
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Francis got this one wrong.
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Footscray lack a decent target up forward. With something like 2 top top 10 picks, what are the chances they will give us a half decent pick for him?
Pick 19 or GTFO
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Footscray lack a decent target up forward. With something like 2 top top 10 picks, what are the chances they will give us a half decent pick for him?
Pick 19 or GTFO
;D
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Didn't have a good game. Maybe his last for the tigers
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Hardwick said Post came off because we were too tall down back! So why did he not drag Griffiths as he was having a shocker as well??? Post had more possessions??
Good bye pine Post - you cannot be soft in Big league boy
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8 posts is enough
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Can the 'Post' button be renamed 'Jet' in honour of Last Post?
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Hardwick said Post came off because we were too tall down back! So why did he not drag Griffiths as he was having a shocker as well??? Post had more possessions??
Good bye pine Post - you cannot be soft in Big league boy
It was a good sub.
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Francis got this one wrong.
Could've had Beams. :banghead
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maybe he was on the beams? :cheers
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Post was good yesty.
I wouldn't mind him in a forward role.
Takes a great contested mark.For me our best KP yesterday.
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He was very good yesterday and against North. He's played a number of decent games over his 4 years. Up forward or in defence he has looked decent. I laugh at alot of our supporters. So many unrealistic, greedy and dumb supporters out there complaining he didn't dominate in his 8th, 15th or 23rd game of afl footy. Players gradually improve on the way to 50 games. That's what happens. You don't need a brain to see he has foot skills and it's lack of confidence that may cause a turnover. He has been unlucky not to have played another dozen games. He really should have been played alot earlier in the season and shouldn't have been dropped a couple of times last season. He'll improve dramatically with another 20 games. Anyone wanting him to be dropped doesn't care that much about our future. We need to get him to 50 games quickly. Grimes has had dodgy hamstrings and Griffiths has missed a few games. Post is required down back. He may even surpass Griffiths is he continues to get games. We also need a 3rd tall forward. Griffiths may go forward or even Post. Post is a vital link in the chain. How about we support the bloke and remember he is still 22 and has played under 30 games? 8)
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He was very good yesterday and against North. He's played a number of decent games over his 4 years. Up forward or in defence he has looked decent. I laugh at alot of our supporters. So many unrealistic, greedy and dumb supporters out there complaining he didn't dominate in his 8th, 15th or 23rd game of afl footy. Players gradually improve on the way to 50 games. That's what happens. You don't need a brain to see he has foot skills and it's lack of confidence that may cause a turnover. He has been unlucky not to have played another dozen games. He really should have been played alot earlier in the season and shouldn't have been dropped a couple of times last season. He'll improve dramatically with another 20 games. Anyone wanting him to be dropped doesn't care that much about our future. We need to get him to 50 games quickly. Grimes has had dodgy hamstrings and Griffiths has missed a few games. Post is required down back. He may even surpass Griffiths is he continues to get games. We also need a 3rd tall forward. Griffiths may go forward or even Post. Post is a vital link in the chain. How about we support the bloke and remember he is still 22 and has played under 30 games? 8)
:clapping
I too, rate him highly. I can understand why some don't rate though too. He reminds me of Rance in terms of development.
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He was very good yesterday and against North.
You're delusional. I laugh at you.
He's slow by foot and of mind.
Terrific, just terrific.
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A soon to be 23 year old getting defended as if it's his first season. Terrific, just terrific.
I think MadTugger might be Posty's mum. I have a tip for you, wait until he's played an entire season of senior football before you get on here ranting and raving about how good he is. I suppose you think Hardwick is clueless for having him in the magoos most of the time?
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A soon to be 23 year old getting defended as if it's his first season. Terrific, just terrific.
I think MadTugger might be Posty's mum. I have a tip for you, wait until he's played an entire season of senior football before you get on here ranting and raving about how good he is. I suppose you think Hardwick is clueless for having him in the magoos most of the time?
I'm ranting that he should be fast tracked to 50 games compared to people wanting him delisted. I have never said he has cemented himself
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Here's a question.
Has Post shown more than Astbury? Is he better than a fit Astbury and if not, will he be?
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Reckon Post can play
Might be better off at another club ?
Should be played forward not back
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He was very good yesterday and against North.
You're delusional. I laugh at you.
He's slow by foot and of mind.
Terrific, just terrific.
Yeah that has caused a grand total of 3 turnovers in the last 5 games. Kicking off 1 step has been the cause of those 3 turnovers if you took notice
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There are a lot of players mums on this forum
Mrs ohanlon attacked me
Seriously you an see a champion defender pretty well straight away
Dylan grimes reads the flight of the ballon the early and moves into position early because he can close in early
Not super tall but plays taller because of the above
He makes Rance look a lot better the two of them were super together
Rance looks shocking next to post because he's trying to cover him as well as his own opponent
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Here's a question.
Has Post shown more than Astbury? Is he better than a fit Astbury and if not, will he be?
He's definately on par with Astbury talent wise. But he's ahead of him in development and gets picked in the 22 before him. I rate Post and Griffiths similar. Both need to improve in areas and both will with more games. Post and Astbury have similar pace, both can kick well with both feet. Astbury has looked more confident with the ball but Post is stronger in 1 on 1's and has a massive leap and mark. He looked pretty comfortable in our 22 yesterday. When Grimes comes back, I would like to see Griffiths go forward most of the time. Vickery will take the other tall forward spot. Post is a pretty vital player imo. We should aim to have 3 tall backs and 3 tall forwards on game day. Reiwoldt has found it tough with a 2 tall man forward line. Mcguane isn't the answer and Elton isn't ready. Post and Astbury are very important players considering Grimes and Griffiths injuries.
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All true except for postman Jayden
Needs a career change
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Rance looks shocking next to post because he's trying to cover him as well as his own opponent
Excellent point. Anyone who watches the game live would notice how often Post is off his opponent. Loper.
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Gee do we need to single out the stupid players....we had plenty.
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What do we do ? Cure the cause or treat the symptom?
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He was very good yesterday and against North.
You're delusional. I laugh at you.
He's slow by foot and of mind.
Terrific, just terrific.
Disposal efficiency is great but what about the other things, the 1%ers, the putting on the block for a rebounding defender? Or just for something different what about using your size to exert a bit hardness at a contest?
Yes skill wise (read disposal wise) he was reasonable but it continues to be his decsion making and lack of attack on the contest that is the thing for me at least that has me pulling my hair our
Will say it again, he is 6ft 4" weighs in at around 90 odd kgs but he stands back watching and waiting tooo often, when he needs to be a mongrel and throw that size around and intimidate. Can have the nest skills in the world but when your are not using one of your clear strenghts to your advantage well... then the questions and frustrations will continue to be raised
But apart from that ....
Terrific, just terrific
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Post is a clear example of poor player development.
The club is absolutely responsible for ruining many football careers over many years.
It's time to cut out the crap and start again.
That includes getting rid of the players who have underperformed over the course of time regardless of who's fault it may be.
Post fits perfectly into this example of a player who looked the goods as a youngster but has been ruined by poor management and a club that has failed in its duty to adequately help him develop to a reasonable level to play good consistant AFL football.
Now that we have a development arm the club must consistantly work to improve that department to assist the new recruits to further their careers at the top level.
Unfortunately it's clear that it's too late for Post, graham, mcguane etc. get rid of them now because they'll never be any good.
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Rance looks shocking next to post because he's trying to cover him as well as his own opponent
Excellent point. Anyone who watches the game live would notice how often Post is off his opponent. Loper.
Yeah cos he has to man up rances player, cos rance ran off him. Post has covered for Rance a bit too lately. Rance has struggled against the big forwards eg. Pav, Petrie, Walker. Has nothing to do with Post
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Poorly coached ...anyone.....
He has obviously been given a job to do...he either cant do it or he is useless....work it out.
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You need a drink of holy water
You have missed the point on why Rance is under the pump
Sorry mrs post goal post cameras are being named after your son
What does this tell the rest of the footy world
That Jayden lacks focus and clarity, full of indecision and could be scrapped in the future :pray
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Nobody seems to notice either that Rance is the only True backman we have out here at the moment. Give e guy a break, he is busting his arse with absolutely no support around him! Get back Grimes and add another pure backman and the heat is taken off he one man back line we haven't the moment. We all seem to forget how well Rance was going earlier his year with Grimes in the side....
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As the season has progressed many of us have started to see the limitations of players like Houli,who can only play one side of his body and seems to lack a ticker.Now at the moment there is nobdody that can step up and fill that role ,so he gets a game.Newman is another one that worries me .we seem to be getting only occasional shows of his old self.
Grimes coming back will be a huge boost to our backline,but with his on going hamstrings problem his long term viability must come into question.
