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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2010, 01:00:50 PM »
I saw no remorse or regret. I saw his poor family go through hell, while a handsome young man smiled smugly at the camera and thumbed his nose at the AFL. If I was an upcoming talented AFL player this doco told me that I could still perform at an elite level and be a drug addict and get away with it for a good long time and then make money from it later. I dont think the young ones who believe they are bullet proof will se the struggle and the downside.
I am hoping tonights episode will be more about remorse and regret and Bens realisation of how everything can go so wrong, and be much more in your face about it.
If last nights show was about Wayne Carey I wouldve turned it off halfway through
Let us not forget that the doco was started in 2008, a time when Cuz was still using so there may not have been any regret then! But now? Probably a different story! His media conference when he announced his retirement shows that!

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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2010, 02:18:42 PM »
I was captivated by part 1 of the Ben Cousins documentary.I can see why some people have suggested it has glamorized drug use as Ben still comes across as a lovable rascal.I eagerly look forward to part 2 ....I wonder if we will see a more remorseful Ben Cousins tonight.

What I found most interesting from part 1......

1) Ben has made fools of many of his adoring fans back in Perth.Many people (quite blindly) made excuse after excuse for Bens erratic behaviour .Many people claimed that Ben was a man of good character. It all came out last night that WAs golden boy has been a drug user for the entirety of his West Coast career.

2) What the hell was happening at West Coast.If their captain and spiritual leader was a prolific drug user.. how many others shared the same lifestyle.Interesting that fellow premiership player Chad Fletcher was charged with cocaine possesion in Sydney on the weekend.

I find it hard to believe that a professional club could have its "head in the sand". Where are the "whistle blowers" at this club ? I heard on talk back radio this morning that Ken Judge warned the club about his concerns at a drug culture before he was shown the door.

3) Ben is very lucky to have a father like Bryan Cousins.

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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2010, 03:54:48 PM »
Simple, they can't, I watched a UK documentary on the issue last night and despite the billions spend in the war on drugs, they estimate that they only stop between 1 (academic number) to 10% (police number) of the heroin coming into the country and that's a small country, not a big landmass like Australia. That is a failure in anyones book. There is so much money to be made that all the people who do the importing have bribed everyone in a position to stop the shipments.

Prohibition doesn't work, it never has and prosecuting the end user as a criminal is ridiculous.

Essentially my point. It is all a total waste of money. They're not going to legalise and tax drugs so if they're going to burn money to be seen to be doing something might as well focus on the top of the tree. You only have to talk to your local plod to find out they are over busting users and how much of a drain on their already tight resources it is.

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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2010, 04:02:46 PM »
How about stopping those that import/manufacture drugs and stop wasting time and money busting the end user that is not going to stop taking drugs because of a conviction or fine.

you would not import.manufactue drugs unless people wanted to use them

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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2010, 04:38:13 PM »
I saw no remorse or regret. I saw his poor family go through hell, while a handsome young man smiled smugly at the camera and thumbed his nose at the AFL. If I was an upcoming talented AFL player this doco told me that I could still perform at an elite level and be a drug addict and get away with it for a good long time and then make money from it later. I dont think the young ones who believe they are bullet proof will se the struggle and the downside.
I am hoping tonights episode will be more about remorse and regret and Bens realisation of how everything can go so wrong, and be much more in your face about it.
If last nights show was about Wayne Carey I wouldve turned it off halfway through
Let us not forget that the doco was started in 2008, a time when Cuz was still using so there may not have been any regret then! But now? Probably a different story! His media conference when he announced his retirement shows that!

I agree, and I'm hoping that people watch part 2 because this part should be the "lesson to be learned" part. Part one was certainly no deterrent, in fact 2 young blokes who didnt really have an opinion on him now think he's a "machine"  and were quite impressed by his hard work reward system.

I will be there cheering/thanking him on Sunday, he has done wonders for our club in more ways than one, but I do worry about his future

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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2010, 05:24:07 PM »
wouldnot waste my veiwing time on this doco. its a money spinner

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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #96 on: August 26, 2010, 06:05:44 PM »
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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #97 on: August 26, 2010, 07:15:56 PM »
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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #98 on: August 26, 2010, 07:22:56 PM »
For those that thought it left a bad impression on kids, the Australian Drug Foundation said their phones had been running hot today with people ringing up about their addictions.
That's the bottom line IMO about how this should be viewed
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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #99 on: August 26, 2010, 07:28:29 PM »
They're not going to legalise and tax drugs
They should. Drug addiction should be treated as a health issue not a criminal issue and while drugs are illegal people are always going to be ashamed and hide their addictions.

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Re: 'Broker' Kevin Sheedy an unlikely saviour for Ben Cousins (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #100 on: August 26, 2010, 07:37:23 PM »

Most on here bagged me 2 years ago when i  said sheeds was behind it. ;)

When was that Jack?  I've just looked back through the entire Ben Cousins thread and the media mentioned Sheedy's involvement 3 times - on Dec 14th 2008, Dec 19th 2008 and Aug 8th 2009 but you never mentioned it once up to that point (12 months ago).  When did you say that and who were the "most" that bagged you?

said it several times, as WP in an earlier post commented on.
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Re: 'Broker' Kevin Sheedy an unlikely saviour for Ben Cousins (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #101 on: August 26, 2010, 07:38:22 PM »

Most on here bagged me 2 years ago when i  said sheeds was behind it. ;)

And before you get up on your soap box saying "I told ya so" you said it was Sheeds only who got Cousins to Richmond - you gave all the credit to Sheeds and no one else

I stand by what I've always it wasn't Sheeds only who got him to Richmond.... I know that for a (borrowing your favourite saying) FACT. There is alot more to Ben geting to Richmond than just K Sheedy and that's always being my point  ;D

And can I add that Brian Cousins is super bloke  ;D

k.sheedy instigated it , leave it at that.
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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #102 on: August 26, 2010, 07:52:26 PM »
They should. Drug addiction should be treated as a health issue not a criminal issue and while drugs are illegal people are always going to be ashamed and hide their addictions.

stuffing oath and they should use the tax on drugs to fund rehabilitation and education.
Drugs would also be cleaner and safer if regulated.

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Re: 'Broker' Kevin Sheedy an unlikely saviour for Ben Cousins (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #103 on: August 26, 2010, 08:28:33 PM »
k.sheedy instigated it , leave it at that.
Watch it tonight

Now your saying he "instigated it". Previously you've said Sheeds is the reason Ben's at Richmond, Sheedy got Cousins to the RFC etc - that's what you've had said for 12 months now. Which is it? Because there is a massive difference

My views on this have not changed. How much clearer do I need to make this for you?

I have never disputed the fact that Sheeds contact Ben Cousins - never disputed it.

What have disputed is this mantra of yours that Sheeds is the reason, the only reason Cousins is Richmond because that is not the case. There were alot of people who were involved in getting Ben to the Tigers and that is a FACT

And I will say again Brian Cousins is a fantastic bloke  :thumbsup
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Re: Channel Seven to air Ben Cousins documentary - Aug 25-26
« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2010, 09:50:15 PM »
I think the doc just proved it, hope your watching