this will be my final reply to you on this issue because you refuse for whatever reason to actually read what I've written.
-MISS 5 HOME AND AWAY GAMES (you failed to mention that in your comments previously)
-pay a $5000 fine
-"pay a big chunk of change to White Ribbon"
-"spend time with the White Ribbon Org to hopefully get the message"
Firstly this is what I quoted when I first replied to you with examples of what I wrote
Yes this female may well have said something to him but regardless of what was said, his response was totally inappropriate.
Agree
Have said a couple of times he was complete moron and his actions were disgusting
After having time to consider it all
Taking out how it all came to being in the public domain which is I think is dubious at best the fact is he, while drunk threatened someone; gender is not the issue. The issue is he threatened someone. So based on that...
I believe he needs to be punished and it needs to be a decent punishment, slap over a the wrist and a token fine isn't enough. Understand under the CBA maximum he can be fined is $5k what a farcical situation that is
Anyway IMESHO he should cop a suspension of the entire preseason comp and a minimum of 5 weeks of the main season, the $5k fine is obvious but I'd be telling him it's in his best interest to donate a large chunk of change to White Ribbon. I'd also get him to spend some time with the White Ribbon Org to hopefully get the message
Just my take
You accuse me of not mentioning something in my first post but it is clearly there so, I've highlighted it again. It is there, no failure on my part.
However, If you are taking about my very first reply without any quoting (which I think you might be
), then yep forgot the 5 H&A games but low an behold I didn't attempt to hide it and edit the direct quote out of the original thread did I? took ownership of what I wrote which is contrary to the your accusations about my posting.
I could have changed it but I didn't copied what I wrote at the time, didn't shy away from it, posted it lock, stock and barrel. So again don't accuse me of only posting half truths - I have in fact posted exactly what I wrote.
Its funny that you "stand by your comments" even though they were made before the police investigation and then hearing Dusty had no case to answer to??
Should he get the same punishment if found guilty or innocent?
Can you explain that?
Can anyone explain that?
i understand that was your opinion on hearing what the media said took place, but now after the police have said Dustry had no case to answer to that you still stand by the punishment you wanted for him originally??
You say "your views are there for all to see and you haven't changed them at all" but that's the point. Why does your original opinion on his punishment not change after hearing Dusty was wrongly accused??
He didn't do what was reported originally and yet you still want the same punishment to this day. As you say "you stand by your comments".
Can you please explain that??
Explain it? I have explained it but you don't like the answer so you want further explanation.
Wrongly accused? Yes He was not charged by the police for threatening the woman = not in dispute.
But he was also accused of being drunk in public, so drunk 3-4 weeks into pre-season training that he himself admitted he could remember what happened, he could barely stand up, and verbally abused a member of the public (granted an attention seeking hypocrite) . That is not in dispute and that is what IMESHO he should have still been punished for. that is what I said after he was cleared by the cops. My stance on his moronic behaviour did not change. Find it amusing that you've come after me over my comments but not bothered attacking anyone else. Why is that exactly?
But just so you know I wans't selective the other day in quoting posts on the topic here's a few more that are throughout the 74 pages, and oddly my opinion is the same throughout
A whack at the media
Now I am going to go whack here
I still think Dusty did a moronic thing
But he media have today stooped to anew level of gutter journalism
The HUN article Dio posted, the tripe in the Age from John Silvestor is simply shameful, pathetic and totally over the top. Talk about prejudicing a persons case.
Suggest the media Let the cops do their job rather than ranting like lunatics on Ice.
Let the cops decide what to do with this case
And if that means he gets charged, he gets charged, if if means there is no case here then fine move on.
But this media grandstanding and trying to score points off the back of this gutter journalism at of the highest order
From another poster who you haven't attacked but gave Dusty a whack
At the end of the day, Dustin has only got himself to blame.
If Dustin didn't have any understanding of how his actions could impact the larger supporter group and football community then he certainly will have now.
This is the reality that a lot of young footballers don't actually get, they don't actually get that they can have such a large-scale impact on the community of course with the backing of media hysteria.
Good luck to him, he is going to need it. The press are after blood, the club is probably too scared to act, not that they can probably do very much anyway, but still.
I think involving the police was very good idea I think by doing that it will actually stabilise the scene to some extent there will be some goading by press towards the Richmond football club to smash Dustin I think they need to judge the evidence on its merit and act accordingly.
He might get eight weeks
And then this (please read it carefully):
Why the lack of support behind our club and player WP? Seem all you have done is play devils advocate.
I support Dusty, but I am not going to sit here and say he didn't do a completely stupid, idiotic, moronic thing. I am not going to sit here a say he is the sole victim here because he isn't. 3-4 weeks into pre-season he goes out and gets himself so smashed he can't remember what he did or didn't do, that's not smart, that's stupid
He deserves to punished for being a an idiot. Do I believe he should cop 12 months, 15 games? No but he needs to cop some sort of whack.
If it was a player that people on here can't stand or a bloke in our bottom 10 and folks want out of the club I doubt the support would be there. The posts would be "sack him"
Forgive me for not excusing his behaviour simply because he is one of best players. In this situation all players should be treated the same..
And then this after it was announced he wasn't going to be charged (put my hand up here I thought the club would punish him they didn't - got that wrong)
Hahahahahahaha classic. WP you still thinks he deserves a punishment?? 
Yeah, I do for being an idiot absolutely
Getting totally tanked, so tanked he can't remember what he did and behaving like moron in a public place 3 weeks into preseason was stupid so yeah he deserves a whack for that. Any other player would cop a punishment
And like it or not he will cop one
And finally from page 65 of the thread
I will be interested to see what the club does the next time one of our players is drunk in public. Will the be so generous in the punishment? They've set the standard so I hope they consistently apply this to every player on the list
And before people start in on me for having an opinion that's not popular
I have been very very consistent on this issue from day 1 and so people are clear I'll go through it all again
- Dusty deserved to be punished for being a moron. 4 weeks into pre-season training to be so drunk that he can't remember what he said or did is not acceptable. IMHO He is very lucky with what he's been dealt as it is a soft penalty. As I posted above I hope the club is consistent in any future punishment they dish out for similar incidents if they occur. Onus is on the club now to ensure they treat all players the same, doubt they will be but hey thats the RFC for you
- The woman who made the allegations - I have said from day 1- why if she was so traumatised, so in fear of safety did she not call the cops on the spot, get the restaurant to kick him out? Why did she wait over 48 hours to do anything (ring the club and tell her employer Ch7)? That was pathetic on her part. The fact she refused to give the cops a statement speaks volumes about her I would have thought
- I welcomed the Police getting involved. Glad they did because the accusations were serious. They have found that on the issue of the threats with chopsticks - no case.
- I made it very clear that if the accusations were found to be true then Dusty had to cop a whack. I stand by that I don't care who you are, what your lot in life is behaviour like that is simply not acceptable from anyone towards anyone, gender, race, nationality has no bearing
- I never once said he should be sacked or suspended for 12 months, said he should be punished for being a moron
Can I be any clearer in what I said / wrote? There is no ambiguity. My opinion is clear
So I have explained it. It's all there so what needs further explanation?
You don't like it, fine
But don't abuse me for having an opinon, don't accuse me of lying, accuse me of not owning my opinions and never accuse me of not supporting Dusty because I always have, always will. Bad, stupid, moronic behaviour by
any of our players should not be ignored or excused just because of their ability or overall importance to the club. There shouldn't be different rules for different fools
