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Footnote: woolworths own Dick Smith ::) ::) ::)

Yeah I know I mentioned it earlier BJ:

But to know Woolworths (who owns Dick Smith) is involved whether it be directly or indirectly turns the stomach a bit
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considering clubs will soon have to bid in an auction for ea pokie machine they hold Im not absolutely certain it is the best means to spend the clubs capital. There are any number of opportunities the club could pursue and then use the RFC as a vehicle to market it...there's a NEW challenge for you to put the MBA to good use Benny :shh
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considering clubs will soon have to bid in an auction for ea pokie machine they hold Im not absolutely certain it is the best means to spend the clubs capital. There are any number of opportunities the club could pursue and then use the RFC as a vehicle to market it...there's a NEW challenge for you to put the MBA to good use Benny :shh

I agree heres some suggestions

On the Tiles with the RFC- Tiling Company
RFC pee Up Travel - Travel Agency
RFC Classic KitchenWare- Spoon Manufacturers
Bottom of the Barrel Pictures- Movie Studio Operations
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or perhaps the Last Laugh, starring Ramps :lol
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Thats ok, we can take Dick smith money...doesn't mean we have to give any back  :rollin
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or perhaps the Last Laugh, starring Ramps :lol

You have to admint Richmond Kitchenware had potential as a Spoons Manufacturer.

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Pokies deal sparks AFL clubs feud (Age)
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2010, 05:56:47 AM »
Pokies deal sparks AFL clubs feud
CAROLINE WILSON
May 13, 2010

 

SEVERAL Melbourne-based AFL clubs are involved in a bitter feud over the spoils of a multi-million-dollar bonanza to be reaped from the state government's recent auction of poker machine licences.

The pokies auction has secured the short-term futures of several clubs after they managed to secure licences at massively discounted prices.

But the Western Bulldogs and Richmond are seething after Carlton took over some of their lucrative venues - thanks to the intervention of pokies king and former Carlton director Bruce Mathieson.

The Blues have gone from having one pokies venue to four, with at least 260 machines secured at the bargain basement price of $5500 each.

This was made possible after Mr Mathieson recently terminated Richmond's long-term lease at the Royal Oak in Richmond and the Bulldogs' lease at the Vic Inn at Hobson's Bay, signing both over to Carlton.

The Blues will also take over the Manningham Club in Bulleen (formerly Brisbane Lions) and continue to control machines at its club in Laverton.

The moves should eradicate Carlton's $5 million debt over the next decade.

Liberal backbencher and Richmond supporter Bernie Finn told The Age: ''I think it's grossly unfair that one individual has the power to remove a major source of revenue from three AFL clubs and unilaterally direct it to just one.''


Bulldogs chief executive Campbell Rose said he had expressed disappointment to Carlton boss Greg Swann. ''It's terribly disappointing to see our inner-heartland being taken away by the Bruce Mathieson organisation on behalf of one of our kindred clubs for their commercial benefit,'' said Mr Rose.

The Bulldogs have finished up with 55 machines, which the club purchased at an average cost of $62,000 each.

Licences for the state's 27,500 poker machine were sold as a result of the government's decision to end the duopoly on licences previously held by Tattersall's and Tabcorp.

The auction raised a total of $981 million, well below market expectations, with many clubs overjoyed at winning 10-year licences for machines at $5500 apiece.

Hawthorn was celebrating after the silent auction, having paid the $5500 minimum for some 100 machines for which it had considered bidding as much as $110,000 each.

Melbourne's board allocated $4 million for 92 machines at the Mathieson-owned Leighoak club, but ended up paying just $370,000.

Collingwood, St Kilda and Essendon - like Melbourne - took up the option of buying licences for 40 machines before the auction, paying between $25,000 and $40,000 each, before securing the balance of their machines at auction for just $5500 each.

In something of an understatement, Essendon chief executive Ian Robson said last night: ''We are satisfied that we have secured the outcome we have and that the machines we were after at the market level were bought at a lower level than anticipated.''

Collingwood's deal with Mr Mathieson at the Coach and Horses was renewed, with the Magpies said to have heavily invested in the relationship.

Mr Mathieson was one of the group that overthrew Carlton president John Elliott in 2003. He quit the board several years ago, but had always promised the Blues he would support them via his pokies empire.

