Courageous win!

[Ramps]

yep for better or for worse going into 'management' mode for the rest of the season is not an option, atm we're good enough to win 4-5 more games no problem. But if this time next season after a preseason of hope to build upon (an expected 2010 return of 7-8 wins) we are sitting at say 1-12 i will give it away, I cant, actually I WILL NOT go through another false dawn at the club, i've reached my limit.

Tigers have chosen their path and atm it all looks promising with even supposed crap players like white/king and co playing important roles well, now bloody well go on with it! no more yoyo'ing!

This is where Hardwick will show if he will succeed or not. The likes of King and White and Jackson cant be long term players at Richmond if we are to be a real success. Hardwick needs to delist or trade another 10 players this year and bring in more youngsters through the draft.

[Tigermonk]

Fantastic win when all was against the players.

Umpires  dont even make me start they were Sydney supporters. Umpire #13 you need sacking

l'm off to celebrate cya's next weekend   

 
 
 
 
 

 

[tony_montana]

yep for better or for worse going into 'management' mode for the rest of the season is not an option, atm we're good enough to win 4-5 more games no problem. But if this time next season after a preseason of hope to build upon (an expected 2010 return of 7-8 wins) we are sitting at say 1-12 i will give it away, I cant, actually I WILL NOT go through another false dawn at the club, i've reached my limit.

Tigers have chosen their path and atm it all looks promising with even supposed crap players like white/king and co playing important roles well, now bloody well go on with it! no more yoyo'ing!

While i largley agree with you TM, we cant expect this young squad to keep this intensity up for every game for the rest of the season.  I can see us unfortuntely dropping a few of the games we are expected to win.

I have no problem with that Jacosh, I'm a realist and don't expect miracles, we will cop a few rogerrings along the way. What I won't accept is a repeat of what's been happenning for years now; promise and a 9th finish followed by a complete ballsup the following season for 3-5 wins which just highlighted time and again how fake and worthless the previous season's exploits were. For example 2005/06 10th & 9th on the way up under wallace rebuild, 2007 shocking season reality check 3-4 wins 16th, 2008 9th with a bullet, 2009 locked and loaded turned into a disaster.

If we get our 6-7-8 wins this season which on current form will happen, I will be mighty peeed if we go backwards and get 4 wins next year. Bc then this seasons wins will have been for nothing and another lost opportunity to milk the system. If we go on an win 7-8-9 next year you wont hear any complaints from me bc its a gradual improvement. Jus hope they know what the are doing. No more false dawns, i won't accept another one

[Penelope]

Tony, Can you see any difference between this side and the sides that delivered the false dawns you mention?

[Hellenic Tiger]

Just watching the replay on foxtel and the bit when Collo came off.

One change I have noticed with our players is the selflessness and care shown to a teammate.

At least six players went to Collo after Newman kicked his second goal to help him back onto his feet.

Don't think I have seen that care and consideration for a teammate on field from a Tiger side for a long time.

Regardless of how many more wins we get for the season Dimma has certainly changed the side for the better

and is building a proud team comraderie and spirit.  

[tony_montana]

Tony, Can you see any difference between this side and the sides that delivered the false dawns you mention?

yes i can al, more youth and to the naked eye more latent talent, finally looks to be structure, team spirit and bond BUT i don't trust my biased judgemnt anymore, I'm sure I would have answered the same for 2008 and again in 2006 bc we had 'just started a fresh rebuild under wallace and back then polo/myer/Jon/Pattison/Tambling were going to lead us out of the mire'. Simply put I have trust issues now  and only deal in reality and proven results. i'll sit on it and take a snap shot of rnd 12 next year 

[Con65]

yep for better or for worse going into 'management' mode for the rest of the season is not an option, atm we're good enough to win 4-5 more games no problem. But if this time next season after a preseason of hope to build upon (an expected 2010 return of 7-8 wins) we are sitting at say 1-12 i will give it away, I cant, actually I WILL NOT go through another false dawn at the club, i've reached my limit.

Tigers have chosen their path and atm it all looks promising with even supposed crap players like white/king and co playing important roles well, now bloody well go on with it! no more yoyo'ing!

This is where Hardwick will show if he will succeed or not. The likes of King and White and Jackson cant be long term players at Richmond if we are to be a real success. Hardwick needs to delist or trade another 10 players this year and bring in more youngsters through the draft.

Ramps maybe you are watching a different game to me...but White and Kingy were and have been for a few weeks been quite good...as for Jacko not being a long term player for richmond..he has only been there for 7 years...I suppose that is not long term...

White together with edwards gus jr8 has taken his game to another level...quite serviceable...Kingy is doing is job...no real clanger turnovers like seasons past...Jacko is a hard nut in the guts and is quite good at his run with roles....

As for list management...we have already started doing it...hislop was put in for his operation...foley is being rested and may not return this year...that is list management.

[Penelope]

Don't forget a hardness and wiliing to work to the contest, or never dropping their heads.

