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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #285 on: February 14, 2010, 12:06:11 AM »
we have a real bad losing mentality down there as well
As soon as we get behind, there is no one equal to the challenge ahead to stand up

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #286 on: February 14, 2010, 01:02:43 AM »
You mention new game plan.
The first 3 quarters were kick short and kick wide.
If thats the game plan, we wont be competitive for the entire year I am afraid.

Yep, new game plan.  Every single Richmond official and player has mentioned it since last season - it's not news Jack.  Did it work for us?  Not tonight, no.  Does it have a long term future?  Way way too early to tell.   Was there differences from last year's?  Absolutely.  We were forced wide and kicked short largely because we came up against one of the best drilled and most disciplined sides going around in recent times.  Samson and Goliath stuff.  Did we revert to the stop, prop, look around, panic that we have all become accustomed to in recent years?  Rarely, if at all.  So let's indulge the coaching group and our very young squad just a tad more than hanging them on 3/4 of their first game together.

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Hawthorn eased up in the last quarter.

Meh.  I don't buy that crap at anytime.  At any point in a game of football you only play as well as the opposition lets you.  We allowed them to play well early on and we tightened up (or loosened up) later on - it all depends on whether your cup is half empty or half full.

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Clarkson was smiling and joking at the three quarter time huddle

He was doing that before the game Jack.

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Very bad night for the RFC , its effects membership sales but more importantly players dropped there head once they got behind, the mark to Roughhead in the 3rd quarter when 5 of our players were spectators and watched said it all, THEY AINT LEARNT ANYTHING in the past 16 weeks.

I disagree that they dropped their heads.  I think they lacked the knowledge and confidence to turn the game around or at least stem the flow, but what more do you want from this team of absolute babies?  I didn't see them drop off in intensity at the tackle (even if the execution wasn't perfect) for 4 quarters and that tells me a lot about the character of the group and the change in attitude.

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Might also add a mate who works for an AFL Club and watches all clubs thought that we were the worst club training at the present., After tonight, he is correct.

What do you mean by that Jack?  Worst in attitude, worst in method, worst in output, or just worst in I want to bag the club and this is a throwaway line I can chuck in?

Do you think Adelaide is going to be a 10 goal worse side than Port Adelaide over the course of this season?


God rebutt Smokey.

Jack your a smart guy but you continue to sound like a 50 year old women who never gets to climax.

You start looking at everything negatively.

Richmond lost a NAB cup game in the same fashion as last, year a few little changes were noticeable and fingers crossed more click over the course o the year. Plenty of positives:

- Graham and Vickory looked 100 times more competitive in the ruck than last year. I actually thought they won the ruck battles but clearances suggest they wouldn't have.
- Post held Doughead to minimal shots on goal and when the ball hit the ground he won 100% of the time.
- Gourdis was not at sea against Franklin, soured my expectations of him
- Riewoldt was welcomed to Richos nightmare.. I don't think he was given a kick to advantage till the last qtr, but popped up in the 4th and showed improvement. Some will say downhill skier but many game slast ear when he didn't get a kick early his game was finished.
- Connors showed he has had a good pre season, long way to go for mine, but others like him.
- Dustin Martin
- Cotchin played didn't look hampered by any injury broke away with speed from a pack and kicked a 50m pass. Injury concerned finished. Big posistive.
- Astbury looks lively.
- Edwards was ok.
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #287 on: February 14, 2010, 01:09:54 AM »
Once again that '04 draft returned to haunt us. Compare the input from Roughead and Franklin with Lids and Bling. Deledio - hardly sighted all night.Tambling made mistake after mistake. Giving away 50m penalties, stepping over the line with his kick-in,handballing to teamates under pressure in the backline. You name it. I'm sick of waiting for this bloke to come good.   

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #288 on: February 14, 2010, 01:24:00 AM »
Your right RR.

What can we do about it now. Nothing.

