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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #360 on: October 14, 2010, 05:02:18 PM »
Just on Houli for a moment, does anyone know it the club has requested he be placed on the permission to train list yet? When do the lads get back on the track?
Not sure he can be prior to the ND, i think that can only happen prior to the PSD
From memory most players are actually contracted until the end of October, early November which is the main thing stopping players from existing AFL clubs training at new ones

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #361 on: October 14, 2010, 05:33:05 PM »
Snip! Enough with the toe-to-toe insults ppl!  ::)

Now back to the topic .....

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #362 on: October 14, 2010, 06:20:20 PM »
Snip! Enough with the toe-to-toe insults ppl!  ::)

Now back to the topic .....
Nice selective editing. How about editing the two peanuts who started the crap
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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #363 on: October 14, 2010, 06:48:25 PM »
Snip! Enough with the toe-to-toe insults ppl!  ::)

Now back to the topic .....
Nice selective editing. How about editing the two peanuts who started the crap
There is the 'report to moderator' function as others have used. We're not mindreaders ::). Anyway these other posts have now been edited.

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #364 on: October 14, 2010, 06:51:20 PM »
Just on Houli for a moment, does anyone know it the club has requested he be placed on the permission to train list yet? When do the lads get back on the track?

On the thread about the Official Delistings it says they start training early November.

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #365 on: October 15, 2010, 10:16:23 AM »
Not sure he can be prior to the ND, i think that can only happen prior to the PSD
From memory most players are actually contracted until the end of October, early November which is the main thing stopping players from existing AFL clubs training at new ones

On the thread about the Official Delistings it says they start training early November.

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #366 on: October 21, 2010, 09:04:49 AM »
Here is an old draft profile of Bachar

Bachar Houli

Small forward/midfielder

Western Jets
12/5/1988
180cms and 84kgs

Bachar has attracted a lot of hype and media attention. A very early developer who has always seemed to have an early physical edge on players his own age and been on another level to most of them. Early on last year he looked like an absolute gun but some terrible injuries has stifled his development it seems. This year he has again battled some more minor injuries but he still struggles to string game after game together and it’s a pretty decent question mark of him going into the draft.

The stress fractures on his back last year was pretty horrendous and ankle injuries this year have not helped. At the carnival he has quite good after missing the 2005 one with injury after being selected.

His game is built around being very clever around goal. A superb kick for goal with all the tricks needed to crumb a pack and to evade a player to snap a goal. Great hands under pressure to gather the ball and feed it out. Physically developed body helps him keep his head over it and absorb the contact as well of course.

Kicking is very good around the ground. Not the longest kick but very accurate and technically sound on his left foot. Would not be surprised given full fitness in the AFL system if he gets another extra meters on it and can power through the ball a bit more with more conditioning and flexability. Does not quite seem to kick through the ball as much as he did last year and injuries might be a reason.

Leg speed is an issue. Looking at him this year he gets a lot of ball with a superb ability to know where to position himself. But in open play he struggles to break away from players and to chase them down. Seems a bit one paced and lacking acceleration. Not much of a jump either and is not overly strong in the air.

The perfect wet track specialist who is ideal at keeping his feet and wining contested ball and kicking a clever goal. Reminds me of Amon Buchanen in size and body shape and in playing style. Clever players who are good and use the ball well but wont win you a Stawell Gift.

If Bachar gets 2 or 3 pre seasons in and no injuries he should be able to get his game up to that sort of level as Amon and run as hard as him and be that effective.

His form after the U18s has been very good but again he has had to leave the field a number of times with minor injuries and consequently cant string together blocks of full games over the last 2 years. But has been moved into the midfield and been running to receive a lot more and starting to cover the ground like he did last year. Gathered heaps of football and started to show he can do the hard running required and grunt work.

Stats

2006
12 games - 22 possessions per game, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 20 goals in total

2005
7 games - 24ppg, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 13 goals in total.