In yetserdays game the penny actually dropped for me on Edwards.we cant possibly play him in any midfield role he just butchers the ball way to often.His role should be purely as a goal sneak inside the 50 metre arc(if indeed a player can be limited to that)
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Early on he was like he rock of gibraltor....lord knows why he wasnt tried forward....fair dinkum ive seenmore creativity in a kindergarten class than our coaching box :shh
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Dermie summed him up, has flaws but there is 'something' to work with!
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Jayden - just hit someone please - hard. If you cannot punch the ball at least punch the back of the forward's head!
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post will be ok, i see a future in him, just needs to be coached better
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For a big player his is soft - needs to muscle up and start impacting packs and denting opposition. Cannot remember the last time he went in hard or got hurt putting his body on the line
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all true but where next?we cant get rid of the whole team
we need to start looking at the guys that have been there for more than 6yrs first plus band aid recruits
and ask the question will these guys be able to help win us a flag????
newman
jackson
edwards
nahas
mcguane
houli
griggs
also delist graham derrickx browneye a-maric and whatever you want add on the end
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8 posts on the field are enough.
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Rance looks shocking next to post because he's trying to cover him as well as his own opponent
Excellent point. Anyone who watches the game live would notice how often Post is off his opponent. Loper.
was there this week and rance was diabolical compared to post. i dont think ive ever seen a bloke misjudge the ball so poorly and so much in the air as rance does. for a key defender that is unforgivable.
if anyone plays of his man too much its rance poor in the air falls over one on one too often and too often misses targets with his kicking and is often caught out of position.
post has his issues too. decision making confidence and pace are real issues. attack on the ball or intensity are also issues.
agree with madone in one regard we should have been playing post a bit more instead of giving blokes like mcguane and thursield games.
the real difference between rance vickery griffiths and post is the others were constantly given games early on regardless of form. post was not given that luxury and in a lot of ways has been the scape goat for losses. one game in one loss one poor performance out he goes. always been a believer of if you are gonna play em give em good game time and give a decent block of games. i also believe post has been pulled from pillar to post positionally. to me this kid was a chb yet we have thrown him forward then back then forward and back again. theres been no consistency in any area for him.
dunno if hes gunna make it or not he has some good attributes but he also has some glareing deficiencies. one thing i do know we would be better off keeping him than retaining the likes of mcguane who we know for certain to be below standard and has had nearly 90 100 games
dont see how people can criticise one and not the other. for what its worth thought post was decent this week despite the customary mistakes.
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Rance looks shocking next to post because he's trying to cover him as well as his own opponent
Excellent point. Anyone who watches the game live would notice how often Post is off his opponent. Loper.
was there this week and rance was diabolical compared to post. i dont think ive ever seen a bloke misjudge the ball so poorly and so much in the air as rance does. for a key defender that is unforgivable.
if anyone plays of his man too much its rance poor in the air falls over one on one too often and too often misses targets with his kicking and is often caught out of position.
post has his issues too. decision making confidence and pace are real issues. attack on the ball or intensity are also issues.
agree with madone in one regard we should have been playing post a bit more instead of giving blokes like mcguane and thursield games.
the real difference between rance vickery griffiths and post is the others were constantly given games early on regardless of form. post was not given that luxury and in a lot of ways has been the scape goat for losses. one game in one loss one poor performance out he goes. always been a believer of if you are gonna play em give em good game time and give a decent block of games. i also believe post has been pulled from pillar to post positionally. to me this kid was a chb yet we have thrown him forward then back then forward and back again. theres been no consistency in any area for him.
dunno if hes gunna make it or not he has some good attributes but he also has some glareing deficiencies. one thing i do know we would be better off keeping him than retaining the likes of mcguane who we know for certain to be below standard and has had nearly 90 100 games
dont see how people can criticise one and not the other. for what its worth thought post was decent this week despite the customary mistakes.
Post is reasonable with hands under pressure. Can get the handball out in a pack. If he stops kicking off one step he'll cut out the miskicks. More gametime should give him more confidence with the ball when he isn't under pressure. He's in the perfect position to develop from now on. I'd be shocked if the club didn't have every intention to develop him further in 2013. He's 22, 195cm and about 95kg. Between 30 and 50 games is exactly when he should take that step. That is 2013. Delisting/Trade should be the furthest thing from the clubs thoughts.
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Rance looks shocking next to post because he's trying to cover him as well as his own opponent
Excellent point. Anyone who watches the game live would notice how often Post is off his opponent. Loper.
was there this week and rance was diabolical compared to post. i dont think ive ever seen a bloke misjudge the ball so poorly and so much in the air as rance does. for a key defender that is unforgivable.
if anyone plays of his man too much its rance poor in the air falls over one on one too often and too often misses targets with his kicking and is often caught out of position.
post has his issues too. decision making confidence and pace are real issues. attack on the ball or intensity are also issues.
agree with madone in one regard we should have been playing post a bit more instead of giving blokes like mcguane and thursield games.
the real difference between rance vickery griffiths and post is the others were constantly given games early on regardless of form. post was not given that luxury and in a lot of ways has been the scape goat for losses. one game in one loss one poor performance out he goes. always been a believer of if you are gonna play em give em good game time and give a decent block of games. i also believe post has been pulled from pillar to post positionally. to me this kid was a chb yet we have thrown him forward then back then forward and back again. theres been no consistency in any area for him.
dunno if hes gunna make it or not he has some good attributes but he also has some glareing deficiencies. one thing i do know we would be better off keeping him than retaining the likes of mcguane who we know for certain to be below standard and has had nearly 90 100 games
dont see how people can criticise one and not the other. for what its worth thought post was decent this week despite the customary mistakes.
Post is reasonable with hands under pressure. Can get the handball out in a pack. If he stops kicking off one step he'll cut out the miskicks. More gametime should give him more confidence with the ball when he isn't under pressure. He's in the perfect position to develop from now on. I'd be shocked if the club didn't have every intention to develop him further in 2013. He's 22, 195cm and about 95kg. Between 30 and 50 games is exactly when he should take that step. That is 2013. Delisting/Trade should be the furthest thing from the clubs thoughts.
he needs to improve a fair bit but he should be given another yr. the ball is in his court. for post the mantra is now improve or perish.
i see a lot of similarities with post and what has transpired to schoenmakers.
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For a big player his is soft - needs to muscle up and start impacting packs and denting opposition. Cannot remember the last time he went in hard or got hurt putting his body on the line
Bingo
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so he has to be coached better
maybe he doesnt take instructions well.
personally one more year and for godsakes
over summer grow some balls and play the game
like you mean it and go in HARD.
soft man
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I'm going to be very interested in how all of our talls fit into the side. The off-season is going to be very interesting (to say the least) particularly if we get any additional tall defenders or forwards to add to the mix :shh
Assuming we don't secure any free agents over the summer (highly unlikely imo) we would still have an abundance of tall defenders all sitting around the same ability level. Rance and Grimes would at this stage be awarded the first two positions but then there is Griffiths, Post, Astbury, McGuane and even a couple of rookies. Like many here, I like the idea of Griffiths goinf forward as our CHF with Vickery and Riewoldt roaming the F50. This would leave Post and Astbury taking the 3rd tall defensive position.
Now if we get Chaplin he will take the third tall position meaning Post will be pushed out of the side and made a depth player. With Grimes seemingly injury prone, I would guess he would get a fair amount of games time regardless.
We'll all just have to wait and se what the off season brings now....
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For a big player his is soft - needs to muscle up and start impacting packs and denting opposition. Cannot remember the last time he went in hard or got hurt putting his body on the line
Bingo
Don't talk about Riewoldt like that.
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i saw post take some gutsy marks
he is not soft , he is just lacking confidence
malthouse can fix that, lyon can fix that, roos can fix that
hardwick cant bec hardwick has fallen into the trap of looking after his favourites and forgetting the rest
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saw post take some gutsy marks
he is not soft , he is just lacking confidence
malthouse can fix that, lyon can fix that, roos can fix that
hardwick cant bec hardwick has fallen into the trap of looking after his favourites and forgetting the rest
x52,768 agree :thumbsup
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hardwick cant bec hardwick has fallen into the trap of looking after his favourites and forgetting the rest
Wrong. Hardwick simply doesn't rate him. Neither do a lot of others clearly.
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hardwick cant bec hardwick has fallen into the trap of looking after his favourites and forgetting the rest
Wrong. Hardwick simply doesn't rate him. Neither do a lot of others clearly.
hardwick is a tool then
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Anyone who thinks Post is of any value to our side, watch the 1st quarter against Fremantle. The amount of times in that quarter alone he sold other players into trouble because he shi t his pants as he was under pressure, then when that player (Rance on most occasions) tried to run to draw the pressure from Post, Post was stationery/observing so when he then received the ball back, he mis-passed and turned it over or on the other occasion couldn't hit the target and it went out because he thought he didn't need to get involved passed the point of dishing off in the first instance.
He is useless, and what is the good in him being able to take a solid mark, when he gets up to kick the ball he just turns it over or kicks to the worst option available to him?? :banghead Regardless of all this arguing on whether or not he will make it and whether or not he needs more time, I'm pretty certain the club has him gone at the end of year anyway based on everything he has shown us at AFL level to date.
