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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2100 on: September 13, 2013, 09:14:37 PM »
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Dusty, Dusty if Caros correct

You're not listening to the right folks again   >:(

And as for your manager and his merry team of twits, they are not doing what their client(s) have asked

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2101 on: September 13, 2013, 09:49:01 PM »
The playing out of this when others have signed up is not endearing him to the faithful.

Whatever advice he is receiving from his posse is average and not in his best interest, at then end of the day we or most understand that this is his lively hood but c'mon as a club we have done more for him in regards DUTY of CARE, putting in place practices that he otherwise wouldn't have done.
This is where this club has improved, but we won't and shouldn't be held to ransom by some bloke who feels he can poo in the nest.

You would assume he would seek counsel from people that have helped him out with his issues whilst at Tigerland and you would hope he takes on board their feedback whether its right or wrong.

At the end of the day one goes and one comes in, what's more disappointing is what the club has attempted to do for him, it seems with scant regard from him or his manager.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2102 on: September 13, 2013, 09:50:41 PM »
It's all very suspenseful

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2103 on: September 13, 2013, 09:57:28 PM »
Tiger71 on BF earlier this arvo:

"Also to those that think Dusty is going, rest easy he is not"

"As from last I heard, still waiting on official afl approval. Once that's a lock it should be announced."

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-rumour-discussion.1031264/page-22#post-30125557

So either he or Caro has the wrong info.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2104 on: September 13, 2013, 10:10:57 PM »
The playing out of this when others have signed up is not endearing him to the faithful.

Whatever advice he is receiving from his posse is average and not in his best interest, at then end of the day we or most understand that this is his lively hood but c'mon as a club we have done more for him in regards DUTY of CARE, putting in place practices that he otherwise wouldn't have done.
This is where this club has improved, but we won't and shouldn't be held to ransom by some bloke who feels he can poo in the nest.

You would assume he would seek counsel from people that have helped him out with his issues whilst at Tigerland and you would hope he takes on board their feedback whether its right or wrong.

At the end of the day one goes and one comes in, what's more disappointing is what the club has attempted to do for him, it seems with scant regard from him or his manager.

Blame his management

When his Dad stepped in, things got back on track

It then goes back to his manager to seal it all and goes back to dragging out again

Can I add what's interesting is that Caro supposedly made her commentSon 3Aw tonight before the game

But on twitter 3AW didn't tweet anything about it  :-\
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2105 on: September 13, 2013, 10:48:11 PM »
The playing out of this when others have signed up is not endearing him to the faithful.

Whatever advice he is receiving from his posse is average and not in his best interest, at then end of the day we or most understand that this is his lively hood but c'mon as a club we have done more for him in regards DUTY of CARE, putting in place practices that he otherwise wouldn't have done.
This is where this club has improved, but we won't and shouldn't be held to ransom by some bloke who feels he can poo in the nest.

You would assume he would seek counsel from people that have helped him out with his issues whilst at Tigerland and you would hope he takes on board their feedback whether its right or wrong.

At the end of the day one goes and one comes in, what's more disappointing is what the club has attempted to do for him, it seems with scant regard from him or his manager.

Blame his management

When his Dad stepped in, things got back on track

It then goes back to his manager to seal it all and goes back to dragging out again

Can I add what's interesting is that Caro supposedly made her commentSon 3Aw tonight before the game

But on twitter 3AW didn't tweet anything about it  :-\

Understand WP that that his management or more specifically Ralph Carr are game playing to gain an advantage, but I'm sure DM is kept up to date with specifics, if he really wanted to stay and was offered more than previously I would have thought he would tell them guys enough of the bull rap get it done.
So are we going to go down this track on his next contract in a few years time, is this going tone the norm, lets hope not.
   

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2106 on: September 13, 2013, 10:52:07 PM »
Would hate to see the bull crap we'll go through for his next contract.

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2107 on: September 13, 2013, 11:26:25 PM »
From Caro - nothing about any offers being pulled:
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Saints cancel trip with Tiger

Caroline Wilson
Chief Football Writer for The Age

St Kilda footballers Sam Fisher and David Armitage have cancelled an end-of-season trip to the US with Richmond's Dustin Martin at the urging of their coach.

It has emerged that Saints coach Scott Watters spoke to Fisher and Armitage after learning of their holiday plans. The meeting was part of a wider confrontation involving all St Kilda players following their ''Mad Monday'' indiscretion.