I still find it astonishing that Bulldogs cop NO flack what so ever since the picked Tom "WHO" Williams ahead of Franklin, yet Tambling has copped it for years.

I think we'll enjoy the season alot more if we compare our lists with the likes of Melbourne and a Fremantle instead of Hawthorns. They have the best list in the comp on paper. Better than Geelongs for mine.
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #289 on: February 14, 2010, 01:28:53 AM »
We can also welcome back Cousins and Jackson into our midfield and if only a fit Foley. our depth is TAC Cup level which were bullied by Premiership players.

you stack up:

Deledio
Cotchin
Cousins
Jackson
Foley
Martin

against

Mitchell
Burgoyne
Sewell
Hodge
Ellis
Ladson

and the gap is less than  the latter minus Burgoyne against Collins, Edwards, Nason etc.

We missed:
Cousins
Simmonds
Jackson
Foley
Thursfield
McGuane

all of whom would be in our best 22. Maybe McMahon as well... but we're grasping.
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #290 on: February 14, 2010, 01:37:06 AM »
We can also welcome back Cousins and Jackson into our midfield and if only a fit Foley. our depth is TAC Cup level which were bullied by Premiership players.

you stack up:

Deledio
Cotchin
Cousins
Jackson
Foley
Martin

against

Mitchell
Burgoyne
Sewell
Hodge
Ellis
Ladson

and the gap is less than  the latter minus Burgoyne against Collins, Edwards, Nason etc.

We missed:
Cousins
Simmonds
Jackson
Foley
Thursfield
McGuane

all of whom would be in our best 22. Maybe McMahon as well... but we're grasping.


your lunatic to even think McMahon is in our top 22  :rollin
 

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #291 on: February 14, 2010, 01:38:46 AM »
oh and to top it off Hawthorns midfield has always smacked us
might add you left a few out of thier midfield

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #292 on: February 14, 2010, 01:40:34 AM »
oh and to top it off Hawthorns midfield has always smacked us
might add you left a few out of thier midfield

Everyone plays midfield these days...
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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #293 on: February 14, 2010, 01:47:26 AM »
Your right RR.

What can we do about it now. Nothing.


We can trade him to GC17 for starters, assuming he still has any currency. What an absolute waste of a no.4 draft pick!  >:(

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #294 on: February 14, 2010, 07:49:31 AM »
Batten down the hatches guys its going to be a lean couple of years.

LMAO at Jackstar with 90% of his whipping boys gone still finding truckloads to be negative about.  It's a great thing to see with so much change at the RFC some things will never change.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #295 on: February 14, 2010, 07:56:26 AM »
Batten down the hatches guys its going to be a lean couple of years.

LMAO at Jackstar with 90% of his whipping boys gone still finding truckloads to be negative about.  It's a great thing to see with so much change at the RFC some things will never change.

Mate, last night was pathetic.
Apart from ahandfull of players like Martin, Nahas, Cotchin,Astbury and Lids, the rest should have a good look at themselves

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #296 on: February 14, 2010, 08:17:42 AM »
Batten down the hatches guys its going to be a lean couple of years.

LMAO at Jackstar with 90% of his whipping boys gone still finding truckloads to be negative about.  It's a great thing to see with so much change at the RFC some things will never change.

Mate, last night was pathetic.
Apart from ahandfull of players like Martin, Nahas, Cotchin,Astbury and Lids, the rest should have a good look at themselves
Do we play for premiership points during the NAB Cup? Who actually thought we would get close to Hawthorn? Relax, it is early and we all know we will struggle this year, we have to! Its a part of the evolution process post Wallace!

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #297 on: February 14, 2010, 09:07:23 AM »
Thought Tuck was okay last night, only played a half and a bit and had 20 odd possesions, at least he had a crack and showed he wants to play and stand up !

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #298 on: February 14, 2010, 09:09:17 AM »
Polak was really bad.

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Re: NAB Cup 2010
« Reply #299 on: February 14, 2010, 09:13:37 AM »
Polak was really bad.

Polak was bad before his accident