PSD pick

[mightytiges]

As most of the "names" lol weren't delisted (apart from McKee) any future delistings will have to go into the PSD. Won't know about Knobel and Blake for another 2 weeks. Also means we've got 2 weeks to do something with Zantuck.

Who should we go after out of McGrath, Keating, Corey?, Knobel?, Blake?, Porter, Ackland or McKee?

Talk about slim pickings  .

[WilliamPowell]

I'd go for Blake that way he doesn't have to worry about Staff's knees

I reckon Knobel will want to much money. Porter can head back to Carlton. Keating shouldn't b e an option becuae we need someone who can play atleast 17-20 games a year not someone who's around finals time

McGrath - well we had one of them and it didn't work out

Ackland - no thanks don't think he is dedicated enough

And Steve Mckee - no problems if we take if we cannnot get Blake

[mightytiges]

I would go for Blake as well WP. The best of a pretty thin PSD and a ruckman to boot. Our ruck stocks would be fairly strong if we have Simmonds, Stafford, Blake + a young ruckman. It'd allso allow the youngster to develop without rushing him into the senior side to cover the loss of a injured senior player.

[Fishfinger]

I see Blake as more a possibility to fill a key backline position. If we take him I reckon we'll still need a ruckman. I doubt he'd be more than nuisance value against the likes of Gardiner or Everitt, as is the case when Ray Hall rucks.

[WilliamPowell]

I actually watched part of a replay of a Saints -v- Carlton this afternoon in Fox Footy specifically to have a look at Knobel and Blake.

Of the 2 it is a no contest by a mile - Blake for mine.

I thought Knobel's disposal was average (a remember this is a game the Saints won but 100+ points), actually his skills in general were average. His ruck work reminded me of Jerry Maguire sorry I did it again    I meant Ottens - just dropping straight down at his own feet. NO THANKS

[cub]

I am not that much of an expert at the draft - after the first handful of picks NFI

Is there any really tall kids in there somewhere - if so take a punt and try to find the next first class ruckman instead of talking about re-cycled hacks that are nuisance value only. Going nowhere 

[WilliamPowell]

Is there any really tall kids in there somewhere - if so take a punt and try to find the next first class ruckman instead of talking about re-cycled hacks that are nuisance value only. Going nowhere 

CUB, I have no doubt we will target a young ruckman in the National Draft - will probably use one of our 5 picks in the top 20 on one but when comes to ruckman ready to play we have Simmonds & Stafford. I don't care what anyone says - Ray Hall aint no ruckman so he isn't an option.

We need a back up in case something happens to either Stafford, Simmonds or both. We need someone to be available who is big enough and strong enough to make a contest. An 18y.o. 90kgs beanpole is not going to give you that and that would be the only reason you pick a re-cycled ruckman.

The other point is Stafford is 30 and 2005 may just be his final year - any kid we draft this season is unlikely to be ready to be you number 2 let alone number 1 ruckman for at least 2-3 years, remembering that ruckman take longer to develop that say a mid-fileder

[wrennyboy]

Is there any really tall kids in there somewhere - if so take a punt and try to find the next first class ruckman instead of talking about re-cycled hacks that are nuisance value only. Going nowhere

Yeh this is apparantly quoted as teh best year for ruckman in the draft ever.

I will put them in order of what i think will go the highest to the lowest

Cameron Wood
Fabian DeLuca
John Meeson
Ivan Maric
Chad Gibson
Earl Shaw

[mightytiges]

The other point is Stafford is 30 and 2005 may just be his final year - any kid we draft this season is unlikely to be ready to be you number 2 let alone number 1 ruckman for at least 2-3 years, remembering that ruckman take longer to develop that say a mid-fileder

Spot on WP. Add to that Staff's record of injury in his time at Tigerland isn't very good. We'll need this spare experienced ruckman for 2005.

[JohnF]

I'd rather we passed on our first pick in the PSD than pick up one of these rejects that are being suggested. No use getting a dud just to fill the list.

[mightytiges]

I'd rather we passed on our first pick in the PSD than pick up one of these rejects that are being suggested. No use getting a dud just to fill the list.

Based on our previous efforts over the past 10 years that's not bad advice John.

2004: Ben Marsh, Luke Weller (delisted end of same year)
1999: Clay Sampson
1997: Brett Evans
1996: Darren Gaspar (compensation pick for Maxfield)
1995: Stuart Wigney, Mark McQueen
1994: Jamie Elliott, Hayden Robbins, Adam Slater

[JohnF]

Just think of how much money we would have saved if we passed on all those clowns MT. 

[mightytiges]

Apart from Gas who at least had an AFL career albeit overpaid after 2001 thanks to Mark Brayshaw, the rest you would have missed if you blinked. Wigney was good in the first 9 games of 95 but then found his dudness level again. The birdman sole memorable contribution was a 60m bomb for a goal after the half time siren in 98 against the bombers. The rest did bugger all.

[Harry]

I'd rather we passed on our first pick in the PSD than pick up one of these rejects that are being suggested. No use getting a dud just to fill the list.

I'm with Johnny F on this one.

I'd rather use pick 60 (or thereabouts) in the national draft than pick up another Marsh or Weller in the PSD.

[om21]

Apart from Gas who at least had an AFL career albeit overpaid after 2001 thanks to Mark Brayshaw, the rest you would have missed if you blinked. Wigney was good in the first 9 games of 95 but then found his dudness level again. The birdman sole memorable contribution was a 60m bomb for a goal after the half time siren in 98 against the bombers. The rest did bugger all.

Are you forgetting the best hip and shoulder from a player in black/yellow for the last 20 years that made BBB Barry Hall go snap?

Mark McQueen.....LMAO @ Picking him up about 3 seperate times in the draft.