Does anyone have a list of the top 20 or so drafties?? Or a list of the drafties and their style of play as we have had in the past?
Does anyone have a list of the top 20 or so drafties?? Or a list of the drafties and their style of play as we have had in the past?
Dare a recommend a bunch of novices to judge a player but you can at least get an idea from the BigFooty phantom draft better than most places so far.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=615118
Here is Burgatron's top 18 in no order.......Does anyone have a list of the top 20 or so drafties?? Or a list of the drafties and their style of play as we have had in the past?
Dare a recommend a bunch of novices to judge a player but you can at least get an idea from the BigFooty phantom draft better than most places so far.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=615118
Thanks TA.
is it possible for Scully to say he wants to come to Richmond?
He hasn't looked impressive at all in any of the WAFL videos I've seen.
Apparently they are also doing a 10 down to 1 countdown on the coverage.
Apparently they are also doing a 10 down to 1 countdown on the coverage.
Absolute idiocy.
Agreed, what's the point? What a stupid idea.
It will have to be done 1-10 when done live so whoever gets taken #1 will be announced in the rest of the news formats as soon as the pick is taken.
Agreed, what's the point? What a stupid idea.
It will have to be done 1-10 when done live so whoever gets taken #1 will be announced in the rest of the news formats as soon as the pick is taken.
Agree it is pointless, but the AFL could ask the clubs in order for the first 10 picks to write down who they want (passing the sheet around so we know who Melbourne took etc) and then announce it 10->1. Nothing stopping them.
Not if the teams from 1-10 have to pick behind closed doors, then the afl releases their picks in reverse order, so 10 down to 1. The countdown is the first the team with pick 11 sees the results so therefore still has the same time constraint apply to them, makes sense to me?Agreed, what's the point? What a stupid idea.
It will have to be done 1-10 when done live so whoever gets taken #1 will be announced in the rest of the news formats as soon as the pick is taken.
Agree it is pointless, but the AFL could ask the clubs in order for the first 10 picks to write down who they want (passing the sheet around so we know who Melbourne took etc) and then announce it 10->1. Nothing stopping them.
What about time allocations? The sides immediately after pick 10 would have an extraordinary amount of time to consider their pick compared to the others as they watch players get eliminated closest to their pick, and can continue to consider their options if a candidate gets taken. Would be quite a nice advantage for them.
What about time allocations? The sides immediately after pick 10 would have an extraordinary amount of time to consider their pick compared to the others as they watch players get eliminated closest to their pick, and can continue to consider their options if a candidate gets taken. Would be quite a nice advantage for them.
Does anyone know how many senior games Trengove has played in the SANFL.I don't know if I'll have him up with a Rich but he is playing senior footy for Sturt in the SANFL since July (6 games) and been named in their bests a couple of times.
Is he a ready made player like Rich ?
our big problem is our forward line. gee i hope Butcher slips through. Jack and co need help and need help if we are to be competitiveI'll tell you something Daniel, i'm pretty sure we are drafting a mid-fielder with our first pick so i'm told.
one thinks the dees will take him and Scully. His a Melbourne boy and they need a forward with Robertson retiring.
id say its a done deal.
our big problem is our forward line. gee i hope Butcher slips through. Jack and co need help and need help if we are to be competitiveI'll tell you something Daniel, i'm pretty sure we are drafting a mid-fielder with our first pick so i'm told.
one thinks the dees will take him and Scully. His a Melbourne boy and they need a forward with Robertson retiring.
id say its a done deal.
Personally i would take Butcher first if he was still around, good key forwards are hard to come by and mid-fielders are around every year.
We need to build a spine and work from that.
Our second pick could still get us a good mid-fielder.
I think everyone would agree that under no circumstances should we even think for a milli-second about trading away picks 3 or 19.No trading picks away full stop :thumbsup.
I think we need to look at deals that may get us say Freo's pick 20 or Port's pick 24Does Port still want Sarge?! ;D
And if St Kilda really want Jordie I say fine pick 33 for Jordie and our pick 35 ;DWe are all desperately keen to offload him :lol.
Still reckon Trengove is better than Butcher, lets hope he is there at pick 3.
Still reckon Trengove is better than Butcher, lets hope he is there at pick 3.
Still reckon Trengove is better than Butcher, lets hope he is there at pick 3.
I'm with you WAT. Trengove is my 'want' - Damien Street's 'overflowing hamburger' theory. Key forwards are quite impotent without decent supply while average forwards are made much better with a Rolls Royce midfield.
I agree smokey - even though our forwardline is very light on if we continually lose out of the middle then it doesn't matter how good your forwards are they will never see the ball.
Morabito is said to be Pavlich-like.An very raw Pav compared to Pav when drafted. He'd be persecuted at RFC for his questionable foot skills by the end of his first year.
Morabito is said to be Pavlich-like.
I don't think Morabito's kicking is that bad, its just not as elite as others.
3- John Butcher
19- Ryan Harwood
35- Zac Ledin
51- Charlie McAdam
67- Chaz Sargeant
These phantom drafts are rarely correct beyond the first round but other than Butcher, does anyone know anything about the others?
Stripes
This is how I see the draft at the moment.
2 standouts - Scully and Trengove
1 potentially elite forward - Butcher
2 X Factor Players - Morabito and Gary Rohan
and then a host of mids and mayb 2-3 more talls worthy of top 20 pick.
On that basis, and going on what Cameron has said, we will either pick Trengove or Butcher, as our two most important needs are an elite mid and a KPF.
Therefore, we will pick up Trengove/Butcher dependent on Melbourne, then go next need with pick 2 or best available if one is not there.
In our current position, I can't see the Tigers taking a risk and picking a player to develop, we will most likely go the sure thing in Trengove.
also, did anyone know that Trentgove is actually a Victorian?I think you're confusing him torch with Port's Jackson Trengove who is a KPP picked up in last year's draft at #22 from Calder Cannons.
he played in the EDFL, then moved to Adelaide under a scollarship.
Cunnington is a gun.
I think Trengove is better though, the whole stay at home thing is a bit garbage and Moribetto wil not go till 7. Freo will not pass him up for the life of them.
I'd rather take Trengove and have him turn into a star and want to go home for a good trade then restrict our selection to Victorian kids who turn out ok over a career at Richmond.
McGuane, Rance, Thursfield, Moore, Post and at this stage Schulz and Polak as backups. Other areas need attention.
