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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #135 on: July 03, 2010, 03:37:55 PM »
Dea is the youngest footballer on the Richmond list. He had the build of a Greek god, for his age. You would give him a few pre seasons to come good before thinking about moving him on.  Hardwicks 4th pick.

Hicks is very small but crazy fast. 2nd youngest player on rfc list. He is going ok at coburg and seems to be smooth.

Rance & Post are both 20 year of age.

White should be keep cause only pass from 05 draft

relton Roberts should be given another chance. Has lots of upside

Moore at 26 and 3 month is more mid than late 20s.

The drafts comming up will be weak due to the new teams. I doubt you will have many options better than nahas, thursfield, jackson long term. We have had our chance get get our list together.

Give foley 2011 season before saying he gone




 * why did you not include westhoff ?



Dea even for a junior player made mistakes that you see from other footballers the same age. Hope he makes it, but in the end he'll just be a flanker, theres plenty that can be found in any draft.

Seen Hicks play, kicking is average, we would need an upgrade to him going forward.

Rance and Post may be young and Hardwick will probably give them lots of chances but they dont look like players who can become dominant key position players.

White is going ok, he could be kept as a squad player, but if something decent was offered why not, hes a flanker as well.

Relton Roberts needs to be told that if he doesnt lose the necessary weight during next pre season he's out. It should be that simple.

Moore is expendable at almost 27 hes not going to show us more.

Westhoff has the opposite problem to Roberts, Westhoff needs to find 20kgs in a hurry, Astbury, Griffiths, Riewoldt all in front of him by a long way IMHO.

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #136 on: July 04, 2010, 03:30:12 AM »
Draft likely to prove tricky for picky clubs
EMMA QUAYLE
July 4, 2010

 
THE national under-18 championships have concluded with clubs still considering the approaching national draft a challenge.

Recruiters surveyed by The Sunday Age during the week expected many clubs to take a minimum number of picks in the compromised November draft, and for "needs" to influence first-round decisions more than they have in past years.

Having already removed 11 players from the draft pool - under the rule that allowed them to pre-sign a dozen 17-year-olds last year - the Gold Coast will make nine of the first 11 choices in the draft, pushing the existing clubs' first-round choices well down the order.

Essendon list manager Adrian Dodoro said while the championships had confirmed to him that each club would still have access to a talented player in the first round, clubs that were taking their first pick in the 20s - rather than at 10 or 11 - would naturally be making a more speculative choice.

"There's no doubt clubs will be a lot more specific in what they're looking for. I think, even with the early choices, clubs will be snapping players up as soon as possible, not taking the punt and thinking 'I could get this kid later on','' he said.

"Those days are gone. In previous years, you might look at a kid and think you could get him at 60 or 70, but this is not the year to do that.

''If a club wants a player, they'll be banking him with their first pick, because he won't be there at their second."

Collingwood recruiting manager Derek Hine agreed, expecting second-round draft choices to be far less valuable on the trade table than they have been, and predicting the newly introduced rule allowing clubs to count an upgraded rookie as one of their mandatory three draft selections would be utilised by some clubs.

"I distinctly get the feeling clubs will just be taking the three picks. I'm hearing some clubs are only taking two, which is a shame for the kids, but that's the sort of thing clubs will be considering. If you're not confident in the depth of the pool, are you willing to commit to a group of players for two years?" he said.

"Clubs will use different strategies, but I do think needs will play a bigger part. Say you need a tall player, and you're picking at around 18 or 19. In the past you might say, we'll take a midfielder first, because we're confident the tall we want will fall to our next pick.

"This year you'd definitely be taking the taller player, because your next pick won't be until the late 30s, and the likelihood of that player being there is not that great."

While the draft pool had been diminished by the removal of the Gold Coast 17-year-olds, Sydney recruiter Kinnear Beatson said a lack of quality in the second division sides at this year's championships had also affected the depth of the pool.

The most competitive second division side this year was NSW/ACT, and most of its players are reserved for Team GWS, too young for the draft or are already tied to AFL clubs under the NSW scholarship scheme.

Beatson said that while clubs would look to state league competitions for the players, the truth was that they already were, and had been for years. Before James Podsiadly and Michael Barlow came along many players - the list would extend well over 30 - had been drafted from senior leagues.

"There's Jason Porplyzia, Michael Jamison, Matthew Priddis and I could go on and on, there's a truckload of them," he said. "It's a fallacy. What's happening is that those competitions keep pushing that line, hoping more of their players will be taken, but the bottom line is that recruiters have been doing homework on them for years."

Full article at:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/draft-likely-to-prove-tricky-for-picky-clubs-20100703-zv0w.html

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #137 on: July 10, 2010, 06:56:05 AM »
Here's a list of youtube links of video highlights of a few of the potential 2010 draftees for those interested.

I've posted the list on the draft board as well for easy future reference. More will be added later.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=11599.0


Vic Metro
Andrew Gaff
Ben Jacobs
Matthew Watson
Josh Caddy
Viv Michie
Kieran Harper

 
Western Australia
Blayne Wilson
Harley Bennell
Jack Darling
Reece Conca
 
Vic Country
Jayden Pitt
Lucas Cook
Billie Smedts
Jed Lamb
Luke Parker
Shaun Atley

 
South Australia
Scott Lycett
Jamie Solly
Daniel Gorringe
Patrick McCarthy
Jared Polec
Zak Fitzgerald
Brodie Smith
Sam Day

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #138 on: July 14, 2010, 09:51:27 PM »
GOLD Coast will pick exciting Western Australian teenager Harley Bennell with one of its first three selections in this year's draft.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/coast-locks-up-young-wa-star-harley-bennell/story-e6frf9jf-1225891586610


So that's Swallow and Bennell locked in.

