Author Topic: List analyst & manager, Blair Hartley [merged]  (Read 56626 times)

Offline Smokey

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Re: Chat with Blair Hartley
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 07:34:12 AM »

By what Blair said about how Collins would struggle to break into the side next year, it is pretty clear the Club saw Collo as surplus so the decision to get him to be part of the Grigg trade mustn't have been that difficult one from the Club's p.o.v.


Agree MT.  The club obviously think we have won out of the deal, even if some of us supporters think we could have got more.

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Unsung hero helping rebuild Richmond from the bottom

    Mark Stevens
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    July 03, 2011 8:54PM



YOU probably haven't heard of Blair Hartley, for Richmond hardly shouts his name from the roof the Jack Dyer Stand.

But Hartley, the silent "poacher", is a key player in the Tigers' revival.

When the club was on the bottom last year and being compared to Fitzroy at its worst, Hartley started work with a brief to scour opposition lists in search of "opportunities".

Hartley had Bachar Houli and Shaun Grigg on his hit-list last year and nabbed them both.

It is not difficult to predict the targets on Hartley's whiteboard this year.

You might find the first 10 are 197cm or above. The Tigers need a gorilla down back, but most of all they need a ruckman. The ruck run-down might feature the following names: Hamish McIntosh (North Melbourne), Mitch Clark (Brisbane), Shaun Hampson (Carlton), Jackson Trengove (Port Adelaide), Max Gawn (Melbourne), Dawson Simpson (Geelong) ... and maybe, at a pinch, Mark Blake (Geelong).

More names may have been added in the past 24 hours given the smashing the Tigers suffered against Carlton on Saturday.

The Tigers, hobbled by the early loss of Ben Griffiths to injury, crumbled at the centre clearances.

They won it for the first time out of the centre 22 minutes into the second term and finished down 22-9 in the key stat. In clearances around the ground, it was 53-31.

Carlton scored 15.8 (98) from stoppages - the second biggest tally of the season - and Richmond just 5.5 (35) from the same source.

Overall this season, Richmond ranks 16th for hitout differential against its direct opponent, 16th for hitouts to advantage differential and 17th for scores from clearances differential.

The Tigers are so clean with their ball use on the burst, but are having their pants pulled down in close at key ruck contests. They have won the hitout count just twice this season. Tyrone Vickery was recruited as a ruckman, but doesn't possess the engine to play the role. Now, he is settled as a forward. Andrew Browne is a workhorse via the rookie draft. Angus Graham, another rookie elevation, has stalled.

The best way to judge a ruckman's influence at centre bounces is using the "clearance difference" stat and it is a sad story for the Tigers this year. Vickery has the best record (-2) in terms of clearances won and lost when he takes the centre bounce. Trouble is, he has been there only 69 times. Browne has attacked 139 centre bounces for a -18 record. Graham is -32 from 230 centre bounces. They are last on the list of regular ruckmen for the stat. To put that into context, Carlton's Robbie Warnock is +37, North Melbourne's Todd Goldstein - the beanpole who has surged ahead of McIntosh - is +28.

McIntosh is in contract at Arden St until the end of 2013 and was shocked when the Roos put him up for trade at the end of 2008. But at 25, he is the perfect fit for Tigerland. It is a luxury to get McIntosh, an All-Australian squad nominee in 2007 and 2009, as insurance.

Would the Tigers be prepared to give up a first-round draft pick for him? Would North consider it?

That man Hartley must at least be tempted.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/unsung-hero-helping-rebuild-richmond-from-the-bottom/story-fn7si05c-1226086702069
« Last Edit: July 04, 2011, 03:47:04 AM by one-eyed »
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

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Re: Unsung hero helping rebuild Richmond from the bottom
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2011, 12:34:51 AM »
Browne is the worst i have seen at afl level,actually at any senior level.

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Re: Unsung hero helping rebuild Richmond from the bottom
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2011, 12:36:39 AM »
Ben Marsh wasn't much chop and Gus is obviously rated highly if he's playing magoos. I miss the big Staff running around.

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Ben Marsh  :lol
stuffing shoot me now

The best out of contract ruck in the world at the moment is Luey
why isn't he on the list?

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McIntosh is only 25?

Need to get that deal done then.
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Re: Unsung hero helping rebuild Richmond from the bottom
« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2011, 09:52:28 AM »
Browne is the worst i have seen at afl level,actually at any senior level.

I would have to agree. I actually thought Gus was but there is no way in this world that anyone with 2 eyes can say Browne is of AFL standard.

It is bordering on comical watching him walk around with his hands on hips after he runs a whopping 5 metres.

For me he is the same if not worse than Adam Pattision. At least Patto used to kick the occasional goal
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We should have done a deal for a ruckman in the last couple of years.

Come trade time this October, teams are going to try and rape us when it comes to any deal involving a ruckman.

If McIntosh is fit then he's the one i'd go for, but the Kangas are going to want our first round pick.

Geelong will probably be expecting the compo pick we have banked for Mark Blake!!
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Geelong will probably be expecting the compo pick we have banked for Mark Blake!!

I doubt they could demand that, they haven't played him all year, at most you would get him is the PSD.
(Not that I want him near our club!)

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Blake would be an improvement on what we have now, is equally useless around the ground but better at ruckwork.
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Blake would be an improvement on what we have now, is equally useless around the ground but better at ruckwork.

lol....A pineapple on a stick would be an improvement on what we have now :lol

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if the only ruckman our club can come up with at the end of this year is Mark Blake then they should all resign, turn off the lights and close up shop. And Im being serious!

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Blake is out of contract and is rubbish would give up 4th round at best.

McIntosh being a 2nd string ruckman and a bit of keeness from the lad to come to Punt Road would help to stretch the roos to want a 2nd rounder or our Tambling compo pick.

What do the Roos need? They have a ripper list. Could maybe deal with another backman. 2nd rounder + McGuane or Thusrfield.
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McIntosh being a 2nd string ruckman and a bit of keeness from the lad to come to Punt Road would help to stretch the roos to want a 2nd rounder or our Tambling compo pick.

McIntosh for Foley.
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