McGuane, Rance, Thursfield, Moore, Post and at this stage Schulz and Polak as backups. Other areas need attention.
your taking the pee Jezza, surely??
do you go to games and im being serious here.
Schuz is rubbish, in fact if you look up poo in wikipedia there he is good old Jay.
Everyone wanted him played in defence. Guess what, same result he did nothing
Everyone wanted him played in the team when richo wasn't in there. Guess what, same result he did nothing.
Everyone wanted him played in the forward line. Aah yep once again same result. Nothing.
He is the most useless footballer we have had on our list. The only thing that seperates him from JON is his ex girlfriend was Hamish Mcintosh current mrs and for that he should get a tap on the back.
Hardwick still is soft in my eyes till he gets rid of this fool, along with the 3rd amigo in Mclovin.
He's mentioned in the first line :rollinMe = Doh! lol :wallywink
A reasonably detailed write-up on Dustin Martin out of interest
http://www.contestedfooty.com/2009/09/dustin-martin-2009-afl-draft-prospect.html
Midfielder, 26/6/1991, 187cm, 86kg ... from Bendigo
Video highlights from U18 Champs:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTjp4ROxszk&stuff&feature=player_embedded[/url)
Ive always wondered why Rob Wiley has never really been used by our club. Recruiting in the WA could have been something that he could have done and been paid for. Especially considering the rubbish recruiting that took place over many years. Why doesnt our club use professional people like Wiley. Hes a Richmond Premiership Player and he should be given a role.Played for West Coast as well IIRC and basically has never left them since. The Eagles have always had loads of dough to spend on off-field staff compared to Richmond who until recently have had none :P.
The Dockers have fourth pick in next month's national draft and have targeted brilliant on-baller Anthony Morabito, 17, as their first choice.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/fremantle-draft-picks-off-limits/story-e6frf9io-1225772200283
Im not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but i thought this was interesting for us, mentioned in Craig Hutchison's sectioned in the Sunday Herald Sun, 13/09/09That's not good news for us! Scully and Trengrove are the clear standouts. We are drafting a midfielder with our first pick, so i guess we will take the next best. I just hope we draft a midfielder that has played midfield all his junior days not some kid that plays in the midfield sometimes, on the wing other times and sometimes up forward. What i'm trying to say is i don't want some utility type.
South Australian Jackson Trengrove has emerged as the youngster most likely to join Tom Scully at Melbourne. The Demons are leaning towards taking two midfielders with their first tow picks in the draft despite their obivious forward-line needs. They will opt for the best player, rather than best needed-player.
We are drafting a midfielder with our first pick, so i guess we will take the next best. I just hope we draft a midfielder that has played midfield all his junior days not some kid that plays in the midfield sometimes, on the wing other times and sometimes up forward. What i'm trying to say is i don't want some utility type.Is that confirmed we are taking a midfielder with out first pick? Our first pick should be used on the best available kid at our pick.
Something else i heard is if we had pick 1 we would take Tengrove over Scully. Thats how high we rate Trengrove.
Fingers crossed people, let hope Melbourne go for Butcher with their second pick. :pray
Butcher ?Im not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but i thought this was interesting for us, mentioned in Craig Hutchison's sectioned in the Sunday Herald Sun, 13/09/09That's not good news for us! Scully and Trengrove are the clear standouts. We are drafting a midfielder with our first pick, so i guess we will take the next best. I just hope we draft a midfielder that has played midfield all his junior days not some kid that plays in the midfield sometimes, on the wing other times and sometimes up forward. What i'm trying to say is i don't want some utility type.
South Australian Jackson Trengrove has emerged as the youngster most likely to join Tom Scully at Melbourne. The Demons are leaning towards taking two midfielders with their first tow picks in the draft despite their obivious forward-line needs. They will opt for the best player, rather than best needed-player.
Something else i heard is if we had pick 1 we would take Tengrove over Scully. Thats how high we rate Trengrove.
Fingers crossed people, let hope Melbourne go for Butcher with their second pick. :pray
Midfielder Tom Scully is the unbackable favourite to be this season's No. 1 pick and talent scouts suggest there are between 10 and 15 other quality players before the pickings become slim. They are predominantly midfielders.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26066734-10389,00.html
Midfielder Tom Scully is the unbackable favourite to be this season's No. 1 pick and talent scouts suggest there are between 10 and 15 other quality players before the pickings become slim. They are predominantly midfielders.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26066734-10389,00.html
If I was Melbourne, i'd take Scully at 2.
Just to be different. :rollin
Midfielder Tom Scully is the unbackable favourite to be this season's No. 1 pick and talent scouts suggest there are between 10 and 15 other quality players before the pickings become slim. They are predominantly midfielders.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26066734-10389,00.html
If I was Melbourne, i'd take Scully at 2.
Just to be different. :rollin
yes and we too could have had another to choose from if it werent for silly decisions like the porn star look kicking that goal.
how people would rather take a win that "MEANS NOTHING" against a tanking side, over one of those kids is beyond me
Dees will play finals before us because of the smart direction they have taken
i was thinking that a KPP is a lot harder to come by than an elite midfielder... so if butcher is there, probably should take him. but if trengrove slips to us i wouldnt be upset...I agree cranny. We're likely to finish down the bottom next year so it won't be hard to find a gun mid even with GC17 having most of the early picks. If the choice this year comes down to a gun KPP or gun Mid you go with the KPP. A strong spine is crucial to eventually becomng a top side.
Anyone leaning towards Dustin Martin @ pick #3 if Trengove is gone?
Anthony Morabito
Butcher?
John Butcher may be lining up for Maffra tomorrow in the WGLFL Grand Final.
It's not confirmed, just a local paper rumour at this stage.
Gippsland Power are out of the finals, so there is a good chance it could happen.
I think I agree camboon.
Dustin is absolute quality as is Trengove and even Cunnington or even smokies Tapscott or Lucas wouldn't look out of place at pick 3.
I think with the way the Draft is going finding a Key position player in the top 10 will be very very difficult, knowing that GC nd WS will be after them at all costs, you'd have to give up something big to get a top 5 pick to snatch a possible gun Key Forward.
If Dees take Scully Trengove then I think we have to take Butcher.
If Dees take Scully Butcher then I think it's our decision to pick Trengove or Martin.