1. GC - Swallow
2. GC - Bennell
3. GC -
4. WCE -
5. GC -
6. Rich -

Based on current ladder positions

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #139 on: July 14, 2010, 11:29:03 PM »
GOLD Coast will pick exciting Western Australian teenager Harley Bennell with one of its first three selections in this year's draft.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/coast-locks-up-young-wa-star-harley-bennell/story-e6frf9jf-1225891586610


So that's Swallow and Bennell locked in.

1. GC - Swallow
2. GC - Bennell
3. GC -
4. WCE -
5. GC -
6. Rich -

Based on current ladder positions


1. GC - Swallow
2. GC - Bennell
3. GC - Day
4. WCE - Darling
5. GC - Gaff
6. Rich - Atley


As the days go on the more I like Atley. He's my pick atm.
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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #140 on: July 15, 2010, 12:59:34 AM »
1. GC - Bennell
2. GC - Day
3. GC - Swallow
4. WCE - Darling
5. GC - Conca
6. Rich - Gaff

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #141 on: July 15, 2010, 01:53:46 AM »
Would be happy with Atley.

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #142 on: July 15, 2010, 02:13:46 AM »
McMahon - Gone. (1)
Polo - Trade for 3rd, 4th Round Pick, Gone. (2)
Hislop - Gone, waste of time. (3)
King - when contract is up, Gone. (4)
Thomson - Gone, waste of time. (5)
Cousins - Gone, retire. (6)
White - Keep.
Dea -  Keep, too early.
Hicks - Keep, too early, his height doesn't help his chances.
Gilligan - who? Gone. (6 + 1 Rookie)
Roberts - does he want to play AFL? probably not, Gone. (6 + 2)
Polak - Gone, delisted. (6 + 3)
Thursfield - Keep.
Jackson -  will replace Tuck as that big-bodied player, Keep.
Tuck - when contract is up, Gone. (7 + 3)
Nahas - Keep.
Moore - Keep.
Rance - when contract is up Trade or Delist, Gone. (8 + 3)
Foley - Keep.
Simmonds - already Gone. (9 + 3)

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #143 on: July 15, 2010, 08:58:57 AM »
Looking more and more likely we will be getting pick 8-12 at this point. Will still get a player but no way we will get Gaff or Atley.
I believe we need another midfielder and would be thinking Hallanan or Smedts at this pick ??
If Gorringe falls to here, he might also be an option.

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #144 on: July 15, 2010, 09:12:33 AM »
Polec is also likely has no right foot that Ive seen. Has everything else tho.

Ge Id be wrapped with Atley
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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #145 on: July 28, 2010, 04:17:13 PM »
McKenna is denying their 2nd pick will be used on Harley Bennell and possibly pick 3 on Sam Day

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/99174/default.aspx

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #146 on: July 28, 2010, 04:47:51 PM »
Be amazing if Sam Day outright refused GC. Read a little on him, the kid sounds like an absolute freak. Be interesting to see what happens with him, cause if he has serious options elsewhere he may be able to pick and choose the club he ends up at. Wishful thinking of course.
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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #147 on: July 28, 2010, 09:16:24 PM »
Be amazing if Sam Day outright refused GC. Read a little on him, the kid sounds like an absolute freak. Be interesting to see what happens with him, cause if he has serious options elsewhere he may be able to pick and choose the club he ends up at. Wishful thinking of course.

I don't think he can outright refuse to be drafted by any club. If Day nominates he will just have to take his chances but perhaps his reluctance will sway them from choosing him. Given his supposed talent this is unlikely though. If we get pick four I would probably prefer Gaff anyway or Bennell if a minor miracle occurs  :pray

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #148 on: July 28, 2010, 09:43:10 PM »
Be amazing if Sam Day outright refused GC. Read a little on him, the kid sounds like an absolute freak. Be interesting to see what happens with him, cause if he has serious options elsewhere he may be able to pick and choose the club he ends up at. Wishful thinking of course.

I don't think he can outright refuse to be drafted by any club. If Day nominates he will just have to take his chances but perhaps his reluctance will sway them from choosing him. Given his supposed talent this is unlikely though. If we get pick four I would probably prefer Gaff anyway or Bennell if a minor miracle occurs  :pray

i think he actually can.

for example, if he would like to come play at a melbourne club for example, but he has back up options with his baseball and basketball, he can simply nominate for the draft, go to draft combine and tell GC suns: i will not play with you so don't draft me.  In fear of wasting that pick, GC is unlikely to draft him.  And if GC still drafts him, he can simply go "eff you, i'm not playing here, i will go to america and play baseball or basketball".

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Re: 2010 Draft Discussion thread [merged]
« Reply #149 on: July 28, 2010, 09:46:40 PM »
McMahon - Gone. (1)
Polo - Trade for 3rd, 4th Round Pick, Gone. (2)
Hislop - Gone, waste of time. (3)
King - when contract is up, Gone. (4)
Thomson - Gone, waste of time. (5)
Cousins - Gone, retire. (6)
White - Keep.
Dea -  Keep, too early.
Hicks - Keep, too early, his height doesn't help his chances.
Gilligan - who? Gone. (6 + 1 Rookie)
Roberts - does he want to play AFL? probably not, Gone. (6 + 2)
Polak - Gone, delisted. (6 + 3)
Thursfield - Keep.
Jackson -  will replace Tuck as that big-bodied player, Keep.
Tuck - when contract is up, Gone. (7 + 3)
Nahas - Keep.
Moore - Keep.
Rance - when contract is up Trade or Delist, Gone. (8 + 3)
Foley - Keep.
Simmonds - already Gone. (9 + 3)
Agree with all of this post. Except maybe Rance, needs some work but he goes in. I like him.  
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