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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #195 on: September 30, 2009, 08:28:04 AM »
We have a need at the RFC and i dont care about performance at TAC Level.

If Trengrove is not available we must choose Butcher. The Kid can play. needs to work on his kicking but so what. Look at Buddy, Nick R, Richo and even Stuey Lowe back in the day

Not the most reliable kicks for goal but all 4 are superstars.

Anyone remember a guy called Buddy Franklin? well he had a average lead up to the draft, combined with attitude issues  which is why he slipped down the order and i feel the same will happen here.

we need to find a forward its as simple as that.

its our most important need at the minute without a doubt


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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #196 on: September 30, 2009, 08:53:10 AM »
We have a need at the RFC and i dont care about performance at TAC Level.

If Trengrove is not available we must choose Butcher. The Kid can play. needs to work on his kicking but so what. Look at Buddy, Nick R, Richo and even Stuey Lowe back in the day


I agree.

I haven't seen enough of him to make a personal judgement but if he is as good as some have said then we must take him. Footy is cyclical. I read that article about small forwards being popular at the moment, they might less effective in 5 years time. Good KP forwards are never ineffective.

I couldn't stand seeing Fiora/Pavlich repeated 10 years on.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #197 on: September 30, 2009, 09:12:06 AM »
If Trengrove is not available we must choose Butcher. The Kid can play. needs to work on his kicking but so what. Look at Buddy, Nick R, Richo and even Stuey Lowe back in the day

Not the most reliable kicks for goal but all 4 are superstars.
Of those 4 only 1 has won a flag and that was a fluke

Geelong & West Coast have proved that you can win a flag (or two) with an average forward line but a gun midfield.

I'd like to have both, but if the best kpp has such massive deficiencies in the most important skill a footballer can have, then I'd probably rather take a chance on another tall in the start of the 2nd round that also has deficiencies to make them fall to the 2nd round, but doesn't carry the risk of a bust at Pick 3.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #198 on: September 30, 2009, 09:42:49 AM »
If Trengrove is not available we must choose Butcher. The Kid can play. needs to work on his kicking but so what. Look at Buddy, Nick R, Richo and even Stuey Lowe back in the day

Not the most reliable kicks for goal but all 4 are superstars.
Of those 4 only 1 has won a flag and that was a fluke

Geelong & West Coast have proved that you can win a flag (or two) with an average forward line but a gun midfield.

I'd like to have both, but if the best kpp has such massive deficiencies in the most important skill a footballer can have, then I'd probably rather take a chance on another tall in the start of the 2nd round that also has deficiencies to make them fall to the 2nd round, but doesn't carry the risk of a bust at Pick 3.

you need a forward line Infamy simple as that.

Look at the Lions when they won 3 on the trot. How was their forward line? Flags or not those 4 guys i mentioned are/were superstars.

Anyone who went to a single game this year could see Jack R has no idea when he takes on the No 1 defender. He needs help.

I can see good things for us with a forward line that has Jack R, Butcher, Morton and Nahas in our forward line with Vickery floating in and out.

Post CHF.

Butcher can play. He can take a grab and i believe the rest will come with a bit of help from Mcmahon, Simmo and Jackson

Mids come and go but KPP are rare, especially ones that were touted a top 3 prospect 2 months ago as Butcher was
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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #199 on: September 30, 2009, 10:00:27 AM »
We really ideally need two picks in the first round. Of the top key forwards in the comp, Riewoldt, Brown, Franklin, Pav almost all of them are top 5 picks (f/s in Browns case but he would have gone early).

If you look at some of the top mids in the comp, there is Selwood @ 8, Hayes and Dal Santo @ 11 and 14, Bartel went around 7 I think. Callan Ward looks like he could be a star was #19. Now you need to have a bit of vision but there is more scope for finding a gun midfielder with a late first round/second round pick than there is finding a gun KP. Its a little bit of there being more to choose from and a little bit of it being easier to develop midfielders than KP forwards who need to have the raw athleticism of say Riewoldt or Franklin or the physical maturity, courage and ability to read the game like J. Brown.

The terrible thing is we have no real hope of trading for a late first round pick. Foley maybe but his stocks are so much lower than 12 months ago.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #200 on: September 30, 2009, 01:57:58 PM »
Seems Scully and Trengove had been told they're off to Melbourne:


Scully - "I'd love to play for Melbourne. It is a fantastic club and has a proud history. Their list is fairly young and developing and they are going to be a good team in the next couple of years."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85495/default.aspx


SOUTH Australia's hottest prospect Jack Trengove is as good – if not better – than former No.1 draft pick Bryce Gibbs at the same age, according to talent manager Brenton Phillips.