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He is useless.
/endthread
#lastPost
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Anyone who thinks Post is of any value to our side, watch the 1st quarter against Fremantle. The amount of times in that quarter alone he sold other players into trouble because he shi t his pants as he was under pressure, then when that player (Rance on most occasions) tried to run to draw the pressure from Post, Post was stationery/observing so when he then received the ball back, he mis-passed and turned it over or on the other occasion couldn't hit the target and it went out because he thought he didn't need to get involved passed the point of dishing off in the first instance.
He is useless, and what is the good in him being able to take a solid mark, when he gets up to kick the ball he just turns it over or kicks to the worst option available to him?? :banghead Regardless of all this arguing on whether or not he will make it and whether or not he needs more time, I'm pretty certain the club has him gone at the end of year anyway based on everything he has shown us at AFL level to date.
What a stupid thing to say lol. There was 1 handball which didn't hit the target otherwise it was a very good game. Where the hell you imagine these other turnovers? You on drugs or something? 1 simple handball obviously showing lack of confidence of a young bloke who has played 30 games but spread evenly over 4 seasons. Surely you don't think he lacks the skill to handball 5m under no pressure? Composure comes into pressured situations only. This guy is just trying to fit in at afl level and is a bit nervous when he has the ball under no pressure and he prefers to give it off at this point. Kicking off 1 step is also a sign of these nerves. More games will fix this. As for everything else Post has the size, skill, mark, spoil and jumping ability to be a top defender. The club should be pumping games into him to get to 50 games nice and quickly. How does all this pass over so many heads? Unbelievable
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Thought Posty was pretty decent on the weekend. Definitely keeps his spot down back.
With Griff out, I'd play Maguantanamo down back and bring in Toddy Elton (regardless of form) to play forward. Just get some games into the kid now.
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please no Mcguane down back......Pleaaaaase.
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I know, Al. I know. But who else we got?
Actually maybe Batch comes back in.
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yeah, Batch to come back.
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Bring on Piva and Darou for their debut down back...anything but chicken legs to the backline
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please
keep it above board
piva wright and ben darou :lol :gotigers
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Should drop Mcguane and delist him at the end of the season. We are much better off developing Post as a 3rd tall back and Griffiths as a 3rd tall forward. Plenty of upside in these 2 players. With Vickery and Grimes back, there will be less pressure on Reiwoldt and Rance as the main players at each end of the ground and Post and Griffiths will be able to play 3rd tall instead of 2nd tall at either end. Astbury, Chaplain, Elton and Derrickx will be reasonable depth.
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Should drop Mcguane and delist him at the end of the season. We are much better off developing Post as a 3rd tall back and Griffiths as a 3rd tall forward. Plenty of upside in these 2 players. With Vickery and Grimes back, there will be less pressure on Reiwoldt and Rance as the main players at each end of the ground and Post and Griffiths will be able to play 3rd tall instead of 2nd tall at either end. Astbury, Chaplain, Elton and Derrickx will be reasonable depth.
This hard to argue against.
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Derrickx will be reasonable depth.
Derrickx? Now that's 2 duds you rate. :P
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lol at those who think chaplin will perform the same role he currently does at port. he will play kpd and most likely play on the bigger forwards. rance will likely play chb and dylan grimes will play third man up and provide a bit of rebound. another pre season into dea batchelor and morris and the backline starts to look decent.
would play conca at hb for another yr as well especially if dea does not continue to improve and stagnates.
a youngster like tanner smith would cater to the long term and tom lee along with a player like hartigan would give us genuine cover if injury hit any or all of rance chaplin and grimes. many moan about the lack of depth in key areas but dont wish to do a thing to fix the problem.
a scenario of chaplin lee and hartigan would be low cost and allow us to target mids with early to mid table nd picks.
will say again chaplin, rance, grimes, hartigan, lee, post and smith all genuine tall defenders is the way to go or something similar. that is depth.
riewoldt astbury griffiths elton vickery with lee as the swingman is the way we should be heading as far as tall forwards go. again that is depth. if we can add a mature kpf to these we shouls do it.
picks 10 30 and 48 on mids along with a mature recruit like moloney psd and the odd state league performer provides depth. thats 5 mids to go with genuine mids arnot, conca potentially, cotchin, deledio, ellis potentially, foley, grigg, helbig, martin, and tuck.thats 15 genuine mids all up and not a mention of a glass half full type player.
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Trade
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quick get the deal done asap
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How can anyone know he has no confidence, maybe he just doesn't have skills? Pretty poor at spoiling, can't count how many times I've seen him get his hand into a good spoiling position and just completely miss the ball
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lol at those who think chaplin will perform the same role he currently does at port. he will play kpd and most likely play on the bigger forwards. rance will likely play chb and dylan grimes will play third man up and provide a bit of rebound. another pre season into dea batchelor and morris and the backline starts to look decent.
would play conca at hb for another yr as well especially if dea does not continue to improve and stagnates.
I actually agree with you here Craw. I know you're not a big fan of Rance, though I am, but he has come leaps and bounds since coming back from suspension last year and his experience on the number one forward each week will be invaluable when he in turn starts taking the second forward. Currently when we start our attack from the back half he gets involved in the links and even carries sometimes since he isn't cumbersome and actually agile, and I think will get even more involved once moved to CHB. Grimes already gives some rebound and I think will only get better once his hammies are sorted out. I was a massive fan of Batchelor last year but was bitterly disappointed this season, but he and Dea I think both have enough upside and very interchangeable and be quality depth players. Nothing needs to be said for Morris, he's earned his spot and IMO a solid small/medium lack down and has shown he can provide run and carry. Chaplin, Rance, Grimes and Morris make for the solid backbone and all of the sudden players like Houli, Newman, Ellis (I'll just list all three as where they fall on the list to different people is entirely subjective) will be less accountable for real opponents and will be able to concentrate on their strengths and their role as play makers.
I see what you mean but chucking Conca on HB but I'm not sure if he's the right kind of player to be pigeon holed there. Currently I see him as the sort of player who starts on the bench and is just used in midfield rotations when the others come off for a breather. I'm still of the mind that he'll eventually be very good inside player once Tuck and Foley move on.
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How can anyone know he has no confidence, maybe he just doesn't have skills? Pretty poor at spoiling, can't count how many times I've seen him get his hand into a good spoiling position and just completely miss the ball
At least McGuane would lose the plot and chop blokes arms and hold them and stuff. Post the Vegemite kid with his rosey red cheeks too scared to jump into his opponent or punch that big bad ball.
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Anyone who thinks Post is of any value to our side, watch the 1st quarter against Fremantle. The amount of times in that quarter alone he sold other players into trouble because he shi t his pants as he was under pressure, then when that player (Rance on most occasions) tried to run to draw the pressure from Post, Post was stationery/observing so when he then received the ball back, he mis-passed and turned it over or on the other occasion couldn't hit the target and it went out because he thought he didn't need to get involved passed the point of dishing off in the first instance.
He is useless, and what is the good in him being able to take a solid mark, when he gets up to kick the ball he just turns it over or kicks to the worst option available to him?? :banghead Regardless of all this arguing on whether or not he will make it and whether or not he needs more time, I'm pretty certain the club has him gone at the end of year anyway based on everything he has shown us at AFL level to date.
What a stupid thing to say lol. There was 1 handball which didn't hit the target otherwise it was a very good game. Where the hell you imagine these other turnovers? You on drugs or something? 1 simple handball obviously showing lack of confidence of a young bloke who has played 30 games but spread evenly over 4 seasons. Surely you don't think he lacks the skill to handball 5m under no pressure? Composure comes into pressured situations only. This guy is just trying to fit in at afl level and is a bit nervous when he has the ball under no pressure and he prefers to give it off at this point. Kicking off 1 step is also a sign of these nerves. More games will fix this. As for everything else Post has the size, skill, mark, spoil and jumping ability to be a top defender. The club should be pumping games into him to get to 50 games nice and quickly. How does all this pass over so many heads? Unbelievable
Why's it matter if he can handball to a target 5m away with no pressure, when he can't do it with pressure? He is still nervous after 4 years in the system is he? :thumbsup :lol Not arguing that Post has the size to be a great defender, because he does but unfortunately for him and us he doesn't know how to use it to any advantage. The guy is soft, and if you think he is going to get tougher with experience, your kidding yourself. :wallywink
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Posty on the rise :thumbsup
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
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showed great sidns last nite, not his fault he occasionally slipped at crucial moments or the umps calling play on when he never did forcing him to rush
he is better than rance
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I have been happy with him last 5 weeks .Stringing games together and looks a alot better player.Should have played more games this season.For some reason we a expecting sometimes to much from Posty.Aslong as he puts in and does his job in defence or forward that's all I want.
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Thought he played really well. Was not better than Rance ( Seems to fall over a pooload though )
There was one play in the 2nd quarter I think where post took on 2 essendon guys and then drilled a pass to our Forward 50.