I may be wrong in a few years but Morebitto has a bit of Keplar Bradley about him. His 2008 carnival wasn't awesome as a bottom age but improved dramatically for 2009 and full credit to him. I'm leaning towards that his next phase of improvement may be a while off since he took such a big jump in 12 months. Maybe not a top 3 pick.
Nick Riewoldt played well tonightI don't reckon he'll be there at our pick 3 Bents :wallywink
Butcher kicked a goal for Maffra and was named in their best players. Maffra won by 3 points although they kicked 7.27-69 :o. Did you see the game wayne?
They may go for Scully & Morabito given they are different types of players, Scully & Trengove may be too similar in style
They may go for Scully & Morabito given they are different types of players, Scully & Trengove may be too similar in styleThe dees will build a solid team around those mids.
Their forward line still has the likes of Watts, Newton(although dud), Green, Miller, Silvia and Jamar so unfortunately i think we have no chance of getting Trengrove.
rumour or fact, who knows
Brock McLean to the Blues for Pick 11
rumour or fact, who knows
Brock McLean to the Blues for Pick 11
Not rumour or fact just plain BS.
:thumbsup
rumour or fact, who knows
Brock McLean to the Blues for Pick 11
Not rumour or fact just plain BS.
:thumbsup
its all over SEN pal.
as i said take it with a grain of salt because it is SEN
Nick Stevens told he is no longer required. No Surprises there
rumour or fact, who knows
Brock McLean to the Blues for Pick 11
Not rumour or fact just plain BS.
:thumbsup
its all over SEN pal.
as i said take it with a grain of salt because it is SEN
Nick Stevens told he is no longer required. No Surprises there
Check the AFL website guys, its official.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85230/default.aspx (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85230/default.aspx)
However, it's also worth noting that McLean requested the trade, it wasn't Melbourne's choice.
Apparently not overly impressed by the tanking shannanigans going on this year.
Let's just say he is of the breed that competes to win......always.
And didn't see eye to eye with a certain Dean Bailey.
This after giving 10 K from his own wallet for the debt demolition too. ::)
A little hypocritical in going to Carlton thenHowever, it's also worth noting that McLean requested the trade, it wasn't Melbourne's choice.
;)
Apparently not overly impressed by the tanking shannanigans going on this year.
Let's just say he is of the breed that competes to win......always.
And didn't see eye to eye with a certain Dean Bailey.
This after giving 10 K from his own wallet for the debt demolition too. ::)
I reckon carlton are brilliant in targetting needs and solving them...I firmly believe they are on track to have a real crack at the premiership next season
I reckon carlton are brilliant in targetting needs and solving them...I firmly believe they are on track to have a real crack at the premiership next season
I reckon carlton are brilliant in targetting needs and solving them...I firmly believe they are on track to have a real crack at the premiership next season
The Blues are one descent forward away from a flag within 3 years and that is a effin kick in the guts because we were on par with those pricks a few years ago.
Could you imagine if they had Josh Kennedy in their team.
I reckon carlton are brilliant in targetting needs and solving them...I firmly believe they are on track to have a real crack at the premiership next season
The Blues are one descent forward away from a flag within 3 years and that is a effin kick in the guts because we were on par with those pricks a few years ago.
Could you imagine if they had Josh Kennedy in their team.
I reckon carlton are brilliant in targetting needs and solving them...I firmly believe they are on track to have a real crack at the premiership next season
The Blues are one descent forward away from a flag within 3 years and that is a effin kick in the guts because we were on par with those pricks a few years ago.
Could you imagine if they had Josh Kennedy in their team.
Their defense still leaks goals as well.
Their midfield is prime, but the rest is still very much in development.
They're in a far better position than us but in 3 years time Fevola will be past it. And then what?? It's a major issue for them.
Furthermore the Scum are short in the ruck as well trading for Warnock
nice one TFL.Take it from me Daniel, we are taking a mid with our first pick regardless, weather Scully and Trengrove are gone. If that's not from the horses mouth it's from his jockey. :thumbsup
BS is it 65. no worries :thumbsup
this will all but rule out any hope we have of getting Trengrove. No chance now.
They will take 2 mids and use Pick 11 on a tall forward.
Butcher is ours people
nice one TFL.Take it from me Daniel, we are taking a mid with our first pick regardless, weather Scully and Trengrove are gone. If that's not from the horses mouth it's from his jockey. :thumbsup
BS is it 65. no worries :thumbsup
this will all but rule out any hope we have of getting Trengrove. No chance now.
They will take 2 mids and use Pick 11 on a tall forward.
Butcher is ours people
If any club is prepared to part with players deemed to have "currency" then you can get decent picksSaid it before and I totally agree with you WP on trading Foley, he is a B grade midfielder and more than likely always will- trade him now while we could potentially get a 10 years A grade mid with his draft pick.
I still reckon we could have got a first rounder for one of our better players (I was nominating Foley previously) from a Sydney or Carlton
The opportunity is still there I suppose, it depneds on what we are prepared to give up
I cannot see Tuck getting us a late 1st round pick unfortunately
Take it from me Daniel, we are taking a mid with our first pick regardless, weather Scully and Trengrove are gone. If that's not from the horses mouth it's from his jockey. :thumbsup
Just watching a bit of Carlisle on youtube and if he is available for us at pick 19 I will be completely bamboozled. This kid will be picked up in the first round, probably by a team like the Cats or Saints.
However, it's also worth noting that McLean requested the trade, it wasn't Melbourne's choice.
;)
Apparently not overly impressed by the tanking shannanigans going on this year.
Let's just say he is of the breed that competes to win......always.
Listening to SEN driving home they said that Scully wont be playing in the TAC Cup final
Injured his knee last week, had an MRI and wont play - didn't say how serious it was
A draft pick is still going to take 4 years to get to the level required to become a full time player.
McLean is only 22 years old and a previous #5 draft pick, they're trading away 6 years development for 6 places in the draft less than what the player was taken with originally. It will take Melbourne until 2013-2014 before they find out if they are ahead of the trade or not.
However, it's also worth noting that McLean requested the trade, it wasn't Melbourne's choice.
Melbourne made a decision of the type that we havent made in years. There first 2 picks will be Scully and Trengove, they will then take a Key Position at 11. We will take a mid (3rd best) with our first pick and a key forward (probably again 2 or 3rd best). Melbourne have worked this beautifully.
If Melbourne get:
1 - Scully
2 - Trengrove
11 - Butcher
18 - 3rd mid / 2nd tall
Foley and Newman perhaps.
