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dont get too carried away.
Grigg is the worst kick in the comp :banghead

Dont know if he is the worst but my view of last years recruiting of Grigg and Houli is that its a very very average outcome for us. If Richmond is to improve the standard of player brought to Punt Rd by Hartley has to improve greatly. Last years effort is about a 4/10 for me.

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dont get too carried away.
Grigg is the worst kick in the comp :banghead

Dont know if he is the worst but my view of last years recruiting of Grigg and Houli is that its a very very average outcome for us. If Richmond is to improve the standard of player brought to Punt Rd by Hartley has to improve greatly. Last years effort is about a 4/10 for me.

Prefer Hartley over Miller and Wallace!   :P

He targeted a couple of guys and got them cheap.

Miller and Wallace targeted McMahon and were going to give pick 35, when that got used on Morton, they 'had' to use pick 19 because they promised the Dogs we'd take McMahon!!!
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Hartley has nothing to do with Miller etc. Hartley can only be judged on what he brings to punt road and at the moment he only has 2 average footballers to his list.

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At minimal cost though.

They were also very keen on Sherman, in the past we would have given away a high pick for him, this time around he was asking too much so they said eff off.

I do agree with you though Ramps, Houli and Griggs aren't anything special so far.
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Hartley has nothing to do with Miller etc. Hartley can only be judged on what he brings to punt road and at the moment he only has 2 average footballers to his list.

Yeh I dunno. Maybe they are good operators but snaring key footy dept recruiting people who presided over Melbourne and Port's lists over recent years doesn't fill me with much confidence..... and sort that bloody hairdo out Cameron  ;D
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Apart from his braind fade yesterday in the 3rd Houli has been very good, for what he cost us

Grigg - is the problem because his kicking is woeful and I thought our recruiting these days was about kicking ability  :P
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I think to label that as a brainfade is a bit unfair.

he was put under pressure by a poor pass, corralled against the boundry he  looked up and saw nothing so tried to gain time to find an option and slipped over.
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I think to label that as a brainfade is a bit unfair.

he was put under pressure by a poor pass, corralled against the boundry he  looked up and saw nothing so tried to gain time to find an option and slipped over.

Come on ? That was straight up POX by Houli !
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I think to label that as a brainfade is a bit unfair.

he was put under pressure by a poor pass, corralled against the boundry he  looked up and saw nothing so tried to gain time to find an option and slipped over.

Agree had nothing up the Southern Stand wing and tried to turn away from Crameri got caught out. Indicative of where we were as a team at that time of the match and what was in store for the final quarter.

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Grigg is the worst kick in the comp :banghead

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Agree had nothing up the Southern Stand wing and tried to turn away from Crameri got caught out. Indicative of where we were as a team at that time of the match and what was in store for the final quarter.

I rate Houli as highly as Knighta does so I'm biased but I reckon any half decent player would've done better in that situation.
 Wasn't just that either. He doesn't seem to know what to do with the pill when he's getting tackled. Panicks , falls over and hands it to the opposition
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Basher has played some bloody good football for us this year.  Don't hang him because he was sold a bad pass and given no backup, it was made worse coz we were getting spanked.  He has been pretty slick, his kicks are usually on the tit and he can send em a kilometre.  He usually keeps a calm head under pressure and I havn't seen him balk once.
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Helbig ran to his poor kick which was good and Houli should have given the handball back to him and didn't.
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Basher has played some bloody good football for us this year.  Don't hang him because he was sold a bad pass and given no backup, it was made worse coz we were getting spanked.  He has been pretty slick, his kicks are usually on the tit and he can send em a kilometre.  He usually keeps a calm head under pressure and I havn't seen him balk once.

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Ready-made VFL players for the AFL draft (Age)
« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2011, 03:30:56 AM »
One of Blair Hartley's tasks presumably will be to find late developers in the state leagues who can make the transition successfully to AFL level...


Ready-made VFL players for the AFL draft

   Sam Landsberger
    From: Herald Sun
    July 19, 2011

SAM LANDSBERGER assesses the top 10 VFL prospects for the national draft.


AHMED SAAD
Northern Bullants

Position: Small forward; AGE: 21; HEIGHT: 180cm; WEIGHT: 75kg
Similar to: Eddie Betts

In 27 games Saad has become one of the VFL’s elite. With impeccable balance, burst of pace, strong hands and a knack of finding goals he is hot on Kevin Sheedy’s watch list.

Coach Darren Harris: “He’s one that has to be looked at because we’ve seen the effect of small forwards and every club needs them. He needed to improve getting outside 50 and applying pressure and he’s doing that.”

NATHAN BATSANIS  
Port Melbourne

Position: Wing; AGE: 23; HEIGHT: 181cm; WEIGHT: 79kg
Similar to: Courtenay Dempsey

The nephew of Collingwood great Peter Daicos spent a year at Port Adelaide but was curtailed by a leg injury. Batsanis has raised the bar this year and turned into a key link-up player.