He is capable of doing good things, just needs the confidence which is rising.
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
You couldn't get any dumber could you?
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I'm warming to Posty. Maybe eight posts aren't enough on a footy field after all?
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Im pretty sure we'll struggle to hold onto posty with rival clubs likely to offer him long term deals and it wouldnt surprise if he considered there be better opportunities elsewhere... A second rounder beckons :shh
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Im pretty sure we'll struggle to hold onto posty with rival clubs likely to offer him long term deals and it wouldnt surprise if he considered there be better opportunities elsewhere... A second rounder beckons :shh
The retirements of Moore and miller will help him. Dont be surprised if derrickx us let go too. He should get regular games from now on considering we'll use 3 talls forwards and 3 tall backs in most games. Griffiths, Vickery and Reiwoldt forward and rance, grimes and post back. With astbury, Elton and mcguane as back up. Do we really need chaplain? All he does is turn the ball over and he'll be 27 soon. Our young talls only need to put on 4 kilos to be as big
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
You couldn't get any dumber could you?
He takes a good mark but his disposal is rubbish. Are you related to him or something? Trade while we can. Won't make it.
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I think his kicking is OK. Most of his errors seem confidence related. I think his biggest problem is his intensity, or lack there of. Although, he seems to have lifted this area in recent weeks. Hopefully he can have another good game against Port and bring some momentum into pre-season. Next year is a big year for him.
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
You couldn't get any dumber could you?
He takes a good mark but his disposal is rubbish. Are you related to him or something? Trade while we can. Won't make it.
Kicks well on both feet. You blind?
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
You couldn't get any dumber could you?
He takes a good mark but his disposal is rubbish. Are you related to him or something? Trade while we can. Won't make it.
Kicks well on both feet.
rubbish.
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Did that one very good thing last night but I worry about posty big time.
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he is better than rance
You've got to kidding. Rance is a far better player. The one thing you are guaranteed with Rance is he won't shirk a contest
I thought Post did sme good things last night but his decision making and slow reaction time again shone like a beacon during the game
Personally I think he will be put up for trade and any other club with a young list and a lack of bigger body types will be interested and if that means a 2nd rounder or early 3rd round from a GWS, GC, Edoms etc then I'd take it a heartbeat.
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I think posty could be a fairly good/solid player.
However he appears to confidence, if only we had an experienced key backmen he could look to for inspiration
:shh
I say at least another season, this kid can still make it. Needs to back himself in and looks like he needs his teammates to get behind him for encouragement.
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
You couldn't get any dumber could you?
He takes a good mark but his disposal is rubbish. Are you related to him or something? Trade while we can. Won't make it.
Kicks well on both feet.
rubbish.
You still negative from the last 30 years? Blind as anything
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
You couldn't get any dumber could you?
He takes a good mark but his disposal is rubbish. Are you related to him or something? Trade while we can. Won't make it.
Kicks well on both feet.
rubbish.
You still negative from the last 30 years? Blind as anything
He's crap man. Get over it. When he makes it you can bump this thread.
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he is better than rance
You've got to kidding. Rance is a far better player. The one thing you are guaranteed with Rance is he won't shirk a contest
I thought Post did sme good things last night but his decision making and slow reaction time again shone like a beacon during the game
Personally I think he will be put up for trade and any other club with a young list and a lack of bigger body types will be interested and if that means a 2nd rounder or early 3rd round from a GWS, GC, Edoms etc then I'd take it a heartbeat.
lets talk this time next yr , rance may not even be in the team
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he is better than rance
You've got to kidding. Rance is a far better player. The one thing you are guaranteed with Rance is he won't shirk a contest
I thought Post did sme good things last night but his decision making and slow reaction time again shone like a beacon during the game
Personally I think he will be put up for trade and any other club with a young list and a lack of bigger body types will be interested and if that means a 2nd rounder or early 3rd round from a GWS, GC, Edoms etc then I'd take it a heartbeat.
lets talk this time next yr , rance may not even be in the team
Unless he has a season ending injury there will be no way he won't be in the side....Fact.
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He's a dud. Kicking is horrible. Handballing is horrible. Trade or Delist.
Would rather Mcguane stay in for another year than this muppet.
You couldn't get any dumber could you?
He takes a good mark but his disposal is rubbish. Are you related to him or something? Trade while we can. Won't make it.
Kicks well on both feet.
rubbish.
You still negative from the last 30 years? Blind as anything
He's crap man. Get over it. When he makes it you can bump this thread.
You still think he can't kick. 2 bad kicks in 6 weeks. Both off 1 step. They are kicks of a nervous player trying to cement his spot. If the club didn't stuff him around for 12 games at Coburg he'd be playing confident footy by now. Instead of giving miller games. Derrickx and griffiths didn't do any better at Coburg. Post should have been given first opportunity considering he has been here nearly 4 years. Anyway, injury has given him the overdue opportunity and apart from the occasional nervous handball he is looking very good. We should be excited we have post, griffiths, grimes, rance and Vickery. All big talents for the future. But nah delist lol
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Many forget that since Grimesy went down ,Rance has shouldered the big man responsibilities more or less on his own ,with what i would call cameo roles by Post and Griff. i think if grimes comes back fully recovered and if we get chaplain,then it becomes a battle of 3 (Post,Griff,and chaplain) for the other spot.I guess Post being the current incumbent would get first crack at it
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def looked better on Friday - hopefully being able to string a few games together will do his confidence the world of good (as opposed to the previous "one in, five out" run he was getting...
could see him being used for trade bait but wouldn't be upset if he stayed (especially after the time we've invested) & knowing our luck would probably turn into another Schultz if he did go & wind up flourishing at another club......
what's overall consensus? keep or trade? if trade what do you think he's LEGITIMATE currency is?
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Im pretty sure we'll struggle to hold onto posty with rival clubs likely to offer him long term deals and it wouldnt surprise if he considered there be better opportunities elsewhere... A second rounder beckons :shh
The retirements of Moore and miller will help him. Dont be surprised if derrickx us let go too. He should get regular games from now on considering we'll use 3 talls forwards and 3 tall backs in most games. Griffiths, Vickery and Reiwoldt forward and rance, grimes and post back. With astbury, Elton and mcguane as back up. Do we really need chaplain? All he does is turn the ball over and he'll be 27 soon. Our young talls only need to put on 4 kilos to be as big
yes we need a player like chaplain desperately. he wpold be starting 22 quite easily a big upgrade on anything we have. we also dont have depth down back, or anywhere for that matter.
riewoldt, vickery, griffiths,elton, and astbury are all forwards. it leaves defenders mcguane who should be delisted grimes coming of another injury, rance who has his problems playing deep, post who while giving another yr to has done little to date and still has serious question marks over him.
this draft i would be targeting
4 tall defenders chaplain fa, lee nd50 , hartigan mature rookie, tanner smith nd 35.
5 mids 10, 29, 64,mature psd, one or two rookies.
2 sml/med forwards duffy nd, rookie
1 ruckman either mature or kid rookie.
1 key forward lee who can play either end.
thats a total of 12 picks 7 or 8 list proper and 4 or 5 rookies.
your trouble madone is you are forever counting your chooks before they hatch let em hatch first and if you end up with an extra one or two trade em out for more good picks.
gone list proper.
moore, connors, maconald.
5 more to go from
browne, derickx, graham, mcguane, white, post tuck and newman all uncontracted. you would think post tuck and newman are safe.
rookies gone
heslin, miller
two more to go from
maric, wright, verrier,
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Im pretty sure we'll struggle to hold onto posty with rival clubs likely to offer him long term deals and it wouldnt surprise if he considered there be better opportunities elsewhere... A second rounder beckons :shh
The retirements of Moore and miller will help him. Dont be surprised if derrickx us let go too. He should get regular games from now on considering we'll use 3 talls forwards and 3 tall backs in most games. Griffiths, Vickery and Reiwoldt forward and rance, grimes and post back. With astbury, Elton and mcguane as back up. Do we really need chaplain? All he does is turn the ball over and he'll be 27 soon. Our young talls only need to put on 4 kilos to be as big
yes we need a player like chaplain desperately. he wpold be starting 22 quite easily a big upgrade on anything we have. we also dont have depth down back, or anywhere for that matter.
riewoldt, vickery, griffiths,elton, and astbury are all forwards. it leaves defenders mcguane who should be delisted grimes coming of another injury, rance who has his problems playing deep, post who while giving another yr to has done little to date and still has serious question marks over him.
this draft i would be targeting
4 tall defenders chaplain fa, lee nd50 , hartigan mature rookie, tanner smith nd 35.
5 mids 10, 29, 64,mature psd, one or two rookies.
2 sml/med forwards duffy nd, rookie
1 ruckman either mature or kid rookie.
1 key forward lee who can play either end.
thats a total of 12 picks 7 or 8 list proper and 4 or 5 rookies.
your trouble madone is you are forever counting your chooks before they hatch let em hatch first and if you end up with an extra one or two trade em out for more good picks.
gone list proper.
moore, connors, maconald.