Trengove appears unlikely to follow in Gibbs' footsteps and be taken at No.1 in this year's NAB AFL Draft with Melbourne, which has the first two picks, understood to be committed to Victorian teenager Tom Scully.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85491/default.aspx

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #201 on: September 30, 2009, 02:15:24 PM »
3 Votes: Jordan Mcmahon

Thanks Pal  :thumbsup

not only does he lose games for us but even when he wins games for us he screws us over
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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #202 on: September 30, 2009, 02:21:26 PM »
3 Votes: Jordan Mcmahon

Thanks Pal  :thumbsup

not only does he lose games for us but even when he wins games for us he screws us over

Tanking cost Melb Brock Mclean.

How would you have felt if we had tanked and Brett Delidio walked out on us?

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #203 on: September 30, 2009, 02:52:10 PM »
Emma Quayle has a blog/twitter account going from the draft camp.....

Dustin Martin stars in the 20m sprint. 2.92, 2.89 and 2.90.

John Butcher ran a 2.99 second sprint.


Best (I think) was Ayden Kennedy from Eastern Ranges - 2.88 seconds

Good job by Andrew hooper in the 20m. Best time 2.90, all three under 3 seconds. Might enhance his chances

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #204 on: September 30, 2009, 02:57:31 PM »
Yes! Jordan McMahon has cost us!

there is no doubt about that!

Melbourne purely TANKED that match, and probably we did to.

Melbourne is still young and at least 3-5 years away from finals, where as Richmond could be anywhere depending on our attitude.

Trengove would of been niceeee at Tigerland, so thank you Jordan McMahon!

just hope Dustin Martin is in the Yellow & Black.

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #205 on: September 30, 2009, 03:04:47 PM »
3 Votes: Jordan Mcmahon

Thanks Pal  :thumbsup

not only does he lose games for us but even when he wins games for us he screws us over

Tanking cost Melb Brock Mclean.

How would you have felt if we had tanked and Brett Delidio walked out on us?

 :thumbsup

That rumour is up there with Hardwick not getting the job at Essendon because his computer failed him.

Prove that was his reason for walking out on the Dees. Did he actually say that??

If its true as you say he left because of the tanking that went on, then why on earth would he join a club called CARLTON who are the biggest culprits

Does not make sense at all.










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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #206 on: September 30, 2009, 03:23:48 PM »
3 Votes: Jordan Mcmahon

Thanks Pal  :thumbsup

not only does he lose games for us but even when he wins games for us he screws us over

Tanking cost Melb Brock Mclean.

How would you have felt if we had tanked and Brett Delidio walked out on us?

 :thumbsup

That rumour is up there with Hardwick not getting the job at Essendon because his computer failed him.

Prove that was his reason for walking out on the Dees. Did he actually say that??

If its true as you say he left because of the tanking that went on, then why on earth would he join a club called CARLTON who are the biggest culprits

Does not make sense at all.


Not rumour but F A C T fact.

...and Carlton convinced him that those days were over.

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Draft pool not so shallow (AFL site)
« Reply #207 on: September 30, 2009, 03:28:55 PM »
Draft pool not so shallow
By Jason Phelan 2:55 PM Wed 30 September, 2009

GENERAL consensus in football circles is that the talent pool for the 2009 NAB AFL Draft isn't as strong as in recent years, but Port Adelaide football manager Peter Rohde suspects that the bad rap might turn out to be incorrect.

All 18 AFL clubs – including the Gold Coast and Western Sydney – have descended on Canberra to watch this year's draft hopefuls go through their paces at the NAB AFL Draft Camp and Rohde has liked what he's seen so far.

"People talk about good and bad drafts, but when you see them all here together there are still a lot of good players to pick from," he said on Wednesday.

"I'm sure there will be some very good players emerge out of this draft pool."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85506/default.aspx

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #208 on: September 30, 2009, 04:24:48 PM »
Just spotted Richmond interviewing Anthony Morabito, he's in the mix at No. 3 no doubt.

Dimma is up here talking to the kids

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Re: 2009 AFL Draft
« Reply #209 on: September 30, 2009, 05:17:12 PM »
Looks like Dustin Martin has quashed those rumours that he lacks pace
Makes me hope we take him at #3 even more, he would be the perfect compliment to Lids, Cotch & Collins.