Until this year I don't think I'd seen a richmond side win a game on sheer guts and determination since Northey coached.

I can see where you are coming from but his isn't on the back of talented or semi talented front running, down hill skiers.

Relax and enjoy the ride  

[Ramps]

yep for better or for worse going into 'management' mode for the rest of the season is not an option, atm we're good enough to win 4-5 more games no problem. But if this time next season after a preseason of hope to build upon (an expected 2010 return of 7-8 wins) we are sitting at say 1-12 i will give it away, I cant, actually I WILL NOT go through another false dawn at the club, i've reached my limit.

Tigers have chosen their path and atm it all looks promising with even supposed crap players like white/king and co playing important roles well, now bloody well go on with it! no more yoyo'ing!

This is where Hardwick will show if he will succeed or not. The likes of King and White and Jackson cant be long term players at Richmond if we are to be a real success. Hardwick needs to delist or trade another 10 players this year and bring in more youngsters through the draft.

Ramps maybe you are watching a different game to me...but White and Kingy were and have been for a few weeks been quite good...as for Jacko not being a long term player for richmond..he has only been there for 7 years...I suppose that is not long term...

White together with edwards gus jr8 has taken his game to another level...quite serviceable...Kingy is doing is job...no real clanger turnovers like seasons past...Jacko is a hard nut in the guts and is quite good at his run with roles....

As for list management...we have already started doing it...hislop was put in for his operation...foley is being rested and may not return this year...that is list management.

Do you believe that King, Jackson and White can be Richmond Premiership players in the same team? I cant see it! Just my opinion thats all. Of the 3 White has the best chance because of his speed, King has no chance and Jackson is an average player with dodgy kicking skills.

[Ox]

This is where Hardwick will show if he will succeed or not. The likes of King and White and Jackson cant be long term players at Richmond if we are to be a real success. Hardwick needs to delist or trade another 10 players this year and bring in more youngsters through the draft.

Jackson already has been a long term player

[Francois Jackson]

great win by the boys.

finally a win against a full strength Sydney team. About time we did to those pricks what they have been doing to us for years.

Bentleigh is 100% correct tanking is dead and buried. Its now about list management playing the kids and whatever happens happens.
A win like that against "Quality" sides is whats it all about although like TM i will wont start getting excited till i see genuine improvement this round next year.

As usual Jack r took the Honours again. He is a stuffin machine and now he has midfielder mates kicking goals too.

Collins gee what a month he is having and King too. Agree with Ramps he wont be part of a premiership team but his last month has been really good to watch. Close to 10 tackles today i reckon.

Farmer was good still not convinced though

Tambling well he is as s h i t as it gets. Like watching JON Mark 2 that bloke.

[the_boy_jake]

finally a win against a full strength Sydney team. About time we did to those pricks what they have been doing to us for years.

Bradshaw missing is a big one as it left them very short. Playfair wasn't in the game and it meant Goodes had to spend the entire game CHF.

[WilliamPowell]

Bentleigh is 100% correct tanking is dead and buried. Its now about list management playing the kids and whatever happens happens.

A win like that against "Quality" sides is whats it all about although like TM i will wont start getting excited till i see genuine improvement this round next year.

 

gee that's funny because I have been saying for weeks just let the kids play and if we win, we win and if lose as long as we are competitive that's all that matters.

In other words whatever happens, happens and I was called an idiot (not by you daniel  )

I was said to be deluded like so many other Richmond supporters because I supposedly over rate our list.

It isn't about over rating the list it is all about these kids and seeing them playing together, winning together and more importantly playing for each other - that's what this year is and has always been about and whatever happens; happens  

[julzqld]

Simply wonderful

[Francois Jackson]

Tony, Can you see any difference between this side and the sides that delivered the false dawns you mention?

yes i can al, more youth and to the naked eye more latent talent, finally looks to be structure, team spirit and bond BUT i don't trust my biased judgemnt anymore, I'm sure I would have answered the same for 2008 and again in 2006 bc we had 'just started a fresh rebuild under wallace and back then polo/myer/Jon/Pattison/Tambling were going to lead us out of the mire'. Simply put I have trust issues now  and only deal in reality and proven results. i'll sit on it and take a snap shot of rnd 12 next year 

good post

the proof will be come seasons end if Dimma does as what he should and turn this list over a little more. if we see a few kent Kingsley type recruites you know we will go backwards.

I actually think this time its different TM but i have said it b4 and get burnt. But Dimma has a plan and thus far has not changed it or moved of course.

THE BIGGEST CHANGE I HAVE SEEN FROM THIS GROUP IS THE DEFENSIVE PART. THE TACKLING, SHEPHERDING, ETC ETC

Unbelievable to see how they tackle now. Been saying it for years get the tackle aspect going the rest will for into place.

Never have i seen a Richmond team tackle more thsan this lot in the last month. Just hope they dont drop off next year.