5 more to go from
browne, derickx, graham, mcguane, white, post tuck and newman all uncontracted. you would think post tuck and newman are safe.
rookies gone
heslin, miller
two more to go from
maric, wright, verrier,
The fact you have us drafting 12 players shows you react way too much. No way we need to draft 4 talls in defence. We need to draft 2 midfielders, a ruck man, a key tall and 2 wing/stuff types. I wouldn't be getting rid of Browne. Can't prove himself if he doesn't get a game with Maric playing. We will only get rid of another 4 players and will only have about 6 senior draft picks at most. Miller, Moore, macdonald, Connors and heslin are gone. Graham, webberley, Maric and derrickx will probably be the only ones who will go now
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Post is looking better every week. He is a big unit. Considering how many games we put into Rance before he was competitive and still the silly mistakes he makes on a consistent basis. We need to give Post some time to develop. Post has the potential to be a very solid CHB. They really need to get as many games into as they can. The lack of opportunities he has had has been disturbing given the rides some of the other players have had on this list.
Regarding Browne. Delist. No room in the AFL for slow giants. Natanui is the model we should be looking for. Tall and mobile.
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Im pretty sure we'll struggle to hold onto posty with rival clubs likely to offer him long term deals and it wouldnt surprise if he considered there be better opportunities elsewhere... A second rounder beckons :shh
The retirements of Moore and miller will help him. Dont be surprised if derrickx us let go too. He should get regular games from now on considering we'll use 3 talls forwards and 3 tall backs in most games. Griffiths, Vickery and Reiwoldt forward and rance, grimes and post back. With astbury, Elton and mcguane as back up. Do we really need chaplain? All he does is turn the ball over and he'll be 27 soon. Our young talls only need to put on 4 kilos to be as big
yes we need a player like chaplain desperately. he wpold be starting 22 quite easily a big upgrade on anything we have. we also dont have depth down back, or anywhere for that matter.
riewoldt, vickery, griffiths,elton, and astbury are all forwards. it leaves defenders mcguane who should be delisted grimes coming of another injury, rance who has his problems playing deep, post who while giving another yr to has done little to date and still has serious question marks over him.
this draft i would be targeting
4 tall defenders chaplain fa, lee nd50 , hartigan mature rookie, tanner smith nd 35.
5 mids 10, 29, 64,mature psd, one or two rookies.
2 sml/med forwards duffy nd, rookie
1 ruckman either mature or kid rookie.
1 key forward lee who can play either end.
thats a total of 12 picks 7 or 8 list proper and 4 or 5 rookies.
your trouble madone is you are forever counting your chooks before they hatch let em hatch first and if you end up with an extra one or two trade em out for more good picks.
gone list proper.
moore, connors, maconald.
5 more to go from
browne, derickx, graham, mcguane, white, post tuck and newman all uncontracted. you would think post tuck and newman are safe.
rookies gone
heslin, miller
two more to go from
maric, wright, verrier,
The fact you have us drafting 12 players shows you react way too much. No way we need to draft 4 talls in defence. We need to draft 2 midfielders, a ruck man, a key tall and 2 wing/stuff types. I wouldn't be getting rid of Browne. Can't prove himself if he doesn't get a game with Maric playing. We will only get rid of another 4 players and will only have about 6 senior draft picks at most. Miller, Moore, macdonald, Connors and heslin are gone. Graham, webberley, Maric and derrickx will probably be the only ones who will go now
I agree with The Craw, there will be 10 to 12 changes on our list this year including trades and rookies
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Get a room fun boys
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Browne.
Geez,don't even mention him please.
It's an embarrassment to the club that they have persisted with
stuffen witches hat.
Moving right along.....
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Im pretty sure we'll struggle to hold onto posty with rival clubs likely to offer him long term deals and it wouldnt surprise if he considered there be better opportunities elsewhere... A second rounder beckons :shh
The retirements of Moore and miller will help him. Dont be surprised if derrickx us let go too. He should get regular games from now on considering we'll use 3 talls forwards and 3 tall backs in most games. Griffiths, Vickery and Reiwoldt forward and rance, grimes and post back. With astbury, Elton and mcguane as back up. Do we really need chaplain? All he does is turn the ball over and he'll be 27 soon. Our young talls only need to put on 4 kilos to be as big
yes we need a player like chaplain desperately. he wpold be starting 22 quite easily a big upgrade on anything we have. we also dont have depth down back, or anywhere for that matter.
riewoldt, vickery, griffiths,elton, and astbury are all forwards. it leaves defenders mcguane who should be delisted grimes coming of another injury, rance who has his problems playing deep, post who while giving another yr to has done little to date and still has serious question marks over him.
this draft i would be targeting
4 tall defenders chaplain fa, lee nd50 , hartigan mature rookie, tanner smith nd 35.
5 mids 10, 29, 64,mature psd, one or two rookies.
2 sml/med forwards duffy nd, rookie
1 ruckman either mature or kid rookie.
1 key forward lee who can play either end.
thats a total of 12 picks 7 or 8 list proper and 4 or 5 rookies.
your trouble madone is you are forever counting your chooks before they hatch let em hatch first and if you end up with an extra one or two trade em out for more good picks.
gone list proper.
moore, connors, maconald.
5 more to go from
browne, derickx, graham, mcguane, white, post tuck and newman all uncontracted. you would think post tuck and newman are safe.
rookies gone
heslin, miller
two more to go from
maric, wright, verrier,
The fact you have us drafting 12 players shows you react way too much. No way we need to draft 4 talls in defence. We need to draft 2 midfielders, a ruck man, a key tall and 2 wing/stuff types. I wouldn't be getting rid of Browne. Can't prove himself if he doesn't get a game with Maric playing. We will only get rid of another 4 players and will only have about 6 senior draft picks at most. Miller, Moore, macdonald, Connors and heslin are gone. Graham, webberley, Maric and derrickx will probably be the only ones who will go now
ooh dear
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Browne must go
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he is better than rance
You've got to kidding. Rance is a far better player. The one thing you are guaranteed with Rance is he won't shirk a contest
I thought Post did sme good things last night but his decision making and slow reaction time again shone like a beacon during the game
Personally I think he will be put up for trade and any other club with a young list and a lack of bigger body types will be interested and if that means a 2nd rounder or early 3rd round from a GWS, GC, Edoms etc then I'd take it a heartbeat.
lets talk this time next yr , rance may not even be in the team
Don't think we need to wait until next year, think we can chat about it in around 10 weeks, after trade time because there's a good chance that Post won't even be at the club ;D
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Don't think we need to wait until next year, think we can chat about it in around 10 weeks, after trade time because there's a good chance that Post won't even be at the club ;D
We can only pray. :pray
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Don't think we need to wait until next year, think we can chat about it in around 10 weeks, after trade time because there's a good chance that Post won't even be at the club ;D
We can only pray. :pray
Yeah let's pray we lose a promising young tall. They are so common. You idiot
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Don't think we need to wait until next year, think we can chat about it in around 10 weeks, after trade time because there's a good chance that Post won't even be at the club ;D
We can only pray. :pray
Yeah let's pray we lose a promising young tall. They are so common. You idiot
I would agree with the idiot comment if I could agree with the promising comment.
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:lol
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Don't think we need to wait until next year, think we can chat about it in around 10 weeks, after trade time because there's a good chance that Post won't even be at the club ;D
We can only pray. :pray
Yeah let's pray we lose a promising young tall. They are so common. You idiot
Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them an idiot
As much as you may not like it a lot of people don't rate Post.
You can make as many excuses for him as you like but I would argue that if he'd shown more especially in the aggression stakes in regards to the opposition and the contest he would have played a lot more games than he has.
That's been the biggest mark against him and still is
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He's playing right now and going ok. Good to see. Still, we need another big defender if Coach is going to be confident about us playing finals.
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65 thinks that talking about himself in the third person is very clever. :lol
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65 thinks that talking about himself in the third person is very clever. :lol
Do you talk about yourself in the 3rd person when you're teaching? For example do you tell the kids, now listen up guys, Mr 1965 thinks that if you barrack for Collingwood you will end up in the big house, so support the Tiges because we represent the true believers of the working class! ;D
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somebody teach Post how to handball
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somebody teach Post how to handball
brad miller has just signed a 3 year deal to do that :shh
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what is the story with BM?
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Taking Posty under his wing is the mail. Wait until Mrakov hears the great news :clapping
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post will be pumping handballs out the back all summer
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:burgereater
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Taking Posty under his wing is the mail. Wait until Mrakov hears the great news :clapping
I previously wanted him delisted but now that this news has broken I want to keep him. Sign him to a 5 year deal @ 1.1 mil a season.
Our Brad is gone but his spirit shall live inside our Posty! I'm sorry MadTiger.. I was wrong. Post is a gun. Gives a good handball out the back and puts on a fierce block. Punches the ball into oblivion too.