Foley and Newman perhaps.
Has a captain ever been traded?
Jeff Hogg.
Has a captain ever been traded?
Listening to SEN driving home they said that Scully wont be playing in the TAC Cup final
Injured his knee last week, had an MRI and wont play - didn't say how serious it was
If it is a serious injury this might open up the draft somewhat?
There is no precedent that says he shouldn't. Furthermore would be a huge call by Dimma and the club and would put the whole list on notice that nobody is guaranteed anything in this new era. I think it would be very brave decision by the footy dept and I would applaud it. Nothing against Newman but he was not much of a leader and it's time we put the club first rather than think what if we lose this. Be brave Tigers.
Jeff Hogg.
Has a captain ever been traded?
For Paul Broderick, Michael Gale and Matthew DundasJeff Hogg.
Has a captain ever been traded?
Good get.
They might fall on their sword like we did after 95!!! We can only hope eh!!:pray
They might fall on their sword like we did after 95!!! We can only hope eh!!:pray
Yep crash out in a prelim or two then fall away again :pray
The Blues obviously believe their window is open now. They've traded away most of their future in this and the last 2 drafts. If they don't win a flag in the next 5 years while Fev and Judd are around it could come back to bite them big time from a list management point of view.I know Judd is a great player, but Carlton would be a far better side with Kennedy, Masten, Notte/Pears & Rich in their side than just with Judd & Yarran.
2007 - Traded away Josh Kennedy and picks 3 and 20.
2008 - Traded away pick 24. Overlooked Rich for Yarran at pick 6 (thank god)
IMONow maybe, probably not in 2 years
Judd >>> picks #3 / #19 / Kennedy
Now maybe, probably not in 2 years
Problem is the rest of the Blues kids will be matured and ready to lead the team in 2 years, Judd will be in the twilight of his career then
The Blues ...traded away most of their future in this and the last 2 drafts.
2007 - Traded away Josh Kennedy and picks 3 and 20.
2008 - Traded away pick 24. Overlooked Rich for Yarran at pick 6 (thank god)
2009 - Traded away pick 11 and possibly pick 27 will be traded away as well.
McLean is a gain but they lose Stevens and Hadley from their midfield.
IMONow maybe, probably not in 2 years
Judd >>> picks #3 / #19 / Kennedy
Problem is the rest of the Blues kids will be matured and ready to lead the team in 2 years, Judd will be in the twilight of his career then
At 28 Judd could still have 6 years left in him.
More so, his leadership for the like of Gibbs & Murphy is worth a lot.
As Cousins is for our guys for another year or two yet.Difference is, we didn't give away a #4 pick kpp forward plus #3 & #19 picks for it
No probs disagreeing Con :). Discussion is what a forum is about and it'd be pretty dull if everyone agreed on everything.The Blues ...traded away most of their future in this and the last 2 drafts.
2007 - Traded away Josh Kennedy and picks 3 and 20.
2008 - Traded away pick 24. Overlooked Rich for Yarran at pick 6 (thank god)
2009 - Traded away pick 11 and possibly pick 27 will be traded away as well.
McLean is a gain but they lose Stevens and Hadley from their midfield.
MT, I usually agree with your posts but cant this time. trading away most of their future?? that is too big a call and IMHO not factually correct...
In 2007 and 2008 they still had picks inside the top 10 - Kruez #1 and Yarran #6 - Yarran was a judgment call but they werent the only ones that overlooked Rich...so too did the 5 clubs above the blues...Also the trade for #24 was for a 21 yo Ruckman - hardly losing your stuff got injured but if he gets himself right, will give the blues many years of service....
As for trading picks 3 and 20 etc...that was for a 25 yo gun called Judd....who is giving to them what cousin did for us this season - on field leadership...they will get at least 5 to 7 years out of Judd...already have 2 years in the bank...so only need another 3 to 5 out of him...hardly trading away your future...in my view...they invested in their future by getting Judd....
Sorry to disagree...but I simply dont see it your way....
I am leaning towards John Butcher.so dose morton ... he is better than Reiwoldt we all know that :thumbsup
Reiwoldt vs. the Doggies
Hawkins vs. Collingwood
make it hard to go past him.
Reiwoldt needs a friend!
I am leaning towards John Butcher.so dose morton ... he is better than Reiwoldt we all know that :thumbsup
Reiwoldt vs. the Doggies
Hawkins vs. Collingwood
make it hard to go past him.
Reiwoldt needs a friend!
Really wanted Trengove at the club, spewing the Dees will get him.Yep we won't get him now. Trengove will become one of the best mids to come out of SA.
Really wanted Trengove at the club, spewing the Dees will get him.Yep we won't get him now. Trengove will become one of the best mids to come out of SA.
Really wanted Trengove at the club, spewing the Dees will get him.Yep we won't get him now. Trengove will become one of the best mids to come out of SA.
They said the same thing about Aaron Fiora when he dominated the SANFL GF for Port Adelaide all those years ago.
NOTHING IS FOR CERTAIN!
Nigel Carmody on SEN talking about the draft
Richmond a quite keen on Dustin Martin. Strong body, ready to go, inside top 10, top 5 no doubt. Good kick not only accuracy but range also. Pick 4-5.
http://www.afldraftinfo.com/2009/08/dustin-martin-bendigo-pioneersvic.html
We have a need at the RFC and i dont care about performance at TAC Level.
If Trengrove is not available we must choose Butcher. The Kid can play. needs to work on his kicking but so what. Look at Buddy, Nick R, Richo and even Stuey Lowe back in the day
If Trengrove is not available we must choose Butcher. The Kid can play. needs to work on his kicking but so what. Look at Buddy, Nick R, Richo and even Stuey Lowe back in the dayOf those 4 only 1 has won a flag and that was a fluke
Not the most reliable kicks for goal but all 4 are superstars.
If Trengrove is not available we must choose Butcher. The Kid can play. needs to work on his kicking but so what. Look at Buddy, Nick R, Richo and even Stuey Lowe back in the dayOf those 4 only 1 has won a flag and that was a fluke
Not the most reliable kicks for goal but all 4 are superstars.
Geelong & West Coast have proved that you can win a flag (or two) with an average forward line but a gun midfield.
I'd like to have both, but if the best kpp has such massive deficiencies in the most important skill a footballer can have, then I'd probably rather take a chance on another tall in the start of the 2nd round that also has deficiencies to make them fall to the 2nd round, but doesn't carry the risk of a bust at Pick 3.