St Kilda football boss Chris Pelchen warned Watters he could not ban the proposed trip with Martin or enforce end-of-season break restrictions on his team, but Watters is understood to have received the backing of Pelchen and his entire club executive in strongly urging Fisher and Armitage to change their travel plans.

Watters, who made his disappointment known in no uncertain terms to all his players, communicated to Fisher, Armitage and several others that their decision-making processes needed to improve because they could impact upon themselves and the club. Watters is understood to have made it clear that holidaying with Martin in the US could be one of those decisions that could have a negative impact on St Kilda.

Martin and Fisher committed separate indiscretions at the end of season 2012 with Fisher dropped from the Saints' leadership group for 2013 and Martin taken under the wing of his young captain Trent Cotchin for several weeks and also nurtured by the Tigers' senior assistant coach Mark Williams.

Martin's off-field issues have punctuated his career at Richmond and, despite a solid 2013 season, he remains at the crossroads with the club, having so far refused to sign a new contract with the Tigers.

His handcuff gesture during the first half of the elimination final against Carlton last Sunday resulted in him receiving a suspended $2000 fine from the AFL.

Although Richmond believed the 22-year-old was poised to put pen to a new two-year deal in August, contract talks stalled again and Martin is no certainty to remain at the club and suggestions the club trade him have not been ruled out.

Martin's gesture, reportedly a cheerio aimed at a friend of his bikie father, came just days before the revelation that Jake King had last month invited one of Melbourne's most high-profile crime figures into the club's rooms after a game, a move slammed on Friday by AFL boss Andrew Demetriou.

Fisher also appears at the crossroads with the Saints. The 31-year-old dual club champion and one-time All-Australian defender has attracted interest from Greater Western Sydney and, with long-time teammate Nick Dal Santo, could continue the mounting exodus of older players from St Kilda as Watters' thorough regeneration of his senior list continues.

The coach is believed to have passionately demonstrated how disappointed he was in his squad after senior Saint Leigh Montagna hired two dwarf entertainers for the players' post-season function at Bell's Hotel in South Melbourne.

Both the senior coach and the AFL had spoken to the St Kilda players just days before the function, at which player Clinton Jones set one of the entertainers alight.

The subsequent fall-out had the players curbing their drinking at the Saints' best-and-fairest and cancel their after-party.

Almost a dozen footballers changed their overseas travel plans.

Team leaders, led by captain Nick Riewoldt, apologised to Saints fans via a filmed presentation and chief executive Michael Nettlefold said the club had drawn a line in the sand regarding off-field behaviour and culture.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-cancel-trip-with-tiger-20130913-2tqd0.html#ixzz2emM63XKl
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2108 on: September 14, 2013, 12:09:12 AM »

Must be pure speculation at this point, a player like joel selwood . But i bet they are not paid that kind of money
Don't remember exactly how much but he did take a big pay check couple years back

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2109 on: September 14, 2013, 12:11:26 AM »


When his Dad stepped in, things got back on track


Do you know what his Dad actually did?

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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2110 on: September 14, 2013, 07:46:11 AM »

Must be pure speculation at this point, a player like joel selwood . But i bet they are not paid that kind of money
Don't remember exactly how much but he did take a big pay check couple years back

I remember Cam Mooney having a casual chat maybe with marko and ox and it came up, he said something along the lines of between 500-600 tops.

Ill be dissapointed if he goes but, a precedence has been set and club needs to stick with it.
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2111 on: September 14, 2013, 08:35:44 AM »
No I'm sure that was BS  :shh
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2112 on: September 14, 2013, 08:41:11 AM »


When his Dad stepped in, things got back on track


Do you know what his Dad actually did?

When in Melb he spoke to the club - it was around the time Barrett, Seteves & Caro said deal would be done before the finals

Think Caro has even wrote about it a coulple of  weeks ago that is said the old man had gotten involved

Actually think someone on here in this thread even posted about the old man being seen leaving the ME Bank Centre  ;D



 
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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2113 on: September 14, 2013, 08:52:34 AM »


When his Dad stepped in, things got back on track


Do you know what his Dad actually did?

His mum.



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Re: Dustin Martin [merged]
« Reply #2114 on: September 14, 2013, 09:48:39 AM »