Go our Jayden!
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Ankles like steel traps and hands like a couple'a wet sausages :shh
8 posts is not enough on a footy field! :bow
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Ankles like steel traps and hands like a couple'a wet sausages :shh
8 posts is not enough on a footy field! :bow
LMAO
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FFS, you are all a pack of whingers, trust the club, trust the coach and the list managers, I reckon Posty is OK and with some confidence will do well.
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FFS, you are all a pack of whingers, trust the club, trust the coach and the list managers, I reckon Posty is OK and with some confidence will do well.
Will you hold that stance when they delist/trade him this off season?
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FFS, you are all a pack of whingers, trust the club, trust the coach and the list managers, I reckon Posty is OK and with some confidence will do well.
Will you hold that stance when they delist/trade him this off season?
No chance of being delisted. If he was traded it shows he's worth something but I reckon the club would be stupid to trade a 22 year old key position player on the rise.
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I think there's a huge possibility that he wont be at Richmond next year, regardless of what we think (being poo or on the rise).
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FFS, you are all a pack of whingers, trust the club, trust the coach and the list managers, I reckon Posty is OK and with some confidence will do well.
Will you hold that stance when they delist/trade him this off season?
No chance of being delisted. If he was traded it shows he's worth something but I reckon the club would be stupid to trade a 22 year old key position player on the rise.
Keep, Trade, Delist, whatever the club decides I will support, I reckon if Tom Hawkins had been at RFC we would have traded him, look at him go now. Posty just needs to mature and we seem to have a habit in running out of patience with our larger bodied players.
It's not like there are hundreds of players like Post around.
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FFS, you are all a pack of whingers, trust the club, trust the coach and the list managers, I reckon Posty is OK and with some confidence will do well.
Will you hold that stance when they delist/trade him this off season?
No chance of being delisted. If he was traded it shows he's worth something but I reckon the club would be stupid to trade a 22 year old key position player on the rise.
Keep, Trade, Delist, whatever the club decides I will support, I reckon if Tom Hawkins had been at RFC we would have traded him, look at him go now. Posty just needs to mature and we seem to have a habit in running out of patience with our larger bodied players.
It's not like there are hundreds of players like Post around.
Yeah most Richmond supporters would have delisted hawkins, lonergan at 21 years of age. Smart people they are 8)
They frustrate the crap out of me with their impatience/brainless nonsense
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Schulz
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Schulz
Cleve.....
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Archibald
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Laffy. LOL.
Lets give everyone 10 year contracts and see what happens....
Whether Post is any good or not, he needs to play senior football so that we can find out what he is capable of. Lost opportunity this year dropping him after round 1.
Hawkins had how many years in the seniors being carried before he finally matured. Richmond likes to leave our developing forwards in the substandard reserve competition for years where the duds of our duds rarely get the ball past centre and when they finally do butcher it beyond belief. Then RFC turns the forwards into backman so they can occasionally touch the football when their confidence is totally shot. Hawkins wouldn't have made it at Richmond. Would be playing reserves football and struggling for a kick in defense. Would be getting bashed week in weekout by rejects.
You can't blame supporters for not being able to differentiate between a poor player or a player who has been crucified by the RFC football development system and coach. Supporters can only judge players on what they deliver.
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Laffy. LOL.
Lets give everyone 10 year contracts and see what happens....
Whether Post is any good or not, he needs to play senior football so that we can find out what he is capable of. Lost opportunity this year dropping him after round 1.
Hawkins had how many years in the seniors being carried before he finally matured. Richmond likes to leave our developing forwards in the substandard reserve competition for years where the duds of our duds rarely get the ball past centre and when they finally do butcher it beyond belief. Then RFC turns the forwards into backman so they can occasionally touch the football when their confidence is totally shot. Hawkins wouldn't have made it at Richmond. Would be playing reserves football and struggling for a kick in defense. Would be getting bashed week in weekout by rejects.
You can't blame supporters for not being able to differentiate between a poor player or a player who has been crucified by the RFC football development system and coach. Supporters can only judge players on what they deliver.
Post of the year. Most tiger supporters need to get in the real world.
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Laffy. LOL.
Lets give everyone 10 year contracts and see what happens....
Whether Post is any good or not, he needs to play senior football so that we can find out what he is capable of. Lost opportunity this year dropping him after round 1.
Hawkins had how many years in the seniors being carried before he finally matured. Richmond likes to leave our developing forwards in the substandard reserve competition for years where the duds of our duds rarely get the ball past centre and when they finally do butcher it beyond belief. Then RFC turns the forwards into backman so they can occasionally touch the football when their confidence is totally shot. Hawkins wouldn't have made it at Richmond. Would be playing reserves football and struggling for a kick in defense. Would be getting bashed week in weekout by rejects.
You can't blame supporters for not being able to differentiate between a poor player or a player who has been crucified by the RFC football development system and coach. Supporters can only judge players on what they deliver.
Post of the year. Most tiger supporters need to get in the real world.
Including you?
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Laffy. LOL.
Lets give everyone 10 year contracts and see what happens....
Whether Post is any good or not, he needs to play senior football so that we can find out what he is capable of. Lost opportunity this year dropping him after round 1.
Hawkins had how many years in the seniors being carried before he finally matured. Richmond likes to leave our developing forwards in the substandard reserve competition for years where the duds of our duds rarely get the ball past centre and when they finally do butcher it beyond belief. Then RFC turns the forwards into backman so they can occasionally touch the football when their confidence is totally shot. Hawkins wouldn't have made it at Richmond. Would be playing reserves football and struggling for a kick in defense. Would be getting bashed week in weekout by rejects.
You can't blame supporters for not being able to differentiate between a poor player or a player who has been crucified by the RFC football development system and coach. Supporters can only judge players on what they deliver.
Post of the year. Most tiger supporters need to get in the real world.
Including you?
I actually give young players good opportunity. I give them every chance to improve. Unlike most of our supporters
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Laffy. LOL.
Lets give everyone 10 year contracts and see what happens....
Whether Post is any good or not, he needs to play senior football so that we can find out what he is capable of. Lost opportunity this year dropping him after round 1.
Hawkins had how many years in the seniors being carried before he finally matured. Richmond likes to leave our developing forwards in the substandard reserve competition for years where the duds of our duds rarely get the ball past centre and when they finally do butcher it beyond belief. Then RFC turns the forwards into backman so they can occasionally touch the football when their confidence is totally shot. Hawkins wouldn't have made it at Richmond. Would be playing reserves football and struggling for a kick in defense. Would be getting bashed week in weekout by rejects.
You can't blame supporters for not being able to differentiate between a poor player or a player who has been crucified by the RFC football development system and coach. Supporters can only judge players on what they deliver.
Post of the year. Most tiger supporters need to get in the real world.
Including you?
I actually give young players good opportunity. I give them every chance to improve. Unlike most of our supporters
:fishing
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FFS, you are all a pack of whingers, trust the club, trust the coach and the list managers, I reckon Posty is OK and with some confidence will do well.
Did I just step out of the Tardis?
These sorts of comments were thrown about with gay abandon 2 years ago....Nothing has changed. Kick backwards, a sloppy handball to a player under pressure...
Mind you I did see him attack the ball and evade two defenders against the bummers which made me stop and think "F Me...was that post??"
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The big man is back.
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The big man is back.
:clapping :clapping
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FFS, you are all a pack of whingers, trust the club, trust the coach and the list managers, I reckon Posty is OK and with some confidence will do well.
Did I just step out of the Tardis?
These sorts of comments were thrown about with gay abandon 2 years ago....Nothing has changed. Kick backwards, a sloppy handball to a player under pressure...
Mind you I did see him attack the ball and evade two defenders against the bummers which made me stop and think "F Me...was that post??"
You werent the only one, I was stunned for about two minutes when I realised it was Post.
I was trying to work out who the two bummers were, softer tacklers than Tabouli and grigg in those two.
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Laffy. LOL.
Lets give everyone 10 year contracts and see what happens....
Whether Post is any good or not, he needs to play senior football so that we can find out what he is capable of. Lost opportunity this year dropping him after round 1.
Hawkins had how many years in the seniors being carried before he finally matured. Richmond likes to leave our developing forwards in the substandard reserve competition for years where the duds of our duds rarely get the ball past centre and when they finally do butcher it beyond belief. Then RFC turns the forwards into backman so they can occasionally touch the football when their confidence is totally shot. Hawkins wouldn't have made it at Richmond. Would be playing reserves football and struggling for a kick in defense. Would be getting bashed week in weekout by rejects.
You can't blame supporters for not being able to differentiate between a poor player or a player who has been crucified by the RFC football development system and coach. Supporters can only judge players on what they deliver.