3 Votes: Jordan Mcmahon
Thanks Pal :thumbsup
not only does he lose games for us but even when he wins games for us he screws us over
3 Votes: Jordan Mcmahon
Thanks Pal :thumbsup
not only does he lose games for us but even when he wins games for us he screws us over
Tanking cost Melb Brock Mclean.
How would you have felt if we had tanked and Brett Delidio walked out on us?
:thumbsup
3 Votes: Jordan Mcmahon
Thanks Pal :thumbsup
not only does he lose games for us but even when he wins games for us he screws us over
Tanking cost Melb Brock Mclean.
How would you have felt if we had tanked and Brett Delidio walked out on us?
:thumbsup
That rumour is up there with Hardwick not getting the job at Essendon because his computer failed him.
Prove that was his reason for walking out on the Dees. Did he actually say that??
If its true as you say he left because of the tanking that went on, then why on earth would he join a club called CARLTON who are the biggest culprits
Does not make sense at all.
Dustin Martin or Anthony Morabito?
:)
Pick 3 must be Butcher if Trengove is gone which will ahppen if Melb get pick 11 as they will get a good tall with that pick.
At 19 I think we should go either Bastanic, Christensen, Hooper, Luke Thomson, Gysberts
Hopefully we will have traded into the 2nd round for Tuck and get 2 of the 5 players listed above.
i dont get it, how is our need for a KPP not more acute than another midfielder...would be a crazy line of thought :o
i dont get it, how is our need for a KPP not more acute than another midfielder...would be a crazy line of thought :o
Well youv'e got to have a midfield that can get the ball to the KPP first and we don't have that yet. With Tuck and Brown going we need more flexability there.
I said it in another post and I will say it again, I am backing Martin in over Butcher, Martin is ready to go and thats what we need. We don't need more developing players that will amount to nothing like Putt, Patto, JON, Hughes, etc...... at least Martin has shown his skill level and hardness at the ball is better than Butchers and he could play round one.... :thumbsup
i dont get it, how is our need for a KPP not more acute than another midfielder...would be a crazy line of thought :o
Well youv'e got to have a midfield that can get the ball to the KPP first and we don't have that yet. With Tuck and Brown going we need more flexability there.
I said it in another post and I will say it again, I am backing Martin in over Butcher, Martin is ready to go and thats what we need. We don't need more developing players that will amount to nothing like Putt, Patto, JON, Hughes, etc...... at least Martin has shown his skill level and hardness at the ball is better than Butchers and he could play round one.... :thumbsup
question
can he use both side of his body and i dont mean the odd kick on his left here or there.
we need to find a player who kick with both sides.
sick to death of these one trick pony's
Dustin Martin is one of, if not THE best disposer by foot in the U18. Truly both sided, is a pure centreman and now proven to be very fast as well.i dont get it, how is our need for a KPP not more acute than another midfielder...would be a crazy line of thought :o
Well youv'e got to have a midfield that can get the ball to the KPP first and we don't have that yet. With Tuck and Brown going we need more flexability there.
I said it in another post and I will say it again, I am backing Martin in over Butcher, Martin is ready to go and thats what we need. We don't need more developing players that will amount to nothing like Putt, Patto, JON, Hughes, etc...... at least Martin has shown his skill level and hardness at the ball is better than Butchers and he could play round one.... :thumbsup
question
can he use both side of his body and i dont mean the odd kick on his left here or there.
we need to find a player who kick with both sides.
sick to death of these one trick pony's
Dustin Martin is one of, if not THE best disposer by foot in the U18. Truly both sided, is a pure centreman and now proven to be very fast as well.i dont get it, how is our need for a KPP not more acute than another midfielder...would be a crazy line of thought :o
Well youv'e got to have a midfield that can get the ball to the KPP first and we don't have that yet. With Tuck and Brown going we need more flexability there.
I said it in another post and I will say it again, I am backing Martin in over Butcher, Martin is ready to go and thats what we need. We don't need more developing players that will amount to nothing like Putt, Patto, JON, Hughes, etc...... at least Martin has shown his skill level and hardness at the ball is better than Butchers and he could play round one.... :thumbsup
question
can he use both side of his body and i dont mean the odd kick on his left here or there.
we need to find a player who kick with both sides.
sick to death of these one trick pony's
Will be very disappointed if we don't take him
With hard-bodied, inside midfielders back in vogue in the AFL, the no-frills Ben Cunnington, 18, has become a recruiters' favourite.
Richmond (No. 3) and North Melbourne (No. 5) have their eyes on him in next month's national draft.
Falcons regional manager Michael Turner rates Cunnington as "the most professional player I have seen in 15 years of TAC Cup".
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-cunnington-set-to-make-big-impact-in-national-draft/story-e6frf9jf-1225781343235
Gary Rohan has topped the kicking efficiency with 77% or 23/30.
Next best on 22/30 were Martin, Gysberts, Harwood, Potts, Black, Panos and Winmar
On 21/30, Astbury and Harms
http://twitter.com/emmasq
I've been hearing that Melbourne are far from locked in on Scully and Trengove.
They'd like a KPP.
I've been hearing that Melbourne are far from locked in on Scully and Trengove.
They'd like a KPP.
I've been hearing that Melbourne are far from locked in on Scully and Trengove.
They'd like a KPP.
where have you heard this?
:)
Dustin Martin Pick 3, lock it in.
With high draft picks you just go sure things, no point gambling at this stage. Butcher could be a star but could be a flop. Martin is 200 game player will be in best 22 by his 2nd year onwards. Butcher could be another Jay Schultz.
We aren't in a position to take risks.
Tom Harms is firming for a top 30 selection, I've had my eye on him since the carnival. Will be this years Liam Anthony mark my words, just kicks the ball beautifully he makes the ball glide, not many players can do that. Very similar to Daniel Rich's lock pin point stabs.
The Herald-Sun has Butcher falling outside the top 10 to the Bulldogs' pick 15....