Strengths

• Very good kick
• Clean ball handler
• Good around goals
• Excellent vision and reading of the game
• Ball magnet

Weaknesses

• Short
• Early developer and “solid body”
• Leg speed
• Injury concerns – will his body hold together?
• AFL position – can he run hard enough for long enough to be a midfielder or end up as a forward pocket only

Verdict

Bachar does not quite fit the profile for the modern game. Lacks that speed that clubs will want at his size. But he does have compensating factors such as skill and vision and a fantastic football brain. The small forward position for a specialized player is almost extinct these days and clubs require them to be able to play as another midfielder and rotate them through there. So it will come down to how clubs believe Houli will be able to stand up to the hard running he will need to be able to do. Will his body allow him to do the hard training and not break down and what levels his endurance is now and what can be worked on.

Injuries means he will have a fair bit of improvement in him if he can get through. He is physically developed but the hard running can be worked on and given increased fitness his agility and speed in the latter parts of game should improve with better conditioning. Its not how quick someone runs when they are fresh that’s as important as how quick they can run when they begin to tire and how often they can run close to there maximum before they are spent.

Prediction : 20 to 40

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Fit Houli is raring to go (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #367 on: October 22, 2010, 03:26:03 AM »
I couldn't find this on the net so I scanned it in.


Fit Houli is raring to go
By SAM EDMUND
FRI 22 OCT 2010, Page 117


BACHAR Houli will start training with Richmond next month as he moves a step closer to joining the Tigers.

Despite quitting the Bombers several weeks ago, Houli can't start training at Punt Rd until his Essendon contract officially expires at the end of October.

The midfielder has been training by himself and is said to be in excellent shape as he prepares to move.

The Tigers have committed to taking the disgruntled midfielder and despite failing to secure a deal in trade week, will most likely use December's pre-season draft to snare him.

Gold Coast has the first pick, but is understood to have no interest, West Coast is highly unlikely at No. 2, leaving the Tigers to snap up Houli at No. 3.

Houli, 22, turned his back on Essendon earlier this month and snubbed the club's best-and-fairest dinner after a testing season under former coach Matthew Knights.

He played 26 games in four seasons at Windy Hill, but was picked for only five senior matches this year, despite excellent VFL form.

Bombers great Matthew Lloyd said Houli felt like a ``whipping boy'' at times.

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #368 on: October 22, 2010, 04:42:51 AM »
Well ok, good on him, I hope he does well, I didn't agree in trading for him but seeing we are getting him for nothing and he has so far put the hard yards in himself I will back him in.
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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #369 on: October 22, 2010, 10:23:25 PM »
At least Houli won't miss any of the preseason by starting in November instead of waiting until mid-December for the PSD to make it all official. Learning a defensive gameplan for the first time will come as a shock though  :D.
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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #370 on: October 26, 2010, 03:41:43 AM »
Essendon's Bachar Houli will soon begin training with Richmond, which hopes to secure him in the pre-season draft.

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #371 on: October 29, 2010, 11:05:49 PM »
I only started getting excited about this when I relise how bitter Essendon fans are

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #372 on: October 29, 2010, 11:09:31 PM »
I only started getting excited about this when I relise how bitter Essendon fans are
That's half the fun - Hope he kicks it  :thumbsup

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #373 on: October 30, 2010, 12:06:25 AM »
Houli & grigg for Collins is a good bit of work by th club.

Houli in the psd can't be worse than knisley or knobel

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Re: Bachar Houli to become a Tiger (Australian)
« Reply #374 on: October 30, 2010, 03:12:23 AM »
Houli & grigg for Collins is a good bit of work by th club.

Houli in the psd can't be worse than knisley or knobel

Dead right and he is coming to the club so we had better get used to it, cant wait to see if this guys makes or breks it now, love to see him make it.
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

"Rucks:
Shaun Hampson is the No.1 man"