Great comment
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Watts MkII
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Watts MkII
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8016/7465110418_5efc2ebb74_z.jpg)
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The argument is would you want 27 year old Chaplin who can be a shocking kick or would you want a promising 22 year old? Bringing in Chaplin would cause young backs to want to move clubs just to get a game. I'd take the 22 year old any day of the week. I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
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Let's get Watts. Surely on the brink of a break out year. Just look at Hawkins :cheers
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Let's get Watts. Surely on the brink of a break out year. Just look at Hawkins :cheers
By the time he's 24 he'll probably be a fine player. You won't see Melbourne getting rid of him
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Get it done, Tiges :clapping
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The argument is would you want 27 year old Chaplin who can be a shocking kick or would you want a promising 22 year old? Bringing in Chaplin would cause young backs to want to move clubs just to get a game. I'd take the 22 year old any day of the week. I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
Both can be a shocking kick but the reality is we need depth and you can actually have depth and still develop players, so there is no argument. Considering the fragility of Grimes, Griffiths, Vickery & Astbury, Posty should have no dramas getting regular games. Not to mention if he's so good and Chaplin so poo he shouldn't have any trouble beating him to a spot either – the other talls don't struggle to get games. And if he thinks changing clubs will mean a walk up start in someone else's 22 he's got more issues than I thought.
I'm hoping you trip down the stairs on your way to the toilet at the end of the first quarter, break your ankle and wet yourself :laugh:
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The argument is would you want 27 year old Chaplin who can be a shocking kick or would you want a promising 22 year old? Bringing in Chaplin would cause young backs to want to move clubs just to get a game. I'd take the 22 year old any day of the week. I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
Why then last year would we bring in a 26yo Ruckman when we had a promising 22yo Ruckman allready on the list :huh :huh
How much have you actually seen of Chaplin?? Considering he was ruled out for the rest of the season 4 weeks ago while he has a knee clean up I wouldn't say you have seen alot ;D I would rather have Chaplin down back than Post any day of the week......Period.
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The argument is would you want 27 year old Chaplin who can be a shocking kick or would you want a promising 22 year old? Bringing in Chaplin would cause young backs to want to move clubs just to get a game. I'd take the 22 year old any day of the week. I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
I'm hoping you trip down the stairs on your way to the toilet at the end of the first quarter, break your ankle and wet yourself :laugh:
:lol :lol
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The argument is would you want 27 year old Chaplin who can be a shocking kick or would you want a promising 22 year old? Bringing in Chaplin would cause young backs to want to move clubs just to get a game. I'd take the 22 year old any day of the week. I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
Both can be a shocking kick but the reality is we need depth and you can actually have depth and still develop players, so there is no argument. Considering the fragility of Grimes, Griffiths, Vickery & Astbury, Posty should have no dramas getting regular games. Not to mention if he's so good and Chaplin so poo he shouldn't have any trouble beating him to a spot either – the other talls don't struggle to get games. And if he thinks changing clubs will mean a walk up start in someone else's 22 he's got more issues than I thought.
I'm hoping you trip down the stairs on your way to the toilet at the end of the first quarter, break your ankle and wet yourself :laugh:
It's all on the same level ;D
Just kidding about Chappy doing his knee 8)
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The argument is would you want 27 year old Chaplin who can be a shocking kick or would you want a promising 22 year old? Bringing in Chaplin would cause young backs to want to move clubs just to get a game. I'd take the 22 year old any day of the week. I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
Why then last year would we bring in a 26yo Ruckman when we had a promising 22yo Ruckman allready on the list :huh :huh
How much have you actually seen of Chaplin?? Considering he was ruled out for the rest of the season 4 weeks ago while he has a knee clean up I wouldn't say you have seen alot ;D I would rather have Chaplin down back than Post any day of the week......Period.
There's only 1 true ruckman on game day so you can't delevop and have a big impact at the same time. It's alot easier for key position players because there are 3 at each end so you can cover your team mates. Ruckman are playing a vital role of trying to win centre breaks so it makes alot of sense to get a quality ruck. I just worry about adding another tall defender. Post looks to be coming good now and it would be a prick if he wanted to leave because he has found it hard to get games and will find it hard next year if Chaplin comes. I have no problem playing Rance, Grimes, Post/Griffiths in defence. They are young but we aren't getting smashed down there so why change it? They are becoming better with games and not hurting us on the scoreboard much at all while they are learning
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The "inside" word is that Post does not like the contact too much - if you are a big man, then would suggest you need to be hard at it. They are working hard to improve his contest and presence
As I have said before - when has Post "accidently" punched the back of the forward's head going for the ball?? When has he taken a pack mark?
4 years and FA games - thanks for the service expect him to be moved on
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Inside word lol
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When has Post even punched the footy? Still looks like a Vegemite kid. Fifty shades of Post.
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When has Post even punched the footy? Still looks like a Vegemite kid. Fifty shades of Post.
About 5 times a game
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Inb4 MadTiger calls us dumb and blind again
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
Lol
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
Says the fair weather fan
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
is this guy serious????????
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
is this guy serious????????
Unfortunately he is. Used to post the same tripe on Y&B until they banned him
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Ahh YB77 - used to rattle on about how liberating it was talking a dump whilst standing up. That's the calibre of bloke you are dealing with.
In fact, if i recall one particular statement :-
"Don't knock a good standing poo unless you've tried it. Especially after a dozen rum n cokes and a six pack of Melbs... And your pants still on... I swear it felt like I just had fart , but to my surprise..."
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classy poster
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W T F :help
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The man has nuts :clapping
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
That is not called for.
Whatever the future holds for this kid that is poor form to say something like that regardless of what anyone thinks of him as a footballer. >:(
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
That is not called for.
Whatever the future holds for this kid that is poor form to say something like that regardless of what anyone thinks of him as a footballer. >:(
In all fairness Tucker, he was only replying 'like for like' to another stupid, insensitive and immature comment by another poster.
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
That is not called for.
Whatever the future holds for this kid that is poor form to say something like that regardless of what anyone thinks of him as a footballer. >:(
In all fairness Tucker, he was only replying 'like for like' to another stupid, insensitive and immature comment by another poster.
What is this
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
That is not called for.
Whatever the future holds for this kid that is poor form to say something like that regardless of what anyone thinks of him as a footballer. >:(
Hows my post any different to this TuckerBag :huh :huh :huh I was taking the pee out of o'l MadTiger2010 ;D Might pay to do some research before you fire from the hip next time Bloke..
I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
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Sounds like post will be forward a bit next year and rance midfield a bit. Both will probably play some defence too
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Sounds like post will be forward a bit next year and rance midfield a bit. Both will probably play some defence too
Silly comments like this is what makes people disregard your opinion
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Sounds like post will be forward a bit next year and rance midfield a bit. Both will probably play some defence too
Silly comments like this is what makes people disregard your opinion
That's why they call him Mad-Tiger ;)
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Sounds like post will be forward a bit next year and rance midfield a bit. Both will probably play some defence too
I don't care where he plays as long as it is a place where he is not a danger to himself and those around him. I'm hoping he plays in the new position of deep extra wing which should hopefully position him quite nicely in Jolimont and well out of harms way.
Toot toot!!
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I hope Post does his Knee this week and is discarded to the pile of other richmond duds forever.
That is not called for.
Whatever the future holds for this kid that is poor form to say something like that regardless of what anyone thinks of him as a footballer. >:(
Hows my post any different to this TuckerBag :huh :huh :huh I was taking the pee out of o'l MadTiger2010 ;D Might pay to do some research before you fire from the hip next time Bloke..
I'm hoping Chaplin does his knee this week so we dont make a stupid mistake :D
Apologies YB77 didn't read all the posts was being lazy night and read a handful of them. :thumbsup
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That's the spirit Big Man :clapping :clapping
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A post on page 37. ;D
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From BF:
"Speaking to my brother today who has connections to Post's family .... hint was dropped Post has signed a new contract .... but will try to confirm this over the weekend as its the same source hinting at interest from Adelaide"
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/end-of-season-gossip.967998/page-46#post-25457194
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Terrific, just terrific
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Slow and sluggish on ground level and just does not go hard enough.
Has been handed a go and played every game in the last two months and this is the assessment I have for the kid. Just lacks pace decision making ability and hardness.
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Is not up to AFL standard and never will be.
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Took some good grabs and kicked a crunch goal.
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Took some good grabs and kicked a crunch goal.
Yep and for the most part moved so slowly to the ball and got crunch tackled by likes half his size.
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Good first half and kicked a goal. Needs to take the next step next season. We'll have to get through the trade period to see what the club have in mind before talking about 2013 for a number of players though
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Good match for the bumbers list with all their soft tissues
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Is not up to AFL standard and never will be.