Coach Gary Ayres: “He has improved his decision making and ball use, which is important when you get it 20-25 times, and he’s a two-way runner.”

SAM GIBSON
Box Hill

Position: Midfielder; AGE: 25; HEIGHT: 184cm; WEIGHT: 82kg
Similar to: Farren Ray

The clock is ticking, but the Hawks captain tops the disposal chart each week and would slot into most AFL midfields as an old-fashioned tough onballer.

Coach Damian Carroll: “If a club wants a guy to go straight in, there wouldn’t be too many ahead of Sam. He’s so consistent with his workrate.”

BRAD MANGAN
Werribee

Position: Key position; AGE: 20; HEIGHT: 190cm; WEIGHT: 95kg
Similar to: Max Rooke

He’s played only 13 games, but AFL clubs are taking a shine to his bull-like aggression, pace off the mark and endurance.

Coach Paul Satterley says: “We think he’s going to appeal to clubs because he’s one of the quickest on our list and he’s starting to play with real physicality and he can play at either end.”

DAVID MIRRA
Box Hill

Position: Half-back; AGE: 20; HEIGHT: 186cm; WEIGHT: 86kg
Similar to: Sam Fisher

Won last year’s Box Hill reserves best-and-fairest. He can play on a range of forwards and offers good drive from half-back.

Coach Carroll says: “He’s done a good apprenticeship and hasn’t looked back this year. He can repel attacks, he’s done a good job on a powerful type like Lynden Dunn and he can play on smalls.”

TIM MOHR
Casey Scorpions

Position: Key defender; AGE: 22; HEIGHT: 195cm; WEIGHT: 98kg
Similar to: Tom Williams

Mohr combines strength and size with a splash of speed. Can pinch-hit in the ruck and is renowned for demolishing opposition attacks and then taking the game on.

Coach Brad Gotch: “He can play on a medium-tall to a really tall. When he’s on, he marks the ball and then takes off and can pump it 60-70m.”

MATTHEW O'DWYER
Werribee Tigers

Position: Half-back; AGE: 22; HEIGHT: 181cm; WEIGHT: 80kg
Similar to: Rhyce Shaw

Delisted after a lack of opportunities at Sydney last year, despite repeatedly racking up more than 50 possessions in the reserves. O’Dwyer is again proving too good for second-tier football with his pinpoint foot skills, dash and rebound from defence.

Coach Paul Satterley: “He’s got the ability to go at the same intensity from start to finish. He’s very creative and can find a lot of the footy.”

MICHAEL STOCKDALE
Casey Scorpions

Position: Back pocket; AGE: 20; HEIGHT: 178cm; WEIGHT: 77kg
Similar to: Jarrod Harbrow

The pint-sized defender’s ability to negate star forwards has risen this season. His dash and creativity are what excites clubs.

Coach Brad Gotch: “He’s done well to improve his one-on-ones, which were a query, because we already knew he's smart, he's quick, he reads the play well and is a good user of the ball.”

WILLIE WHEELER
Coburg Tigers

Position: Midfielder; AGE: 19; HEIGHT: 176cm; WEIGHT: 75kg
Similar to: Kieren Jack into Sam Mitchell

The nephew of former Bulldog Terry Wheeler shared the Murray best-and-fairest with North Melbourne's Shaun Atley last year and was stiff to miss at the rookie draft. Wheeler has explosive pace off the mark, is a contested-footy king and kicks goals.

Coach Adam Potter: “He’s the best I’ve seen come in from the TAC Cup and make an impact in my six years involved (in the VFL). He average 25 possessions, wins clearances and tackles well.”

MALCOLM LYNCH
Port Melbourne

Position: Midfielder; AGE: 23; HEIGHT: 178cm; WEIGHT: 70kg
Similar to: Stephen Hill

Injury cut short his AFL career at the Western Bulldogs. Finally fit, the silky playmaker has scintillating speed and has improved his clearance work.

Coach Ayres: “You tend to find the players with genuine leg speed are the ones getting drafted, so he’s on track.”

AND ONE MAKING A LATE RUN...

BRENDAN FEVOLA
Casey Scorpions

Position: Full-forward; AGE: 30; HEIGHT: 190cm; WEIGHT: 100kg

A bag of 11 goals on Sunday thrust Fev into the spotlight for the right reasons, but beating up on a weak opposition is unlikely to wow AFL clubs.

Coach Brad Gotch: “If he keeps improving, you just never know, but he’s got to keep improving. About a month ago he was improving and then he stagnated.”

THE OTHERS
Ollie Tate, Myles Sewell (both North Ballarat), Kris Pendlebury, Tom Sundberg (both Collingwood), Sean Tighe (Werribee), Myles Pitt, Shane Valenti (both Port Melbourne), Mark Baguley (Frankston), Ben Duscher and Tory Dickson (both Bendigo).

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ready-made-vfl-players-for-the-afl-draft/story-e6frf9jf-1226097161234