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/bulldogs-face-big-call/story-e6frf9if-1225781845755
not choosing this kid will come back to bite us.
we have a big need at the moment and thats a key forward
he hasnt had the best lead up but so what neither did Buddy or Rich and thats why they slid.
we must take him at all costs IMO
not choosing this kid will come back to bite us.
we have a big need at the moment and thats a key forward
he hasnt had the best lead up but so what neither did Buddy or Rich and thats why they slid.
we must take him at all costs IMO
But he cant kick, apparently reading around the sites he has been like that for over 2 years and doesn't look like changing. Why would you take him over someone like Martin who can kick either side very accurately, kick goals, is a midfielder who goes forward and plays out of the backline???????????????????? We don't need anymore unskilled players.
The Herald-Sun has Butcher falling outside the top 10 to the Bulldogs' pick 15....
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/bulldogs-face-big-call/story-e6frf9if-1225781845755
Sorry about the last post but I am using the iPhone. Looks like he doesn't even have faith in his kicking. Get Martin for Gods sake!!!!!
Sorry about the last post but I am using the iPhone. Looks like he doesn't even have faith in his kicking. Get Martin for Gods sake!!!!!
Work want to upgrade my Palm Treo to an iPhone.
How do you find yours?
Bastinac and Cowan are really helping there cause with some of these results.
Q. Has there been any talk about John Butcher's kicking action in football circles?A bit more from Emma on Butcher:
Emma Quayle: Yep, people have different opinions, some think its a problem, others think they could fix it. He'll work hard to improve.
http://twitter.com/emmasq
I think it will be Martin for pick #3.
No brainer unless Scully or Trengove are still at #3....
A snippet from the West Australian....
Fremantle have the fourth pick in the draft and will take Peel's Anthony Morabito if he isn't snared with the third selection by Richmond.
The Tigers are keen on the Thunder teenager, but have to weigh up whether to select the WA product or go home-grown and secure exciting Geelong Falcons teenager Gary Rohan.
Melbourne are expected to select Victorian Tom Scully and South Australian Jack Trengove with the first two picks.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/eagles/6136470/eagle-eye-on-wa-trio/
for sure. martin is the one.
We need a key position player. Really need to orchestrate some deal to get a pick earlier than 19. Maybe put up pick 19 and a player to move up the order if possible.It's also a case of what quality is available at pick 19. There should be a KPP around but whoever it is may be the 4th or 5th best tall. We did the same with Cleve in 2005 when we wanted a KPP but having taken a small (JON) with our first pick we took the tall with our second pick.
pick 19, Edwards can get us what exactly? How far up the draft order could that get us?Probably no higher. First round picks are like gold this year and with the guns put on the trade table an Edwards would not get a look at inside the top 25 at least. He might help if we wanted to push pick 35 higher but not pick 19 IMO. Also I'm not a fan of 2 for 1 trades even if we were to get a few spots higher because Edwards' spot on our list would need to be filled and without a replacement trade pick for him then his spot gets filled by a kid taken very late in the draft who mostly likely will be no better if not a worse footballer.
Hypothetical
What are the rights of the draftees?
Especially the top 10 are they in a position to say to a club, "look i would prefer not to play for you i want to play with so and so"?
I only say this because Tom Scully follows the tigers and if he has for his whole life wouldnt that be a dream of his to play for that side?
wishful thinking no doubt but i thought it might be a consideration, or at least an angle the recruitment staff could play in the wooing of certain draftees...
We need a key position player. Really need to orchestrate some deal to get a pick earlier than 19. Maybe put up pick 19 and a player to move up the order if possible.It's also a case of what quality is available at pick 19. There should be a KPP around but whoever it is may be the 4th or 5th best tall. We did the same with Cleve in 2005 when we wanted a KPP but having taken a small (JON) with our first pick we took the tall with our second pick.
Anyway maybe we can get talls with our 2nd and 3rd picks?
1. Melb - Trengove
2. Melb - Scully
3. Rich - Martin
4. Freo - Morabito
-------------------------- 99% known
5. Nth - Cunnington
6. Syd - Tapscott
7. WCE - Jetta
8. Port - Rohan
9. Port - Butcher
10. Ess - Lucas
11. Melb - Talia
12. Bris - Stevens
13. Adel - Panos
14. WB - Black
15. Coll - Carlisle
16. St K - Duncan
17. Geel - Christensen
18. Melb - Gysberts
19. Rich - Griffiths?
20. Freo - Sheppard
21. Nth - Melksham
22. Syd - Bastinac
23. WCE - Winmar
24. Port - stuff
25. Nth - Moore
26. Ess - Carey
27. Carl - Vardy
28. Bris - Chricton
29. Adel - Coyler
30. Coll - Hartigan
31. WB - Harwood
32. St K - Ah Chee
33. Geel - Craig
34. Melb - Gawn
35. Rich - Astbury/Houghton?
A snippet from the West Australian....
Fremantle have the fourth pick in the draft and will take Peel's Anthony Morabito if he isn't snared with the third selection by Richmond.
The Tigers are keen on the Thunder teenager, but have to weigh up whether to select the WA product or go home-grown and secure exciting Geelong Falcons teenager Gary Rohan.
Melbourne are expected to select Victorian Tom Scully and South Australian Jack Trengove with the first two picks.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/eagles/6136470/eagle-eye-on-wa-trio/
please no!
Dustin Martin!
:)
Sorry about the last post but I am using the iPhone. Looks like he doesn't even have faith in his kicking. Get Martin for Gods sake!!!!!
Work want to upgrade my Palm Treo to an iPhone.
How do you find yours?
Really love It mate best phone I have ever had. Sorry to derail thread mods!! :)
Sorry about the last post but I am using the iPhone. Looks like he doesn't even have faith in his kicking. Get Martin for Gods sake!!!!!
Work want to upgrade my Palm Treo to an iPhone.
How do you find yours?
Really love It mate best phone I have ever had. Sorry to derail thread mods!! :)
Just got the iPhone.
It truly is a brilliant piece of technology.
:thumbsup
how many rounds are in the draft?
five?
:)
Twice the distance from the middle to the end ;)how many rounds are in the draft?
five?
:)
How longs a piece of string? ;)
Sydney yesterday attempted to get its hands on Richmond's pick No. 3 - and midfielder Dustin Martin - by offering its first two choices in the upcoming draft, numbers six and 14, to the Tigers. The idea was swiftly knocked back by Richmond, which is believed to be keen on the Bendigo onballer.
Sydney yesterday attempted to get its hands on Richmond's pick No. 3 - and midfielder Dustin Martin - by offering its first two choices in the upcoming draft, numbers six and 14, to the Tigers. The idea was swiftly knocked back by Richmond, which is believed to be keen on the Bendigo onballer.