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Some of you guys have no idea ....post has been getting better by the week.... Can play fwd and back... He is better than rance and younger.. Has more upside than rance and u watch next yr onwards post will dominate
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As I posted on another thread
Yes terrific, just terrific
Only refused to chase and attack the contest about a 12 odd times yesterday, it was terrific
Good first half and kicked a goal. Needs to take the next step next season. We'll have to get through the trade period to see what the club have in mind before talking about 2013 for a number of players though
Yes his first 15 minutes was simply stunning, it was de ja vu of round 1 against the Blues when he pulled up to avoid a contest down in Port's FWD pocket, set the the tone for the day
sadly
Terrific, just terrific
Some of you guys have no idea ....post has been getting better by the week.... Can play fwd and back... He is better than rance and younger.. Has more upside than rance and u watch next yr onwards post will dominate
Not sure how you can see he is better than Rance. Natural talent wise I'd probably agree with you but seriously that isn't enough.
Unfortunately for Post he lacks one key ingredient that Rance has in bucket loads of and that for a bloke of Post's size you need have plenty of and that's playing without fear. You need to be willing to crash packs, put yopur body on the line despite what you are about to cop.
Someone on here once posted about another player (Gus for memory) built like Tarzan playes like Jane - that's Post's biggest weakness. He should be crashing packs and attacking contest meaning he puts fear into the pip squeaks he's up against. Sadly he doesn't
As for next year it wouldn't be a surprise if he's runinng around for someone else
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He is everything Hardwick wasn't as a player and I won't be in the least surprised to see him cut. His biggest strength is supposedly his marking yet he drops more marks than he takes, he is soft as at the contest, he is lazy, and he panics. In the Macquarie dictionary under "List Clogger" you will find the name "Post".
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Develop him as a forward or gtfo.
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He had a good game. Rance makes just as many mistakes as Post and just about everyone rates him. Clearly favouritism at play here.
What Post does well is generates run and reads the play. He is a big boy. I don't believe he is scared. He just needs confidence and that will come the more games he plays. 6 marks, 92% disposal efficiency, 13 possessions, 2 tackles, 1 goal. Not bad for a developing back man.
If we want to complain about a big man not chasing enough, well Martin doesn't chase either. There are a lot of soft players on our list who are afraid to tackle or too skinny to be effective. I don't expect massive chases from a guy his size.
If he gets a big preseason and a bit of Maric into him, he could be a very good CHB.
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speaking of Ivan... what got into him yesterday lmao
at one stage thought he was going to dig a ditch a put someone's entire family in there
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Next year I wanna see more grunt in Post and more confidence with the ball. He's still only 22 and plenty to work with
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Next year I don't want to see Post playing for Richmond.
If anyone actually thinks he offers more than Grimes/Rance/Chaplin/Griffiths then they are deluded. We are not developing players at Richmond in 2013, we are out to win and make an impact in finals FFS. Post, based off his performances, will not be a part of that nor will he take us there.
Maybe what all you 'pro-Post' people are saying is "I hope he stays on in 2013, and continues to develop his basic skills. I hope he can create some sort of aggression and poise at Coburg, so if several of our preferred options in the back line go down with injury/suspension, we have a replacement who can actually IMPACT a game when they are called upon." ??? :whistle
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speaking of Ivan... what got into him yesterday lmao
at one stage thought he was going to dig a ditch a put someone's entire family in there
That's for his end of season trip to radelaide.
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I dont mind post but he definately pulled out of a few contests yesterday or did. It go 100%, not good boy!
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I dont mind post but he definately pulled out of a few contests yesterday or did. It go 100%, not good boy!
Please RFC trade him whilst we might get a 4th round pick. Next year he would be de-listed in any case.......and this coming from a Post supporter. He is slow and timid and not skilled.
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I dont mind post but he definately pulled out of a few contests yesterday or did. It go 100%, not good boy!
Please RFC trade him whilst we might get a 4th round pick. Next year he would be de-listed in any case.......and this coming from a Post supporter. He is slow and timid and not skilled.
Pretty certain the club would take it if it was offered. Does he have any currency though? Who would trade for him?
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I dont mind post but he definately pulled out of a few contests yesterday or did. It go 100%, not good boy!
Please RFC trade him whilst we might get a 4th round pick. Next year he would be de-listed in any case.......and this coming from a Post supporter. He is slow and timid and not skilled.
Pretty certain the club would take it if it was offered. Does he have any currency though? Who would trade for him?
Bulldogs were real keen back when we drafted him, hopefully they'd take him. I've seen enough of Posty, will never make it imo
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It's a reall shame that he hasn't come on.
Has the height and athleticism can take a mark including contested. Just lacks mongrel, poise, aggression and confidence. Reminds me of what my Geelong supporter friends used to complain about the tommahawk.
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It's a reall shame that he hasn't come on.
Has the height and athleticism can take a mark including contested. Just lacks mongrel, poise, aggression and confidence. Reminds me of what my Geelong supporter friends used to complain about the tommahawk.
These things, can be argued, are more important than any other. You just need to be competitive in footy these days, and he doesn't compete.
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Wouldn't want to be on the trenches
With this bloke...he is a cat!!!
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He is everything Hardwick wasn't as a player and I won't be in the least surprised to see him cut. His biggest strength is supposedly his marking yet he drops more marks than he takes, he is soft as at the contest, he is lazy, and he panics. In the Macquarie dictionary under "List Clogger" you will find the name "Post".
Hardwick was an overrated knob. Watch his brilliant efforts vs us when he played at Port. Made Post look courageous
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speaking of Ivan... what got into him yesterday lmao
at one stage thought he was going to dig a ditch a put someone's entire family in there
How funny was that :lol Think he was talking to Logan. There's two tough SOBs right there
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He had a good game. Rance makes just as many mistakes as Post and just about everyone rates him. Clearly favouritism at play here.
What Post does well is generates run and reads the play. He is a big boy. I don't believe he is scared. He just needs confidence and that will come the more games he plays. 6 marks, 92% disposal efficiency, 13 possessions, 2 tackles, 1 goal. Not bad for a developing back man.
If we want to complain about a big man not chasing enough, well Martin doesn't chase either. There are a lot of soft players on our list who are afraid to tackle or too skinny to be effective. I don't expect massive chases from a guy his size.
If he gets a big preseason and a bit of Maric into him, he could be a very good CHB.
bingo :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Bulltish :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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Certainly can take a good grab but just doesn't do enough. A real shame he has not developed
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I dont mind post but he definately pulled out of a few contests yesterday or did. It go 100%, not good boy!
Please RFC trade him whilst we might get a 4th round pick. Next year he would be de-listed in any case.......and this coming from a Post supporter. He is slow and timid and not skilled.
Pretty certain the club would take it if it was offered. Does he have any currency though? Who would trade for him?
Bulldogs were real keen back when we drafted him, hopefully they'd take him. I've seen enough of Posty, will never make it imo
perhaps they might trade us christian Howard, who we were keen on wehen they drafted him?
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Some of you guys have no idea ....post has been getting better by the week.... Can play fwd and back... He is better than rance and younger.. Has more upside than rance and u watch next yr onwards post will dominate
Easily the dumbest post i have read in the 3 years i have been on here... And there's been plenty... NFI!!
Cleve Hughes had more upside than Post. And we all know what happened to Cleve.
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I dont mind post but he definately pulled out of a few contests yesterday or did. It go 100%, not good boy!
Please RFC trade him whilst we might get a 4th round pick. Next year he would be de-listed in any case.......and this coming from a Post supporter. He is slow and timid and not skilled.
Pretty certain the club would take it if it was offered. Does he have any currency though? Who would trade for him?
Bulldogs were real keen back when we drafted him, hopefully they'd take him. I've seen enough of Posty, will never make it imo
perhaps they might trade us christian Howard, who we were keen on wehen they drafted him?
I'd settle for their 3rd or 4th round pick TBBH
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He had a good game. Rance makes just as many mistakes as Post and just about everyone rates him. Clearly favouritism at play here.
What Post does well is generates run and reads the play. He is a big boy. I don't believe he is scared. He just needs confidence and that will come the more games he plays. 6 marks, 92% disposal efficiency, 13 possessions, 2 tackles, 1 goal. Not bad for a developing back man.
If we want to complain about a big man not chasing enough, well Martin doesn't chase either. There are a lot of soft players on our list who are afraid to tackle or too skinny to be effective. I don't expect massive chases from a guy his size.
If he gets a big preseason and a bit of Maric into him, he could be a very good CHB.
Gotta take the good with the bad, they makes as many mistakes as each other, Rance generates more run than post, doesnt play scared and gives him a crack at all times. Thats why people rate him more than Post
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Suff me. No one should have to explain why they rate Rance more than Post
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Rance should also be applauded for holding one of the best forwards in the game to 4.1 (and 12 marks). If any other defender we have was on said forward (apart from Grimes) then he would have kicked 7.
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I feel for Rance.Since grimes has been injured hes had to take on every monster forward that has come our way more or less on his own....I really rate him and feel he can step up even more given some help down back
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Please RFC trade him whilst we might get a 4th round pick.
Take it and run.
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Rance's spoil in the fourth quarter and his marking in the last quarter was very good. Rance makes mistakes but over time he has reduced the amount of mistakes he makes. His attitude is fantastic. To compare him with Post is to compare chalk with cheese
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only trolls or fools would compare them.