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Bachar Houli - a matter of faith (Age)
« Reply #540 on: August 07, 2011, 04:41:53 AM »
A matter of faith
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August 7, 2011


Despite being a player with limitations, Tiger Bachar Houli is a true role model.

EARLIER this season, Bachar Houli stood before his Tiger teammates and gave them a brief crash course in Islam. He told them about Ramadan, which began last Monday and which typically involves fasting until the sun goes down.

He fielded questions and, in response to a query about Osama bin Laden - who was then still alive - Houli made clear to the players that violent bin Ladenism wasn't what his faith was about. Islam, he said, was about love.

The players were told how Houli's faith lacked the hierarchical structure of some religions. It had no papal authority or bishop at the top and the local mosque had a large degree of autonomy. Hence, Houli can gain some dispensation for Ramadan, drinking sufficient water and eating enough food to allow him to play football. It is inconceivable how any athletes could function at an elite level without imbibing or eating anything before dusk.

The players were impressed by the presentation and asked plenty of questions. Houli is open about his faith, rather than private. He isn't the first Muslim to play in the VFL/AFL - Melbourne's Adem Yze and Bulldog Sedat Sir are among a small number to precede him - but he is considered the most observant Muslim to have played footy at the highest level.

Houli is married, doesn't drink and has the discipline of a young man who prays several times a day. He is one of the last players the Tigers will have to worry about finding in the back of a divvy van at 3.30am. His religion, indeed, could be seen as an advantage in today's AFL, which almost demands a monastic lifestyle of its players, given the rigours of training and the new puritanism.

When Richmond recruited him from Essendon, he went straight to the club's shop and bought about 40 memberships for family and friends. As a Richmond official noted, ''when you get Bachar, you get the whole clan''.

Although he is not as well known as Chris Judd, Gary Ablett or even rugby league convert Karmichael Hunt, it's arguable that Houli may be the most important contemporary role model in the AFL, given the vexed politics surrounding his faith. To Richmond fans and a good number of supporters of other teams - especially the shrewd judges who've picked him in dream teams - he may be the most recognisable and well-regarded Muslim; in some cases, he would be the only Muslim they feel any connection with.

It hardly needs to be pointed out that Islam has been the subject of considerable fear and loathing in this country for the past decade, the religion's image battered by the September 11, Bali and London atrocities and the fear of Lebanese gangs in Sydney's west. For the AFL, Houli's crossover role is somewhat comparable to the Lebanese surf lifesavers who were introduced to Cronulla in the wake of the beach riot - a figure, who by melding into an iconic Aussie pastime/game, brings his minority group into the mainstream in two ways.

First, he becomes a model for Muslims, who hitherto have had less affinity with football. Waleed Aly, the politics academic, Muslim and devout Tigers fan (he is on the board of the Tigers Community Foundation), said of Houli: ''His impact on the Muslim community has been enormous.'' Aly, who knew Houli as a Western Jet before he was drafted by Essendon in 2006, said the running defender had shown local Lebanese Muslims that ''they had a stake here [in football] and it was possible'' to be a Muslim footballer at the top level. Kids from his background in Melbourne would take a greater interest in the game.

Aly noted that whereas the late ''Crazy John'' Illhan, the highly successful and visible Turkish-Muslim businessman, had traded his exotic first name ''Mustafa'' for ''John'', Houli had remained identifiably Muslim. ''He hasn't had to trade in being a Muslim for success.''

The second, more crucial way that Houli changes perceptions is by normalising, or Australianising, a Muslim in the eyes of the multitudes who have negative views of the religion. It is a function that test cricketer Usman Khawaja performs on the national stage. In Sydney's west, rugby league champion Hazem El Masri, also a devout Lebanese Muslim, became the highest points scorer in NRL history and was a prominent voice of moderation in the wake of the Cronulla riot.

But Houli isn't a superstar of his sport like El Masri or Khawaja (simply to play test cricket defines a player as elite). His limitations as a footballer - despite a pretty good season - also place some limits on his potency as a role model. While Michael Long's historic importance rests more on his role in changing attitudes to indigenous footballers (and people) than what he did on the field, his stature as an elite, exciting player gave him the platform to be a spokesman. The Long reach was greater because he was a great player. Houli is no champion of the game, but, as his teammates discovered, he is a champion of his people.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-matter-of-faith-20110806-1igvu.html#ixzz1UH9G30pg

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #541 on: August 08, 2011, 03:38:00 PM »
did ok against the weagles.  has some faults but overall a pretty good pick up.
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #542 on: August 08, 2011, 03:51:22 PM »
did ok against the weagles.  has some faults but overall a pretty good pick up.

I think he has been the most consistent recruit who has had the biggest impact of all the players Richmond brought in this year. Like many others, he gets a bum steer by some supporters, but I have been genuinely impressed by his footskills and run and carry this year.

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #543 on: August 08, 2011, 04:13:54 PM »
Really like him as a player and seems like a genuinely decent bloke all round.  When I was a linguist in the navy, I had to learn about Islam as well, and it is quite interesting.  Media propaganda and cultural issues often get woven together and confused with the actual religion.
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #544 on: August 08, 2011, 04:17:42 PM »
Agree impressed by him. good pick up.

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #546 on: August 16, 2011, 03:32:12 AM »
"And on Sunday, a Richmond supporter claimed to have heard a Tigers fan call Bachar Houli a "terrorist", among other words."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-players-in-campaign-to-help-weed-out-feral-fans/story-e6frf9jf-1226115561647

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #547 on: August 16, 2011, 06:15:30 AM »
i doubt it was prob not even a tiger fan just like that fool that spat on spud


last i knew houli was a footballer not a terrorist, but i must say he did terrorize the swans on sunday day ;D

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #548 on: August 16, 2011, 06:59:18 AM »
last i knew houli was a footballer not a terrorist, but i must say he did terrorize the swans on sunday day ;D

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #549 on: August 16, 2011, 11:53:09 AM »
I hope this buries all that crap people have been saying about Ramadan

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #550 on: August 16, 2011, 10:02:30 PM »
was prob not even a tiger fan just like that fool that spat on spud


You know him then?

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #551 on: August 17, 2011, 10:45:08 AM »
I read that he wasn't either, just some prick who joined in.  Cannot confirm, cannot even remember where I read it.  I think he was from Brisbane?
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #552 on: August 17, 2011, 08:58:28 PM »
I read that he wasn't either, just some prick who joined in.  Cannot confirm, cannot even remember where I read it.  I think he was from Brisbane?

Yes Owl, from Brisbane.  A lifelong Richmond supporter who was on a cricket trip to Melbourne and went to see them live.  Got totally carried away (as we all have done at times in our lives) and now regrets it very deeply, embarrassment and shame are 2 words he uses when talking about it.  I can never condone what he did but I know the guy personally and know that he is very remorseful (as he you would hope any half decent person would be).  Was only early 20's at the time and I challenge anyone to say they haven't done a complete stupid act of some sort that they later regret, at a similar young age.

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #553 on: August 17, 2011, 10:29:32 PM »
So true Smokey but Dan Jackson does stupid acts on the field almost every week, do we have to forgive him too? :-\
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #554 on: August 17, 2011, 10:32:26 PM »
So true Smokey but Dan Jackson does stupid acts on the field almost every week, do we have to forgive him too? :-\

Jako is early 20's also. Forget about butchering the ball, he gives away at least one stupid, undisciplined unnecessary free a week. :-\