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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2009, 08:48:44 AM »
However, it's also worth noting that McLean requested the trade, it wasn't Melbourne's choice.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #151 on: September 24, 2009, 11:21:39 AM »
i think Panos is the best forward in the draft.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #152 on: September 24, 2009, 05:50:52 PM »
Listening to SEN driving home they said that Scully wont be playing in the TAC Cup final

Injured his knee last week, had an MRI and wont play - didn't say how serious it was

If it is a serious injury this might open up the draft somewhat?

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #153 on: September 24, 2009, 05:58:48 PM »
A draft pick is still going to take 4 years to get to the level required to become a full time player.

McLean is only 22 years old and a previous #5 draft pick, they're trading away 6 years development for 6 places in the draft less than what the player was taken with originally. It will take Melbourne until 2013-2014 before they find out if they are ahead of the trade or not.

However, it's also worth noting that McLean requested the trade, it wasn't Melbourne's choice.

If Melbourne get:

1 - Scully
2 - Trengrove
11 - Butcher
18 - 3rd mid / 2nd tall

they have done quite good, no ?

“We are now in a very strong position at the National Draft with four selections inside the top 18, all before any other clubs’ second selections have occurred.

"In the context of the last uncompromised draft for a number of years, this represents an outstanding opportunity to further build and develop our young playing list.”

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #154 on: September 24, 2009, 06:03:23 PM »
Far too early to call, especially considering we have no idea who will still be available at 11 yet
Then we have to see if the player they get is any good
Remember McLean was a #5 pick himself and yet to hit his prime

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #155 on: September 24, 2009, 06:08:20 PM »
Melbourne made a decision of the type that we havent made in years. There first 2 picks will be Scully and Trengove, they will then take a Key Position at 11. We will take a mid (3rd best) with our first pick and a key forward (probably again 2 or 3rd best). Melbourne have worked this beautifully.

Agree. It is a sad state of affairs.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #156 on: September 24, 2009, 06:24:31 PM »

If Melbourne get:

1 - Scully
2 - Trengrove
11 - Butcher
18 - 3rd mid / 2nd tall


Would be outstanding for them. That said I don't think Butcher will get that low. Got a feeling Sydney will want a KP forward.

If Butcher really was the standout KP player then I think Melbourne's strategy might change having an each way bet with Scully/Butcher and taking the best available mid at 11. Little bit envious. We should be thinking long and hard about Foley and a first round pick IMHO.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #157 on: September 24, 2009, 06:48:30 PM »
Foley and Newman perhaps. Two first rounders.
Having said this.
Now that Melbourne has four picks inside 18 all other clubs will not want to give another couple of picks to another club in the first round and allow two clubs to monopolise the draft early on and threaten to tear the comp open in 3 or 4 years.

We had our chances in 2004 with the Ottens deal and to be quite frank we blew it with only Deledio the real standout of the five inside 20. Deals like that come around every 5 years or so based on what we had in 2004. Sad state of affairs lads. In so many words we have to be shrewd with our trades and our selections as we will be more f****d than what we are now.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #158 on: September 24, 2009, 07:09:32 PM »
Foley and Newman perhaps.

Has a captain ever been traded?

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #159 on: September 24, 2009, 07:21:36 PM »
Foley and Newman perhaps.

Has a captain ever been traded?

There is no precedent that says he shouldn't. Furthermore would be a huge call by Dimma and the club and would put the whole list on notice that nobody is guaranteed anything in this new era. I think it would be very brave decision by the footy dept and I would applaud it. Nothing against Newman but he was not much of a leader and it's time we put the club first rather than think what if we lose this. Be brave Tigers.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #160 on: September 24, 2009, 07:33:51 PM »

Has a captain ever been traded?
Jeff Hogg.
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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #161 on: September 24, 2009, 07:36:28 PM »
Listening to SEN driving home they said that Scully wont be playing in the TAC Cup final

Injured his knee last week, had an MRI and wont play - didn't say how serious it was

If it is a serious injury this might open up the draft somewhat?

In todays HUN it says he had some repair work to a cracked kneecap (OUCH) and that he is likely to miss the draft camp but will be ready for pre-season training after the draft
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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #162 on: September 24, 2009, 07:50:52 PM »

There is no precedent that says he shouldn't. Furthermore would be a huge call by Dimma and the club and would put the whole list on notice that nobody is guaranteed anything in this new era. I think it would be very brave decision by the footy dept and I would applaud it. Nothing against Newman but he was not much of a leader and it's time we put the club first rather than think what if we lose this. Be brave Tigers.

I agree mate I was just raising the question because I don't think the club has the courage to make a big call.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #164 on: September 24, 2009, 10:19:28 PM »

Has a captain ever been traded?
Jeff Hogg.

Good get.
For Paul Broderick, Michael Gale and Matthew Dundas

Good trade that one, on that form we should look to do it again, although perhaps next year when draft picks will be better and needed more.