With the sale of machines to end the Tattersalls-Tabcorp duopoly by 2012, the new 50-50 split between the licence-holders and the government operators is estimated to see machines in Victoria profit to the tune of $470,500 each over the 10-year agreement.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/pokies-deal-sparks-afl-clubs-feud-20100512-uy3z.html

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2010, 06:46:18 AM »
Disgraceful.  Hope it's a money losing venture for the Blues
Boycott all those venues folks  :banghead

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2010, 07:19:55 AM »
Disgraceful.  Hope it's a money losing venture for the Blues
Boycott all those venues folks  :banghead

My days of having a meal at the Royal Oak are OVER  :banghead
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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2010, 08:24:55 AM »
What makes this even worse is that the place is in the heart of Richmond, and still has all the trappings of a Tiger venue. From the huge plaster Tiger above the door, to the framed portraits, and cocktails named after old Tiger greats. It's false advertising. The club should insist that it be taken down.   

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2010, 10:39:00 AM »
So did our club bid for more machines somewhere else? Did we bid to put some machines in the Craigieburn area, did we bid so we can put up a venue in the Glen Waverley area or an area like Mitcham or Ringwood? Did we win any extra machines anywhere else? I would have thought Benny Gale would have organised such a strategy going forward!

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2010, 11:24:12 AM »
What makes this even worse is that the place is in the heart of Richmond, and still has all the trappings of a Tiger venue. From the huge plaster Tiger above the door, to the framed portraits, and cocktails named after old Tiger greats. It's false advertising. The club should insist that it be taken down.   

RR - I am pretty sure our current lease hasn't run out yet (next couple of months I believe). The portraits you speak of are the property of the RFC and will be returned when we exit the building. Matheson doesn't own them, the Club does. It is just like when you rent a house, you own the furniture & you take it with you when you leave. And just like leasing a house or office space, our lease hasn't been renewed and we will go when the current lease expires.

 As for the Tiger thing above the door I don't think we own that. And I've always thought it is pretty ghastly to be honest.

So did our club bid for more machines somewhere else? Did we bid to put some machines in the Craigieburn area, did we bid so we can put up a venue in the Glen Waverley area or an area like Mitcham or Ringwood? Did we win any extra machines anywhere else? I would have thought Benny Gale would have organised such a strategy going forward!

Was thinking the same thing Ramps - would like to know the answer.
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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2010, 11:26:40 AM »
What makes this even worse is that the place is in the heart of Richmond, and still has all the trappings of a Tiger venue. From the huge plaster Tiger above the door, to the framed portraits, and cocktails named after old Tiger greats. It's false advertising. The club should insist that it be taken down.   

RR - I am pretty sure our current lease hasn't run out yet (next couple of months I believe). The portraits you speak of are the property of the RFC and will be returned when we exit the building. Matheson doesn't own them, the Club does. It is just like when you rent a house, you own the furniture & you take it with you when you leave. And just like leasing a house or office space, our lease hasn't been renewed and we will go when the current lease expires.

 As for the Tiger thing above the door I don't think we own that. And I've always thought it is pretty ghastly to be honest.

So did our club bid for more machines somewhere else? Did we bid to put some machines in the Craigieburn area, did we bid so we can put up a venue in the Glen Waverley area or an area like Mitcham or Ringwood? Did we win any extra machines anywhere else? I would have thought Benny Gale would have organised such a strategy going forward!

Was thinking the same thing Ramps - would like to know the answer.

Ive got a feeling that we didnt get any machines anywhere else and that we have been stranded with the lemon that is the Wantirna Club. The club should have bid for machines in other places, bid for machines and then look for a venue abit later. Did the club look at doing a deal with some RSL clubs to joint venture? Anyway Im sure we will get some answers soon enough. By the way when does the lease on the lemon run out- does anyone know?

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2010, 11:32:47 AM »

The club should have bid for machines in other places, bid for machines and then look for a venue abit later.

I'm not sure if that was possible Ramps.  I'm not talking from a position of any inside or extended knowledge on the subject but I would have thought it likely that part of the auction and approval process would have been to have a nominated licenced venue as a pre-condition to entering the auction.  Anyone else know much about this whole thing?

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Re: Carlton to strip Richmond of Royal Oak Hotel & pokie revenue
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2010, 01:05:14 PM »
What makes this even worse is that the place is in the heart of Richmond, and still has all the trappings of a Tiger venue. From the huge plaster Tiger above the door, to the framed portraits, and cocktails named after old Tiger greats. It's false advertising. The club should insist that it be taken down.   

RR - I am pretty sure our current lease hasn't run out yet (next couple of months I believe). The portraits you speak of are the property of the RFC and will be returned when we exit the building. Matheson doesn't own them, the Club does. It is just like when you rent a house, you own the furniture & you take it with you when you leave. And just like leasing a house or office space, our lease hasn't been renewed and we will go when the current lease expires.

 As for the Tiger thing above the door I don't think we own that. And I've always thought it is pretty ghastly to be honest.

No more ghastly than the giant pineapple or the giant banana :lol
But seriously, I hope it comes down, just so the unwary punter isn't fooled into thinking that the cost of his chicken parmigiana might be indirectly helping the Tigers