So,we have 3, 19, 35, 44, 51, 67, 72, 83 + PSD 2. Is that right?
Maybe we are intending to use 7 ND and the PSD pick.
| 1 191 3 109.4 100 2 188 5 91.6 100 3 178 22 88.7 90 4 213 1 68.1 80 5 203 1 80.6 80 6 94 2 39 80 7 117 1 58.1 80 8 199 6 60 80 9 113 0 39.3 70 10 151 0 59.7 80 11 188 10 56.4 80 12 157 0 58.3 90 13 168 0 92.1 100 14 149 0 45.7 70 15 116 0 38.8 70 16 155 0 53.9 80 17 147 0 30.4 60 18 166 0 44 70 19 198 0 64.9 80 20 184 0 59.9 80 21 124 0 40.9 60 22 102 0 24.6 60 23 176 10 40.9 70 24 161 13 66.9 90 25 92 3 31.9 40 26 90 1 32 50 27 119 0 28.3 70 28 172 0 30 60 29 151 1 57.8 80 30 184 0 49.2 70 |
Now that the trading is done I thought it would be interesting to have a look at some stats to do with draft picks in recent years. Here is a table with the top 30 draft picks over the last 10 years showing each pick, the highest games played for that pick, the lowest games played for that pick, the average games played for that pick and the percentage of that pick still currently playing:Is that why the Swans wanted to offload pick 6 lol. Geez for such a high pick it has a fairly lame record. You would've thought pick 7 would have better stats based on who has been selected in recent years. Pick 13 is a lucky number statistically. We got Jack with that pick. The rest seems fairly random.
1 191 3 109.4 100
2 188 5 91.6 100
3 178 22 88.7 90
4 213 1 68.1 80
5 203 1 80.6 80
6 94 2 39 80
7 117 1 58.1 80
8 199 6 60 80
9 113 0 39.3 70
10 151 0 59.7 80
11 188 10 56.4 80
12 157 0 58.3 90
13 168 0 92.1 100
14 149 0 45.7 70
15 116 0 38.8 70
16 155 0 53.9 80
17 147 0 30.4 60
18 166 0 44 70
19 198 0 64.9 80
20 184 0 59.9 80
21 124 0 40.9 60
22 102 0 24.6 60
23 176 10 40.9 70
24 161 13 66.9 90
25 92 3 31.9 40
26 90 1 32 50
27 119 0 28.3 70
28 172 0 30 60
29 151 1 57.8 80
30 184 0 49.2 70
So, is this year's draft really as bad as everyone has been saying?Good for us if the draft only goes to 50. It means, as said in the other thread, our later picks will be pushed up the draft order :pray.
''Yes'', was how one recruiting manager answered that question. ''It's mediocre,'' said another, and that seems a popular line of thinking. Each draft has ''layers'' of talent, and the very top layer this year is a small one. Where last year there were, say, 15 players any recruiter would have happily picked, this year some are nominating as few as four. Others say it's more like six, eight or 10. What happens? The consensus is, it evens out quickly, that you don't really want to be picking after 50 and that there are fewer certain prospects. ''It flatlines after 10,'' said a recruiter. ''That doesn't mean there aren't any reasonable players there, but there aren't any absolute guarantees, and everyone's list will be different. Someone's No. 11 will be someone else's 30.'' Said another: ''After 10, you could throw a blanket over 30 of them.'' Because the group is considered so even, this may be a draft where ''needs'' come into play with picks as early as the teens.
This draft could see a really low number of players chosen, and it's hard to see anyone taking more than their mandatory three picks [aside from perhaps Melbourne, Essendon, Fremantle and Richmond, the first two having loaded up with top 30 picks] and possibly Geelong, which needs to bring in kids. For the first time this season, clubs can use one of those three picks to upgrade a rookie, and I suspect quite a few will take this option. We could only have 50-something fresh players drafted.
One of the most interesting thing out of the Age article was thisAgree WP. You don't give up a top 3 pick.
"That Sydney offered Richmond draft picks six and 14 for No. 3, but didn't make Fremantle the same offer, tells us something."
Clearly Sydney want that Morabito kid and know Freo want him too
Kudos to Richmond for keeping pick 3 if it is going to guarantee them the player they want.
Although it would have been nice to have 2 first round picks I think the risk of losing pick 3 was there wasn't a guarantee the player we want will still be there at pick 6... :clapping
One of the most interesting thing out of the Age article was thisAgree WP. You don't give up a top 3 pick.
"That Sydney offered Richmond draft picks six and 14 for No. 3, but didn't make Fremantle the same offer, tells us something."
Clearly Sydney want that Morabito kid and know Freo want him too
Kudos to Richmond for keeping pick 3 if it is going to guarantee them the player they want.
Although it would have been nice to have 2 first round picks I think the risk of losing pick 3 was there wasn't a guarantee the player we want will still be there at pick 6... :clapping
I took Sydney offering us that deal and not Freo as meaning they wanted Martin. If they wanted Morabito then they could have offered Freo the swap knowing Scully, Trengove and Martin were going top 3.
I see it the other way too WP, word is they want Martin. Certainly fits their type of player too.One of the most interesting thing out of the Age article was thisAgree WP. You don't give up a top 3 pick.
"That Sydney offered Richmond draft picks six and 14 for No. 3, but didn't make Fremantle the same offer, tells us something."
Clearly Sydney want that Morabito kid and know Freo want him too
Kudos to Richmond for keeping pick 3 if it is going to guarantee them the player they want.
Although it would have been nice to have 2 first round picks I think the risk of losing pick 3 was there wasn't a guarantee the player we want will still be there at pick 6... :clapping
I took Sydney offering us that deal and not Freo as meaning they wanted Martin. If they wanted Morabito then they could have offered Freo the swap knowing Scully, Trengove and Martin were going top 3.
I took it to mean that Sydney are concerend we might take Morabito and if we didn't then Freo would
One of the most interesting thing out of the Age article was this
"That Sydney offered Richmond draft picks six and 14 for No. 3, but didn't make Fremantle the same offer, tells us something."
Clearly Sydney want that Morabito kid and know Freo want him too
"That Sydney offered Richmond draft picks six and 14 for No. 3, but didn't make Fremantle the same offer, tells us something."
Clearly Sydney want that Morabito kid and know Freo want him too
Emma Quayle's potential first rounders (not in order). This might give us an idea who will be left around pick 19.
