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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2004, 10:28:11 PM »
I read somewhere today (I am sure it is one of these articles) that we will only be using one pick in the rookie draft - thatmeans carrying 2 rookies in 2005.

They have a total footy department budget that they intend to stick to. I'd like more rookies but I understand the thinking.

I actaully think we have used our rookie list well in the last couple of seasons - the way we handled Kel Moore was a credit to the Club :thumbsup IMO that's how the rookie list should be used
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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #76 on: December 13, 2004, 01:24:06 AM »
I caught a glimpse of some guy the had on SEN talking about the rookie draft. He mentioned from statistics that AFL clubs use the success rate of rookies making it after the first 2 rookie draft picks is very poor. Maybe that's our thinking.
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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2004, 03:17:15 AM »
I read somewhere today (I am sure it is one of these articles) that we will only be using one pick in the rookie draft - that means carrying 2 rookies in 2005.

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12 December 2004   
Sunday Herald Sun
By JACKIE EPSTEIN

IT took about 15 minutes for Ruory Kirkby's disappointment to subside on national draft day. Three weeks ago the key position player was surprisingly overlooked by all 16 clubs after being tipped by many as a first-round selection.

But soon after Kirkby received a call from Richmond football director Greg Miller inviting him to train with the Tigers.

"The initial thinking was disappointment, but after you get over that there's always other avenues to take," Kirkby, 18, said.

"You just realise there are other options and hopefully they can come through.

"Richmond is in a rebuilding stage, like Hawthorn and like St Kilda were a few years ago, so I think they've got a lot of things to look forward to."

Kirkby had no hesitation making the move from Echuca and has been living with Miller and his family.

His father, Ivan, said it did not take long for Ruory's confidence to return.

"After the disappointment of the draft he's just hoping to get back into the system," Ivan said.

"He's fairly resilient and got over it fairly quickly. He wants people to know he's worth a punt."

Ruory said it was daunting at first, but he has adapted to the Tigers' demanding pre-season schedule.

He hopes to be picked up with one of the club's two selections in Tuesday's pre-season draft.

Failing that, there is one spot available on the rookie list.


"It would be good not to miss out again," Kirkby said.

"I haven't really thought about it much at the moment and I'm just trying to train as best I can and put myself in a strong position to impress them.

"Even if it doesn't happen, there are still other options for me to take in VFL or interstate. Even so, it's not all over."

Kirkby played for Victoria Country in the national under-18 championships and earned All-Australian honours.

He can play in defence or forward, but was not a standout performer at the draft camp.

AFL talent manager Kevin Sheehan said it was unpredictable on draft day, with each club forming different views.

"There's always a surprise and he was one of them," Sheehan said.

"He might have been the next player on some clubs' lists. He's had the benefit now of training for a few weeks, so that becomes a positive for Richmond to get to know him.

"He's one of 100 who joined clubs in the pre-season."

A strong motivation for Kirkby, a Collingwood fan, is trying to prove the recruiters wrong.

"No one really told me why," Kirkby said. "But I think they got the notion -- I don't know if this is true -- that I wasn't athletic enough.

"Some clubs, when it came to their choice, overlooked me because they thought I wasn't athletic enough, but I couldn't have really put my hand any higher with all the achievements . . . over the last year.

"I'll say it's their loss. Hopefully, I'll prove them wrong and it just makes you think how much more you want it."

Miller said Kirkby had done everything asked of him and was one of six young players the club was looking at.

"He came down from Echuca hoping to be picked up," Miller said.

"He was an All-Australian and it was a surprise he wasn't picked up in the national draft.

"He's given it his best shot. We have some quality kids trying out with us."
 
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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2004, 04:50:07 AM »
Has this Knobel dude put a price on his head - I would not be prepared to give him any more than minimum wage and let him prove himself - otherwise he seems to be acting like another nottens.

Even though as I have confessed before I really dont give to much of a poo about other sides these days so dont watch real closely.

Whats he worth ?

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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2004, 08:43:13 AM »

He hopes to be picked up with one of the club's two selections in Tuesday's pre-season draft.

Failing that, there is one spot available on the rookie list.



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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2004, 02:33:08 PM »
Anyone know what The Prize has been doing training wise?


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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2004, 03:25:01 PM »
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Anyone know what The Prize has been doing training wise?

He has been training with the Blues for the last 4 weeks or so.

He isnt a world beater but i think he is a far better option than McKee.

Knobel atleast has scope to improve and more age on his side.

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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2004, 03:46:39 PM »
Has this Knobel dude put a price on his head - I would not be prepared to give him any more than minimum wage and let him prove himself - otherwise he seems to be acting like another nottens.

Even though as I have confessed before I really dont give to much of a poohe about other sides these days so dont watch real closely.

Whats he worth ?

Knobel is a tap ruckman (a competitive rather than a dominant one) and that's about it. Not one for possessions around the ground during his time with the Saints.

He'll apparently be on $160-210K depending on how many senior games he plays.

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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #83 on: December 13, 2004, 08:51:56 PM »
Just looking at his stats on AFL.com.au, he suprisingly takes around 3 marks a game and has taken up to 7 marks in a game this year.

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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #84 on: December 14, 2004, 01:56:39 AM »
To be totally honest I cant see anyone in the draft getting a guernsey in the side - Big statement for a side that finished last I know :gobdrop -

Would rather the club save the $$$ instead of spending just for the sake of it. Maybe rookie list someone but that would be it IMO  :cheers

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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #85 on: December 14, 2004, 08:31:35 AM »
You must mean of the players we can take. Caracella and Schofield would be walk-up starts.

We have to take a ruckman because we haven't got one ready to play after Stafford and Simmonds. King and Everitt last season toyed with Ray Hall, and from memory, Schulz as well. Nothing more than token resistance and more likely to be badly hurt than have an effect.

I'm still dumbfounded that Marsh wasn't played when Ottens and Stafford were both out. He may have been considered a dud but it's what he was recruited for. At least he was big enough to compete.
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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #86 on: December 14, 2004, 08:48:09 AM »
Anyone know why we didn't pick Kirkby and who we did pick in the rookie.
Why would Miller have the kid living with him and training at the club if we weren't going for him.

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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #87 on: December 14, 2004, 09:15:19 AM »
Anyone know why we didn't pick Kirkby and who we did pick in the rookie.
Why would Miller have the kid living with him and training at the club if we weren't going for him.


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Re: PSD pick
« Reply #88 on: December 14, 2004, 09:19:38 AM »
They had Kirkby's manager on Sen this morning, and he said RFC weren't picking him up.
He siad they were going for Knobel and had another kid as their rookie.

I guess you're right, wait till 10am and find out for sure :-)

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Knobel a Tiger / pass on 2nd pick
« Reply #89 on: December 14, 2004, 10:12:17 AM »
Pre-season draft selections

1. Richmond - Knobel
2. Pies - Caracella
3. Blues - Betts
4. Roos - Piacione
5. Freo - Schofield
6. Ess - Zantuck
7. Port - Ware
8. Richmond - Pass
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