Tom Scully
Jack Trengove
Dustin Martin
Anthony Morabito
Ben Cunnington
John Butcher
Jake Carlisle
Daniel Talia
Gary Rohan
Jake Melksham
Kane Lucas
Jordan Gysberts
Luke Tapscott
Lewis Jetta
Andrew Moore
Troy Taylor
http://twitter.com/emmasq
Why would you think Sydney wanted Morabito, not Martin?
would it surprise anyone if Scully/Trengove aren't No.1 and No.2 taken?
:)
Port offered pick #8 + #9 for pick #2 ..
Here are some results from the W.A. state screening ......Has anyone here seen enough of Houghton to say he'd be someone we'd look at at say pick 35? Is he someone who has some natural footy ability or is he another Gourdis (an athlete instead of a footballer)?
Height
2. Joel Houghton 194.3cm
Agility run
5. Joel Houghton 8.53 sec
20m Shuttle Run
1. Joel Houghton 15.1
JUST ON SEN THEY SAID MELBOURNE WILL PROB SKIP SCULLY AND TAKE NEXT BEST THING BECAUSE HES KNEE PROB IS WORSE THAN FIRST THOUGHT.
JUST ON SEN THEY SAID MELBOURNE WILL PROB SKIP SCULLY AND TAKE NEXT BEST THING BECAUSE HES KNEE PROB IS WORSE THAN FIRST THOUGHT.
Emma Quayle Talks All Things Drafts
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/blog.php?b=783
She has Martin going to Richmond.
She also says due to uneven distribution of drafts picks amongst the clubs ater trade week that we may be one club that may select a player earlier than he is expected to go at (presumably with our pick 19). We did the same thing last year with Postie at pick 26.
Tom Harms is a superstar!!
Must get him with one of our late round picks!@!!@
Wow, just watched some footage of Majak Daw. I cant watch the footage on the AFL website, so I don't know what it shows, but the Youtube clip is pretty impressive.Emma Quayle on her twitter page reckons Daw will go late or as a rookie. Interesting to see with all our late picks if we have any interest in him and take a gamble. You'd assume he's more an athlete rather than a natural footballer (footskills, reading of the game?) but being relatively new to the game can those footy skills be developed. That'd be the question to answer. High risk but for high gain.
Sometimes you see an athlete that just has that something special, and this kid is a rough diamond. He just glides across the ground... at pace. He can jump, take a grab and his tap work and kicking for a bloke that has only been playing the game for 4 years puts to shame some who have been playing the game for 25 years.
There is something about this bloke like Nic Naitanui and I'm not talking about the color of their skin, but that something that says, if they can actually make it at the top level, then they will probably be something special.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZYr4YqzYK0
You'd assume he's more an athlete rather than a natural footballer (footskills, reading of the game?) but being relatively new to the game can those footy skills be developed. That'd be the question to answer. High risk but for high gain.
The Dockers could drop a bombshell at this month's national draft and overlook local Anthony Morabito.
Dockers football staff are believed to be weighing up whether to pluck Victorian utility Gary Rohan ahead of WA Under-18 star Morabito, who is expected to develop into a similar player to Sydney Brownlow medallist Adam Goodes.
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,26319553-5005401,00.html
That would be too clever for Freo. They even make most of our recruiting decisions look reasonable. The Dockers are in the AFL just for those times when we start thinking the Tiges are the worst club in the League before realising there's Freo.The Dockers could drop a bombshell at this month's national draft and overlook local Anthony Morabito.
Dockers football staff are believed to be weighing up whether to pluck Victorian utility Gary Rohan ahead of WA Under-18 star Morabito, who is expected to develop into a similar player to Sydney Brownlow medallist Adam Goodes.
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,26319553-5005401,00.html
Maybe their plan is to wait until his first contract is up and lure him home. He did say that he accepts that he may have to start his career interstate
Emma Quayle's opinion of Griffiths .......
Qu. Is Griffiths alot better than later KPF picks like Temel/Houghton/Hill/Kennedy etc?
E.Q.: I would've thought but we've only seen glimpses. Shoulder's a worry - will he be like Robbie Tarrant or like Chris Judd?
http://twitter.com/emmasq
From Emma Quayle's twitter page
Question...... hi emma, with richo gone, is there a small chance that Richmond will go for Butcher?
Quayle: would like to think richmond would be a bit better planned! stunned if they dont pick DM.
http://twitter.com/emmasq
that's one weak uninformed draft.
no way we go for stuff at 19. we'd go for someone like griffiths i'm sure, or another gun mid such as bastinac
Apart from Polly, both Irish boys and Ben Clifton none of the other ring-ins trained yesterday. Not sure what that all means for them.that's one weak uninformed draft.
no way we go for stuff at 19. we'd go for someone like griffiths i'm sure, or another gun mid such as bastinac
I have a feeling we might take Kahlefaldt (sp?) from Southport with a late or rookie pick. Any of you who get to training noticed how he goes?
Apart from Polly, both Irish boys and Ben Clifton none of the other ring-ins trained yesterday. Not sure what that all means for them.that's one weak uninformed draft.
no way we go for stuff at 19. we'd go for someone like griffiths i'm sure, or another gun mid such as bastinac
I have a feeling we might take Kahlefaldt (sp?) from Southport with a late or rookie pick. Any of you who get to training noticed how he goes?
Kevin Sheehan's top 30 prospects (in alphabetical order)A handful of names in there that don't often get mentioned in the top 30 of phantom drafts - Robertson, Gawn, Menzel and Crichton to a lesser extent. Carmody on SEN's draft preview show tonight reckons there'll be a number of surprise movers up and down on draft night. Hopefully once of the better kids slips to 35.
Ryan Bastinac
Aaron Black
John Butcher
Jake Carlisle
Jesse Crichton
Ben Cunnington
Mitchell Duncan
Max Gawn
Benjamin Griffiths
Dylan Grimes
Jordan Gysberts
Lewis Jetta
Kane Lucas
Jasper McMillan-Pittard
Dustin Martin
Jake Melksham
Daniel Menzel
Andrew Moore
Anthony Morabito
Matthew Panos
Dylan Roberton
Gary Rohan
Tom Scully
Bradley Sheppard
Koby Stevens
Daniel Talia
Luke Tapscott
Troy Taylor
Jack Trengove
Nathan Vardy